The Open Threads are here:
Part 1: Our Beloved Summer, part 1
Part 2: Our Beloved Summer, part 2
There were reasons I didn’t read the Open Threads or join in the discussion. I wasn’t snubbing you all. 😊 I only wanted to make my own first impressions and avoid creating an echo chamber.
So here I go. I’ll limit myself to 6 points because I want to finish “Bugasal.”
1. “I Know What You Did Last Summer” or IKWYDLS
I like it when the writer (or director) takes the time to put a title to the episode. The title tells us what to expect in this episode, what the focal point will be, and what the characters’ mindset are. I treat the title as a jumping-off point. It helps us viewers optimize our understanding of the show.
However, in the case of this drama, the title can be a bit confusing because the viewers don’t know which IKWYDLS the title is referring to.
You see, there are four versions of IKWYDLS.
a. There’s the book version which was written in 1973.
b. The original movie made in 1997. The movie became a franchise.
The book and the original movie had the same premise. Four teenagers accidentally killed an individual in a car accident, and a year later, somebody was out to punish them. But the villain in book and movie was different.
Spoiler alert! In the book, it was the older brother of the dead seeking revenge. In the movie, the “roadkill” turned out to be alive and he became a serial murderer.
c. The third version is a new series (2021) out on Amazon Prime. Again, same premise: car accident, dead person. But the villain is different.
Spoiler alert! I read it was the twin.
These three versions had these elements in common:
a death that was covered up,
a passage of time that allowed the anger and sense of injustice to fester,
and a retribution or vengeance for the wrongful death.
Okay, let’s look at the fourth version of the IKQYDSS.
d. The fourth version is entirely different from the book and its adaptations, but if you ask me, I say that this title of this episode actually refers to this one.
It’s a hit song by Camila Cabello and Shawn Mendes, released in 2015.
In an interview, Ms. Cabello said that the song is:
“…about finding out that somebody had been cheating on you, and the song is that moment right before you confront that person where you both know what’s next, but it’s killing the both of you.”
Source: Rolling Stone
According to the lyrics, the girl cheated but was reluctant to fess up. She didn’t know that the guy was already aware of her cheating, and it was tearing him apart. Despite it, he couldn’t let go of her and was making excuses for her, saying that she didn’t mean it.
Go ahead and watch the music video. And tell me what you think….
For me, the key points in this music video are:
a. the changing weather (signifying the passage of time) and
b. the stationary walk.
Throughout the video, the couple were walking toward each other but they never reached their destination. They were as far apart in the ending as they were in the beginning. To me, they were stuck in place, as if there was a divide between them that they can’t cross over. Whatever they do, the distance separating them remained unchanged.
And I think that’s going to be the theme of this drama.
The couple Woong and YeonSu are stuck in place. Although both will try to get closer to each other and reconcile, something happened during “that beloved summer” that’ll hold them back from getting together again, even five years later.
Note: I’m not saying that an actual cheating took place. The “cheating” could be a symbolic one, like a lie, deception, or dishonesty. Whatever it is, it’s a big enough impasse that they don’t know how to overcome even five years later.
2. The Math class
This reminds me of the Math lessons in “The King: Eternal Monarch.” Bear with me, okay? Bitches are good in math, too.
In the opening scene, immediately after the hero bowed in greeting to the audience, we’re instantly transported to his Calculus class. He’s yawning.
Calculus teacher: As limit x approaches one, you can find the limiting value. So we can think about the case when it’s smaller than one, and when it’s bigger than one. Understand?
lol. I understand that Calculus can be boring to some. But I think this teacher’s lecture isn’t an ordinary math lesson. I think it’s a hint and a foreshadowing.
Calculus teacher: When it’s smaller than one…(Ung receives instruction from the director)… For this case, it goes down like this. So the answer is… (Yeonsoo orders him to look front)…Should we look at the next one? The limiting value of this is one…(they start talking)… The limiting value of this is one as well. The limiting values of these are the same. (Ung thinks that she’s an annoying brat)… Let’s end it here.
Now, did you see what just happened?
The Calculus lecture is about limits.
She was telling the students to pick any number LESS than 1 that gets closer and closer to 1 (e.g., 0.9, 0.99, 0.999 and 0.9999). She also told them to pick any number GREATER than 1 that gets closer and closer to 1 (e.g., 1.01, 1.01, 1.001, 1.0001).
If the students plugged these numbers onto the equation (we didn’t see the equation on the board), the students would discover that the “limit” or boundary or maximum value was 1.
Let’s just say that her equation is x2or x squared.
0.9 squared is 0.81
0.99 squared is .9801
0.999 squared is .998001
Do you see it? Although the numbers are getting closer to 1, they can’t equal to 1.
It’s true for the opposite side, the numbers greater than 1.
1.1 squared is 1.21
1.01 squared is 1.0201
1.001 squared is 1.002001
1.0001 squared is 1.00020001
The numbers are also getting closer to 1 but they can’t equal to 1.
Now, what’s the relevance of this math?
I say it’s a metaphor of their relationship.
lol.
Ung represents the numbers less than 1 (because he’s the lazy one, lol). Yeonsu is similar to the numbers over 1 (because she’s the overachiever).
Whatever they do – even if they exert double the effort – they can never attain oneness, unity, or harmony in their relationship.
Sure, they can attempt to get closer to each other, but they’ll always reach their LIMITS with the other person.
Lol. This is the mathematical analogy to the music video of Camila Cabello and Shawn Mendez’s IKWYDLS. The song was easier to explain. 🙂
3. Kim JiUng, the “friend”
I’m telling you right now. I’m keeping an eye on this dude.
The story of their opening kindergarten day wasn’t presented for nothing.
He resented that Ung was the apple of his parents’ eyes. Ung’s parents made a big fuss on the first day of school. Both were there to take pictures and commemorate the moment. They dressed Ung up in smart clothes: a tailored overcoat and a turtleneck. His lunchbag had his name “Choi Ung” stitched on it. And Choi Ung was a confident child, introducing himself and offering a handshake.
In contrast, JiUng had no parents to send him off. He was wearing regular down coat. His backpack simply had his named written in marker.
Ha! “I’m not going to tell you.” I think these words are ominous. He wouldn’t be able to tell Ung straight to his face how much he envied him.
I do believed that he envied Ung all these years, That’s why now in their late 20s, he’s basking in the fact that he’s usurped Ung’s spot in his parents’ affection.
Ung: (telling his dad) I hope you’re not forgetting that I’m your son!
Dad: (coming over to squeeze JiUng’s face) Have two bowls, alright?
JU: Okay.
Ung: It seems like you’ll be the one inheriting the restaurant later. My parents are acting like you’re their son these days.
JU: But think about it. I act more like their son than you.
Ung: Jeez. Why do you keep lurking around here and threatening my status?
JU: I finally got a short vacation after finishing a program. I’ll be busy again when I start my next project. I should have fun before then.
And then he spilled the beans to get Ung in trouble. There was a sibling rivalry between the two men although they weren’t siblings.
To me, what JiUng said about love and hate also applied to him.
JU: The thing about love and hate is that there’s a very thin line between them. They’re two sides of the same coin.
He must love Ung or he wouldn’t have stayed beside him after all these years. But it wouldn’t be a shocker if underneath that brotherhood and camaraderie, he hated Ung’s guts, too.
That’s why there’s a bit of passive-aggressiveness in his interactions with Ung. Like tattling on Ung’s parents,
trash-talking,
and shaking the soda cans before handing them out.
He would be the type to envy and resent that Ung had everything easy. Ung was endowed with many things with little effort on his part. He had a loving family. He had a successful tv show career when he was a teen, and the documentary was still the talk of the town after 10 years. He dated the smartest girl in class, despite being the dumbest kid. He has a successful career where he’s paid a whole lot more to afford a nice house of his own. He was his own boss. He was doing what he liked without working to the bone.
Given his character, I wouldn’t be surprised if after all these years, he’d been secretly in love with the same girl as Ung. Hence, his reluctance to do the documentary.
4. Choi Ung’s sketches
Go Oh is Ung’s pseudonym. There must be an interesting backstory to this because taking on a different name is a big decision for any artist or writer.
At Yeonsu’s project presentation, she had this to say about Go-Oh’s work. She sounded like she genuinely admired him.
These are the works of Go-Oh, the most popular illustrator these days. Go-Oh is known for drawing detailed and trendy pieces based on buildings. And recently, Go-Oh received attention as the idol singer NJ bought one of them. Through this collaboration, we’ll host a live drawing show for the opening ceremony….The artist’s image matches the unique and innovative goods that Soen Shop aims to provide its customers. Go-Oh already has a large fanbase because of his unique drawings and his sincere attitude toward art. If we promote the shop with his drawing on the exterior wall, I’m sure it will make Soen Shop the hottest place to visit.
I wouldn’t be surprised if she knew Go-Oh’s real identity. I thought we were given hints.
a. Back in high school, when he sat beside her, he unfurled a big pouch of colored pencils. He might have liked drawing even back then.
b. If she dated him for five years, she would’ve known about his hobby. Mastery in drawing just doesn’t happen overnight. He would’ve started early.
c. While waiting for the pop star, he drew on a napkin. I could imagine him doodling on similar napkins while he and YeonSu were out on dates or just passing time.
d. She looked pensive as she shifted through Go-Oh’s sketches on the internet. Some of his drawings would have been familiar to her if they took trips together while they were dating or when she visited his family’s house and restaurant.
Like the Seoul Hardware Store. He biked past that place on his way home from his father’s restaurant. She would have seen this had she spent time in Ung’s family restaurant.
e. She read the article on him. When he was asked why he didn’t include people in his sketches, he replied, “I love things that don’t change but people change or disappear over time. That’s why there’s no people nor time in my works.” This kind of insight about his art wasn’t something he could have thought of in the spur of the moment. He would’ve pondered about this for a long time to make it his philosophy in life.
I wonder if she was the reason he said this.
5. The couple sweatshirt
Yes. I laughed at the epilogue when Ung and Yeonsu were shown wearing a couple sweatshirt and she removed it to throw it at him. I thought it was funny because his manager threw the yellow sweatshirt at his face again when he was rummaging through his wardrobe.
That yellow sweatshirt must be cursed.
Manager: What? Why are there two of them?
Ung: Hey! That’s…
Manager: It’s tacky. (throwing it at him) What the heck? Is that a matching couple’s shirt? What’s with the long face?
Ung: Shut up.
Manager: You wore matching t-shirts? (Ung continues to fold it in silence) How cute.
I found his choice of clothes on his cancelled date interesting, too. His roommate went through the trouble of sorting out his clothes, but he still ended up a “fashion-killer” in those pants.
His clothes told me that he didn’t really care about impressing this pop star.
In a way, Yeonsu and her client, the Soen Shop boss, were wearing a couple outfit too.
Yeonsu: Seems like you’re eating alone. Mind if I join you?
Boss: Wouldn’t it be awkward since we’re wearing the same shirt?
He meant that people might think that they were a couple.
Yeonsu: I think it’ll be weird to eat separately with the same shirt on. I’ll pay for my own food so just let me sit here.
She soon discovered that inviting herself over was a disaster because they had nothing to talk about. They were so similar that they bore each other. She returned the conversation back to the shirt.
Yeonsu: That shirt. How much was it? I used a discount coupon and got it really cheap. I’d be upset if I paid more for it.
Boss: I paid full price for it.
Yeonsu: That’s good to hear. But isn’t it kind of amazing? Wearing the same shirt and coming to the same place.
Boss: It’s my first time wearing the same clothes as someone else. This is still awkward.
Lol. What made their situation awkward was he couldn’t make small talk. He didn’t know how to listen to her, make connections, refer to their earlier meeting, encourage her to talk more, and show enthusiasm to engage in her mentally.
Yeonsu: You never wore matching tshirts?
Boss: I hate pathetic stuff like that.
Now, this was a reminder of what she said back when she was being interviewed for the documentary. She was asked what she hated, and she replied pointedly that she hated pathetic beings. “I hate everyone who’s pathetic.” She meant Ung, of course.
Yeonsu: (snort) I used to hate pathetic things too
Boss: But I guess you’ve done it before.
Yeonsu: Well, you know…sometimes you become someone else.
Boss: Is that so?
Yeonsu: I knew it. I really am more human than you.
Boss: That again?
Yeonsu: I used to be so childish. (then she falls silence)
Meaning, she was being childish before when she professed disdain for things like couple shirts. She’s changed since then. She’s become more “human.” Now, she’s admitting that wearing couple shirts might not be so foolish or deplorable after all.
6. So, what DID they do last summer?
I suspect it was revealed in the epilogue. They broke up as they were about to enter the Magic Castle, the symbolic happily-ever-after place. And it became a freaking horror show for them.
Although it wasn’t a slasher film like IKWYDLS, the outcome was just as bloody and traumatic for them.
JiUng: They were together for about five years
Producer: They actually dated?
JiUng: And they broke up pretty badly. They hurt each other so much that they’ll probably never see each other again.
See you in the next episode. 🙂
Hi @plml3, thanks for your thoughts. I’m glad you’re watching this exploration into complicated love-hate relationships.
LOL the Calculus metaphor. It never occurred to me it might be a metaphor. In a sense it’s sad if they can never reach one, be one with each other, be united for the length of their lives. Coming to a point where both can say that they disagree, but understand each other, and agree to complement each other, rather than to compete, would be such a nice conclusion. They may really never end up as a couple but friends.
I like the metaphor of breaking up outside Magic Castle (can one enter it? I thought there was nothing inside but a ride, in other words, it’s not a ‘real’ castle). It was an illusory castle. It symbolised entering into a happy-ever-after fantasy. Even the cheerful yellow shirts they wore represented something illusory … they were not of like mind, therefore it was apt that YS took her shirt off.
Of all places to choose to break up, YS chose the ‘happiest place on earth’. I felt that the saddest thing was the happy face balloon that CU still held on to after the breakup. This was the 4th breakup, that happened for no apparent reason that CU could see. There was to be at least one more.
He held on to YS’s shirt, put on a ‘happy face’ and returned to YS, but he could not hold on to her or retain his happy face after the 5th breakup. It is still perhaps a fantasy, if these two characters think they can be friends, soul mates or lovers as they are. It will be a treat to see if they can navigate any relationship, at any depth, with each other.
We see by Episode 9, that YS had agreed gamely to be CU’s friend. Taking liberties as some friends do, she had also gamely helped herself to his clothes, and taken back the yellow shirt. Coming back to him to his home (his home is his castle!), wearing the yellow shirt again, and spending a day there (where before they’d not even entered the castle), YS had unknowingly taken the steps that reversed their 4th breakup.
However, these might not be enough, because there was the worst, the 5th breakup, to surmount.
I agree that the love-hate and ambivalence of relationships also pertains to CU and Ji Ung. They are ‘brothers’ and rivals at the same time. It’s interesting that in areas CU sucked, JU excelled, especially when it came to getting on with senior folks. JU is much beloved by YS’s Grandma and CU’s parents. It’s perhaps compensation – as if he worked hard to earn their regard – because he receive little attention from his own Mother. By contrast, CU who never had to try hard to gain success, continues to appear to the seniors as a never-do-well bum.
While it is good to live without feeling that one’s life has to meet the approval of others (as reflected in NJ’s life), CU probably takes it too far in not bothering at all, when he should stand up to prove himself (in the case of countering the plagiarism rumours, for instance) or to allay the worries of his parents.
I did wonder what the Show wanted to say, by YS’s having the same model car and the same shirt as Jang. She’s likened to him from the beginning by her colleagues, who laud her for holding her own against a fellow ‘sociopath’. She’s even paired up with Jang, as being the most likely ‘couple’, since Jang took an interest in her work. However, by the end of the Soen store opening ceremony, YS is shown to be unlike Jang. Her indifference and lack of empathy was just a front, to hide her vulnerabilities. In essence, she was not like Jang at all regardless of the superficial similarities. Unlike Jang, her years of putting on the act of toughness has taken its toll on her, so that YS has lost the joy that used to shine through in the high school documentary.
Calculus!! Thanks for pointing it out! It somewhat foreshadows the state of their relationship isn’t it? Even so, would we come to a conclusion that one do not have to be the same to live harmoniously in a relationship. But it also shows that they will not be always agreeing with one another. I wonder if they take away that wall to their heart, they will form a better connection and walk with each other. Both are not fully expressing their heart’s real feelings. At first I thought it was just YS but then CU is no different, except when he blames her.
Sometimes the titles of the episodes gives me a sense of foreboding as some of the movies do not have happy ever after endings and the ML & FL do not end up together. But I like the references because there are so many layers to it. The stories also reference the other characters in the story and their relationships to one another.
Here’s the link to the lyrics of the song ‘I Know What You Did Last Summer.’
https://www.google.com/search?q=lyrics+i+know+what+you+did+last+summer&oq=lyrics+i+know+what+you+did+last+summer&aqs=chrome..69i57.10616j0j1&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
“Source: Musixmatch
Songwriters: Bill Withers / Noel Zancanella / Ido Zmishlany / Shawn Mendes / Camila Cabello
I Know What You Did Last Summer lyrics © Music Of Liberal Arts …”
This inability to ever reconcile properly, as a couple, is certainly what we see, up to Episode 10. At the most, they may have managed to reconcile in terms of politeness, as old ‘more-than-acquaintances’.
Selected lyrics:
“It’s tearing me apart
She’s slipping away (I’m slipping away)
Am I just hanging on to all the words she used to say?
The pictures on her phone
She’s not coming home (I’m not coming home)”
CU does seem to be hung up on what they had said. He said he’d never accept her, in fact he’d chase her away as if she were a demon, should she break up with him. He had kept his word. She too was still holding on to the accusations of the past, acknowledging that the breakup was her fault. She keeps saying, ‘Is it me again? Is it my fault?’ Like the song, it’s the girl who acknowledges that she’s the one to blame.
“I know what you did last summer (ah-ah)
Just lied to me, “There’s no other” (he-ey)
I know what you did last summer
Tell me where you’ve been”
We know that both of them lie, but YS more so than CU. She has so much to hide, so much pride to protect, it will kill all her love relationships.
“I know, I know, I know, I know
I know, I know, I know (ah-ah, ah-ah)
I didn’t mean it, no, I didn’t mean it, mean it, no (Ah-ah, he-ey)
Can’t seem to let you go, can’t seem to hold you close
I know”
(From Episode 9-10) CU seems to know more than he lets on. For now he knows he does not want to continue without YS in his life. He knows that dating would be the death of him if she abandoned him again, therefore he will not date her, but he wants to keep her nearby. He does not seem to know that although he can’t or won’t let her go, this selfish state of affairs cannot last.
It’s frustrating that his actions speak honestly about how he feels but his words say something else. He is not honest with YS or himself about how he feels. He wants to have his cake and eat it. So the lyrics, “Can’t seem to let you go, can’t seem to hold you close” are very apt for our OTP.
Like the couple who keep walking but never get close, when CU approaches YS to get clarity, she runs away, and in Ep 9 when she comes to CU to ask for an explanation, he artfully dodges the question by speaking of friendship.
YS : “How are you acting as if nothing’s happened? Did you really have nothing to say to me this whole time? Really?”
CU : “Should I apologise, and say it was a mistake?”
YS : “What?” (Those are the words she didn’t want to hear.)
CU : “Is that what you want? But I don’t.”
YS : “Then what? Then what do you want to do?”
CU : “I’m not dating you again.” (Instead of saying what he wants, he’s saying what he does not want.)
CU’s thoughts [[Despite what happened, I can’t go on without her in my life.]]
CU : “Let’s be friends.”
YS : “What? You want us to be what?”
CU : “Friends.”
YS : “Why?”
CU : “We’ve never tried being friends before.”
CU : “Who knows? We could be good friends.”
Wishful thinking on CU’s part. If they’d had some kind of closure before, becoming friends might have been possible.
Due to the lack of closure, they never could let go. The unfinished business of their emotions held them fast to each other. No length of time or distance apart, could help these two. At the same time, their lack of honesty would always drive a wedge between them.
@Grace,
Another mathematical analogy: asymptote
They’re also “asymptotes.” Though they inch closer and closer, they still can never be together. 😂
But hey! At least they aren’t parallel lines, living side by side but fated never to meet. 🙂
Thanks for breaking down the song, @GB.
In Episode 1, Yeonsu strikes me as an anti-heroine. She’s patronizing, self-centered, petty, condescending, stuck-up, brusque, arrogant, insulting, self-entitled, difficult.
I didn’t like her from the start: when she sought Choi Ung out in the library after he beat her as Top Bookworm. The first words out of her mouth was “What’s your rank?” When she found out that he was last, she turned around and left. Her rubber slippers made trampling sound. The pleats of her skirt swung rhythmically, side to side, like arms of soldiers in a parade. Even her long straight hair looked mad from behind.
She must be feeling chagrined, enraged and humiliated, that the dumbest kid beat her, the smartest kid in class.
But I thought she was behaving like a typical insecure, hormonal teenager. 🙂
I’m hoping she’ll outgrow this immaturity.
As for Choi Ung. I guess I’m on his team. He’s cheeky, immature, but naive. At first sight, he appears to lack ambition and drive. But that can’t be true if he achieved to be an artist in five years.
Career-wise, their story seems to be a classic turtle-and-hare race. Yeonsu assumed she’d win because she’s smarter, more focused and driven than Choi Ung. It felt like a comeuppance when she had to show up at his door, presumably to ask (grovel, hopefully?) for his cooperation in her project.
I’ll watch Ep 2 tonight.
Hi @pkml3, I hope you enjoyed Episode 2.
Normally, I’d despise the kind of character that YS appeared to be in Episode 1. However, after my foray into Lovestruck where I felt the same thing and was highly critical of the FL, I was challenged to consider the reasons why she was unlikable. I applied this attitude towards YS first, instead of criticising first. It was only in Episodes 6 that more is revealed in YS’s thoughts. We see that she’s not all hard-heartedness from Episode 4 onwards. However she is definitely a flawed character.
Her nature and her upbringing seems to have skewed her into a shrew. The interesting thing is that she is actually aware that she’s at fault. She let her insecurities/fear of humiliation/her pride determine her behaviour, and she’s been miserable for it, all her life.
I enjoyed all the scenes where the leads were together, even if they were bickering or being frustrating. As for comeuppance, at least CU got to spray water and throw salt at her, and she had to take it. It was childish and petty, but he was a man of his word. Still it bothered him that he might have been too harsh.
(By the end of Episode 2 and in Episode 3) CU fights back. I like his fight back attitude, though. Ji Ung really knew how to play him so that he thought it was his idea: how to get YS to do the documentary. He was actually just doing what JU manipulated him into deciding to do. What they say during their interviews demonstrates the misconceptions that they may have had, and of course, their selective memories.
Awww I love these reviews and analyses making those who watch this drama understand how hard it must be for the writer to piece together all of these details
@Gen, true! After BOD, I can never watch a drama or movie in the same way again! In fact, I’m finding any watch hard work LOL. Sometimes my mind can’t stop analysing. 😂 🤯 😣 🤪
@Gen,
That math reference is actually an old joke. 🙂
Tragic love stories abound in math:
Asymptotes: where two approach each other but never meet
Parallel lines: the couple live side by side. Basically, friendzone
The tangent: the couple meet once and never again
The limits: up to here and no more.
Triangles: the saddest ever
Irrational numbers: what love is to many
Imaginary numbers: what love is to fangirls and their oppas
😂
LOL Imaginary numbers!! 🤣
LOL math references!
After 10episodes, we have seen both main characters do many things to reach 1 but one thing is lacking. Are they going to say it? Is there an acceptable reason not to? Although it is making me impatient, it is making it interesting.
Lol to the math and love…graphical math and love seem pretty tragic. There is no good match isn’t it. Maybe a sine and cosine graph…
Was there those references in Melancholia? I have yet to watch it.
There was also math references @BOD talked about in Extraordinary You about Sigma and adding.
Looking forward to today’s episode!!
Oh, thank you for this! I studied engineering in college but that Calculus lecture did not even register in my brain, LOL. And you are right about Kim Ji Ung having feelings for YS. 🙂
Quite a busy week for me but still made time to watch episode 11 and I did not expect the reveal on this one. Looking forward to tonight’s episode.
@Laura zZZz,
I’ve just finished Ep 2 so I could be mistaken. But my impression is this writer/director packs the theme in the opening scene. For instance, in Ep 2, it’s about “what if.”
The girl opens the episode with her “what if” conversation, — which BTW also reminds me of the if-then statements in geometry 😂 — but the boy ends the episode with his own, “what if” question in the elevator.
Her “what if” questions repeatedly pose hypothetical situations because she cannot get a straight answer from him. Lol. Another math joke analogy incoming: a straight line (or answer) is the shortest distance between two points (or lovers).
Yes. I’m glad my intuition about the friend, Ji Ung, is correct. I just watched him save the girl from the motorcycle and that scene sent my spider-sense tingling.
I’m in. Finished episode 1. It’s funny how after that fighting/bickering they dated for 5 years. 😁 That’s what the title means to me, the fact that they dated after their documentary.
I’ll read your posts after every episode. Yes, I see what you mean about the video. I’ll ignore the maths side though. 🙅🏻♀️ But the imaginary numbers was cool. 😂
Ah, there you are, @agdr03!
Great that you’re watching! While I’m writing/dictating my analyses, I can imagine that I’m talking to you. 🙂
I’m on Ep 9. I’m avoiding the Open Threads for now so I don’t see spoilers.
I like it. 😊 It’s my first time watching the main leads here. I’ll continue with episode 2. I’m just watching Nadal/Medvedev finals now in the Australian Open. I want Rafa to win his 21st title but every point is hard for him. 😩
Good luck to Rafa, but I think the Russian will win this one. 🙂
Yes, it looks like. Rafa needs a miracle now to win 3 sets. I just want him to have the 21 titles then he can retire. 😂
I should have had more faith in Rafa! 😂
What a champion! 21 Titles! 🎉🎉🎉
He did???? Oh wow! He made a comeback then.
Congratulations!!
It was an incredible match, from 2 sets down. Game time was 5 hours and 24 minutes. 💪🏼
That was worth loosing my beauty sleep. 😂
Have a great day! 🥰
😴
Since you are discussing AO final @agdr03 and @PM3 – Vamos Rafa!!! What a fighter, such heart and tenacity to turn the match around. Sweet and memorable #21.