Here are my notes.
I. Administration Bureau
A. Function
The bureau has a dual function: keep the Grid running and re-establish contact with founder/creator of Grid. But there’s an inter-office rivalry between the two teams in charge of running the Grid and locating the Grid founder.
B. Creation
The Grid was activated in 2005 to protect planet from solar winds and has been operational ever since.
The creation of the Grid was developed with advanced technology, made available to the Korean government by an individual (aka Ghost) from the future.
Contact with the Ghost ended prior to Grid’s activation.
C. Organization
One directive from the Bureau’s manual: “We do not see, hear, or speak.”
II. The Characters
A. Kim Saeha
1. Young Kim Saeha
I think he called up Mom and hid under the blanket when he was kid because he was afraid of the Ghost. Has he seen the Ghost in person? Or does he blame the Ghost for the death of his death?
But he also witnessed the activation of the Grid.
2. To him, the Ghost can kill with impunity because she can disappear. Hence his flashback while watching the news on the convenience store murderer.
It got his attention that murder suspect escaped the police, particularly the report that the police lost the suspect “right in front of their eyes.”
The image of the woman crying reminded him of the time his mother also cried.
He was ready to confront the Ghost in the abandoned dental office. He again had the flashback of his mother crying.
That’s why he couldn’t immediately see that the woman in front of him wasn’t the Ghost.
Saeha: This is easy for you, isn’t it? Because you can just disappear. Like you did before.
He just had to get it off his chest.
Saebyeok: (puts hands in pocket, nonchalantly)
Saeha: (realizing she wasn’t trying to escape) Who are you?
Saebyeok: So, it’s because of the woman, huh? Not the suspect.
She meant that Saeha was more interested in the female accomplice, than the male suspect. This is Saeha’s primary motive for searching for the Ghost. He wants to bring her to justice for killing his father.
2. He can read lips.
He was reluctant to let the police at the crime scene know that he could read lips because he didn’t want this bit of info reaching his Director. He doesn’t trust her.
3. He doesn’t own a gun.
That’s why he practiced loading it by looking it up on the video. If he sees the Ghost, he intends to kill it.
4. He can access any CCTV.
I think that’s the reason he asked if there wasn’t a camera in the backroom of the convenience store. He could investigate it on his own.
5. He hacked the Administration Bureau’s CCTV system.
He wants to know where all the files on the Ghost are kept. But to access the room, he’ll need Director Choi’s handprint.
6. He was fascinated with trash….
Not because he was a pervert or an environmentalist.
He rummages through the trash because he was looking for fingerprints to access the different floors in the building, especially the room with the Ghost records.
That’s also the reason he held her hands while she was holding the steel coffee tumbler. He wanted to get her handprint directly on the tumbler so he could retrieve it later.
Of course, his supervisor EoJin thought he witnessed Saeha bootlicking the boss.
EJ: I should be embarrassed, right? I wasn’t supposed to see you kissing up to her, right?
Saeha: (giving him the look)
🙂 I understand that. Some opinions, some comments are too absurd for a rebuttal. They’re best ignored.
B. The Director, Ms. Choi
1. Her office has glass walls.
Personally, I hate glass offices because there’s no privacy. I’d feel like a Barbie doll on display.
But the director has such an office space specifically in case the Ghost visits. The ghost can be spotted.
2. Her team was downsized.
She only has a three-person team to look for the Ghost. But back in time (1997?), she must have a full complement of staff working on the project which the Ghost had left for the scientists for the Grid.
I thought her office looked ghostly too.
3. She seems to be the Ghost’s original contact, but I wonder if she’s the only one left in the agency who can recognize her. If so, she’s indispensable to the Administration Bureau (AB).
4. She must be frustrated that her job is stymied, but she has no choice but to comply.
Director: The Special Investigation Bureau will take the convenience store murder case. And we’re…
EJ: We’re excluded? But our bureau found her.
Director: Finding people is our job. And that’s where our bureau’s job ends.
EJ: So are we supposed to just click on a mouse at our desks as always? I can put up with other teams looking down on us. But the one we’ve been looking for every day, the one we started to call the Ghost because we weren’t even sure if she really existed, we’ve finally found her. But we’re excluded?
I understand his frustration. It would have been professionally satisfying for them to see the end result, too, of their years of searching. A disgruntled employee like him could go rogue.
Director: It was so hard to find her, so we should leave it to the experts from here. Mr. Song Eojin. Have you ever carried out an investigation?
EJ: No, because you never let me.
Director: You were hired to click on a mouse to search the web at your desk. As an office worker. Not to act like a police officer.
Ouch. It means they’re just “gophers.”
Saeha: (speaking up) Then why did you share all that with us?
Director: Share what?
Saeha: You knew that we’d be excluded and that another team would take it. You knew it before they told you. If we were going to take it, we would’ve been busy since yesterday on a stakeout or investigating. But even yesterday we…
Director: Got off work on time.
Saeha: Yes.
Director: You’ll continue to do so. Don’t worry.
Here, it’s clear that she didn’t have a high opinion of her staff. She viewed Saeha as a “salaryman.” All he ever did was to watch the clock and collect a paycheck. But the Director was facing a mini-revolt from her staff.
Saeha: As you said, we’ve never investigated a case. And I’m not saying we should lead the investigation team alone. But if you really think of us as your team members, I think you should tell us what this is all about, how you recognized the Ghost just by looking at the composite sketch, and what exactly our job is. We’re not search engines, but your people.
Director: The Ghost is somewhere out there right now. She might disappear again any moment. If you have time for this, go find more traces of her. Dig up the murderer’s past. Find out why the Ghost is helping him and if there’s any connection between them. His house, hometown, and school. We need to go to all those places. We have a lot of work to do. Get back to work.
I think she was appeasing them when she allowed them to go on a field work. She told them that she’d be back by one in the afternoon. But she was barely out of the office when her phone buzzed that her office had been breached twice.
So she returned to her office and found Saeha.
My theory: I already suggested that Saeha entered her office to get her handprint off the tumblr. I’m also going to add that the Ghost entered the room. She was the second illegal trespasser. She must have whisked away Saeha’s fingerprinting equipment…just like she returned the cash envelope that Kim Manok snatched, and stole the briefcase from the assemblyman.
I think rescuing Saeha was the appointed task that Ghost had to do.
C. Ditzy Colleague
1. Wants the ghost to appear.
2. Can lipread.
3. Also spies on their Director.
4. I thought she intentionally distracted Saeha when she called his attention to the uniforms of the military paying their Director a visit.
D. Team leader, Song EoJin
1. Of all three employees in Ms. Choi’s staff, he seems to be the most clueless.
2. He dated Jung Saebyeok
He knew who Investigator Jung Saebyeok was when her name was brought up in the police precinct, but he didn’t say anything. (Camera conveniently didn’t show his face).
He was the first one to dash out of the room when the police said that Saebyeok went to check on the DNA report at the NFS (National Forensic Service).
3. He asked to be transferred from the Grid Control Team to Director Choi’s team.
EJ: I guess all you care about is going home no matter what happens.
Saeha: We need to go home to come to work the next day, Sir.
He derided Saeha for being a nine-to-five worker, but he too must have liked the regular hours since he requested the transfer. Or did he have another motivation for requesting the transfer? Saebyeok was definitely surprised.
4. He seems to resent the Other Team that manages the Grid. Whether it’s professional rivalry or something else, I don’t know.
EJ: I saw the Grid breaking again on my way back. And the Grid Control Team always acts like they’re the center of the world? But they won’t be able to do that anymore because we finally found her. Right, Ms. Choi?
Director: What about the NFS? Did you keep them quiet?
EJ: Yes, we told them to erase the analysis results from their memory. Our team finally produced actual results after almost 30 years, Ms. Choi.
He’s eager to be praised, but he’s getting ahead of himself. If his team does manage to find the Ghost, then his team has no purpose to exist. Meanwhile, the Grid Control Team will take control (duh) of the whole operations of the Grid, and be more important in the AB.
I must say though that the Other Team’s office looks more futuristic and hectic than Director Choi’s office.
E. Jung Saebyeok
1. As a teen, she was left outside the school when the solar wind threatened the school. Like Saeha, she witnessed the activation of the Grid.
I’m surprised that she’s working for the police instead of the Administrative Bureau. Usually, a major event like that would have inspired an impressionable youth to join the agency that handled the crisis.
2. She’s an investigator from Songje Station.
3. She has a forearm injury as a result of her contact with the Ghost’s traveling device or transponder.
4. She’s still mad at EoJin.
EJ: …Please cooperate.
Saebyeok: You’re not asking me to cooperate. You’re forcing me.
EJ: You must’ve heard everything. Why are you doing this?
Saebyeok: Yes. I’ve heard everything. But I don’t feel like cooperating.
She refused Saeha’s request, too.
Saebyeok: Since when did the Administration Bureau order the police around outside of their jurisdiction? You have no authority.
EJ: Yes, we do. It is under our jurisdiction. You know that.
I like how quickly Saeha sensed that EJ and Saebyeok weren’t strangers to each other. He probably wondered what EJ meant by “You know that.” If I were Saeha, I’d check to see whether Saebyeok previously worked at the AB before becoming a police investigator.
Saebyeok: How would I know? All I know is that you are no different from the Administration Bureau. Showing up after years and telling me to just do as you say?
She was getting personal here. It’s noteworthy that Saebyeok was familiar with the AB and their standard operating procedures. Unlike her supervisor at the precinct.
EJ: It’s not like I wanted to show up. Let’s just get this over with.
Saeha interrupted their quarrel and convinced her to hand over the hat and NFS report. Saebyeok pointedly surrendered the items to Saeha, not to EJ’s outstretched hand. The fact that she was still being petty meant that she hadn’t gotten over their past.
Saeha walked back to their car then remembered to ask something.
Saeha: Did you take a look at this?
Saebyeok: What if I did?
EJ approached her. With his back turned to Saeha, he spoke to her in a low voice. He obviously intended to coach her to protect her. He may or may not have feelings for her, but I like that he shielded her.
EJ: Say you didn’t. You must say no.
Saebyeok: I regret that I didn’t.
EJ turned to face and Saeha walked to the car. Inside the car, EJ began to explain about his relationship with Saebyeok but Saeha cut him off.
EJ: (sighing) Well, that investigator is…
Saeha: (interrupting him) No need.
Yes. The less said, the better. This way, they could claim ignorance. If they were being taped, they’d given nothing away.
5. She revealed her truth to Saeha anyway.
Saeha: Can I also have your business card?
Saebyeok: If you gave me yours first, we’d be exchanging cards, nicely and naturally.
Saeha: I thought you knew we don’t have business cards.
Saebyeok: Is it still like that over there?
Saeha: So you do know.
Saebyeok: From what I remember, Eojin used to work in a department that handles the Grid. Why is he looking for people now?
Saeha: Because he transferred.
Saebyeok: I’m asking why he transferred. Well…it’s none of my business though.
Saeha: If so, why don’t you ask him yourself?
Saebyeok: That’s never going to happen.
That night, he googled her to find more info about her. I know I would. 🙂 I wouldn’t be interested in her relationship with EJ, but I would like to know how they knew each other since the Administration Bureau would be their likely point of connection.
He saw that she was born on April 25, 1989. She was 16 years old when the Grid was activated 2005.
Then, in 2014, when she was 25 years old, she began working as crime scene investigator at Ilcheon Police Station. The record shows that she was working in biopsy evidence. She transferred to the Songje Police Station in 2019.
If I were Saeha, I’d be curious to know where she was working prior to 2014. If she was done with university by 21, then she must have been working for 4 years at another place (or two).
6. She seems to have great deductive skills.
a. She guessed that the Ghost was the one who took down the bathroom window.
Saeha: You said you got the accomplice’s fingerprints from her cap.
Saebyeok: When did I?
Saeha: In the report that you wrote. Were they not enough?
No. Saebyeok mentioned nothing about finding her fingerprints on the cap. She wrote that, “…After that the woman suddenly disappeared into thin air. She’s presumed to be the murderer suspect Kim Manok’s accomplice. Therefore, I’m now trying to identify her and track her whereabouts.” She found the hair and she made a composite sketch of the Ghost, but she mentioned nothing about the fingerprints from the cap.
Saebyeok: The window frames were gently placed on the floor yesterday. If the suspect tore them out to escape, they would’ve been broken or damaged.
Saeha: If his accomplice had torn them out for him…that makes sense. She even prepared a rope beforehand.
Saebyeok: How’s investigation going? (studies him) You don’t know anything.
Saeha: You must know more than I do, seeing how you said I don’t know anything.
b. She guessed that Saeha saw the Ghost.
Saebyeok: (sighing) I should’ve checked the rope first yesterday. Darn it. (spotting Saeha standing close to the edge) Get down from there.
This is funny coming from her. She was scaling the wall last night and almost fell to her death, but she was worried about Saeha falling off the roof. I hope there’s no noona-donsaeng romance brewing here.
Saeha: She disappears into thin air. DNA or fingerprints. Would these be of any help?
Saebyeok: Get down now.
Saeha: Do you think she’s really an accomplice?
Saebyeok: You know her, right? The woman I saw. You know her, don’t you?
Saeha: No.
Saebyeok: “This is easy for you, isn’t it? Because you can just disappear. Like you did before.” You said this to me earlier, mistaking me for her. She disappeared into thin air before like this time, and you saw it, didn’t you?
Saeha: No.
I don’t think he was lying. My theory is he hasn’t technically seen the Ghost since he hasn’t seen her in the flesh. But he knows of the Ghost because she killed his father.
c. She didn’t fight Saeha and EJ over the NFS DNA report. She didn’t need more information because she had the scarring on her forearm. She was carrying enough info on her own skin.
Overall, I think I’m going to like this Saebyeok’s character better than I did that female cop in “L.U.C.A.”
F. Ghost
1. She’s dying. Most likely from exposure to radiation due to her time-travel. (This is a common trope in time travel. See “Alice” and “Sisyphus”)
2. According to the forensic scientist, her DNA is a “little” off. Lol. What an understatement.
Scientist: Comparing it to bones, it’s like they are all dislocated.
Saebyeok: Is that even possible? Can she still live like that?
Scientist: No, she can’t.
Saebyeok: Are you saying it’s a dead person’s DNA?
Scientist: Well, I’m not sure. I’ve never seen anything like this before, so I’d like to do further analysis. Do you have any other DNA samples of the cap owner?
Saebyeok: I’ll look for more. Thank you.
Her DNA is “dislocated” because she’s been traveling through both time and space.
3. She has some weird moral code.
She knew beforehand that the murderer Kim Manok was going to apprehended by the police. She even carefully removed the bathroom shutter beforehand to give him an escape window (literally, lol).
But if she already had this vision, then why didn’t she prevent Kim Manok from stabbing the store worker in the first place? If she had, then the police wouldn’t be after Kim Manok.
Also, she had no foreknowledge that Kim Manok was going to pickpocket the store owner, but she took the trouble of rewinding time to undo his petty crime. Why couldn’t she have done the same thing for the store clerk. Couldn’t she have turned back time and intercepted Kim Manok from committing a bigger crime?
I don’t get why she would prevent Kim Manok from pickpocketing, but not from killing the store clerk.
As for intercepting the bribery, I’m not clear about her motive here, too.
She didn’t want Kim Manok stealing a pay envelope containing a few thousand won (perhaps because it was an honest day wage?) but she stole a briefcase of full of money (perhaps because it was a bribe). However, by stealing the briefcase, then there’s no corruption case against the Assemblyman, right? Did she or did she not want the Assemblyman charged?
4. Her time-traveling causes glitches on the Grid.
EJ reported that he saw the Grid breaking again on his way back to the office. He meant this:
My theory is the Ghost temporarily breaks up the Grid (or pauses its functioning) in order to time/space travel.
5. She binges on cakes and soda
This makes sense. People who are receiving chemo are known to crave sweets. Because the Ghost’s cells are dying from radiation, she craves – and depends on – sugar (i.e., glucose) to boost her energy.
G. Kim Manok
1. Has no family. That’s probably the reason he was triggered to kill the store clerk. He was insulted when the clerk muttered, “What an ill-bred punk. Did he grow up without parents?”
2. Has prior police case: Animal abuse
3. Was his first sighting of the Ghost was on the night that he fled from the police?
4. He occupied the dental clinic because he learned from the restaurant owner that it was vacant. He’s been living in there “a couple of months.”
H. Last, the Security Personnel
1. The previous Security guy who collected the trash has been promoted to a four-button (lol) ranking officer in the Bureau.
2. This dialogue could be foreshadowing or a red herring.
EJ: A person like him is definitely overpaid. Jeez.
Ditzy Colleague: In movies, a person like him usually turns out to be an alien or an emperor of a star that’s perished.
EJ: He could be an Oscar Winner then.
EJ meant that he seriously doubted that the man could be anybody treacherous or dangerous. If the man turned out to be actually depraved, then he did a great job acting like an ordinary fellow.
While the Ditzy Colleague’s observations do sound shallow, EJ isn’t a good judge of character himself.
Anyway, it’ll be funny if the Security Personnel/Trash Guy turns out to be the mastermind behind all this.
🌸🌸🌸🌸🌸🌸🌸🌸🌸🌸🌸🌸🌸🌸🌸🌸🌸🌸🌸🌸
That’s it for me now.
Thanks pm3! You answered my question in my mind why SH was holding her hand so tightly and the rubbish searching.
They do spend more than enough time on this security guy. A seemingly minor character that is not relevant but appears on each episode. Adding to the description he is the emperor of a star that is perished, it gives some vibe that he is the one who builds the grid. We shall wait and see 🙂
Hi @pkml3,
Thanks!
Catching you here to confirm that we’ll be continuing with our Re-Watch Party on Saturdays but 1 hour later. We’ll start on ‘W – Two Worlds’ (17 Episodes) after ‘Goblin’ since @Wenchanteur has resurfaced.
As usual you’ve made great deductive leaps. I tend to agree that the Security guy is more important. Agree on what SH is trying to do about getting the palm print of Choi.
My guess about what the lack of logic of what the Ghost is doing, is that she’s taking orders. The ‘news’ on her phone about future happenings might be curated to only include stuff that she has to take action to stop. For some reason, she was not told to prevent the killing of the convenience store owner.
Yes, now that you mention it, it’s likely that Ghost was the other person who entered Choi’s office to save SH. He was strangely crouching next to the trash bin without anything in hand. He would have been holding the inner container of the trash bin or something as he’d done before. That was the reason we were shown what he did in Choi’s office before: so that we’d know what to expect and notice what was missing.
What I do find strange, though, is how Choi would allow him to remove any trash at all. That surely can’t be in his job description! She must think it is a fetish of his.
Interesting comment about the female colleague, Jong Yi. She looked like she might have been reading lips as well, and she’s definitely spying on Choi too. It might have been that she disrupted SH’s concentration on purpose.
Notes:
About the year. Episode 1 voiceover says “We covered the entire Earth with the Grid in 2004.” Which means what we see in 2005 when the Grid was (again?) being connected is a re-doing?
The opening shots had the solar winds hitting the Earth which already had a Grid around it, but the Earth seemed to have been destroyed anyway. The Grid didn’t hold or didn’t work. We do not know if this was 2004 or a future scene.
If it was 2004, then why was the Grid being connected in 2005? Was there a loop back in time?
🙂I figured he was interested in dusting for fingerprints in Episode 1 when he hung back in the crime scene. Remember? He was about to leave when Saebyeok was handed the ramyun bowl. While she dusted it for prints, he observed her.
THAT was the only reason I could think for his showing interest in whatever she was doing. 🙂
Also, I’m careful about leaving smudges, e.g., lipstick, fingerprints, and leaving receipts of transactions. If somebody tried to clasp my hands like Sae Ha did, I’d wonder if he was trying to tap a Morse code on my hand or something. 😂
Thank you, @packmule3.
Hi, here the guy with a face of resur.
This is definitely the article I needed. So many details I couldn’t notice. I watch the episodes at the end of the day, exhausted.
If the creation of the Grid was done with technology from the future, it invalidates my hypothesis of the Grid as a time travel device. The question remains, why would someone from the future do this? It can be a simple explanation, the world of the future is ravaged, it is too late to save it. We send a terminator… uh… sorry, a ghost in the past to build the way to save the earth. But it seems that there is more to all this. Someone using time travel for other purposes. What’s the connection with the Grid? No idea.
Jung Saebyeok: why is she working for the police instead of the Bureau?!
It’s not impossible that she joins the Bureau later. In the worst case: The writer can’t put all her eggs in one basket, and a female cop was needed. Maybe a little backstory will enrich this, certainly the writer has something on her sheet. And by the way, you have a good hypothesis for that, the fact that she worked at the Bureau, but that an event forced her to quit or be fired. because of EJ?
About the scene after the car chase: It’s a pretty rich scene. I also saw it as a way to connect Jung Saebyeok and Saeha. Since I didn’t have the information about the possible relationship between her and EJ, I just took it that way. Saeha is more courteous, and she prefers to give him the files. From his point of view, this makes her sympathetic and a kind of “she prefer me”. So, we can plan a “ship”. It made sense with the rest of the episode, since they will team up together.
Ghost: the deadly time travel trope. So annoying. Even in Primers there’s that. And yet, everyone knows the solution to this problem. Just travel in a DeLorean!
Why doesn’t she prevent stabbing? Maybe her mission didn’t have that objective (we see she’s ordered). Maybe she doesn’t control the time travel device (lands where someone else wan’t). Maybe the victim’s death is necessary for the cohesion of the timeline (don’t fuck with paradoxes!). Maybe it’s a small plot hole (not to be ruled out in stories that reach too high a level of complexity).
The security man is definitely the villain! It’s like in Saw, he’s already in the room as a corpse. Here as the harmless guy who observes everything without anyone knowing, Mouuuahaha.
Something disappointing about the Bureau for you ladies….
… Where are the supermodels?! 🙂
I’m glad this kdrama only has one episode per week, because of time constraints.
@GB, yes yes, soon “W” rewatch…. I don’t know what to do, if I should prepare something. A little intro text? Some anecdotes that few people know? Introduce myself, otherwise I’ll look like a fool? Ah… no… for that it’s too late?!
@Pm3, I don’t know where you are with W. If you had finished it or not. Anyway, I hope you’ll be on the bridge. I mean… on the topic, not the Han river bridge… huh?! Oh no?! You prefer the Han river bridge? Why is that? Aaaah, yeaaahh, Kang Chul is on that bridge… I see……
If I had to summarize the kdrama in one element:
GOOSEBUMP : https://voca.ro/1muiiA45xrV2
It is also thanks to this kind of background music that the drama can be revisited without limit, always having the same adrenaline rush during plot-twists that we know yet.
Haha! @WE, you seem to be writing a script right here with me and with @pkml3. I’m the one who wants to be on the Han River bridge to see if he actually jumped. I read your script and I know we end there, therefore I am stuck with the hook or the actual cliff/bridge-hanger LOL. More later on MDL.
As for Introducing yourself… your right, it’s too late LOLOL.
You can just join us for the Rewatch and relax. We’ll be posting our comments, interpretations, questions and what we see as we watch. Just like with Start Up and Healer when you were with us. If you think any of our posts warrants a response, then by all means respond. No need to prepare anything.
As for me, I’m going to look at the W ‘original’ script and I may post bits from there.
Thanks @WE for the goosebump music for OST. I imagine action and more action with that kind of music.
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About the Grid
Sae Byeok already noted that Sae Ha was observant, could read lips and was helpful towards the police. She’s surprised to see him again, now as someone working for the AB. She knows what the AB is like, and that she’d not be able to keep her findings to herself. Either she’s worked there in the past or in her relationship with EJ, he had told her enough so that she knew, and anyway, the police must have had to hand over investigations to them in the past.
Between the two men, not only was Sae Ha more courteous, bad blood between her and EJ made her choose to give the evidence to SH.
I was thinking that SH had been baiting her now and then by speaking as if he knew that she’d know more about AB than an average person might, and that she knew EJ better than was evident. She responded to him more or less openly to confirm his guesses. Either he guessed right (great powers of deduction, like the ML in Stranger) which he tested on her, or he’d done his research and found out enough about her beforehand.
I look forward to these 2 investigating together. BUT I ask, what made him so open with her. He was willing to tell her quite a lot, whereas he’d been mostly silent with his own colleagues, and she was willing to trust him very early on. So I wondered if they too knew each other from before, but were behaving as if they were meeting for the first time. (Yes, the childhood meeting trope is possible).
I like the possible red herring of the security man. He looks so unimpressive, and the camera focuses on him enough, so that we all suspect him of being a lot more than he appears. But then our attention may have been drawn away from the real culprit.
It’s good to have a one episode a week show to chat about. I find I can’t cope these few weeks if there were more episodes to watch. 😉
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