Poem a Day: Discussions at Night

Nighttime is when I can answer your replies. Without further ado, let’s talk.

edited to add this: Welcome to the new posters! Are you all MinHo supporters?? Wait a second. When did we become MinHo Central?  hahaha.

edited to add some more things. I’m really going to sleep now.

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To Ann who shared two videos from Youtube because she suspects something may be up with Dr. Ye and Dr. Kim –

This is from Episode 7, “The Cricket and I”

Chief: Dr. Ye, when the patient from Dubai comes in tomorrow talk to him nicely for us. Imagine how sad he’ll be if he finds out Dr. Kim isn’t interested.

Watch his poker face.

Park: Why are you looking at him like that? Are you going to give some advice?
Ye: Yes. Please don’t set people up from now on.
Chief: What did you say?
Ye: Is this place a dating agency? It’s possible for a patient to like a physical therapist but I don’t think it’s right for the chief of the rehabilitation center to set the up himself.
Park: How could you say that. He’s not just any old patient. He’s a VVIP. What if we get on the his bad side and get scolded by the hospital? And this isn’t a bad setup. Her life will be set if they get married.
Chief: I’m sorry I won’t do this kind of thing again.
Ye: Great. Thank you for listening to my advice.

It’s not only his emotionless face that is noteworthy here but also his cautionary words. I assumed that he was speaking on behalf of BoYoung (who had told him how embarrassed she was for assuming that flowers were meant for her). But he hadn’t said anything to defend Boyoung when the whole staff was teasing BoYoung during lunchtime. He also didn’t say anything when the basket of flowers arrived.

Ann may be right that he spoke his mind here because he didn’t like the idea of Dr. Kim being matched up.

Then, this from Episode 8, “The Point of No Return”

Dr. Kim runs to catch the elevator. Did he or did he not smile as he looked down?

Compare it to his face when BoYoung appeared by his side. He greeted her.

I think it would ironic if he ended up with Dr. Kim because 1) he had been very snippy with her during their introductions. I remember she asked him if she had a girlfriend because she HAD none, and he shot back that he understood why she was single. Regardless how intrusive her questions were, he shouldn’t have countered rudeness with rudeness.

2) Dr. Kim was the one who suggested to BoYoung that she was the object of Dr. Ye’s affections.

3) It proved MinHo’s observation that BoYoung isn’t the type of ALL men (but maybe of  some men, a few men, a couple of men and one man.)

Thank you, Ann for sharing your observations! We’ll keep these on file for now until we spot more corroborations.

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To Nina who said:

It is just weird if MH wasn’t the main lead since there lot of explanation of him from the beginning of this drama.

Yes, I do think it’s odd that at the beginning of each episode, there’s a lot of build-up for Dr. Ye but it only takes only ONE, just one move from MinHo to upset Dr. Ye’s momentum. For instance in Episode 7, I couldn’t help getting exasperated with the antics of MinHo, especially at the literature gallery.  He was the superfluous fifth wheel in a car.

But once the man’s voice narrated the poem, “Jealousy,” I began to understand his behavior.

Jealousy
by Jung Ho Seung

The fall rain only loves the withered leaves.
I felt so jealous
That I tumbled about in the withered leaves
Until the fall rain stopped.

The radio announcer said that this poem was amusing and I’ll have to agree. It is witty. In a nutshell, jealousy turns you into a mess.

This poem uses personification. It ascribes feelings to nature. The persona (or the poet) wanted to be loved by the rain, too, but the rain only loves the dry autumn leaves. So he decided to roll around the wet leaves until it stopped raining. But rolling in the wet leaves turned him a soggy clump of mess. Jealousy is messy. Hmmm…do you know that wet leaves make good compost. lol. But I don’t think MinHo fans appreciate their guy being compared to compost.

The poem is about MinHo who was feeling (I guess for the first time. Who knows with this weirdo.) an unfamiliar jealousy. He’s one big ugly mess. But effective.

He effectively disrupted Dr. Ye’s progress.

I claim that NOTHING that Dr. Ye said during that whole afternoon in the literature museum made as much impact on us the viewers as MinHo’s drunken plea, “Don’t like Ye JaeWook.”    I don’t think he planned it that way (because he was drunk after all), but his confession effectively stopped BoYoung from thinking and appreciating what a wonderful and thoughtful guy Dr. Ye was for bringing her to the literature museum.

It was as if the whole sequence of events was snowballing into that one declaration at the end of the show. It was climactic.

lol. In contrast, in Episode 8, when Dr. Ye called up to cancel their evening stroll, our reaction – and BoYoung’s – was a “Okay! See you tomorrow at work.” BoYoung didn’t feel sad, and neither did we. It was anticlimactic.

So, yes, Nina. As the kdrama stands right now, it’s weird that there’s much focus and development of MinHo’s character. There’s more nuance to him, when compared to Dr. Ye. However, we still have 8 more episodes to go through so who knows.

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To A who wrote this:

I feel like boyoung already move on & don’t have any feeling for minho coz that hug scene lol can’t believe they made it like it was funny scene. They played with my heart that hug scene so heart fluttering ! Well for me then they made it like funny scene the next epi why. I mean when boyoung push him away & said are you crazy something like that lol

But that was KARMA, girlfriend! lol

I like that the guys teased him the following morning for his drunken proposal to BoYoung. “Don’t like Ye JaeWook!!!”

Don’t you think he deserved THAT much ridicule from his buddies after embarrassing BoYoung in front of Dr. Ye and calling her “repeat offender” and “ex-convict of love”?

But if you replay that segment, this is what happened that night:

MinHo grabbed her and hugged her. Then for about 5 seconds (YOU count it, too) they were just standing in silence. Then he said, “Don’t like….(pause)…Ye Jae Wook.”

Almost on cue, his friends arrived. BoYoung might not have seen them, but she must have heard the crinkling sounds of their plastic grocery bags, and their footsteps as they reached the top of the stairs. She pushed MinHo and shouted, “Are you crazy? What’s wrong with you? Hmphh!”

Then, she left in a huff. 

If I really wanted to sail this MinHo ship, I could argue that if she disliked MinHo, she could have pushed him the very second he hugged her. She didn’t have to wait in his arm. Was she waiting to hear what he was going to says? See that?

I could also argue that she listened to his “Don’t like…(pause)…Ye Jae Wook.”  Again if she really disliked MinHo, she didn’t have to wait to hear him finish his thought. If I were BoYoung, I’d have kicked the millisecond he opened his mouth. I hate alcoholic breath on my hair. hahaha.  

And I could also argue that it was his friends’ arrival that prompted her to push off MinHo. Her remarks were unclear to me. What did she mean by “Are you crazy? What’s wrong with you?”

a. Was she telling MinHo that he was out of his mind to suggest that she liked YJW?

b. Was she upset that he was making such a ridiculous request? It was none of his business after all.

c. Was she accusing of MinHo of being a pervert because he hugged her and whispered drunken talk?

d. Or was she demonstrating faux outrage because his friends were there? lol.

e. All of the above.

f. Make your own interpretation.

Whatever the answer is, her reaction was weird. 🙂

Okay, to be continued tomorrow as usual. Heading to bed now.

Edited to add this:

Also, I don’t know who asked me about the title. Was it you, Oli? 

“You Who Forgot Poetry” would be referring to MinHo. Not Dr. Ye. At least, I think it is. I’ll have to explain tomorrow. So sleepy right now, my fingers are on auto-pilot. I don’t even know what I’m typing. lol.

13 Comments On “Poem a Day: Discussions at Night”

  1. Haha yes this is minho central ! Im sure all of us here are minho supporters. Btw i love this new session !

    Right karma ! Lol but that part was funny 😂 yeah he did take times telling her, 5 second i count it ! 😂 i thought she will show any hint that she still loves him thats why im confused & thought she completely already move on. But yeah why she need to wait till minho finished his words right.

    About the title i feel the same too for minho. Or maybe for us viewers? But thats weird right if for us haha

  2. *shyly raises hands*
    I’m leaning towards Minho too. I’m not convince of his jerky behaviour. I’m pretty sure there’s something behind his rejection. And they give MH too much airtime for me to think that JW will land the girl in the end. Besides, BY looks more comfortable with him than JW.

  3. Hahahaha…definitely Minho central.
    Finding your blog and coming across your posts that somehow gave me hope that Minho has potential to be the end game made me so happy. I even had to share your blog to fellow Minho Shippers.
    Thank you for saving us and providing us with the chance of surviving this show till the end.
    And if we do end up sinking, it’s been fun.

  4. ooooh I see…

    Were you the one who shared this blog on dramabeans, instagram or facebook? 🙂 I don’t have accounts there so I was wondering why I was getting hits from those sites.

    Sure, MinHo shippers can come here. And the YeLiners, too — if they don’t mind feeling depressed. Nearsea, lovebangwon, and the other Reply 1988 crowd know I can be a tireless campaigner for the “underdogs.”

    And yes, you got the right attitude there. There’s a Japanese saying that I like: Fall down seven times; get up eight. It means be resilient. You may fall (or sink in shippers term) down seven times, but you must rise up one more time or eight. If BoYoung doesn’t choose MinHo in the end, we’ll still have shared good times choosing this particular romcom to bitch over.

  5. I think they’re both occasional jerks, but MinHo comes off worse in the comparison because HE rejected the heroine, while Dr. Ye was nice to her.

    It’s interesting to study the bias.

    Let’s consider Guy A, Gal B and Group C,
    Gal B = heroine
    Group C = 6 other people.

    If Guy A is mean to Gal B but kind to Group C,
    then Guy A is mean.

    But if Guy A is kind to Gal B but mean to Group C,
    then Guy A is kind.

    lol. I guess, it’s one way of looking at “Love conquers all.”

    Yes, airtime is puzzling. But at the same time I know the actor portraying Dr. Ye had higher billing than the MinHo actor. Lee Yoon Bi got the top billing, followed by the Dr. Ye actor, then MinHo actor in the opening credits. Right now, I know that MH is in love with BY but I don’t consider Dr. Ye’s treatment of BY as love. It’s more like a donsaeng/sunbae relationship with them.

  6. Okay i finally delurked because this show has me slightly obsessed. Whilst I have finals right around the corner..oops!
    It was actually your post about the apple apology that got me interested about the show, and I binged four episodes of it after your post on who the male lead is. So I went into the show assuming Minho is the lead, and all your posts since then have absolutely convinced me of that. It’s like I can’t unsee it, even though Minho is such a jerk and a brat and presently, all wrong for our lovable heroine. While Dr.Ye is doing everything right. I always root for the nice guy!! So why do I find myself firmly on board the Minho-Boyoung ship?!…For this I blame you @packmule3 hehe.

  7. Heeeeyyy. Why are you blaming me?!

    I know right? MinHo is not some sort of chameleon hiding in a bag of Skittles. Once you SEE him as he is, you cannot unsee him anymore. You’ll find him anywhere.

    And yes, I’ve always like the niceR guy but it doesn’t work here.

    I’m reminded of that Taylor Swift song I heard a few years. Something about liking the guy who causes more trouble. Let me look up the lyrics and YT video and I’ll post this on the blog.

    Good luck with your finals. Remember studies come first! And thank your lucky stars for your parents …. If you were my daughter, you wouldn’t be watching kdramas till after college. hahaha

  8. Yes, it’s karma. He blurted out something that BoYoung didn’t want him exposing to Dr. Ye so KARMA turned around and made HIM the object of ridicule.

    He, too, blurted out this embarrassing, pleading, “Do not like Ye Jae Wook.” Who’s sorry now? hahaha.

    Five seconds, right? She waited five seconds.

    But at least she didn’t slug him with her purse like she did in the first episode. For such a “gentle” soul, she sure aimed for a head blow every time she got mad at him.

    I still don’t know what to make of the club scene. I know they made Lee Yoo Bi play her own character to make a point that MinHo’s attracted to BoYoung but I feel like I’m missing something… I’ve to think about this some more.

  9. “Yes, I do think it’s odd that at the beginning of each episode, there’s a lot of build-up for Dr. Ye but it only takes only ONE, just one move from MinHo to upset Dr. Ye’s momentum” I liked this, so true.
    Yep, it was me who asked about the title, loved your post about it. It makes total sense. The one who forgot poetry is MinHo. I think we’re all “minho central” here first of all because this is what the show is telling us, that out of the two men, he is the focus of attention.

  10. I tried to force the title’s meaning with Dr Ye. He should be given a chance, too. But I’m not seeing a connection. Can you?

  11. Nope, no connection to Dr Ye. At least so far, they can always invent something though I doubt it. It makes no sense to change the direction of the show after you’re already almost half way there. I’m just beating myself up for not seeing it. Well, sort of. I think I’m watching with a super light mindset and miss important points. Good thing we have you thinking of all sorts of connections.

  12. hahaha yes it was me that shared your blog on dramabeans. I hope you don’t mind. I was trying to feed some hope into fellow beanies who like Minho.

  13. lol. No problem.
    I should have posted something last night but had too much wine for dinner. 🙂
    Will post a thing or two this afternoon.

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