I’m reposting Growing_Beautifully’s comments here so I won’t lose them. Thanks, GB.
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Thanks @plml3. You’ve covered all the points and more about the voiceovers. I wrote something on them too on DB (in reply to a question by @No_one) but I didn’t post them here. We’re on the same page as to Fate and Destiny, and that she was looking back, knowing what she should have known from hindsight.
I also felt that she was being fatalistic in her knowledge that between her and her doppelganger, only one might survive. That because Fate bumped into her, she had no choice but to do what would be laid out for her.
My last paragraphs: “I see all the voiceovers as a realisation by TE on looking back, about the role FATE had played in her last few months since meeting LG. More, she understands that FATE has chosen her for the ‘good’ purpose of restoring balance. It will probably involve pain and sacrifice, but she decides to embrace her FATE for the greater good.
Her words to LG, I felt, already smacked of ‘Goodbye’. She was preparing for a separation or death or both. Whose? When? How? We have to wait and see.”
You know, I’ve to point this out now before I forget.
Both TaeEul and Luna are kind to their Fates when they met them. TaeEul was bumped by the bike boy. Her ID fell through the grate, and the child apologized. Instead of shouting at the bike boy for not watching where he was going, she reassured him that it was fine. And the child asked if he could remedy the situation for her.
Boy: I’m sorry. Should I try to get it out?
TE: You can’t. It all went down the drain.
Then TaeEul lamented, “My performance assessment. My promotion.” On one level, this could be interpreted as TE saying, “Oh well, there goes my ID and all the bonus points linked to it.” But on level, I said earlier that she sounded as if she was regretfully looking at her past life in the police force. I thought the “regrets” there was a premonition.
Then, TaeEul forced a laughter, and reassured the child, “It’s okay.” Her phone rang. She checked who it was but didn’t pick up because the boy was still looking at her. Addressing the child again, she sent him on his way.
TE: I know it’s a mistake. You can go now. It’s okay. It’s okay.
And the boy left.
In Episode 8, Luna was close enough to yoyo boy to give him her van key for sakekeeping.
Yoyo: You got out early. And your style has changed.
Wordlessly, Luna opened her hand and Yoyo boy removed the lanyard from his neck and handed it back to Luna.
NOTE: this is the EQUIVALENT of TaeEul’s lanyard. TaeEul didn’t ask the bike book to retrieve it for her. Luna asked for hers back. On the lanyard was her van key and (I’m assuming) a dogtag. She pocketed her lanyard and tossed her “White Rabbit” jacket to the boy.
Luna: I just grabbed a random one on the run. It’s getting cold. Put it on or you’ll freeze to death.
YoYo: Then why do you live in a van? You steal stuff every day, and you’re still broke?
Luna: No, I’ve a lot of money. But I also have a lot of enemies. It’s a world you don’t need to know about.
She walked away. The Yoyo boy took the jacket and open it up. He looked after Luna with what looks like surprise on his face.
I thought it was interesting comparison/contrast. For TaeEul, her meeting with Fate was accidental. He offered to help, she didn’t accept it. All her life was linked to that badge. Most of her friends are associated with that badge; she got to know Lee Gon because of that badge.
For Luna, her meeting with Fate was casual. I guess, given her thuggish life, she lived knowing she could die anytime. Also remember her character write-up: she only had 3 months to live due to cancer. Her life is linked to the van key because she’s homeless. She lives in her van. She has nothing and nobody to weep for.
@pkml3 Glad if my wild thinking helps! Errr… here’s more…
To give a little context about the fatalism of Tae Eul … In my other post over here, comparing TE to Luna as mirror images, I mentioned:
“Tae Eul wanted to dismiss Fate quickly, believing that it was pointless to try to retrieve her ID Card. It’s interesting that Fate remained with her for longer than would be necessary. He apologised and offered to ‘change the fate’ of the ID Card, but TE didn’t even want to try. She had to tell him 3 times that it was OK in order to dismiss him. In this case, TE was fatalistic about that ID Card (and her Identity). So Fate hung around.”
I suggested that TE was becoming more fatalistic or becoming more aware that FATE had more influence on her life than she’d thought. This awareness grew in her and it was manifested in her thoughts/voiceovers, and would impact her decisions.
Yes, I agree TaeEul appeared “fatalistic” here in the sense that she wouldn’t go against fate. She would accept it.
And that’s why from the start I always thought that it would be Lee Gon who would break free of the time loop — lol. If ever there’s one. Remember the time loop is only a theory I suggested. I could be wrong. We’re not sure yet because the writer hasn’t shown it to us.
Lee Gon was a mathematical guy. And a belief in this “fate” doesn’t compute in a mathematical world. Theoretical math geeks are always looking for a break=through in their understanding of the world. That’s how pi and Euler’s number e were discovered. And they push the boundaries to see if a new world exists outside the common, accepted “constructs.”
In Episode 3 at 35:57, TaeEul accused him of making things up.
TE: Stop making things up.
LG: You should know though if I make up something, then that becomes the law.
hahaha. I thought that was so witty! You see, he’s correct. When math “theories” are made up, they do indeed become “law.”
Just think of the 2000-year-old Pythagorean THEOREM. a2 + b2 = c2
So, Lee Gon’s statement was accurate in two levels. As a ruler, right! Whatever he thinks of does become the law of the land. But as a mathematician, his statement is correct, too. Whatever he thinks of *can* become a law.
I find the script of “The King: Eternal Monarch” to be funny and ingenious. I understand why knetizens wouldn’t take to it. It takes more time to digest, decipher, and unravel the dialogues.
And it’s partly Lee Gon’s fault. (No! Not the actor, okay). You see, in the beginning, he said his thoughts in such a regal (because he’s a king) and matter-of-fact (because he’s logical) tone. So with LG’s dry conversation, the audience would find it off-putting. But with time and among friends, he interacts more casually. And the character really is a funny guy.
On a side note: This is half-and-half.
All along, I thought I thought Lee Gon meant half-and-half. You can’t blame me. I’m a coffee-drinker. hahaha.
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From my other post:
Voice over continues: … that LL is alive and the two worlds are getting mixed up. At least at the moment when I sensed the transcendental power that was trying to restore balance [Here we see the Boy, Fate and his red string yo-yo outside the bookshop.] I should’ve known before we had to face this situation. That it’s something like fate, so to speak.
So this voiceover is from hindsight. I note that she does not see Fate as something bad, but as something that was trying to restore the balance in the universes. She will later realise that she’s part of Fate’s plan in bringing about the balance. Because balance is supposed to be a good thing (after the terrible imbalance caused by LL’s killings) I feel, TE is at peace with being ‘used’ by Fate.
Yes, balance in life is good. That’s the end goal: balance.
But as to HOW balance is achieved? Ah! As Hamlet would say, “There’s the rub.” That’s the biggest difficulty, isn’t it? The method to restore the balance should always always take into consideration, the human lives. You MUST not achieve balance by sacrificing human lives. (That’s the “categorical imperative” of Kant that I mentioned to you, in passing. :))
That’s why Lee Gon said to restaurant minion, “Only God can restore that balance. What you scoundrels are doing is murder.”
And it’s important for viewers to remember that Lee Lim the Bad Uncle doesn’t believe in gods. He got “rid” of the gods from his worldview because the gods didn’t fit in his narrative. The gods didn’t nothing in his version of the “creation myth.”
King: Hyungnim, what are you doing?
Bad Uncle: Do you still not know what I’m about to do?
King: Don’t do this. Put that sword down. This is treason.
Bad Uncle: To you, it might be nothing but treason. But I picked up this sword to gain something even greater.
This means he wasn’t only after the crown, or the throne. He wasn’t there for a “regime change.”
King: What is it that you’re willing to kill for? Do you not fear the punishment of the skies?
Bad Uncle: The punishment of the skies? I plan to become the very being who gives punishment from the skies. Your Majesty. Brother. God never created humans. It was the weak who created God.
Historically speaking, and just going with the numbers, there are more atrocities committed by godless societies than god-fearing ones. #facts
When you remove god from the equation, you end up with least common denominator among men: their basic — and basest — instincts. Having a Supreme Being in place actually elevates and uplifts people to obey higher morals and virtues than human constructs.
In this kdrama, we’re seeing this unfold in Lee Lim’s character. Lee Lim removed the gods, and replaced them with himself. We’re seeing his distorted and grotesque view of justice, balance, benevolence, retribution, and mercy in action.
Separately I played around with the idea of identity, how TE thought she knew who she was. She had a family and home (Luna seems to have neither) and she identified herself with her role as a Detective of the Metropolitan Police Department (or something like that). To her confusion, LG (who was at that time Unidentified) assigned her further identities of being a mere nothing, ‘0’, which at the same time was the most important number, and a Queen. But FATE was giving her the job/identity of ‘Balance Restorer of the Universes’.
True, I agree.
My only problem with her mentality that her function or her duty in life is to restore balance in the universe is now, she’s become to accept that she’ll “collateral damage.”
Now, I know my blog posts are being translated by google, lol. So here’s what I mean by collateral damage —
In war, there are always injuries and deaths that are unintended. Civilians aren’t intentionally targeted, but because of the armed conflict, they can become casualties. Now, in this kdrama, the Queen aka TaeEul can become the collateral damage in the Bad Uncle fight to get the Manpasikjeok from Lee Gon.
In fact, he specifically said that he had NOTHING to do with TaeEul’s addition to the game.
Bookstore owner: Your Highness, that does not belong to this world.
Uncle: Things got entangled strangely. I did not make this move.
Bookstore owner: That girl is very famous in this world. If you pay her, she finds people and even steals things for you. She does everything for money.
The bookstore owner is very quick to capitalize on the situation. He knew that the face on the ID wasn’t Luna but he knew Luna could be used to go after the girl on the ID. You see, that’s difference between the two henchmen. The Korean one, the driver, is just good at killing and DOING the dirty job. This Corean version, however, is a thinker. So between the two of them, if I were the Uncle this Corean version is more valuable.
Uncle: I need you to track down and bring her to me.
Bookstore owner: Yes, Your Highness.
Uncle: (talking to TaeEul’s ID) Then, will I be able to catch up with you?
I contrasted TE’s dismissal of Fate with how Luna, who is said to have no actual identity apart from her name, was already on good terms with Fate. She sought him out to get back her stuff but exchanged that with her jacket, and she entered into conversation with him. I’m thinking, that for the job of the righting of the imbalance of the universe, since Fate made friends with both ladies, he planned to make use of both Luna and TE, to unite both sides of the universe or to close the portal between them.
Perhaps it was this that TE spoke of from hindsight, that she should have known, since Fate knocked into her.
It took me a long time to realize this. When it is fate there are no coincidences. Your fate is determined by the choices you make, but there are times when your fate chooses you.
Yes, I’d like to think too that Luna and TaeEul would help each other to save their worlds.
We know TaeEul’s motivation. We’ve been told from the start.
LG: It’s dangerous to be a cop.
TE: I know. Not everyone in the world can be brave. So I decided to become brave.
LG: (stopping to stare at her) That’s cool, Lieutenant Jeong TaeEul.
We were reminded again in Episode 7.
Later, she said this:
TE: The two worlds shouldn’t get mixed up like this. They’re supposed to stay on their respective paths. But the two worlds are colliding. and I discovered it. So what else could I do? I decided to investigate. I’m a police officer in the Republic of Korea.
The problem here is Luna’s MOTIVATION to save the world. We don’t know what motivates her. Is it just survival? Is it revenge? Is it love? We don’t know. So for now, she’s open-ended. 🙂
@packmule3, thank you for these ideas. I haven’t had any idea that Tae-Eul and Luna might work together to save their respective universes. I have been assuming that Luna is more dangerous to Tae-Eul than anyone else and could potentially fill in for her in very crucial moments. As you said, we don’t know Luna’s motivation or why she is saving money. You wrote, “She has nothing and nobody to weep for” and it sounds like there may be no one to weep for her. What she told the man who framed her about being vulnerable by having family made me concerned about the firming up of the relationship between LG and Tae-Eul. She seemed utterly ruthless and vicious.
But it could also be taken that perhaps Luna has nothing that Lee Lim can threaten her with. No family, not even her life, if she knows that she has only 3 increasingly unpleasant months to live.
Thanks @pkml3.
LOL we’re a bunch of self mortifying Bitches: instead of insisting that show should make sense without us putting in much effort, we endure the torture of deconstructing the script and scrutinising the expressions and action. 😆 I did wonder if so many others had it right and I was being stubbornly naive in thinking the dialogues were fine, because we just had to penetrate the levels of meaning. 🤪
I actually began with the stereotypical expectation of expecting nothing much from the Lee Gon character. However his deadpan humour and wit took me by surprise, and his characterisation made sense. That’s when I started sailing back and forth between our Shallow and Cynical Islands, and hanging out on the bridge, willing to like the characters and invest in them.
LL is one of the more interesting villains in dramas that I’ve watched. Speaking of creation myths, he is literally ‘playing God’ and remaking minions ‘in his own image’. You were right when you pointed out how he appeals to the baser side of each character, to work on them and manipulate their thinking (like a serpent in a garden we know) and worst of all, he corrupts them totally by making them complicit in his evil.
When LL was surprised by TE’s entering the equation and admitted he had nothing to do with it, and wanted to get Luna involved, I was both encouraged and anxious. It meant that Fate’s intervention was going to work, but as you say, Luna is a wildcard, therefore how it works is questionable. Since LL never had TE in the equation before, he will have to redo his sums to get his own beautiful solution.
LG, on the other hand, always had had TE in his equation. He had held the identity of his beautiful answer for years, while he still currently seeks the beautiful solution to go with it. This gives him an added strength and weakness. On the one hand, TE will always be on his side to support and help him. On the other, she will hard-headedly play by her own rules of what she feels is right as a cop, which will probably be different from what LG wants.
We see her in the beginning of the series, interrogating LL in the normal process of the law. However LL won’t respect the law.
LG will approach the fight against LL as a White King, wanting to keep his Queen by his side or safe on her world. TE, of course, will not stay still. I want to see her make those grand Queen chess moves to take out the Black Pawns. If Yeong is LG’s Unbreakable Sword, then I trust Shin Jae to be TE’s. Or they can be the faithful Knights who wield those swords.
I think I had it in my notes that by bringing Shin Jae into ROK, LL had shot himself in the foot without realising it. I’m trusting that once Shin Jae gets his bearings and accepts his nightmares as his reality, he’s going to be a force to be reckoned with in the ultimate showdown. If he’d remained in KOC, he’d never have met TE. But now that he regards her as family, he will not let her get hurt if he can help it. LL has inadvertently created a problem for himself.
This sentence is obscure to me. I take it to mean, that he wants to meet her literally, but also if Luna is to be in play, that he hopes for more. Perhaps to use Luna to catch up with TE in knowing the plans of LG, or in having influence over LG as she does.
So show at half-way point will now going forward, lay out the pieces on the chess board. In the process I hope it will address what happened in 1994, in the characters’ 2019/2020.
Yes. I agree. It does sound like Luna is totally bad because TaeEul is a good character.
However, there’s honor even among thieves. 🙂 If we can find Luna’s “honor code,” she can be persuaded to be an agent of good. I’m giving her character a chance because of the way she treated the yo-yo boy. She gave him her coat because it was going to be cold.
That’s an act of charity right there. It was a selfless act. She needed a jacket too since she was homeless, and living out of her van. But she gave it to someone whom she thought was WEAKER than her.
That tells me that she was operating on “the survival of the fittest” worldview. There were still people whom she would protect even if that meant her discomfort or disadvantage. Do you see what I mean?
Sure, the jacket might be bloodstained and smelly. Nevertheless, she didn’t have to give her jacket when she needed it herself.
That’s why I think her character is still salvage-able. 🙂
@packmule3, you wrote “She needed a jacket too since she was homeless, and living out of her van. But she gave it to someone whom she thought was WEAKER than her.” It was also an identifier for her. I think she was clever to give it away but kind to give it to the boy. She was also kind to the child in the cafe, waiting for the child to leave with its mother before she attacked the man.
I was thinking about honor among thieves as well. That’s one reason why she was so brutal to the man who framed her and sent her to jail. Luna has extraordinary skills to have escaped capture so far. But Tae-Eul represents the opposite of thieves. Also, if Luna is on the very lowest tier of KoC society, what might be her reaction to royalty? I can testify that it’s pretty mixed here where I live. Luna certainly didn’t have much respect for the PM, either, until she mooted the point that there was a look-alike (and inadvertantly gave Luna a new bracelet.)
Dear @Fern, the PM presented herself in a strong manner in front of her when she was released. She screeched her car almost before running over her. For PM it was a way to intimidate Luna… that backfired miserably, for Luna correctly appraised her as a bully and reacted to her in the right way to behave towards such a person: to show her she was not impressed and to sternly warn her against contacting her again in such a rude way.
BTW loved PM’s mother a lot. A grounded character unlike her daughter and happy to be what she is. I would have loved for her to spill the beans about Lee Lim’s visit regarding his umbrella. That could have been a big clue about where he hides his piece of the Manpasikjeok. Regrettably that will not happen in the script due to the need to have the people with some pieces of the puzzle apart (and character-wise PM does not have a lot of imagination).
@FGB4877
One question: when LR goes to collect the umbrella from PM’s mom he has a similar umbrella in his hand… how? Or am i wrong?
Also why would he leave his precious umbrella at a downtrodden shop? Unless it is a tracking device or something. We still dont know why did he send the PM those newspapers. Will Pm be his red queen? The possibilities….
Any thoughts?
@No one, I wrote before that both LR and the PM like red, she for clothes and he for his art projects (and his work gloves with the red tips, ewwww.) But that’s colour/clothing theory and I’m afraid that @pm3 will ban me. But it’s a good analogy. The wanna-be red king and queen. But LG has a red court gown and TE had a picture with her head pasted on wearing a similar traditional red gown near her computer when she said, ‘we never had a photo together…’
@No one, yes LL seems to have more than 1 umbrella. I guess he hangs on tightly to the THE umbrella with the flute piece in it and leaves another umbrella to wire tap whoever he wants. Lately I’ve noticed that the camera zooms in onto the top of his umbrella to ‘show us’ the end of the manpaksikjeok. I didn’t get a chance to see the top of the umbrella left at the fish shop. The camera did not stay on it long or at the right angle.
I haven’t watched Ep 9 and 10, but yes, I agree with GB.
I always assumed that LL had an intact half of the manpaksikjeok. The umbrella he left at the fish lady’s stall only had a listening device or recording device to spy on Koo when she would stay with her mom.
Can someone please explain a summary of what is happening so far because I am so confused. I know that this is intentional on the part of the directors and writer as they are building up the time travel element but I just don’t understand what could be happening. It seems like Lee Gon is doing something outside of our screens we have no idea about. So many things happening like the time aspect and the in-between world with the balloons and time jumps… please somebody explain in layman’s term else I would not be able to sleep at all.
Hi @CoreazyForYou… Wow! “explain a summary of what is happening so far…”??
Since you mention Lee Gon in particular, let’s just focus on him.
1) Lee Gon has been consumed with the desire to find the person on the ID Card, but he has failed for 25 years. At the same time, his mathematical mind and intelligence makes him suspicious of the autopsy report on Lee Lim. It is too neat and his intuition or something makes him think that Prince BuYeong who did the autopsy lied, but he loves Prince B and does not want to accuse him of wrongdoing.
Because Prince B hid the truth that the corpse was not LL, LL was able to recoup. He found his way to ROK and started his long plan to regain the flute and all the power it would give him.
2)For some reason we do not know why, (but I think it’s the work of Fate/the yo-yo boy, who’s trying to bring back balance to the universes) before the imbalance becomes worse, a person whom we think is Luna in a rabbit jacket lured LG into the bamboo forest so that he discovered the portal. The flute in his whip summoned the portal. It’s probably NOT coincidence that he was going riding, therefore he’d have his horse and his whip with him.
If not for this, LG would not have discovered the portal at that time.
3) In ROK LG discovers to his joy that Tae Eul exists, that he was not just mistaken in believing in her, and that he likes her very much, despite her rudeness. He experiments with and without the whip/flute and knows that it is the flute that enables him to locate the portal. He also is puzzled by time stopping for only him.
4) LG goes back and forth between the universes mostly to see TE and in the meantime he also discovers the No Man’s Land of orangey skies without wind or time. I’ll call it NMLand for short. @packmule3 says this NMLand is outside of the portal, but I still feel it’s in a ‘space/time’ between the 2 worlds. Being mathematical and scientific, he goes to release balloons etc in NMLand to see what happens. He finds that nothing moves, nothing changes and time stands still there.
If he is in NMLand for a few minutes it could be hours outside, similarly if he’s inside for days, it could be that months have passed by. This accounts for how the bad uncle LL stays young looking.
5) When LG discovers that the restaurant owner recognises him as King in ROK, he realises that people from KOC have been coming over. He knows from TE that a recording of KOC news is found in a phone in ROK. When he finds out that their doppelgangers in KOC have been reported dead… he realises that a plan to replace people is in place, and the only person other than himself who could be making this happen is LL who has the other half of the flute. So he has to catch LL.
6) So now we are at the stage where LG wants to catch and probably execute LL in KOC, where his laws will apply. But LL, being smart and well prepared, and ruthlessly willing to kill many people, has LG at a disadvantage.
I believe LG will try to keep LL in KOC, but he cannot publicly denounce him as LL the traitor anymore. We see what happened when he tried in Ep 10. He has no way to go back on the lies of Prince B without making the Royal Court lose face. He also cannot explain to the public how LL has not aged.
From the beginning, viewers here on this blog have been toying with the idea of time travel. If LG can find a way to go back in time, he may do so to right the wrongs, prevent the crimes, etc. But we have not seen the logic of time travel yet.
Throughout all these happenings, we are also given metaphors of legend, fairytales and dreams to help (or hinder!) our interpretation of what is happening. These you can read about these in the other posts.
Hope this answers some of your questions! 😃
Helloo, I’m new to this site but do allow me to start by admitting how incredibly observant and articulate you all are in analysing and expressing your theories and ideas – to the point that’s it almost intimidating!
Now getting to my theory, I agree with @GB on how “we haven’t seen the logic of time travel yet”. I, myself, have been trying to push the idea of time-travelling for the longest time but even if there was a logical way to explain it (there isn’t any so far), a time-loop makes everything way too messy given how the current plot has been laid out. And it was only after reading @GB’s comment that it suddenly struck me, what are the possibilities if time travelling was removed from the equation?
What if the flute really is the major player here? I mean, we don’t exactly know the extent of its power(s). The writer could easily derive any ending she wanted by making use of the flute’s power(s). To top it off, she could also make sense out of it unlike with time-travelling, since the flute is a fictional object whilst time-travelling is an existing concept amongst the viewers thus limiting the writer’s options to play around and experiment with the plot. What do you guys think?
Apologies beforehand if I failed to convey my message or if it sounds too far-fetched.
Hi @AvidOverthinker
Which was the comment that brought you to this thought? (Sorry I wrote too much and don’t even know which you are referring to LOL)
I’ve been finding that from the beginning, the flute has played the ‘bigger role’ in the show, in that it makes many more appearances than the sword, both in the dialogue and visibly in the whip and umbrella. Compared with the sword, it would get top billing LOL.
Sometimes I feel that show suddenly injects King Arthur, plus signs (the shape of the sword is a plus sign), cracks and Unbreakable Swords to remind us that there is another inanimate player in this show ie The Four Tiger Sword. Other than having poetic lines to remind a king of his duty, it’s been pretty low key and silent. It’s been the voice of the flute that we have heard, the manifestation of the flute’s powers that we’ve seen.
The sword, by comparison, has been … ordinary.
But the thought strikes me … could it be that the realms of the supernatural, with its as yet un-calculated powers, be meant to be defeated by the most ordinary thing? Of all people to be thrown into the mix, is an ordinary detective, whom show is hinting is to bring balance into the ‘force’ or between the universes. Without royal titles or power (she’s not even promoted to the level of her peers!), and with a father who absent-mindedly does not even know when she comes or goes, this young lady is added to the game.
We might take the Alice chess game metaphor where Alice comes in as a pawn and has to make her way across the checkerboard to be made queen.
With regard to your question about being limited by the ‘time-travel’ device, I feel that any creative writer can still add a bit to what we expect and turn things on their heads to surprise us. On the other hand, it may be good if in contrast with the rest of the improbabilities whose depth of logic we have not yet plumbed (and we add to this of course the flute and what else it might be able to do), time travel comes in as something we feel we have a bit of a handle on.
Until now, we do not know how LL gets his minions across the worlds. Does he keep opening the portals for them to move over, or does he allow others to have a part of the flute to do the people transferring. Show has been concentrating more on what the characters think, feel and do (more character driven) than on the magic that they have to deal with.
How the ordinary TE can come in as a pawn and not get involved in time travel, and still bring balance … or how she does time travel and gets out of there intact and brings balance … or how she goes in, gets stuck and gets saved etc … is the story we are hoping to be told. The same goes for less ordinary LG, or more so for him because he’s the main lead and not just the male lead.
And yes of course the writer can still keep tweaking the ending any way she likes, but it will be consistent with her own views of life, destiny, the afterlife, reality and what constitutes her logic.