Hiro90, a CS major, emailed me to share this information:
At the beginning of ep 8, we see YongSan stayed behind after everyone had left under the excuse of backing up the project’s source code while ominous background music and narrations were played. Well, what he did is actually backing up the project’s source code (from what is shown). I don’t think there is actually any problem with that as what was shown is very normal. The only curious thing I found is that he’s working on the company desktop but the computer username is shown to be from his laptop (KYS-Laptop). It could be something or it could be a red herring. Who knows.
Thanks, Hiro90! Do you happen to work at a start-up, too? Or Google? 👍
I replied to Hiro90 with my one byte of computer knowledge. Although I couldn’t ask my menfolk about computer codes (since I keep my drama-viewing habit a secret 🤫), I understand that the “git add” command is a standard command. However, what’s written after that command, “~source ~/Myproj” sets off warning bells. Is Youngsan doing something shady? Why would he call it “my project,” with that personal possessive pronoun.
Like Hiro90, I noticed that he was working from his personal laptop. I thought it was odd because he should have been saving on and accessing Sand Box’s server, instead of his personal laptop.
Is he a traitor in the making? Say it ain’t so, Youngsan!!
Anyway, we shall soon see. That’s the extent of my cyber-sleuthing since I’m not a computer techie.
As for titles, Hiro90 said this of Episode 7 title, “Burn Rate: The Rate at Which a Start-Up Spends Money”
In ep 7’s epilogue, Dalmi said that she still prefers the “old” Dosan while the kiss is shown. I would like to think that being/working in close proximity with DS she is “burning” through (a better word would be “replacing” I guess) whatever feelings she has for her old penpal; and if JP does not choose to do something about his feelings soon, eventually her fondness/preference for old DS will burn out.
I totally agree with you, Hiro90!
Have I mentioned lately how much I like the titles of this show? They focus our attention to the plot movement and allow us many layers of interpretation.
I’ll give three.
1. One is from the business side. Through his letter-writing, the “old” Dosan, aka JP, was the initial investor on the personal development of Dalmi. He wrote the letters with Grandma.
But the capital he’d invested in Dalmi was fast disappearing — or burning out — with every single day that Dalmi stayed by Dosan’s side.
In start-up companies, the burn rates estimate how long the start-ups can survive without additional funding. In this story, the burn rate of Dalmi can be estimated by the number of crises that she and Dosan survive as a couple. The more challenges and difficulties that these two people overcome together, the faster the burn rate of JP’s investments is.
In fact, judging by that passionate kiss of Dalmi and Dosan at the end of the episode, it’s clear to me that all of JP’s initial capital spontaneously combusted.
His “investment” on Dalmi just went up in flames. He went bust.
2. Another way of interpreting burn rate is through losing one’s temper.
You see, burn rate also refers to the metabolism of a person, or how quickly the body burns up calories. In this kdrama, burn rate is about how quickly the character burns through his reservoir of patience and good will, and loses his temper.
JP and Dosan have different “burn rates.”
JP burns out quickly.
Remember: He allowed Dosan’s “We’ll see about that” to get under his skin.
It bothered him so much that he made a u-turn and dashed after Dosan at Dalmi’s house.
Also in this episode, he lost his temper when Dalmi offered him a sack for “incombustible waste.” He had called up his assistant, Dongcheon, to ask about it. “Do you happen to know where I can get the special bag for…incombustible waste? Do you know where I can buy one? No, no. Incombustible, not ‘incompatible.’ No! It’s not a dating site! Incombustible. As in, it doesn’t burn.”
lol. I thought this could be alluding to the kind of relationship he had with Dalmi. They were incompatible; she was “incombustible.”
“Incombustible” is used like metaphor. When you don’t have feelings for somebody, you’re not going to burst into flames (i.e., combust) in his company. Your feelings won’t burn for him. You’re 100% fireproof from his romantic overtures.
When he arrived at the garage, Dalmi gave him a bag for incombustible waste. He immediately felt guilty because the bag was to be used for her plant which he intended to throw in the trash. As a result, he became testy and accusatory.
JP: Why are you so nosy?
Dalmi: Sorry? Nosy? I was just trying to help–
JP: You are nosy if you enjoy forcing unwanted help or advice upon others. I never asked you to get me this. Why do something like this and make me…
Does this sound familiar? We’ve seen this before in the olden days when he got angry at Grandma’s offer of help.
JP: (returning the sack) I don’t want help like this.
At first, Dalmi took the sack back with a meek apology. But she too flipped and got mad at him. She accused him of being nosy, too, for helping them out without first asking. He’s shocked that she got mad at him.
Dalmi: …If you really don’t like it, ask for help in advance. Say, “I’m struggling with this. I need this.” You say it’s okay if you ask for it first.
JP: So if I ask you, what will you do next?
Dalmi: I will help you to the best of my ability. And I’ll be the first one to help you.
JP: Why?
Dalmi: Because I like how nosy you are. (gives him the sack) So even if I get all nosy, just put up with it. You’ll grow to love it.
And so he calmed down.
See that? He has a quick burn rate. But as Dalmi demonstrated, sometimes the best way to get him to chill is to fight fire with fire.
****I’ve to make a mental reminder to discuss nosiness vs hands later.
Dalmi and Dosan’s burn rates also come up in this episode. They actually talked about it at the rooftop, after Dosan’s project was temporarily shelved. Dalmi knew that he was disappointed so she went looking for him. But his real cause of his worries was surprising.
Dalmi: I’m sorry.
Dosan: For what?
Dalmi: The business you want to start. It’s a great idea but you know, it’ll cost a lot. To make that much money–
Dosan: I know. I’m just worried about you. That’s all.
Dalmi: Me? Why?
Dosan: Chairman Won Dujeong. Isn’t your mom married to him?
He deserved brownie points because he was way ahead of the game here. He was thinking of the welfare of the PERSON, Dalmi, not the company.
Dalmi: Yes.
Dosan: You don’t want to get involved.
Dalmi: Right, I don’t. I hate him more than cockroaches.
Dosan: Why?
Dalmi: Because Grandma once said that gaining an enemy is like losing 100 million won, and gaining an ally is like earning that much money. We’re already dirt broke, so we can’t lose money and fall into debt. I’ll suck it up and try to gain an ally. I’m very patient.
Dosan: Me, too. You know, my nickname is LB. Get it? Living Buddha.
Then he explained how he coped with anger. He knitted. While he knitted, he would imagine what he would do, like smashing things, and yelling at people. He claimed that visualization helped him calm down. Dalmi responded that she did the same thing. She also pictured herself smashing stuff and arguing with people, like in a blockbuster movie.
Dosan: (jokingly) You knit, too?
Dalmi: No, minus the knitting. Who knits when they’re angry?
Dosan: I do. I told you just now.
They laughed at Dosan’s absurd stories.
Dosan: Thinking about the things you’d do when you’re angry really helps you calm down. Seriously, believe me.
Dalmi: Sigh, you haven’t changed at all. You were like this 15 years ago, and even now. No one understands me better than you do.
Dosan: You think so.
I like the camera shot here.
To me, the staging of the actors has a simply but clear message. Their characters face plenty of barriers (the steel fencing) and the great unknown (the city lights in the background). But they’ll have fun together (they’re looking and smiling at each other).
Cinematography doesn’t have to be fancy to convey a message. One thing I thought was overdone in “Record of Youth” was the 360 degree camera spin. It distracted me from watching me two people conversing, and it didn’t fit with the mood generated by two actors. You see, Park BoGum and his costar, Park Sodam had little chemistry to warrant that head-spinning effect. lol.
Dosan: (turning serious) Dalmi, I’ve changed a lot. I don’t really remember what happened 15 years ago. No, actually, I don’t even want to remember that time. I wish you hadn’t known me back then.
Good boy!
This was a close Dosan could get to telling his side of the story without revealing anything to Dalmi. He dearly wished that he hadn’t been part of the lie. This was also his way of asserting that he was the real Dosan, and distancing himself from the old, fictional Dosan who was created by two well-meaning people.
Dalmi: Why?
Dosan: Because I was a total loser back then. You always thought highly of me, but I wasn’t like that.
Truth! I don’t think he realized it but he was speaking the truth in two levels. First, he was telling her that the boy of her dreams was nothing like him. She’d put the old Dosan on a pedestal so high that it was hard for him to live up to it. Second, even the old Dosan (aka JP) would find it hard to live up to the imaginary Dosan because of the fake stories (e.g., Monggi the dog, and playing Go-Stop on birthday). lol.
Dalmi: (sighing, she obviously didn’t want to let go of that old Dosan)
Dosan offered his hand to Dalmi, and told her, “Let’s go make money.”
Speaking of hands, I don’t think this writer creates heroes who are underhanded.
Her male leads are conventionally heroic. They’re idealistic, intelligent, courageous, principled, and selfless. They’re diamond-in-the-rough. She likes social outcasts with a heart of gold. Dalpo, her hero in “Pinocchio,” is in the same mold as Dosan. So, if you’re looking for an antihero, you might want to try another kdrama.
To continue with the burn rate of Dosan…
When they paid Director Won’s Morning Group a visit to pitch their project, they discovered that their services were only needed to collect 100,000 images files, not to develop an AI project. They were being taken for a ride because they were “clueless rookies.”
In addition, the Director’s son, and InJae’s stepbrother began addressing himself as Dalmi’s “oppa.” Remember, Dosan disliked it when their teammate Saha spoke informally to them, so he found the stepbrother’s familiar behavior with Dalmi rude.
Dalmi sensed that Dosan was losing his cool when he clenched his fist. She placed her hand on his to calm him down.
Here, I was impressed with Dosan’s burn rate. He knew that they were being exploited AND insulted at the same time. Drinking water was probably his way of dousing the growing rage in him…since he didn’t bring his knitting needles with him. lol.
Dosan and Dalmi didn’t need to be a hotshot CEO like JP to understand what was going on here. Like JP foresaw, they were being hustled to take on the menial task in exchange for good references and association with Morning Group.
Duh.
As if it the insults from InJae’s stepbrother weren’t enough, they learned that Director Won never intended to make good on his promise to pay 50 million won for their AI proposal. Instead, he “paying” them by allowing them to promote his company’s logo. His company logo, he bragged, was worth more than 50 million won.
Dosan and Dalmi both seethed in anger but they held it in. Remember? Both of them said that they were patient. What finally triggered both of them was the Director’s attack on Dalmi. Dosan’s burn rate was revealed at the precise moment.
Director: Do you know why I chose SamTech company out of all companies? If you choose to follow your mother, you’d be my daughter now.
Dosan: (immediately looked at Dalmi)
Director: You went through a lot because you didn’t.
Dalmi: (she was fast approaching the limits of her patience)
Director: It would’ve been nice if you’d chosen me like your sister.
Dalmi: (clenched her hand)
Director: I always felt bad for you. Now that I can help you, I feel a little better…
Dosan: (strode forward and smashed the glass nameplate)
There! That was his burn rate! I’d calculate his burn rate to be 50 million won in 3 seconds. lol.
Dosan: (addressing the Director) Shut up. (addressing Dalmi) Dalmi. I can’t work on this project. Sorry.
So, do you see the difference in burn rates of JP and Dosan? JP becomes easily volatile (and voluble) over little things, like Dosan’s challenge, “We’ll see about that,” and Dalmi’s incombustible sack. For his part, Dosan lives up to his living buddha moniker. His burn rate is slow because he’s easy-going and patient.
However, JP is a “Good Boy” in the sense that his anger blows over quickly. Often than not, his bark is worse than his bite. On the other hand, Dosan ignites when he reaches his flashpoint, and he goes Kaboom! His wrath is a lot scarier than JP because he’s willing to walk away and take vengeance.
Dosan: Dalmi. I really tried to suck it up and just do it, but I can’t. I’m sorry you gained an enemy because of me. But this is wrong.
Dosan: (promising) I’ll become more influential than Won Dujeong. A hundred million…no. You lost 100 million won because of me, so 200 million…No. I’ll bring you ten billion won. So forget about this project and —
Dalmi: (kissed him)
lol.
As you can see, her first kiss didn’t turn out EXACTLY like she imagined it to be. It didn’t start out smoothly because she lunged for him.
3. Last, but not the least, burn rate can also be understood from the steaming kettle perspective.
I think there’s a reason we’re given this screenshot of the kettle steaming twice in this episode. Don’t you think so?
Grandma: Dalmi, which Dosan do you like better?
Dalmi: What do you mean?
Grandma: The one who used to write you letters 15 years ago or the one you met again as an adult?
Dalmi: What kind of question is that? Why separate the two? It’s the same guy.
Grandma: I know that. But if we were to separate the two, which Dosan would you pick?
Dalmi: Well. If I have to pick one:
The kettle began to steam, signaling to us, viewers that Dalmi was about to make important announcement.
Dalmi: (staring into space) I’d still pick the one who wrote me those letters 15 years ago.
Meanwhile, the viewers saw JP stopping to look at nutrients for the plant he wanted to throw away. For me, this moment symbolizes his decision to give his “emotions” for Dalmi a chance to grow.
The background music started. It went:
In a dream of unknown place
I think I saw I saw myselft being happy once again
Approaching tomorrow looks anxiousBut I can’t let go of me easily.
Walking through the brilliant light
The maze that tries to trap me.Whenever that happens, I remember you.
Please don’t let me forget my dream.
In the place where the stars are pouring down
We’re gonna be together in the end…source: kgagas.com/red-velvet-future/
Grandma: So the old Dosan?
Dalmi: Yes. Because he’s my first love. I care about him a lot, and I’m grateful to him.
JP fed Dalmi’s plant. The greetings on it said, “I wish you success.”
Grandma: What about Dosan as you know him now?
Dalmi: The Dosan I know now…
Note: The band “Red Velvet” was singing, “You’re my future. Future. All the time” in the background. Although I want to credit the sound engineer/director for the splendid timing, it did sound cheesy.
Dalmi: (thinking, then smiling) I’m still getting used to him.
That was her answer.
At this time, she didn’t yet know that she’d end up with him at the rooftop. He promised her to be more influential than Director and earn 10B won. She was so moved by his actions, that she kissed him.
Dalmi: (continuing) He’s like a different person at times.
That’s the good point here! Even then, she’s already splitting the two in her mind because she’s slowly seeing the differences.
Dalmi: (continuing) That makes me a little sad, but… But for some reason, those few odd moments here and there, excite me and make my heart flutter.
Now, do you get what the steaming kettle is used for?
Water is in the kettle. When you apply heat to kettle, the water in it boils. You can’t “burn” water; it isn’t flammable (lol. That’s why you put out fires with water). So instead of “burn rate,” there’s boiling point, or the temperature when the water transitions from a liquid to gas.
For me, the steaming kettle signifies the metaphorical boiling point of Dalmi. It’s the moment when she realizes that a change has occurred in her feelings.
Out of habit, she pledged loyalty to her first love, the old Dosan. She had a spaced-out look when she claimed that she liked JP. It’s as if she was staring at the distant past.
That old love is similar to the water in the kettle. The boiling water evaporates the water and is transformed into steam. Likewise, her heart-fluttering moments with Dosan are gradually transforming her feelings for the “old Dosan” into feelings for the real Dosan.
Her boiling point was the moment when Dosan simultaneously fought for her and apologized for disappointing her.
To me, this scene showed his priority.
If he had been thinking of his company alone, he would have walked out a lot sooner. But he endured the meetings (first with the son, and then with father) for Dalmi. She told him that they had to suck it up because they had no money, and an ally was better than an enemy. So, the Director could insult SamSan Tech, but he crossed the line when he shamed Dalmi. Dosan wouldn’t tolerate an attack on her.
So, there you have 4 explanations of the “Burn Rate.” Mine plus Hiro90’s. You’re free to have your own.
I’ll see if I’ve time to work on Episode 8. I’m not promising anything since “Do Do Sol Sol La La Sol” is showing tomorrow.
Now I need to rewatch episode 7 with these new knowledge in mind 😀.
Again Brilliant Here was my take on it though yours was so much better.
I also noticed the incombustible bag but I didn’t link it to the burn rate 😮
The title of episode 7 is called Burn-Rate; the rate at which a start up spends money. Money is what was important as well in episode 8 for Dalmi. This was what really frustrated me this episode, Dal mi was hoping for the app to not be successful with people because she didn’t get investors, she was worried about the cost of it rather than what it meant when people started to download it. She got distracted twice in both episodes by the money (Jipyeong is the person who caused and led to these distractions each time, In Jae also was part of this) The thing is this is how we’re seeing how greed and the ambitious environment of wanting to be a CEO are starting to affect Dalmi and Dosan. Especially Dalmi as she has to think logically as a businesswoman, but she’s forgetting that she used to believe in ‘miracles’ and ‘luck’ happening for her. Fate as I mentioned before, is making Dosan and Dalmi work together to each achieve their dreams, but they’re both slowly getting taken down by reality. Faith is not enough anymore when it comes to logistics. This is why I think Jipyeong is still not the one for Dalmi. He breaks and finds every stopping point to her dreams rather than catalyse or inspire her to go for them.
Don’t get me wrong he helped this episode because of her, he likes her. Still, when it comes to the company apart from helping with logistics (like the stepfather issue and recording) he doesn’t push for the company’s success, he puts them down every single time. He refuses to invest in them because they are not successful or logically right (his lack of faith is why Fate doesn’t want him with Dalmi because he’d make her give up if Dosan isn’t by her side; this is not me being biased).
He only focuses on the surface (like Dalmi mentioned to Injae things on the surface may seem right, but it isn’t on the inside like the spoiled fruits she used to give Dalmi) Jipyeong fails to look deeper and notice the authenticity of someone at first because he’s not that open-minded and he doesn’t trust easily. This is a good thing in reality as a businessman, but when someone is trying to reach out and make their dreams a reality, he is like the opposite of what is needed to do that, because of his pessimism. Don’t know if this is making sense but anyway Dosan may not be as realistic but like I said he’s someone who is determined and diligent to make his dreams a reality. He may not know-how, or why, but that’s where Fate comes in. And that what keeps on pushing Dalmi to do things against Jipyeong’s wishes or she uses what Jipyeong tells her (like the recording), but she comes up with how to use it on her own (like she used it to get the investors for the app).
It’s excellent that Jipyeong is logical and smart but with a show that is basically always repeating to not go for what looks only good/idealistic on the surface but to search for authenticity and that has a heart (sail without a direction) it’s not working in his favour. That’s why despite Dalmi getting distracted by money/logistics or following Jipyeong’s advice, she ends up doing the opposite or finding a way for it to work for her and this is due to again Dosan’s presence in her life. Dosan’s idea for the app was more heartwarming and more genuine (connected to her grandmother), so she chose it over the other choices after realising it mattered more to people than something that makes money, she also discovered how to help them get investors (something that she was trying to do all episode) because of seeing Dosan kneel and look defeated.
THE INCOMBUSTIBLE BAG OF JIPYEONG:
First we all know the plant signifies Dalmi, yes Jipyeong has decided to nurture and take care of her more instead of running away from her. Cute right? We also saw Dalmi give him the incombustible bag a bag that cannot be destroyed. Obviously, on the surface, this points to his feelings and their bond (from when they were kids) This clue points to Jipyeong being endgame, not going to lie. But then if you look closely in episode 8 the bag is returned back to Dalmi and is used to hold her shoes she stepped in shit in. So now its a bag full of shit that is going to get thrown away. It served no purpose, and it didn’t matter. Its good to see that these two can’t escape what they have because of the letters, I won’t deny it, they both cared and had a bond that is great and important, and the letters signify that, but as I keep on saying the letters are in the past, they serve no purpose anymore to Dalmi right now. Jipyeong’s purpose that he’s good at so far with Dalmi is being a mentor, he’s good at offering advice, good at logistics, good at ensuring she’s okay, but when he tries to cross that line, he’s not good at it, he’s not as sufficient as a companion as Dosan is to her, he’s not as genuine/authentic to her (this will get a lot of different opinions), he’s not as inspirational or helpful to her dreams right now. He may change and become more useful and essential as a lover/companion later on. But right now those letters don’t appear to serve a purpose, just like the incombustible bag in this episode.
This is what I wrote in my blog concerning these two things but I love the way you pick on the words and you completely break them down with as much evidence as possible. I also noticed the titles being clues for what Dalmi’s heart is leaning towards to and for the overall plot building. I’m just not as observant as you lol. Another great post. If you want to read the rest of the essay let me know 🙂
🙂 To be fair, BeingWritten,
1. he texted Dalmi to record the meeting. Neither Dalmi nor Dosan would have thought of that. It was the “back-up” that Dalmi needed, although JP didn’t tell her to use it for blackmail. lol.
2. in Episode 3, entitled “Angel,” I’m inclined to think that JP was one of the angels being referred to there.
If SandBox is like a half-way place or a “purgatory” of sorts, where the start-uppers have a vision of heaven if they succeed, without fear of going to hell if they make a mistake, then I see Director Yoon as THE god of this Sand Box. And she’s a benevolent god.
The term “Angel” has a double meaning (triple actually but I’ll stick to two for now bec I’m a hurry)
One is the business term. He’s an angel investor.
Two is the religious meaning. He’s the two-winged celestial being who applied to god/Director Yoon to guide the team.
Remember their conversation:
Director: Are you launching a start-up?
JP: No, that’s not why I’m here.
Director: Then, is there an applicant you’re interested in?
JP: Welll. May I apply to be the mentor for the 12th Residency Program?
Director: What’s gotten into you? You said no when I kept pestering you to do it.
JP: There’s a company I’m interested in.
Director: Is that right? Which team?
JP: It’s better that you don’t know.
Director: Why is that?
JP: Because they won’t get in. I’m hoping they won’t.
THERE! Call me stupid, but the impression I got here is that he’s going to sabotage the team. Was he going in as a mentor or a saboteur? Was he an angel or a devil? But even the devil was an angel, right? A fallen angel. But hey, I was willing to give him a chance since, as Dosan said, they had the same goal.
Director: Then, they wouldn’t need a mentor.
JP: Still. They might luck out and get in. (laughing) Let’s go.
Director: Tell me which team it is.
JP: (laughing)
Later in the episode, Dosan explained why he wanted to work with Han JiPyeong, the investor. He used the whiteboard. He said they had the same objective. Both Chulsan and Youngsan thought he was being stupid because JP clearly didn’t share their goal.
But Dosan insisted.
Dosan: Samsan Tech’s success.
Chulsan: Jeez, that fool! That’s our goal, not his!
And he’s 100% right! We just saw JP declaring that he was hoping they wouldn’t get in SandBox.
Dosan: No. He has the same goal as we do.
Youngsan: On what grounds?
Dosan: I say that because we must succeed to make sure Dalmi won’t be disappointed. And I know that he doesn’t want to disappoint Dalmi, just like me.
Youngsan: Like you?
Dosan: Yes.
Then intermission to dinner between Grandma and JP.
Dosan: Samsan Tech. Seo Dalmi, Han Jipyeong, and Nam Dosan.
Chulsan: Am I the only one who doesn’t get it? As for Han JP. Sure it seems like he and Seo Dalmi go back a long way. But what about you?
Dosan: Me?
Chulsan: Why do you care whether she’s disappointed? It makes no sense.
Dosan: You’re right. Still I don’t want to disappoint her.
Youngsan: Dosan. Do you like… that woman Seo Dalmi… Do you like her?
Dosan: Yes.
Meanwhile, JP said no.
3. in Ep 6, “Key Man,” he actively lobbied that Dalmi appointed herself as the key man of the team, not Dosan. He made a very good point that they needed one person with the majority shares. But he tried to persuade Dalmi to go against what she thought was right (good person vs good CEO argument) to usurp the position which belonged rightfully to Dosan.
4. in Ep 7, “Burn Rate,” he again made an excellent point. The investors were all about money. That’s a fact.
Both he and Injae made Dalmi aware of the importance of money to start-ups. However, in the process of “educating her,” they also made her insecure of her abilities. Call their “instruction” a double-edged sword, then. One side of the sword helped Dalmi, but the other side of the sword harmed her.
Dosan was willing to go with Dalmi’s idea of chasing money, but he was more worried about the effect of teaming up with Morning Group on Dalmi, considering their family history. That was an excellent point.
Then, Mr. Han gave her the list of companies “to beg to,” and instructed her that some of those companies on the list would be needed companies like Samsan Tech to clean up their image. I thought that was a good suggestion. However, by suggesting that she approached those “dubious” companies, WITHOUT giving her further GUIDANCE on how this partnership with those dubious companies could impact the morale of Samsan Tech, he failed in his duty as a mentor. So, sure, texting her to record their conversation was great, but I see this as a delayed action. Or a corrective action; he should have warned her that teaming up with dubious CEOs like Director Won might not serve the best interest of their company.
Note too: he heard what Director Won said in the meeting.
So to me, he THREW her in the path of Morning Group, just like InJae did. 🙂 The difference between him and InJae was Injae was definitely acting out of spite.
But JP? He can’t make up his mind whether he wants to help or sabotage the team. Since he lies so much to himself, he can’t remember what the truth is.
Interestingly, he could be both the sabotage or the helper. This also is another reason why he is also still very behind on the race to be the end game. Because on the helper side, it’s only for Dalmi, that’s the only person he cares about helping whenever he tries to, because he likes her despite not knowing. On the sabotaging part is his spite for Dosan, him always underestimating Dosan and never thinking he’s good enough. I was saying earlier the scrunchie scene feels to me like foreshadowing the same way I see the sweets in episode 5? (the sweets Dosan took from him and said was his.) I think they both represent Dalmi, the first one JP unknowingly interfered and tried to open the sweet without thinking about it, but Dosan stopped him and took it back. The scrunchie is different it’s his spite that causes him to lose it, (Dalmi) his jealousy/pettiness is the reason why instead of giving it to Dalmi he proceeded to go straight to Dosan because of spite, but he didn’t get the reaction he wanted. Dosan ended up with the scrunchie in the end. If the scrunchie is a symbolic item for Dalmi, then I see it as foreshadowing that JP still has a long way to go to overcome pettiness/jealousy or underestimating Dosan as a rival. If he doesn’t mature during the time, she and Dosan separate then his spite will end up causing him to lose her once more, and she’ll return to Dosan. Sorry not sure if I’m explaining my thoughts properly. JPs indecisiveness like the pessimism is also another reason why he’s not the right person for Dalmi then because you can’t have someone who is both a saboteur and a helper, it’s not what she needs to make her dreams come true in my opinion.
For the start-up part and not the relationship, both Do-San and Dal-Mi are dreamers. Do-San is a genius and Dal-Mi is the optimistic and hardworking kind. But if the rate of Start-up’s failure is around 90% (20% during the first year), it’s not because the workers weren’t smart or hardworking enough but because of lack of good decisions as CEO or issues between the members. Ji-Pyeong doesn’t doubt of Do-San’s talent as a developper but see no talent in business. And it’s right, Do-San failed Sandbox’s test to be a CEO. If he’s always the pessimistic guy, it’s because he knows what they will face and what they will have to overcome. But he still helps them : he helped Dal-Mi by answering about the CEO’s job, then the 461 questions (why did she buy all these books :p), he made a list of potential investors, he gave her the advice to record the conversation. He’s grumpy but he represents the harsh reality of start-ups. I really like the part of the evolution of a start-up. It’s pretty interesting.
FYI My daughter decided to start watching (I haven’t had the time). She shed tears in Ep1 and accused me of not forewarning her. “You didn’t mention anything about it being sad?” 😂. Anyway, I think she’s watched up Ep3. At the moment she’s Team Good Boy. “He has more character (I think she means depth)”. Although she did add this disclaimer, “But DoSan is growing on me”. 😂. There you go, that’s her analysis of Ep1-3 of Start Up. ((Feels)). 😂
What happened to you nrllee? I thought you were hiding because you were on Team Good Boy or something. lol.
Have the chicks grown already? Have you culled the male chicks yet? Did you check the feather or the butt? I want the scoop from you.
Hi everyone! Long time no see!
I never thought to check what Yongsan was typing in the terminal until this post!
What I find interesting is that not only does he have a backup of their code but he was also adding NEW files from his laptop to their code repository. I’m thinking it’s either:
1. Yongsan simply continued working on his components at home using his personal laptop. He had worked on some new files so he committed them. Nothing too sinister here.
2. Yongsan’s adding new files with bugs to the code. However, this is very easy to track with the software they use. Dosan can revert the code back to an earlier version without breaking a sweat.
In the first one scenario, if Yongsan’s laptop gets compromised then they’ll have to deal with a serious data breach. Someone (the person who wants revenge) might steal his personal laptop in the future, and easily gain access to all of Samsan Tech’s code.
@packmule3 I have been homesteading 😂. The chicks have hatched and I am building structures to house them. I still have to build the coop and run. Have been researching and planning everything chicken related hence my hiatus. Chick watching has replaced KDrama for now. 8 out of 10 eggs hatched. I don’t vent sex so I don’t know the ratio of boys and girls. I am hoping to have at least 4 girls because I can’t keep roosters where I live. Council ordinances limit me to 5 hens. I usually wait till they are about 5-6 weeks old when their combs and wattles develop to try to differentiate the boys/girls.
https://i.ibb.co/mch6bRK/1-CD4-EB69-375-C-4-D94-920-A-76-C332-DBF291.jpg
There’s one chick I named Ugly. Guess which one it is? It’s the runt. Hatched all sticky and never fully fluffed up. It is the loudest chick of the lot.
Thanks, parker!!
I only half agree with Sayaris that JP doesn’t doubt DS’ talent as a developer but see no talent in business. I think JP doesn’t really have relevant experience to assess DS’ potential compared to Alex. JP sees no obvious potentials. In that he is how he always invested – taking little risks & betting on sure wins. Alex clearly had more experience in spotting less obvious opportunities. Bigger risk bigger rewards, kind of what a lot of startups are about.
As for DS failing the Sand Box CEO test, I don’t think that’s conclusive that he has no potential to be a capable CEO. The test is about trends. Startups can also succeed by finding lucrative niches that the mainstream trends ignore. My husband has worked with a few tech start ups. They were all dealing with enterprise operations. None of them would shown up as mainstream trends. I would agree though that at this point DS is too inexperienced to be able to even spot these niche opportunities. But experience can be gained by working for a company like 2STO. Also, I’d agree it’s not entirely a bad thing for him to relinguish the position of CEO as long as he’s a major shareholder. He built up the company & created the core of their offering. The reward of ownership shouldn’t be stolen from him. But it make sense that he delegate the CEO responsibility to someone suitable so he can focus on what he loves & does best. Too often people get promoted into roles of incompetence because society & the business world value managers more than those who actually do the work. So people thinks they can only move up the ladder by becoming the manager. But good managers require different skills than those who produce. It’s sad to see talents wasted trying to chase status & wealth. Given that SST boys chose DM because she want to be recruited whereas IJ want to recruit them, it’s only right that DM gave DS the lion’s share of ownership. Otherwise she would be a lesser IJ.
As for JP’s mentorship – well he volunteer for the job so he’s just doing his job by helping. He should be doing it more consistently though considering the team’s lack of experience. I don’t consider that as going above & beyond. Those 461 questions could have been answered by any other good mentors who if they don’t have the time to answes all 461 could have pointed DM to trusted educational sources. I see his effort here as having benefits for himself as well – he gets to show off & exert more influence over DM in the love triangle. So not entirely selfless altruism.
Also, his list of CSR investors while good is not very creative. For non-profit startups shouldn’t he have suggested grants, partnering with advocacy groups or medical orgs, crowdfunding & small donations as well? Feels like he is limited by his rather corporate investor perspective & not agile enough for the innovatinve startup world.
It shouldn’t be funny but unfortunately it is unintentionally funny.
The grandmother is unable to see her digital lock, so she has a conventional lock installed. Then LF comes to her and gives her the visually impaired app and installs it on her smartphone. Problem: launching the application on the smartphone is even more complicated than finding the keys on a digital lock!!! There is a bug in the process… ^^