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Thank you @pkml3 and good night!
Episode 7 Highlights.
This episode spends some time on the romance and concludes masterfully with a dramatic acceleration to give goosebumps.
Multi-contextual scene: the one in the police station. A very striking scene. The principle of which is: use the high-concept to produce additional meaning and emotion. Here in a purely visual way. The audience finds the meaning themselves. Sublime!!! A perfect example to explain what is a multi-contextual scene. If you find a better idea to name this kind of concept, throw it.
The 4 choices of romance: a scene whose final gag was invented in the drama, but not in the script! I do not know if Song Jae-Jung wrote a later version of the script to fit the 16-episode format. In any case, it is not in the version of 17 episodes that she published.
A circular mise en abime: real-world viewers (us) watch a drama. In this drama, people watch a manhwa. In the manhwa, the characters watch a book. And… this book is a book sold in the real world (us).
The two high-concept elements revealed at the end: I won’t say more, to avoid the Spoiler. A higher level of dinginess comes into play. The first time I saw this, I was screaming in the night: W! W!! W!!!! WWWWW!!!!!!!!!!!
Dear Friends, for now my Internet is back but after not having it for three weeks I am not sure it will be working tomorrow. Anyways I wanted to tell you that I am fine and very happy you are all right.
Hi @FGB, I hope you can read this. Yes, we are thinking of you and hoping that you’re fine even if your Internet is down. Thanks for leaving us word to allay worry! Please keep in touch now and then, so we know that you’re OK.
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@FGB, I am glad to know you are okay! I do hope you will be with us today!
Hello @WE and @GB Unnie,
My four choices of romance was my favorite scene along with the Police Station one!
Hi @Cleo, I like the police station scene too and I laugh every time I see the 4 choices of romance. She subconsciously wanted the hot and sexy date LOL.
@GB Unnie,
True! I laugh every single time!
Hi Cleo and GB. We enter the meat now. This episode, but even more episode 8 and 9 are crazy and high.
Im ready, split screen made. The drama will have a flashback scene at the beginning. Once i was rewatching the drama, and when coming to the end of the flashback, I had a goosebump and a tears. Could be the background music, or just because we understand that in a way, Yeon-Joo is in love with Kang Chul since she’s a child. As the drama is fast paced with cerebral content and plot-twists, it’s more difficult to get all the emotions at first time, and what make the love story good. But we get it later during rewatch.
@FGB4877 I’m glad you’ve let us know all (except internet service) is okay with you. While you’ve been away from your computer, I hope you’ve been able to enjoy reading, listening to music, and other things you enjoy.
Hi @WE and @Welmaris! I’m ready for the meaty episode. 🙂
Hello @WE and @Welmaris!
@Hi welmaris. Glad to see you in time.
The kiss scene with handcuff was also improvisation from director. I’ll need to spot scenes on script but didn’t have time to do it before.
OK Everyone, let’s start!!!
It’s now GOOOO!!
Hi all. I am also about to watch. I had to re-watch episode 6 just to remember where things were at! Looking forward to the next bit as well.
I watch the recap. ahaha. I’ll need to write one maybe. It’s in the script too. Yeah, but maybe it’s the assistant job? Idk.
Hi @salteddust!
Nice exposition with flashback to bring us up to speed.
Hi Salteddust.
Ok flashback begin. Note how the colors change during flashback. The director do so much to make all the clearest possible in this very complex script structure.
Here I go!
I’m sorry to admit I haven’t read through all the comments about Episode 6. I’ll do so today, I promise. But I need to ask if anyone addressed the question of why after two months Yeon Joo was suddenly immersed in water, both in the real world and the comic world. Was it the appearance of the hooded murderer that caused the two worlds to merge at that moment?
I just realized that the teenager Yeon Soo is the Deity from Doom At Your Service!
Here there is this piano music, with a lot of tenderness. I like this short scene. Naive schoolgirl drawing man of her dreams. So moving. No wonder I end the scene with a tear, even it’s not a sad scene.
“no, we can’t meet him”.
@Welmaris, I believe YJ says later in this episode that she gets pulled into ‘W’ whenever KC thinks of her. Even in the water, he thought of her and she suddenly found herself in the ‘W’ Han River.
Seriously.. Soo-Bong “I wont make fun of you”.
Two second later, I laugh at her drawing… that guy.
Hello @salteddusk!
@Welmaris, because Kang Chul was thinking about Yeon Joo and Yeon Joo was thinking about him too.
Poor YJ, Soo Bong laughs at her drawing. The creator wants to save her creation.
@Welmaris, anyway we will have all clue about this point during this episode and more into the next one.
Poor YJ has a bad blister on her finger. How can she continue drawing with that wound!
And so the story changes at once…KC gets saved. We see this happening in ‘W’ but did it appear in the manhwa for people to read?
It’s the way the drama work, create mystery and plot-twist, give answer later. I forgot to write about this technique “hook first, make curious, answer later”. It’s why so much situations have this kind of complex chronology. So there is always a hook or even more than one at each moment of the story.
So we now have confirmed that YJ was the original creator of KC.
Look at YJ’s smile! Never has anyone been so happy to wake up in jail!
KC also wakes up with a start.
He’s happy to see that his world has restarted from the stalled manhwa.
HI Everyone!!!
HOpe everyone is doing well. Running. behind.
Kang Chul wake up. Everybody ask him question about what he did or what he currently do.
Of course, no answer, instead he gives order. ahaha, he’s so annoying for other people.
No, he stops the police car. yeah. Just like that. Then “stop you can’t go”. He don’t care and pass the police barrage. lolol, it’s the main character of the manhwa, he can do that!!
Hi @Carolina!
First thing KC does is rush off to see YJ of course. He intercepts the bus she’s on.
@Welmaris, yes. But an attentive watcher like pm3 could guess before because there was a foreshadowing in a previous scene. 😉
@WE KC as the main character is not used to having YJ taking control, setting conditions and not answering his questions straightaway.
Hey @Carolina!
@Cleopatra. Really! I didn’t catch that it was the same actress. I will have to revisit that scene a bit later.
@GB, we feel something wrong here, he’s not really happy about the situation. In balance between happy to see Yeon-Joo, look for answers about the mystery to be alive, and be unconfortable about the situation.
All that while Yeon-Joo stupidly jokes and want to write a romantic manhwa. Yeon Joo is high in the sky here. lol!!
@salteddusk ! The first time around I didn’t notice. Now that I have watched DAYS, I got the resemblance at once!
Ugh! The blister on YJ’s finger looks nasty.
So the reset, with KC returning alive to a reanimated W, didn’t heal the scratches on his hand.
I’m trying to figure out the logic of YJ returning to the detention center in her jail clothes, rather than what she was wearing two months later.
@Hi carolina.
Now a slow scene (not of my favorite), angst, KCH … don’t answer to the bodyguard, ahah, answer to no-one. Just look at others as fake ones like him. No answer for do-yoon. Heeaaavvy SIGH.
@WE, yes YJ was so pleased with herself as the artist who saved KC, she missed how he was not pleased.
It seems that he was only in the water a while and had disappeared for only a day in ‘W’. In real time it had been 2 months.
All the music to do with him coming back to this home and knowing that it’s all just a manhwa… quite affecting.
@Welmaris,
My only guess is that she didn’t throw away her uniform when she returned to the real world and when she realized that she saved Kang Chul she wore them!
The Scene we were talking about !!!!
@Welmaris, prisoner outfit, check comments at the end of episode 6.
after the funny interrogation (send her to therapy, she’s making me mad).
Here the famous station police scene.
So it’s why KCH was uncomfortable. Annoyed about people deciding his fate.
With the feeling all was false, so in a way, even his parents, and the sadness he got since.
“born on the stiley of an alchoolic”.
All that took is Yeon Joon to say that she loves Kang Chul…
Rather than being distraught and fearful like the last time she was being held in jail, YJ is now happy.
At the moment of meeting in the prisoner transfer bus, neither YJ nor KC know that the hooded murderer has gained some autonomy. Again, I’m having trouble with the logic of his suddenly gaining powers he didn’t have before.
Amazing scene that expresses their feelings in a very detailed way.
Bravo to Lee Jong Suk and Han Hyo Joo…
AAAHHHHHHHHHHH!!!! NOW!!!
“I love you”.
Answer from Kang Chul… Makes Yeon-Joo vanishes. As we know the high-concept now, it’s because Kang Chul is moved. So it means…
“I love you too”.
Genious level. In case we didn’t understand, there is after that the 2 flashback with the fake “I love you”. Once more and I could fall (in the avion scene). The once more is now.
Long scene, so it’s envisionned with the Song in mind in the script. Of course, I will copy that here later. ^^
@Welmaris,
We are going to find out WHY the murderer became autonomous in the next episodes!
I really like the scene between OYJ and KC on the shuttle bus. All the expressiveness Lee Jong Suk is able to show with just his eyes. You can tell he thinks he has murdered her father and even if her father did not die that he had it in him to murder her father. Also, his comments right at the beginning of this episode that he wanted to create a logical end for himself rather than his life being ‘an empty shell and the result of a cartoonists pre-determined setup’. He is still caught up in that existential angst of questioning the meaning not only of his life but his world and he has to listen to OYJ nattering on about how wonderful it is that she saved him. Because of course it is; she is supremely happy that the one she loves is alive!
If you see the Behind the Scenes of the Kiss, both were feeling shy afterwards. They were also feeling that it was hot in the room…LOL
Here we get an answer. YJ has guessed the reason why she’s sucked in W world. Because KCH think of her. Now, or before in the river.
You see? Most of the time, we get all the answers in W. But it’s easy to miss some of them.
So be patient Welmaris, what you ask will have answer soon. 😉
KC is such a lonely figure standing on the street after the police shuttle has left.
Now is the next best scene! LMAO!
KCH explain the 4 choices of romance. For the last one, he makes “woo” and half remove his suit. Not from the script too. Thanks Lee Jong Suk!!
@WE,
That “woo” makes me laugh every single time…LMAO
In the episode 3 of my Ws2 script, I reuse this “4” answer to make fun of a detail missed in s1. ^^
@WE what was the detail that was missed?
Dialog with the mentor. A way to know what Kang Chul think now. This character is a lot usefull for that. But something more happen here, so there is the strange BGM. When Kang Chul say “stop to search the real criminal now”.
@Cleo, I didn’t recognise the deity in DAYS lol.
Now Mr Son says that he can’t recall anything when ‘W’ froze.
@GB Unnie,
The first time around I haven’t either!
Yes, it is like those moments were erased!
@GB, I can’t spoil. lol. You’ll see the funny line in the script when reading. 😉
I have also a lot of other scenes I made fun of, references with similitudes where I twist a previous scene. (like the first kiss scene or the line on the goya picture)
@WE what else was going on when KC spoke to the mentor and told him to stop the search for the killer?
LOL YJ looks so uncomfortable in those clothes.
“I’m maried”. “AAAAAH”. 🙂
So Yeon-Joo is first fianced and don’t know.
Now maried and didn’t know more. lol.
@GB, you get the answer next episode. ^^
Also a funny scene here, she look at his underpant. “there isn’t underpant in your world?”.
“…starting from now, your life isn’t my dad’s work. That’s finished, completely. Starting from now, think of this as a sequel that we’re making together.”
A key word here is “together.” YJ welcomes KC’s autonomy rather than fighting against it. YJ wants to team with KC, not destroy him. What they can do together is greater than what she could do alone.
“My taste is different from my dad. Murder cases, revenge, gun fights, and thrillers. I truly hate all of those kinds of things. My taste…is a sweet romance.” Not only has the genre of W changed, but KC’s purpose in life. YJ invites him to live for more than just revenge.
Will W now have a character-driven plot rather than a high-concept plot (one driven by an easy-to-grasp concept)? From YJ’s words, it seems so. We shall see if Show’s Writernim carries through with that change regarding the W webtoon. If so, we should see more emotion and more slice-of-life scenes. This is in keeping with what KC and YJ were most worried about with the previous abrupt ending of W, that the whole world and the people they loved in it would cease. It’s not the action, but the people who are most important to them.
LOL it had to be when she’s looking at KC’s underwear that he comes in to observe her! He notes she’s after number 4 romance LOL.
Heavy load of fluff next.
With the book of our real world! The sales got very high after the drama. Everybody wanted this book!
@WE I managed to borrow one of Puuung’s books. It was full of details and the ubiquitous cat.
@Welmaris, interesting thought. But the character driven slice-of-life thing is only for the small scenes that follow. lol!
We get another one next episode. And far later in episode 11.
In the end she marked so many pages of the book on the stuff she wanted to do with him.
I forgot but here we get the explanation about KCH not knowing women. He needed to study a book. So, again, an answer to the previous strange reactions and contradiction he showed about that.
Next: the INCOMPETENT bodyguard.
“sorry, I don’t use you are maried”. 🙂
Music pauses when he says that they need to do as much as they can now because they don’t know when she’d disappear again.
@GB, lol, just make me the whole book and prepare to buy the others books of that writer.
And NOW… the crazyness start again. AHHAHAHAH.
Dramatic and high BGM.
First the characters in the air.
Then Do-Yoon flashback.
@WE Stupid bodyguard LOL. The whole lot of them are useless! Should not be paid a salary.
Shakes hands… Hand half vanish. and of course…
GOOSEBUMP piano music. ahahaha this drama makes me crazy.
@WE,
The book is very interesting. I found the artist and I am looking at it myself! LMAO!
Now comes my question @WE,… why is it only the killer without even a face who gets chryons appearing in the air in ‘W’? It’s like the ‘W’ world is suddenly reading a manhwa when the killer speaks.
The killer is changing everything, because someone gave him that power…
*stupid*
@WE at least I can explain the hand disappearing because the girl is no longer essential to KC and can be erased from ‘W’. But how to explain the chryons of the killer?
The idea of characters in the air, as if it was text bubble characters in a comics book.
Flashback on Sung-Moo “he was just a plot device, he don’t exist”.
So KCH isn’t sure about what happens here. Who is it? The real criminal exist? Or is it Sung-Moo writing?
@Cleo I liked the drawings in Puuung’s books. Now we can just see them online.
@GB Unnie,
I found his website and I am contemplating to buy book 1 or a digital printable wall art print…
@GB, it’s in the script. Remember? He don’t have a face. Don’t have a mouth and can’t speak. So it’s why he can only speak with Chryions.
In the script, there is no voice over, only the chryions. But from director POW, it’s not easy for audience to have to only read something, so he added a voice-over with a dark voice.
The No Face is going to be so inexplicable since Sung Moo made him without thinking of the consequences: “There aren’t any rules”. That’s scary.
@WE there’s a strange contradictariness… Killer keeps asking where KC is and how he got back… he does not know this but he knows that KC has a new family member. So the logic of what Killer knows or does not know, what he can do or can’t do are totally thrown out the window! Anything goes!!!
@Cleo… Sung-Moo bad writing generated more than a plot-hole or an inconsistent plot device, but real problems in a manhwa world which is a reality. ^^
It’s sad that the happy, ‘dating’ time is so short. Now the show moves forward based on having to deal with an inexorable threat.
I started late so Im behind commenting.
Here are my general notes/questions:
Jail Scenes
My favorite kdrama scene, funny, romantic. Not just the kiss. Although for me it ranks second after DAYS =)
Sorry I’m on shallow Island here but it’s fun to look for those good kissing scenes on dramas. And I saw the BTS on it, it was so cute.
She is married by the time she gets out of jail. =)
I dont recognize the Deity
The Culprit:
I had forgotten about the “killer” so I”m as confused as you are @welmaris on why it came to be.
As I read you all @welmaris @gb @we I get it the reason, but I still dont get how is he outside W. HOw did that happen?
@WE… yes Killer has no face/mouth but can think and speak and gather information.
The chryons make Killer look like an outsider… other characters have speech bubbles, but Killer is relegated to being similar to how the creator writes ‘The End’ or ‘To be Continued’. He’s just an outside device that does not even have a proper place in ‘W’.
@WE, we are being introduced to several aspects that will be answered in the next episodes…
@GB, I think you pointed something here. Logically, the killer don’t know where KCH is (when we know the next episode). And he don’t know why or how Kang Chul come back to life. When he say “I see you have a family member”, the killer isn’t watching in the room. The only way he can know that is from previous episodes: He can know that Kang Chul has an affair with Yeon-Joo. (kiss scene at the hospital). Just now, he can’t know that Yeon-Joo is maried with Kang Chul yet. But it won’t last long before he know that.
Also, his only way to know that Kang Chul come back to life is that the “end” goes to “to be continued”. Or we have to suppose he has some kind of special awarness due to his strange nature. But I don’t think he has that or a way to spy everything.
aww its way past the time. I have to go back to everyones comments since I saw some details that I didnt get.
It was really nice to read you all
Thank you @Cleo @GB @Welmaris @We @Salteddust
hola @FGB glad to see you are well
So the situation is like that: The killer suspect that Kang Chul is alive, because End goes to To be continued. Just in case, to verify, he call him on the phone. And find that he’s alive! So he ask a lot of questions.
My favorite line is “All this will end when we have a final fight”. It looks so well like should be the manhwa ending, and the motivation for the main killer of a story.
I did not realize that the book ‘Love is …’ was a real book until you all mentioned it. Thanks for the name of the artist. I think I will also have to buy this one (ha ha).
@Carolina, you can still continue watching and commenting. We usually hang out here for some time and come back to read as well. If you have questions, someone may come back to answer them later.
@GB, yes, now it’s a real problem for the killer to have been a plot device.
Next episode answer most of all the things. But it’s damn fast, it’s a crazy mad rush with a waterfall of events and revelations. One of my favorite episode.
The meeting of KC and YJ in the jail already show that character is rising over action in importance in W’s forward plot motion. YJ asks many questions about what KC is doing, or will do, but KC’s answer is to ask her, “What are you to me? Who are you to keep interfering with my life as you wish? With what right?” The problems with W in the past stemmed from plot devices that were used without context. KC now wants context before action.
“What are you? Are you the creator of all things?…Did you save me to play a romance game with me?” KC is angry. It wasn’t easy for him to choose death as a way to end the chaos that came with the intertwining of W and the real world. He was willing to sacrifice not only himself, but his entire world because he came to believe all was empty and false. His world, his history, his life were all at the whim of the artist.
“Why…have I been sad all this time, and what was I longing for?” I don’t think at this point even KC knows that this is the key: his emotional life was not fully within the control of the artist. KC’s current anger at YJ for resuscitating him is part of his autonomy: drawings don’t have emotions, real people do. And real people can have conflicting emotions, messy and confusing.
Love is the ultimate answer…can be a trope. We’ll see if Writernim keeps this concept fresh.
YJ says she was motivated to save KC because she sincerely loves him. This love confession worked to bring YJ back to the real world from W because it was truly felt, not just empty words used as a plot device. What brought YJ back to W? Her love was reciprocated by KC. “You were talking big, as if you will never be moved. You were moved by those petty words? And don’t reproach me. Do you think I wanted to come here? I was dragged in here, because you keep thinking of me. Back in the river too, and even now.” The sincere love between YJ and KC is a truth that exists outside the reason of either world and is a bridge between them.
No, it’s not a satanist sign or a hard-rocker one.
It’s the sign of W lovers!!!
https://i.pinimg.com/564x/d3/10/a2/d310a2407c6d3291f0b926ecf7858cd4.jpg
https://i.pinimg.com/564x/f7/9b/b8/f79bb82cb2d4e1ec1e4ec9b2710b990e.jpg
Prof Park is even able to do that, but with his whole arms! (episode 9)
🙂
Thinking of the question of why the Killer re-emerged.
In answer to KC’s question of who he is, he can only reply based on what he was created to do. “I killed your family.” So if KC had no family, the Killer would not return, but when KC had someone he cared about, like a family member, the Killer regained purpose and awareness.
Killer seems to know that KC left ‘W’ or at least that he wanted to die for a short while, before he changed his mind again, since he asked about how he came back. But Killer’s knowledge is spotty. He has a lot of questions, the most urgent to him is where KC is and where his family is, so that he can continue to do what he was created to do.
LOL @WE, 3 ‘W’s for two worlds! They are quite cute.
@Welmaris, yeah. And what make OYJ love confession sincere comes also from the first flashback scene. So it was the best to have those two scenes in the same episode. As the story is fast paced and the romance as well, it needs to go to essential. We get the idea, it’s the man she waited all her life, but more the man she wanted but was sure to never meet. Of course, the fact she created him herself is disturbing. But what she did isn’t much. Just a very basic setting.
I am really struck with this watch through on the interplay of predetermination/fate and the attempt by the individual (KC and to some lesser extent OYJ) to overcome it. The meaning of life/a life/all lives as it were. I have to think about this some more since I have not for a long time, but it is tied I think to what is the true nature of time. We do not think of time as random or as of having any random elements, but if everything is predetermined then so is time (since the Big Bang — although I think that idea has recently been modified some–); and if everything is not predetermined then maybe time is not as well. Here, I wonder if there are hints that the author/screenwriter is exploring this a bit. Since at least early in the drama, time figures so heavily. A lot of exposition in this episode by KC about whether his life has any meaning if he is just an arbitrary creation for someone else’s amusement. Aarrgh. Thoughts for another day. Saturday so need to buy groceries… Lovely watching with you all.
If YJ had selected romance option #4, as KC wished, would the W webtoon sequel he and YJ are creating become 50 Shades of Steel?
Bye @Carolina!
@salteddusk I will propably buy it for myself too!
@Welmaris genuine love is the answer to all the questions!
@GB Unnie, yes the killer had to kill KC’s family and since YJ has become his wife, it was his immediate family. So, the killer would try to kill her…
@WE we are going to see more on that.
I am going to say bye for now! Enjoy your Saturday!
@GB, yes we will get that next episode. The killer know that KCH goes outside of W. He even know that Kang Chul died. And we got a previous scene where the killer is on the bridge. He know where Kang Chul died.
@Salteddusk,
Predetermination is something we have discussed since the beginning. When I first watched W I said that made me fall in love with it. Since Kang Chul is the one who starts to decide for himself!
KC tells the station director that he wants to stop trying to find the culprit behind his family’s murder. “There’s no longer any significance for me.” That’s because in the real world KC learned that losing his family was a plot device with no context used to make him a strong character and give him motivation to act. “I don’t have any right to anymore either.” Because KC chose to shoot Artist Oh, who was unarmed, in the chest at close range out of anger, not self-defense, KC abandoned his righteousness.
“…The need to find the criminal has disappeared.” KC doesn’t yet know that the hooded murderer has become corporeal and self-determining.
So our romance genre has let YJ into a contract marriage with KC. I like a good contract marriage story, if done right.
YJ’s “wedding” consists of wearing a lacy white skirt and receiving the wedding ring (which she puts on herself) from KC’s right hand man.
After their kiss in the jail, YJ does not see KC, but in the intervening time before their next in-person meeting, she becomes married to him, receives a wedding ring, is welcomed into their shared home, all accompanied by KC’s proxy, Do Yoon. Is this a new take on the phrase “always the bridesmaid but never the bride”? Good thing this isn’t a love triangle story, or acting on KC’s behalf might have been rough on Do Yoon.
These have to be the fastest scenes establishing “domestic bliss” I’ve seen in a Kdrama. Kudos to Writernim for keeping KC in character, that he’s learning romance from a book. YJ is getting what she chose–a simple-pleasures, slice-of-life approach to romance–but KC doesn’t quit hoping it will be the platform from which they launch into more steamy expressions of their relationship.
So Hee is right in her perception that the marriage of KC and YJ isn’t a complete sham. She senses there are feelings KC has for YJ that he’s never entertained for SH in all the years they’ve known each other.
“So you have to find me. Why did you die without finding me? You can’t die right now. The end…It will only be the end when we fight to the end, once and for all.” Real Culprit is not omniscient. He doesn’t know where KC is when he calls him on the phone. He doesn’t know how KC came back from the dead. “Whose choice was it to die?” Real Culprit doesn’t understand KC’s motivation for that action, which KC so eloquently explained to YJ at the jail. Real Culprit is in the comic, and can appear in the real world (we saw him standing on the railing of the Han River Bridge after KC jumped), but he doesn’t have the god view of what is happening because he’s another character.
During their confrontation in the real world, Writer Oh told KC that there was no Real Culprit, that he was a configuration to make the protagonist stronger. Now that Real Culprit is acting independently of Writer Oh, YJ, KC, or anyone else, he has a measure of personhood and is responsible for the choices he makes. His murderousness is no longer predetermined, but self-determined, since he is now able to choose whether or not to act on his impulses. Feeling compelled to do something and actually going through the steps to carry out the action are two different things.
Back in Episode 6, when Writer Oh woke in the hospital, his brows knitted like he was coming out of a nightmare, then he stared at the ceiling. Rather than look at his ex-wife who was speaking next to him, he continued to look at the ceiling, eyes shifting side to side. What did he see? When YJ went to visit her newly awakened father, he looked at her when she asked. When Soo Bong blurted out that KC had committed suicide, Writer Oh’s brow furrowed.
During the confrontation between KC and Writer Oh in Episode 5, KC said that Writer Oh originally tried to kill him off because he was too afraid to kill himself. From that point on KC repeatedly had the nightmare of drowning in the Han River. He was living and dying at the same time. KC accused Writer Oh of causing the recurring nightmare by killing him, then bringing him back to life. Writer Oh said that wasn’t the case: he’d actually killed KC by drawing him falling into the water, but instead KC endured, refusing to fall from the bridge by clinging to the rail. KC’s will surpassed Writer Oh’s.
“With the brain I gave you, you tried to know about this world! Does that make sense? You’re just a measly drawing! Not even a person! You kept bothering me, and eventually, you even showed yourself here!” [from Episode 5]. This was spoken about Kang Chul, who over the course of the W webtoon story was given traits of a highly capable hero. When Writer Oh created Real Culprit, he wasn’t imbued with a brain or any other traits other than a drive to kill and the skill to shoot accurately. If Kang Chul and Real Culprit can develop self-determining personhood, why can’t any others in the W world?
What sets those two apart? Part of it is their relationship: Kang Chul is the protagonist, and Real Culprit is the antagonist of W. The story revolves around their conflict. As Writer Oh said in Episode 5, “I can’t even create an ending as I wish. What do you want me to do when the story only progresses when you have to comprehend it?” When KC and Real Culprit’s conflict reaches a logical conclusion, their story ends. Kang Chul responds, “You know the kind of ending I can comprehend. It’s simple. Capture the real culprit, and make him pay the price, and let me live an ordinary life. That is all. Just let me know who the real culprit is. As you say, my resolution to find the culprit is so strong that I seem to have come all this way, unable to die.”
Could Real Culprit have developed personhood because Kang Chul willed him into being? When we see Real Culprit in the real world, standing on the railing of the Han River Bridge after Kang Chul jumped into the water, inside Real Culprit’s hood we see the static of a malfunctioning computer screen. He didn’t have a face. Kang Chul had demanded of Writer Oh, “Draw the real culprit’s face. In a way that I can remember.” As yet, without a face, Real Culprit isn’t quite real enough. The fight to the end that Real Culprit expects to have with Kang Chul, has been waiting a long time to have with Kang Chul, can’t take place if they can’t meet with some measure of equality. It’s not a fight if the outcome has been predetermined: there needs to be the potential for either to win, either to lose. As a predetermined configuration, Real Culprit had no vulnerabilities. As willed into being by Kang Chul, Real Culprit will have the potential to be vanquished.
@Welmaris
“Could Real Culprit have developed personhood because Kang Chul willed him into being?”
I think thats a probability since their story is so tied together. And if that’s the case then it makes sense he is outside? maybe? because KC was outside of W. Although it seems my thinking is a stretch to me.
All these thoughts are in my head now. No need to answer because I’m just brainstorming here. =) There’s been a conversation already about this, but this episode brought it back to me.
– If YJ is the real creator of KC: how was Writer Oh able to take over the story? Was KC already a self by the time Writer Oh took over?
– The culprit becomes real as KC
– YJ saves KC again
– @GB mentionied the logic totatally goes; which serves only to confuse me lol
Can anyone share the link to the Love is book? I wondered if that book was real
I have to go again =)
@Carolina:
KCH become self aware when Sung-Moo try to suicide him when jumping at the bridge.
But we could suppose the process is long. Here is the starting point. Then, without knowing it, he changes some scenes in the manhwa after Sung-Moo draw them. (Montage scene during episode 3, when Yeon-Joo read the notes of her father)
About the killer call, we get answers next episode.
For now, it’s a mystery and a cliffhanger.
@GB, I can see the logic of Real Culprit–inside the comic–knowing that Kang Chul has married because the information was front page news.
Real Culprit also knew that Kang Chul had jumped from the Han River Bridge, but as of the end of Episode 7 the timeline on that is still fuzzy. Kang Chul jumped from the bridge in the real world; he was missing from the real world for two months and presumed dead. When W world resumed (and that happened when KC returned), Kang Chul had been missing for one day and rescued from the water immediately after he jumped. Kang Chul’s actual experience was a hybrid: he jumped from the bridge in the real world; the last chapter with the scene of his suicide was uploaded to the manhwa publisher’s Team Leader Park; Kang Chul was suspended in the water, and in time, as soon as the webtoon in the real world stopped with “The End” in the last panel, yet he was able to think about YJ two months into his suspended animation; Kang Chul remained in suspended animation, undying, after the notation in the webtoon’s last panel changed from The End to To Be Continued; In W world Kang Chul was rescued from the water under the Han River Bridge by the police boat divers drawn by Soo Bong in the real world; Kang Chul awakens, as if from a nightmare, in his own bed in the penthouse in W world.
Good point, @GB, that Real Culprit is reactivated when Kang Chul marries, giving him a new family and providing RC a new target. But RC reappeared previously, brought back by Writer Oh as the first assailant when Kang Chul was stabbed on the roof, Writer Oh being the second assailant.
If Real Culprit doesn’t yet have a face and mouth with which to speak, but must rely on chyrons, why does he telephone Kang Chul before speaking? I suppose it is proof that RC is not invisible and omnipresent, and he’s bound by some logic. He must rely on a physical speaker (the phone) to broadcast his message.
Somehow Real Culprit is connected to Writer Oh’s tablet. Kang Chul reaches through, and steps through, the tablet, but the malfunctioning tablet is seen where Real Culprit’s face should be. That is one reason why Real Culprit can only speak through chyrons before he gets a recognizable human face. That’s Voice Over Internet Protocol (VOIP), literally!
@Welmaris, I’ve read all your comments. And there is a lot of good view. I can’t answer to all, and it don’t really need.
About your last one, I comment about how I see this:
Kang Chul suicide on the bridge. Last scene of the manhwa with “END”. 2 month later, Yeon-Joo is in the restaurant toilet and sucked in W world. How it happened:
– W world is frozen, nothing can happen, even Kang Chul is frozen now. It’s the “END” statut. During this time, KCH can’t invoke Yeon-Joo in W world.
– For an unknow reason (for now, but we will know next episode), the real killer isn’t frozen and refuse this end. The Manhwa restart.
– As soon as it’s done, Kang Chul in the river has a last thought for Yeon-Joo (concious or inconcious).
– Yeon-Joo is sucked in W world in the river.
– Yeon-Joo looks at the smartphone and sees “END” goes to “TO BE CONTINUED”, but it’s not after, it’s simultaneous. It’s just the manhwa wait a bit before to publish the content. So, the real moment when the manhwa restart is before: When the killer refuse the end.
– Then, because the manhwa is on “TO BE CONTINUED”, it’s possible to draw it (but only Yeon Joo can do it now). Before it was impossible for anyone because the manhwa was on END.
I hope you can understand my writing. I didn’t use auto-translation.
Also: Killer way of communicate. It’s a thing we will know more later, episode 8 and episode 11. The killer can’t do that magicaly, he need to communicate in an acceptable way (a channel), like someone else could do. It’s just when he speak, instead of a voice, it’s chryons because he don’t have a face and mouth. In the drama he have a dark voice, but it’s the director who made it like that (for obvious reason, it’s not easy for the audience to just read). In the script, there is no voice, only the Chryons.
@WEnchanteur, votre anglais est bien meilleur que mon français. (I did have to use Google Translate despite having studied French in high school and college. My school days were decades ago, and I haven’t had real-life opportunity to practice ever since.)
@WE and @Welmaris, I deliberately tried to come up with some explanation of my own for various things. Something @WE said made me go back to check on stuff. As I tried to figure out things, I realised that I just can’t remember the nitty-gritties. I went backwards to FFD bits and pieces of conversations first in Ep 7 then Ep 6 and Ep 5 … There’s a great difference when I actually write out the dialogues. Then I’d not be so confused and I can find most stuff. But this round is tough.
I don’t think I’ve the time to tackle ‘W’. I’ll probably make some wild guesses and counter check against what you’ve written.
Thank goodness @WE has rewatched it many times and can understand what funny information that keeps eluding me.
The other thing is that perhaps I need to go forward and finish this thoroughly since as you say, first we get the hook and the explanation is later. It’s so frustrating!
@GB, yes, no need to tackle so much. The first time I watched this drama, I made no effort to analyze it. I just liked it. The principle of creating mysteries and then answering them is the basis of any drama of this kind.
I can relate my state of mind during my first watching:
– Until the end of episode 8, everything was crystal clear, as the mysteries had an answer sooner or later. With the previous episodes, this dynamic was always respected. Like for example “why did Oh Sung-Moo disappear?”. He was in W. Why does Kang Chul know he can shoot Yeon-Joo without hurting her? Because he stabbed Oh Sung-Moo and he didn’t get hurt. Everything has an explanation. This made me feel confident very quickly, and I never tried to understand more than what I saw. I was too excited with the incredible plot-twists and overall quality to rack my brain. When at the end of episode 7 I see the characters appearing in the air and the return of the killer, I just shout “Wow! So great!”. I don’t even think for two seconds, I immediately watch the next episode!!!
– At the end of episode 8, there is a bit of a fuzzy explanation on some points that confused me. Although the overall process used made sense, my logical instinct was trying to figure out some of the implications with the feeling that something was wrong. I’ll make a note of that.
– At the end of episode 9 and episode 11, there are two events that will never have a straightforward explanation. But Yeon-Joo wonders (so the viewer immediately knows that the writer has an explanation, if we don’t guess, we can just wait), and of course, she gives the key to understanding the second time (and the audience completes this thanks to the logic of the concept).
– In episode 12, there is an answer to one of the implications of the end of episode 8. My previous impression was normal because the character himself made a mistake in episode 8 (which he will regret later). As for the other implication, I was able to make sense of it after rewatching the drama several times, but it will probably remain a shaky point in the drama. In general, I felt uncomfortable with the explanations in episode 12, as they were too quick and complex to interpret.
– At the end of episode 12 and episode 13, there is also something that is not explained enough, about how the transit between worlds works. After giving her quick explanation, the scriptwriter thinks that the audience has all it takes and can build on that. In my opinion, this only half works.
– Finally, during the final episode, there was one specific point where I was uncomfortable as well.
So, I didn’t have that many problematic points, but it was enough to confuse me. Hence the need to not confuse the audience and to provide the proof of concept, as is done in the first part. The evidence is that a lot of people who criticize the drama often make the same comment: they loved the first part, and did not like the second.
On some reviews, people feel that everything was good and that they had no problem understanding it. I don’t know if they are telling the truth. But it’s not impossible if they were focused enough or had the ability to connect quickly. I, on the other hand, was unable to do so at the first watching.
But the comprehension problems had no effect on my enthusiasm for the drama, while it was a problem for other dramas. I guess it has to do with the quality of what is given directly. We can easily understand the action in the first degree. That’s probably why I don’t have any passion for some dramas like Grid. Beyond the difficulty to understand, there is also a more simple problem, the quality of the story is not present. Whereas in W, everything is deliciously crazy. It’s a perpetual avalanche of dinginess that drives the characters half-mad.
It makes any dialogue funny because whatever they are saying, it refers to such an offbeat view of reality. Take any scene:
– Soo-Bong’s message: “Professor, Yeon-Joo has returned, but I can’t control the story anymore.”
– Soo-Bong: “Noona, you’re worried about a cartoon character when we’re acceptable for the mental asylum.”
– The manhwa starts again, Soo-Bong is half mad “What? ‘End’ became ‘To be continued’, by itself?”.
– Yeon-Joo “The character doesn’t want to resurrect, so it’s up to us. Oh, we can just say that he is not really dead. Yes, nowhere is that proven. So he can be saved at the last moment.”
And the writer always bounces off what she delivers, for example in this episode 7, Kang Chul and Yeon-Joo have a tender moment, but… Kang Chul says that it should not go too far. Because he knows that if he is moved, he will make Yeon-Joo disappear. I think that for the direct understanding, no viewer has any worries to understand this.
Thank you @WE for sharing your state of mind. I feel that if I had started watching ‘W’ just a couple of months ago for the first time, it would have been better. I’d have been so intrigued, I’d have transcribed most of the dialogues, I’d have analysed more minutely from the start.
I can’t manage that now. I will see if I have time to soldier on and try my best so that I don’t keep inflicting you with my frustrations and endless questions. I find so often the response is ‘you’ll see in another episode’, hence I feel I might as well watch ahead and spare you some of unnecessary questions. I may still ask them after the episodes are past if I missed the clues.
BTW, what is the French word that you are translating as ‘dinginess’? Does it refer to lack of clarity? I believe your meaning is something different from what it is in English.
@GB, a bad translation? Something similar to “crazyness”.
Like I said often, you don’t need to analyze if you feel it’s painfull for you. And ask questions of course. If this is coming in a next episode, ask again in case I forget to answer and you didn’t get the situation at this point. 😉
Now I post the script excerpts with some comments.
The cliffhanger of episode 7 in the script. Here, there is no doubt, the cliffhanger of the drama is much better.
But as I have explained many times, the writer is sincere with her content. She never wants to add filler content to delay the end of an episode. She aims for a high density of story. Only the important events should follow each other without stopping. And nothing more.
Therefore, she takes an average scene as far as suspense is concerned, and does her best to give it a cliffhanger flavor.
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#53. In the convoy bus + road (dawn)
As the car starts, Yeon Joo is suddenly exhausted by unbearable fatigue.
For the first time in two months, I feel like I can get a good night’s sleep.
A comfortable smile floats on his lips as if he is handcuffed in a shroud…
Meanwhile, Kang Chul is standing still and looking at the bus moving away.
I’m thinking of Yeon Joo’s words. Saying it’s a sequel.
The third life started again.
Meanwhile, the sky behind my back is already starting to get cloudy…
End of the 7th.
The scene with the young Yeon-Joo drawing Kang Chul.
It’s interesting in terms of the brackets that are detailed. The difficulty is that a child actress will have to play the scene. So you have to give her the understanding. The actress will reproduce this quite well. For example:
“YOUNG YEON JOO – Age. 18.. 2nd year high school. National shooting team. (Imagining myself for a moment and writing it again) My height is 180… (I erased it with an eraser) No… 185… (Happy while drawing my ideal type) Name… What do you call it…?”
There is a screenplay writing error here, which shows that even at the highest level, Korean screenwriters are much more lax on screenwriting rules.
“Young Yeon Joo, with her chin on her desk, is as if in love with the man in the picture she drew… Her eyes are already into the fantasy world of an adolescent girl. Spreading the wings of imagination infinitely far while looking at the picture…
Dissolve.
Yeon Joo’s room at Sung Moo’s current house. ”
When there is “Dissolve,” it should be done in scene transition. The Reminiscence ends, even if it’s the same place, it’s another time (and with other actors!), so it’s no contest… Here, we had to change the scene!
The explanation of the PLOT-HOLE of the PRISONER’S CLOTHES!
“Yeon Joo and Sung Moo’s tablets are on the desk and they are drawing with pens.
(** This is the situation after the 41st scene in episode 7. A few hours after changing wet clothes. The clothes match the clothes you were wearing in the 7th detention center) ”
@Cleo!!! You were right!
I posted the previous script which was not clear about this. But here, the scriptwriter indicates that Yeon-Joo is wearing the prisoner’s outfit! She changed her outfit because on one hand her previous clothes were wet, and on the other hand… She is drawing to go back to W. So, she put on the prisoner’s outfit herself in the real world to prepare to go back to the prison of W.
Something got stuck in the production line and didn’t follow the script. Or someone made a mistake and only took into account the previous scene and misinterpreted it.
We have another difference between the script and the drama:
“Yeon Joo throws the pen and gets up. I can’t do it my way and I fall on the bed in despair.
My fingers are all red and swollen and it hurts so much…
Yeon Joo lying on the bed with a feeling of giving up on everything. ”
We see Yeon-Joo looking at her red finger, but she doesn’t take a break in her bed.
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#3. Reminiscence – Sung Moo’s house Yeon Joo’s room (Night)
midnight.
School uniforms are hanging, and posters of brothers such as HOT, Jang Hyuk, and Bae Yong-jun are on the wall.
Young Yeon Joo, sitting in front of a desk as if studying with an open reference book, is absorbed in something.
When you get close to the camera… Yeon Joo is drawing a cartoon in the practice range…
He cuts a photo of a representative shooting player from the newspaper and puts it in front of him, looking at it and diligently drawing a full-body cut of a man wearing goggles. I’m completely absorbed in it…
He depicts a handsome man with very long and skinny legs and a typical pure cartoon character.
Next to the picture, mumble and write a description.
YOUNG YEON JOO – Age.. 18.. 2nd year high school. National shooting team. (Imagining myself for a moment and writing it again) My height is 180… (I erased it with an eraser) No… 185… (Happy while drawing my ideal type) Name… What do you call it…?
Meanwhile, outside, I heard the house phone ringing and Soo Sun’s answer.
SOO SUN – (E) It’s Yeon Joo
Yeon Joo, like lightning at that sound, put the reference book on the practice range and pretend to study hard.
Soo Sun picks up the phone and opens the door.
SOO SUN – (Gives home phone) Seul called.
YOUNG YEON JOO – Huh? (Just then, pretending to be awake, answering the phone)
SOO SUN – (After leaving)
YOUNG YEON JOO – Hello.
FRIEND1 – (E) Are you done? I’m afraid I won’t be able to pay for it because I’m afraid I will call Damtan
YOUNG YEON JOO – I didn’t either. i’m busy right now
FRIEND1 – (E) What are you doing?
YOUNG YEON JOO – I finally found my ideal type.
FRIEND1 – (E) Has your ideal type changed again?
Putting down the reference book and calling while looking down at the sketch of the practice area..
YOUNG YEON JOO – No, this time it’s real~ Listen. I’m in high school and I’m a shooting representative. Go to the tournament and win a comeback with one last shot. Isn’t that cool? And he’s a genius. I’m good at sports, but I’m also good at studying. He’s over 185 degrees tall… he’s skinny, but he’s very muscular.
FRIEND1 – (E) Hey, that oppa is the best~ Who is it? Are you my school senior?
YOUNG YEON JOO – No..
FRIEND1 – (E) So where are you going? Let me see your face too.
YOUNG YEON JOO – I can’t see your face. (and) I can’t meet…
Young Yeon Joo, with her chin on her desk, is as if in love with the man in the picture she drew… Her eyes are already into the fantasy world of an adolescent girl. Spreading the wings of imagination infinitely far while looking at the picture…
Dissolve.
Yeon Joo’s room at Sung Moo’s current house.
There are no posters of the old stars, and all the books from school days have been removed.. An empty room with only an old desk and a bed.
Yeon Joo and Sung Moo’s tablets are on the desk and they are drawing with pens.
(** This is the situation after the 41st scene in episode 7. A few hours after changing wet clothes. The clothes match the clothes you were wearing in the 7th detention center)
Pencil sketches of the trained diver and Kang Chul are scattered here and there.
Soo Bong walks in with a drink
SOO BONG – (Putting drinks on the desk) Do you want something?
YEON JOO – Don’t Come! Don’t look! (covering with arm)
SOO BONG – (looks down) Kang Chul.. Doesn’t it look like anything?
YEON JOO – (Painful, covering face) Ah… it’s really hard… the line doesn’t come out…
SOO BONG – I heard you were good at drawing noona. You said you dreamed of becoming a cartoonist?
YEON JOO – Sometime since I’ve finished drawing… The pen (respondent for the electronic pen) is awkward… It’s never been like this before.
SOO BONG – If it doesn’t work, I give up. When the teacher calls
YEON JOO – (OL at that word) Don’t say anything to Daddy on the phone! (and redraw) I’ll save… Kang Chul, I’ll save it.
SOO BONG – (Face)
Time passed by dissolve.
Yeon Joo throws the pen and gets up. I can’t do it my way and I fall on the bed in despair.
My fingers are all red and swollen and it hurts so much…
Yeon Joo lying on the bed with a feeling of giving up on everything..
YEON JOO – (Like a monologue with lost confidence) I’m sorry.. I don’t think I can.. (Closes tired eyes)
Yeon Joo, dreaming in a short nap…
The moment I met Kang Chul in the water (in episode 7, 27 scenes)…
The image of Kang Chul moving farther into the abyss in front of his eyes is vivid.
Yeon Joo’s eyes wide open. My eyes are already wet with tears.
The end is unacceptable even in death.
I jumped up, wiped my tears, went to my desk on the road, sat down and started drawing again.
The series of scenes when Kang Chul left the police bus where Yeon-Joo is.
These scenes are interesting from the point of view of screenplay. Unlike a western screenplay, Song Jae-Jung regularly gives a short line about the state of mind of the character. This is in addition to what he does (show). The actor does not only have a proposal to play the character. He also has an indication of his deep feeling, and can therefore interpret the expressions in his own way.
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#6. Kang Chul’s car + Hangang Bridge (Dawn)
Kang Chul driving through the Hangang Bridge in the early morning.
Passing by, I glanced at the place where I died and was resurrected.
I still can’t feel the life that suddenly started again…
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#7. Private elevator (morning)
Kang Chul, deep in thought..
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#8. Penthouse entrance (morning)
Kang Chul comes out of the elevator, and bodyguard 1 is standing in the hallway.
BODYGUARD1 – CEO!
KANG CHUL – …..
BODYGUARD1 – Where are you going? You didn’t even bring your cell phone.
KANG CHUL – (entering without answer)
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#9. Penthouse Living Room (Breakfast)
Kang Chul, walking in, standing and looking around his space unfamiliar..
Episode 6, the document photos of the living room I saw at Sung Moo’s house overlapped and passed…
A terrifying sense of unease that popped out.
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#10. Penthouse Bedroom (Breakfast)
Kang Chul opens the door and walks in.
Episode 6, the document photos of the bedroom I saw at Sung Moo’s house overlapped and passed…
Then, sitting on a chair by the window, waiting with a cell phone in his hand, he sees Soo Hee, who has fallen asleep.. A pencil sketch of Soo Hee’s face, seen this time in Sung Moo’s studio, brushes over the sleeping Soo Hee’s face.
Kang Chul, a deep sigh…
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#11. Penthouse Corridor (Morning)
Do Yoon, who came in after hearing the news, rushed to the bedroom.
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#12. Penthouse Bedroom (Breakfast)
Do Yoon opens the door and walks in, looking at Kang Chul and Soo Hee, who is sleeping with his chin crossed on the bed.
DO YOON – Representative Kang.
KANG CHUL – ….. (Looking back)
Do Yoon’s appearance with a worried expression,
Episode 5, the character cut of Do Yoon that I saw in the comic book at the bookstore passes by..
Kang Chul, I’m not sure if I’ll be able to live well with this feeling.
The approaching Do Yoon is unfamiliar to me, so I can’t see it and lower my gaze with my hand
DO YOON – (…? approaching) Where did you go..?
KANG CHUL – ……
DO YOON – (Strange) Why?
KANG CHUL – (still averting his gaze and low) Call the legal team, hyung. Oh Yeon Joo’s problem.
Despite the poor translation, I hope you enjoy those moments in the police station scene.
What is striking again in the script is that the emotions and intentions of the characters are expressed. Like in a novel instead of a screenplay. Except that this is of course shorter.
Some moments are perfectly reproduced, and the precision and simplicity of the script are amazing. Like here:
“I was sneering and trembling, but at the sincerity that suddenly appeared like this,
A light smile on Kang Chul’s lips… A strange feeling that is both funny and sad…”
Since the intentions of the scene are very clear, this allows for some changes.
Kang Chul does not say “Damn-it” in the drama. He sheds a tear at one point.
And of course, the famous kiss with handcuffs. The script does indicate that there is a second kiss, but the way it takes place was directed by director Jung Dae-Yoon.
I have every reason to believe that this director was as passionate about the screenplay, as I was about watching the drama, lol!!!
He fully owned the work and did his best to develop it, as if it was his own.
I think at one point this may have even caused a conflict with the writer. She talks about this slightly in an interview, but it’s very unclear. A mismatch between the script of the last episode and the drama. But I’ll have to read further to detect what changes. Last time I read this quickly, I didn’t see much difference. As another problem on this drama, I think there must have been discussions between the writer and the production to make it in 17 episodes, but it was not possible.
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#15. Police Station Reception Room (Daytime)
KANG CHUL – I was born an orphan. I was just born alone. From any alcoholic pen tip.
YEON JOO – (Face)
KANG CHUL – I… Why have I been sad and missing what…?
YEON JOO – ……!
KANG CHUL – Don’t overdo it. I thought I was happy that I did something, but I’m not at all.
You… you’ve been completely fooled. Who says thank you?
YEON JOO – ……
KANG CHUL – Who wants to live this life again.. make a sequel..?
YEON JOO – (I can’t answer anything.. In the end, only tears are falling..)
KANG CHUL – ……
YEON JOO – (I can’t look at Kang Chul’s eyes anymore and I’ll look down eventually
I know it’s not Yeon Joo’s fault. However, there was only Yeon Joo in this world who could listen to this heart, so she could not bear the harsh words without knowing it.
Kang Chul, seeing Yeon Joo’s tears dripping on the table makes my heart hurt again…
YEON JOO – I… did something useless…
KANG CHUL – …… now you understand? Did you make a mistake…?
YEON JOO – (Sadly and sadly) Yes.. Now I know.. What to do to hear such resentment..
KANG CHUL – ……
YEON JOO – (I can’t even use my hands because of the handcuffs, tears are dripping down) Do you know what I’ve been up to..? I came here on a blind date with a handsome prosecutor. It was going well. Like everyone else, I didn’t say I was a dog, a cow, or a beauty, and I was pretty. But because of you, my colic was broken.
KANG CHUL – ……
YEON JOO – I’ll just ignore it for the rest of my life whether I’m floating in the water or not.. While struggling with what to do alone… (continue to sniff in embarrassment)
KANG CHUL – That’s right… I didn’t keep going on blind dates.
YEON JOO – (Pause)
KANG CHUL – (Self-help) All you have to do is work hard at the hospital, have a relationship, and live well. Why are you doing this..? like a fool
YEON JOO – (Face)
KANG CHUL – What do you do with that crappy cartoon, you’re handcuffed with regrets, and you’re going through this hardship…
YEON JOO – Because I love you..!
KANG CHUL – (…!)
YEON JOO – (Confession that Kang Chul uttered like an anger because he was so resentful for asking the obvious)
KANG CHUL – (expression)
A few seconds of silence passed…
At Yeon Joo’s eyes wet with tears… Suddenly, behind Kang Chul, the caption {Continue} appeared.
Yeon Joo, …! In surprise, she disappears in an instant before he can say anything.
Kang Chul, facial expression.
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#16. Sung Moo’s house Yeon Joo’s room (Night)
Yeon Joo came back and sat on the bed where she fell asleep.
I was momentarily dazed by the sudden change of environment…
A stand on the desk, Sung Moo’s tablet he was working on..
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#17. Police Station Reception Room (Daytime)
Looking at the place where Yeon Joo suddenly disappeared, Kang Chul..
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#18. Sung Moo’s Living Room (Night)
Yeon Joo looking out of the room in handcuffs.
Soo Bong is sleeping on the sofa with the fan on…
The dazed Yeon Joo realizes why she suddenly jumped here.
Reminiscences run through my mind…
{Recall Insert}
C#1. Penthouse Guest Room (4 episodes in 8 scenes)
YEON JOO – (suddenly) I love you.
KANG CHUL – (Looking back)
YEON JOO – …… (Wait for a moment and then wave your hands) No.
KANG CHUL – (smiling)
C#2. Inside the plane + Penthouse Guest Room (in episode 4 22 scenes)
KANG CHUL – Good night. (I’m trying to hang up)
YEON JOO – (suddenly) I love you.
KANG CHUL – ……
YEON JOO – ……
KANG CHUL – You know that doesn’t make sense, right?
Back from the recollection…
Yeon Joo realized that Kang Chul was finally shaken by her third confession…!!
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#19. Police Station Reception Room (Daytime)
With Kang Chul and Yeon Joo disappearing, their eyes are fixed…
I was sneering and trembling, but at the sincerity that suddenly appeared like this,
A light smile on Kang Chul’s lips… A strange feeling that is both funny and sad…
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#20. Sung Moo’s Living Room (Night)
Yeon Joo, wiping the tears away with the collar… The sadness disappeared like snow.
It feels like he confessed but received Kang Chul’s confession
Yeon Joo, unable to control her mind, wanders around looking at the wall clock.
I didn’t even think of waking up Soo Bong or removing the handcuffs…
I just want to go back soon.
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#21. Police Station Reception Room (Daytime)
Kang Chul, sitting still, waiting for Yeon Joo to return.
Looking at the empty chair… I still don’t know how to live, but at least it doesn’t seem as terribly empty as before. No, I feel like I won’t be able to live without this woman coming back all of a sudden.
KANG CHUL – (Closing his eyes with a long sigh, exhaling) ….. Damn it…
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#22. Police Station Reception Room (Day) + Sung Moo’s Living Room (Night)
It will be split…
Yeon Joo, walking around looking at the wall clock…
Kang Chul sat still and looked at Yeon Joo’s spot.
Time passes without any promise of when we will be able to meet again.
One minute passes… Two minutes pass… Three minutes pass…
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#23. Police Station Reception Room (Daytime)
Five minutes passed and Yeon Joo still didn’t come back.
Kang Chul, only then realized that he was peering through the window…
Taking a deep breath, he got up and went to the window.
When I lower the blinds, I hear a rattling sound, and when I turn around, Yeon Joo comes back and stands in front of the table (** If there is no window, you can lock the door)
KANG CHUL – (…!)
YEON JOO – (…!)
Neither have those brief few minutes felt so long in my life.
YEON JOO – …….
KANG CHUL – …….
YEON JOO – (My heart feels like it’s going to explode, but it’s awkward when I see it.) I said I didn’t like jail breakers.. I pretended that I’d never be shaken.. I’m barely shaken by those words..?
KANG CHUL – ……
YEON JOO – And… don’t say anything to me. I don’t come here because I want to. I was drawn in. Because you keep thinking of me It was in the water, and now…
KANG CHUL – ……
YEON JOO – Isn’t it..?
KANG CHUL – (meekly admitting) … That’s right.
YEON JOO – (Face)
KANG CHUL – I was afraid.
YEON JOO – ….. what… what…?
KANG CHUL – Never to see you again.
YEON JOO – (…!)
Kang Chul and Yeon Joo came and kissed me right away before they could say anything.
Yeon Joo, ….!
A deep, sweet kiss that has forgotten the place and the situation continues for a long time…
After a while, a detective with coffee opens the door and walks in and is startled.
Detective, what? I wanted to stand up and watch, and then I panicked and went out on the road..
YEON JOO – (Opens eyes to the sound, opens lips to see the detective leaving)
KANG CHUL – (I open my eyes slowly, late)
YEON JOO – What should I do? The detective saw…
KANG CHUL – It doesn’t matter (pulls him straight and kisses him again)
The situation of the 4 romantic choices.
We notice that in the script are absent two events seen in the drama:
– When Kang Chul gives his intrustructions for choice #4.
– When Yeon-Joo is wrong and says 3, but makes 4 with her fingers.
And really, these are the two key points that are the highlight of the scene!!!
However, there is definitely a version of the script that is the shot version. Theoretically, it is the role of the screenwriter to adapt the script. So it is possible that these two elements are also a creation of the writer, in the modified version of the script. I don’t know.
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#33. Detention center visit room (daytime)
But beyond the glass wall, there is only Do Yoon and the lawyer.
YEON JOO – The (disappointed) representative…?
DO YOON – You are busy. Instead, you sent me a message.
YEON JOO – A message…?
DO YOON – For legal matters later (pointing), you can listen to the lawyer separately,
The representative told me to tell you exactly like this.
YEON JOO – (?)
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#34. Penthouse Bedroom (Morning)
Kang Chul explains to Do Yoon, busy putting on his suit and picking up some thick legal papers from the table.
KANG CHUL – There are only one or two types of sweet romance that women like.
DO YOON – What?
KANG CHUL – I want to pay off my debt, but I can’t afford it, so please narrow down the categories a bit. (Looking at the memo written next to the document) No. 1 Cinderella concept with a fancy party.
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#35. Detention center visit room (daytime) + Penthouse bedroom (morning)
As Kang Chul talks directly to Yeon Joo in two parts, the cut talking to Do Yoon is divided.
YEON JOO – Yes?
KANG CHUL – number two. A romantic trip alone for the two of us in the countryside. number 3. Simple romance in everyday life.
YEON JOO – (Face)
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#34. Penthouse living room (morning)
Kang Chul rushes to the front door, and Do Yoon follows the note Kang Chul gave him.
DO YOON – What the hell is this?
KANG CHUL – Choose from among them. (Looking around suddenly) No, can I add one more?
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#35. Detention center visit room (daytime)
DO YOON – 4 times. An unconventional and provocative 19 gold concept. (and coughing)
By the way, the representative asked me to tell you that number 4 is my preference.
YEON JOO – (Face)
DO YOON – Let’s choose. which one do you like
YEON JOO – (Awkward) What is this…?
DO YOON – He told me to pay off the debt of my life with a sweet romance.
YEON JOO – No… (uncomfortable) That’s what it means.
Who told you to write a business plan with romance?
DO YOON – This is the original style of the CEO.
YEON JOO – (Face)
DO YOON – It is easy for us to prepare as well.
YEON JOO – No.. (surprised) Are you really serious about choosing?
DO YOON – Yes.
YEON JOO – (confused when Do Yoon was seriously waiting) What did number 4 say…?
DO YOON – The shocking and provocative 19 gold…
YEON JOO – (frustrated, waving hands) No no! Not that, (do) number 1?
DO YOON – Yes. Cinderella with a fancy party
YEON JOO – (confused) No. 3…
DO YOON – Then, a romance in a simple everyday life..
YEON JOO – No. Wait a minute! (Swept up in the atmosphere and get seriously conflicted) I’m curious about the party…
DO YOON – Then go to number one..
YEON JOO – No no wait a minute, number three… (hesitating, after all) yes number three.
DO YOON – I see. I will tell the representative. (felled)
YEON JOO – (It’s absurd after choosing so hard) But I’m stuck here, what am I going to do about this now?
DO YOON – (OL) You’ll be leaving soon.
YEON JOO – (?) How are you?
DO YOON – That’s… Listen closely to the lawyer.
YEON JOO – (?)
The scene where Yeon-Joo realizes that she is married.
As a difference, the title of some newspapers is different.
There is no moment when Yeon-Joo looks at the TV in the drama.
When at the end Yeon-Joo goes “AAAAH”, it is an improvisation of the actress, but from the script:
“(After telling it, she is surprised again)”
The actress also adds some joy to the surprise 😉
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#44. Penthouse Bedroom (Day)
If it cuts, Yeon Joo stands in the middle of the bedroom and is embarrassed
YEON JOO – You want me to stay here..?
DO YOON – Anyway, you are a married couple, but you have to share a room.. The employees have eyes.
YEON JOO – (flinching) No that…
At this time, when the roommaid came out of the bathroom, Yeon Joo shut her mouth.
MAID – I have water in your wife’s bathtub.
DO YOON – Wash up and get some rest. The representative will come in the evening. then.
Do Yoon and the room maid say hello and go out…
After everyone has left, the fuss is over and it’s quiet.
Yeon Joo, relaxed and exhausted, sits down on the chair. Then, my eyes shifted to the newspaper on the table next to the chair.. Along with the headline, {What is the identity of CEO Kang and Mr. Oh’s secret marriage?}, a picture of Kang Chul and a picture of a woman in a black silhouette were attached with a question mark.
{Mystery of a Top Secret Marriage} {3rd Generation Korean American?} {The Daughter of a Chinese Communist Party Executive..} With subtitles such as.. Yeon Joo, …?!!
When he wrote about himself in the newspaper, he jumped again… He picked up the remote and turned on the TV.
A news channel appeared and just before that, a scene of Yeon Joo coming out of the courthouse appeared.
{Kang Chul CEO’s wife, Oh Yeon Joo, was released a little while ago at 2pm} The headline passed…
Yeon Joo, ?!! Surprised, I quickly turn off the TV.. It’s like the whole world is talking about Yeon Joo as Kang Chul’s wife…
YEON JOO – (mumbles in silence) Am I really… married? (After telling it, she is surprised again)
The end scene of the episode.
Since it’s not a cliffhanger in the script, in reality, the scene continues (we’ll see the rest in episode 8).
Difference: Kang Chul takes the gun before picking up the phone in the drama. (as soon as he sees “unknown number”).
Final hint: “As the cell phone cuts off, the subtitles that were filled in the air disappear in an instant. ”
The Killer needs a channel, in this case the phone. Since he can’t speak, his text appears as text in a comic strip.
As soon as the telephone communication is cut off, he can no longer communicate.
“At this time, three-dimensional subtitles float in the air again in Kang Chul’s gaze.
{Where are you?} Kang Chul, ….?!!”
We see that in the script, there is no voice-over indicated, and no line of dialogue of the Killer put in voice-over (E).
So, the script only indicates the characters in the air (here with the symbols { } to indicate something written)
Actor Lee Jong Suk took advantage of the freedom left on the expressions to play Kang Chul surprised, but also very worried.
“KANG CHUL – (I said there was no real culprit, but now I’m confused) Who are you..?”
The script indicates that the character does not understand the situation. He has no context to explain what is going on. And if it looks like the real killer, it’s illogical for him since Oh Sung-Moo said he doesn’t exist. But since he’s smart, he’ll think and guess next episode, lol!!!
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#59. Penthouse Bedroom (Night)
When Kang Chul opens the door, Yeon Joo falls asleep in bed holding a book in the same posture she was reading.
Taking a peek at the roommaid
MAID – You must have been very tired.
KANG CHUL – We’ll eat together later when we wake up.
MAID – You must be a mayor…
KANG CHUL – It’s okay.
MAID – Yes. (go out)
KANG CHUL – (Puts his resignation in the bed drawer and comes to bed and sits next to Yeon Joo)
Yeon Joo The book in hand already has full-color indexes attached to it.
KANG CHUL – (Sigh) There are a lot of them.. (He carefully removes the book from Yeon Joo’s hand)
At this point, the phone vibrates.
When I take it out right away, the caller number restriction mark appears.
KANG CHUL – (…! getting up and receiving, alert and low) Hello.
No answer.
KANG CHUL – Hello.
At this time, three-dimensional subtitles float in the air again in Kang Chul’s gaze.
{Where are you?} Kang Chul, ….?!!
{How did you get back?}
Kang Chul, right under the pillow, pointing the gun out.
Kang Chul, you quickly look around and aim, but there’s nothing…
Following Kang Chul’s gaze, the subtitles float in the air.
{Who wants to die? How long have I waited for you
KANG CHUL – Who are you..?
{Who is it? don’t you know me?}
“I killed your family”
{At your house 10 years ago}
Kang Chul, !!!! At the same time, the flashbacks quickly flash by.
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#60. Reminiscence – Sung Moo’s living room (in episode 6, scene 27)
SUNG MOO – No.
KANG CHUL – What…?
SUNG MOO – The true culprit is… not there.
KANG CHUL – (expression)
SUNG MOO – It was… it was just a setting in the first place. A setting that makes the main character strong.
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#61. Penthouse Bedroom (Night)
KANG CHUL – (I said there was no real culprit, but now I’m confused) Who are you..?
“Because I killed both your parents and your brother”
{On all fours. I hit them all in the forehead}
{I’m a sharpshooter. like you}
Kang Chul, ….!!!
{So you should find me}
{Why don’t you find me and die? You must not die now.}
{The end is… it’s over when you and I see the end}
Kang Chul, …!!
“Your family is new.”
{This time it’s the girl’s turn}
Kang Chul, ….!!!! I stare at Yeon Joo who is asleep for a moment, but Yeon Joo is still asleep.
{I’ll put a gun hole in your forehead}
{Wait} Kang Chul, …!!!
As the cell phone cuts off, the subtitles that were filled in the air disappear in an instant.