Please put spoilers here for Ep 10. Thanks!
I’m still on my pina colada mode.
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Please put spoilers here for Ep 10. Thanks!
I’m still on my pina colada mode.
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yay!!!the unlikely couple born..?!!Yeonwoo and Mira…yahoooo..!!
😂👍😂
So you were right, @papai!!!
Weren’t you the one who noticed that Yeonwoo had looked at the Princess a bit longer than he should and smiled at her??
❤️💘
😱😱i did..???🤣🤣
i cannot fathom the existence of murderer friend..is fate gonna twisted so much that someone will die & Manwol gonna do something resulting of her cease to exist..?oh my god..
Heidigger! (Runs away screaming in agony).
But the book “Existence and Time” does underline the impression many of us have that this world we’re watching is not really separate from Man Wol, but part of her. It would not exist without her. She’s a creature of time and free will and creates and shapes the world as she moves through it.
At least that’s a little, maybe, about what that book is about but it’s like in the top ten hardest books to understand so I’m not sure I got even the excerpts I was forced to read right.
“My grandfather’s clock” is a great lyric for this and I wonder how the bellboy fits. Both time and existence stop simultaneously ‘when the old man died’.
Would the Hong Sisters go into alternate reality territory? I would have said no, but they are frankly surprising me at every turn.
Yeon Woo definitely feels his connection to Man Weol in that scene. I don’t think it’s attraction. It’s recognition. Perhaps genetic memory of some kind. And very well could bear out PKM3’s hypothesis that his spirit, as firefly, has never left her, although his ghost has gone on towards reincarnation.
I too was positing something like this before he showed up in the flesh, but thought he was part of her tree, twinned as they are. But a firefly works.
Look what Ma Go says to him – that if he doesn’t take the heart pen he will never marry, never love. Perhaps all of his reincarnations have been the same, doomed to loneliness, because part of his heart,whether brotherly or as a lover, has remained with Man Wol.
Time to parse another sentence.
Manwol say to CS… you brought(put in front of me) her to me, and Yeonwoo. Then, You will bring him too? (My translation)
So who is the “him” ? If not the Captain?
And whoever it is, she won’t let him off in this life either…
have been lurking for a while reading about this and have decided to join in the discussion!
The pen Mago 3 gives reincarnated YeonWoo has a blue and white flower on it – I don’t think the white one is supposed to allude to the white flowers Mago 1 gives to the dead, but otherwise what can it be…?
Welcome onboard. I hope the other ladies can answer your question. I’m going to watch Ep 10 tonight.
It took me the longest time to watch this episode with interruptions and long breaks. What a super dense episode!!! It was also longer than most of the other episodes.
Thoughts
This is the ‘coupling’ episode. Knitting MG is trying to knit all the old enemies together into one pink heart LOL. She’s the romantic MG, all out for the resolution of unfinished business and the blooming of romance between past incarnations.
I liked how CS told Chairman Wang’s grand-daughter immediately that he liked someone else. I thought at first that Det Park might be a good match for Wang’s grand-daughter.
I also like that CS sold the painting back into the estate. It looked like the same wall the painting had been in when it first left Chairman’s home.
I was thinking what a hoot it is that in the present incarnations Seo Hwa/Mi Ra who got Yeon Woo/Det Park killed in the past, is finding him attractive enough to want to date him. I’m trying to imagine MW’s aghast face when she sees this! LOL.
So MW expects Chung Myung to turn up in modern day iteration and for herself to go berserk again. Good grief, she does not even want to think of controlling herself from attacking CM to keep CS safe, but expects him to be the buffer between her and CM. All I can say to her last conversation with CS is that, at least she’s honest.
However at last she’s ready to let MG’s medicine (ie CS) work to keep her from self-annihilation. Being able to rest in CS’s arms was probably the first time she’d ever laid down her burden properly and relaxed. It’s just the start of her letting go, and she’s got lots of forgiving to do and lot of contrition to work on so that she can forgive herself. They have not out-and-out admitted to being a couple, but they really should after this.
The blue flower pops up again on the knitted heart pen. I was so amused by MG’s ruse to get that pen into Det Park’s hands that she pretended to need change for the pay phone only to pretend to answer a call on her mobile phone instead.
I was pleased that I caught the parallel with the photo in the children’s book of Wang’s grand-daughter and the photos of the ghost in “Existence and Time”. Where one photo was of a happy grandpa and beloved child, the others were hidden photos of an unwanted CS with an unhappy mother. I thought it sad that her farewell was so curt, but she never had an attachment to her own son. It’s a testament to his father’s care that CS turned out to be such a high achieving, happy and giving person.
What existence and time were supposed to enable MW to achieve, she failed to apply to herself for the longest time. But at last, seeing CS’s grief that his first re-meeting with his mother was only after she had died and still was ashamed of him, MW has become proactive on his behalf, and in the process started her own path to healing. It is a hopeful sign that she recognised the time for CS’s existence to be acknowledged by his dead mother – a sign that she starts to realise that her almost dead self should stop merely existing.
Because of CS’s grief and seeing off his mother, MW has been given the model to follow with Det Park’s entry into her present life: to grieve and to let go.
It was good that she took the time to see from a distance, Yeon Woo in the form of Det Park, to be relieved that his current life is good and to start forgiving herself for the part she played in Yeon Woo’s death.
I’m still on Ep 9. Wait for meeeeee… 😂
Will post in an hour.
@kei, on my screen shot, the flowers on the pink knitted pen were dark blue and light blue. They are likely meant to hark back to the blue flowers on MW’s tree. If those flowers blooming mean that MW’s time has started moving again and she is more alive, then it might mean Det Park/Yeon Woo is getting a blessing from MG to have a happy life, possibly with Mi Ra.
I don’t think one of the flowers was white, but in any case, this Ma Go is not the one who sees to the dead, but encourages the living and wants to get some parties re-connected. So no need to worry about giving out white flowers to Det Park at the moment.
The Hong Sisters sure know how to bind up every character to be connected so that they’ll meet each other. Sanchez and his restaurant has become a pivotal hub. All we’re waiting for now is for Killer Ji Won to meet CS again (and if he causes CS grief, I’d like to see the ire of MW rising against Ji Won) and for MW to realise that Det Park is sweet on ex-enemy Mi Ra, and for police and killer to meet. Hah! Such juicy anticipation!!
@Barbrey, what an interesting thought. This mythical world we are watching, is created by MW who is unknowingly creating it by her decisions, and so it’s time and existence may cease when she does. This is definitely true for the world of the hotel, whose spring is wound up by MW or maybe a better analogy might be that she has stopped winding it up and it’s been in slow decline. But MW herself has been like that clock, standing still too long, tick-tocking in the same spot. CS had to come along to wind her up! I’m glad to see her get a move on in this episode!
@GB. “…she never had an attachment to her own son.”. I’m not sure. If she didn’t feel something strong, why would she keep those photos? They would have been easy enough to throw away, burn, … at least 50 ways… We don’t know her situation but the fact that she kept the pictures even though they presented a severe threat to her, even in death, and that she got a limo ride to heaven points to a sad back story.
And the heart pen… the darker blue thing looks like a flower to me as well. But I thought the other lighter colored object was a leaf. It came out sort of light lime green on my capture. I thought it symbolized the love he had given Manwol, and now returned to him to share with Mira. Thus the whole warning about if you lose it you’ll never love, never marry, etc. Interesting, the different interpretations that arise from slight differences in video display hw/sw.
Question. Are we done with the painting, or will we see it again? I was thinking back to @packmule3’s conjecture that the lake in the painting is Manwol’s lake. There would be a certain symmetry if the painting had a role in Manwol finding peace for herself at the end.
A pen that is red on the outside but has black ink…
I am getting the beginnings of a tormentuous relationship, cute on the outside but very dark in the inside, where it counts (as a pen).
Of course, I may be wrong, but did the Koreans consider red ink as a bad omen?, then it might be a preotection.
BTW, people generally mingle with people at their socioeconomic level. I always wanted to knowwhy a rich man like Sanchez had as a friend and roommate a poor man, also the son of a thief.
But now I know. All the money in the world can’t buy a true friend.
On the other hand I think we will see the painting again. It meant freedom for the tiger and probably will keep representing it later.
Very old custom was to write the names of the dead in red. Modern version is to never ever sign one’s own name in red.
The first thing that came to my mind when I saw a crocheted heart was … hmmm I wonder if the weave is tangled?
@Flying Tool, yes, I did wonder if she kept the pictures because of any attachment. I think shame trumped attachment with her. I’d been hoping for a less abrupt goodbye from the mother, seeing as she was the one more in the wrong than the little child that CS had been. She only told him he could keep the photos and said sorry. Most disappointing to me.
LOL the tangled knitting. Since she gave it away, I took it that it was in good order.
@FGB4877 your monitor shows you different colours from what I see. The heart is pink for me with a dark blue and a light blue flower (it did not look like a leaf). So I didn’t see anything in red or get any significance as to the colour outside and inside the pen. But you may have something there… what looks fine on the outside might be bitter within?
As to the appearance of the painting. I’m glad that it did make a reappearance. I interpreted it as a going back to where one belonged. I thought that the painting had finally found it’s permanent resting place since the loop of getting it sold was finally closed with the last deal on the painting. If it really represents the lake of MW’s past, then maybe we’ll see it again if she ‘heads back’. 😀
Dear @GrowingBeautifully , it seemed more like fuchsia to me. But these word resonated, the pen had a very black ink even if it was very pink outside. Hope those are the hurdles the new lovers will have to go through and not a fatal basic incompatibility that keeps them suffering. When we where children we used to say “los que se pelean se aman” (the ones who fight love each other) and it was an easy way to stop a fight between a boy and a girl. But I hope Yeon-Woo gets a happy ending, Mi-Ra I can send to the Hotel del Luna.
About the two flowers, the white lilies are MaGo1’s gift for the dead while the blue flowers are a reference from Man-Wol’s tree. Did you see that the flower MaGo1 gave to Chang-Sung while sleeping was one from Man-Wol?. I am getting the idea that White Flower from MaGo represent Thanatos (Death) while the Blue Flower is for Dreams (Hypnos). They are twins or intertwined =) .
Question on the meaning of the conversation between Mago 2 and Mago 3 in episode 10.
Viki
Mago 3:If Gu Chan Seong hasn’t taken the medicine, he should be able to see the relationships which were severed.
Mago 2:The side effect of the ghost eye.
DramaCool
Mago 3:If Gu Chan Seong hasn’t taken the medicine, then he’ll be able to see the spirits that have separated.
Mago 2:It’s the curse of being able to see it.
In Mago 3’s sentence, the word used in Korean is 인연 which translates as destiny, which is a lot closer to relationship than spirit.
In Mago 2’s sentence, Viki’s translation “side effect” is literal vs “curse” which requires some insight I don’t have.
In any case, this conversation bothers me. This is separate from Mago 2’s commentary on Mago 3 putting YW and Mira together, so it is I think about some other persons destinies/relationships/spirits. Since seeing whatever the topic is requires CS to be able to see ghosts/spirits, at least one party of the severed relationship is a ghost/spirit.
If this is about MW and CM, then CM will show up as a ghost? This would work very nicely with your interpretation of the Man Who Would Be King episode. I was wonder what your take on the scene was?
At the end of this scene, there is a close up of Mago 3 crocheting another heart. For MW and CM? MW and CS?
@flying_tool, Thanks for the translations! You’re right; I see what you mean.
Like you, I think MGs conversation meant more than just the obvious relationship between Mira and Yeonwoo.
And MG3 did troll us with that pink crocheted heart.
I’ll post a longer reply soon.
I’ve to go to mass now for the Feast Day of the Assumption (ha! Don’t you dare say that this is my feast day, too… simply because I’m full of assumptions. hahaha) then fly off to NYC.
See y’all later.