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@Growing_Beautifully, @WEnchanteur, @Cleopatra, @salteddust, @Welmaris, @Janey, @Fern, @FGB4877, and @Carolina are rewatching Ep 12.
Have you all tackled the nitty-gritty parts of the drama? 🙂
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Enjoy the rewatch.
Thanks for being so on top of things, @pkml3.
We’re coming out of one lot of ‘painful’ scenes but it’s a prelude to going into another lot, I believe.
Most of the logic is more understandable now for me, with a rewatch and the helpful comments from @WE and the others.
It was just past episode 10 that I stopped watching the first time. It was too much for my newly post-pandemic self (since I did not start watching kdramas until the pandemic). I did finally watch it all the way through. The first time through I had to reframe ‘W’ from ‘cool sci-fi multiple worlds drama’ to ‘thriller’ event though the script still serves up plenty of mind-bending tidbits.
In the episode…
Resolution of the previous situation: I like Yeon-Joo’s voice-over, especially the end when she says “you did a good job”.
Soo-Bong’s antics: Stupid jump in the hospital hallway. When he laughs when Yeon-Joo has just disappeared.
The wandering feeling: This episode makes me feel like I’m wandering between worlds, with no control over how to get there or back. Yeon-Joo wanders alone through many places and ends up in a village in the countryside. After watching W several times, I had dreams while sleeping, finding myself in uncertain situations between worlds in the same way.
Han Yoo-Joo acting: the scene where she is on the verge of tears with Do-Yoon. With a very nice background music unfortunately not on the disc.
Kang Chul’s con: I don’t know what goes through his mind to make such a long joke to Yeon-Joo in such a situation. He’s pushing the joke really far. In fact, he just waits for her to guess by giving her a few hints. (maybe he just wait the end of the episode, so he can show the book, lol!)
The mega reverse flashback: A very good plot-twist, explained by flashbacks that follow each other in reverse time. Make me think about the same thing in Tarantino’s Reservoir Dogs.
An episode a bit quieter and more rural.
I have a celebration of life to attend tomorrow, so tonight will watch Episode 11 and write comments. I’ll miss chatting with you tomorrow. I hope you’ll all have a good time.
Is anyone planning to watch Lee Jong Suk’s new drama Big Mouse starting in July? I don’t have Disney+, so probably won’t.
Yeon Joo counted on her kiss having an emotional impact on Kang Chul so she could leave W, but did she have a sure-fire way to return? I suppose she’s compartmentalizing: only thinking of one problem at a time.
Sung Moo is in suspended animation unless needed by Real Culprit. If Real Culprit does not know that Yeon Joo is in the real world, she should be safe from the monster her father has become.
That’s courageous on YJ’s part to go back into her father’s office with him sitting on his chair. Bravery is not the absence of fear, but taking action despite the fear.
Actress Han Hyo Joo has improved her skills between W and her role in Happiness. Her motions trying to be sneaky are not convincing here: too cliché.
Okay, that assumption didn’t pan out. Even though Sung Moo doesn’t seem to currently have a life force independent of Real Culprit, he is able to wake and defend Real Culprit’s interests without Real Culprit’s immediate direction.
Are South Korean police really so polite when searching for assumed armed and dangerous suspects? Perhaps only in W. Ding dong! Please… If it were a USA produced police procedural, they’d probably kick down the doors without asking.
Ah ha! There’s no door to room 213. There is no room 213. Now we know who won control of the writer’s tablet in the tussle between YJ and faceless SM.
When I see KC with all that blood on the right side of his torso, it reminds me that that’s the side in which he was stabbed at the beginning of the show. Do manhwa characters not have scar tissue when they heal? If they do, then the interior of his abdomen must be full of scar tissue, not just his skin.
Clever girl, Yeon Joo, to take care of all the clues leading to KC’s location. She’s also figured out how to get first aid to KC if she can’t bring it herself.
So the power on the computer tablet controls both Real Culprit’s access to the real world and SM’s ability to represent Real Culprit’s interests. Let’s see if that remains consistent as the drama continues to unfold.
We get a new rule in this universe: YJ can be summoned into W by the second antagonist–Han Chul Ho–just by his thinking of her, not willing her to appear. Is this because she’s now part manhwa?
We still don’t know who summoned YJ to the hospital in W when the victims of the broadcast station massacre started arriving. Will Writernim clarify all the rules of transporting between worlds?
Assemblyman Han doesn’t know YJ is behind him. I suppose her sense of morality is too strong to club him over the head, even though she overhears him plotting KC’s murder.
Both antagonists now have a measure of control over YJ, at least when she’s near the drawing tablet, whether or not it is powered on. Han can drag her into W just by thinking of her. Real Culprit can physically accost her through the tablet portal.
It is confusing how sometimes a portal is needed to move between worlds. Usually on the real world side, it is the drawing tablet. Kang Chul and Real Culprit have both reached through the drawing tablet to grab onto people in the real world. Both stepped through the portal suspended in the W prison complex and emerged in the real world through the broken, abandoned, and unpowered drawing tablet. Sometimes mirrors are a means of changing from world to world: YJ moving from the bathroom at the blind date to the Han River in W then back again. Real Culprit speaking through his bathroom mirror to Sung Moo, at first, but thereafter through the ceiling of his apartment. In the plane toilet, it isn’t clear if Real Culprit appeared through the mirror: we just see the chyrons there, then all over the room, his hand grabbing SM’s hand as he reached for the door handle, then we hear their fight. Most times YJ moves from world to world without a portal, suddenly finding herself in a new location. I wish the logic of how this works was clearer.
A month passes while YJ is standing outside the National Assembly Building in W. This happens because the story, which revolves around the protagonist, speeds up when the protagonist is engaged outside the storyline. The previous time this happened, KC was recovering in the hospital from his stab wounds. This time he’s recovering from a gunshot wound and in hiding. If the same pattern applies as before when YJ sat through a speeded-up period of time in W, she should collapse from exhaustion, but she doesn’t appear to have been negatively affected this time around.
I’d also like to know how YJ paid for the taxi from the National Assembly to the hotel. She’s never before had W’s money when she’s been dragged there.
I know Writernim wants to move the story forward, but it seems patterns and logic are being abandoned left and right.
Another rule we saw established previously has been thrown out by Writernim: Characters in W whose existence is only to serve the protagonist fade away if their service is no longer needed. So Hee faded when she was bumped from being the female lead and quit her job. If Real Culprit was truly successful in turning KC into the villain of W, the purpose of So Hee and Do Yoon should now be altered or they should fade out of the story. It looks like Do Yoon is helping KC, but it seems So Hee believes the changed storyline. If she’s no longer the female lead and working for KC, why hasn’t her character faded like before?
Again, YJ has money or some other means of paying bus fare. Are we to assume she now has a T-Money [transportation] Card loaded with W-appropriate funds?
KC is listening to the recording of his family’s murder as Real Culprit rejiggered it. Does the phone now in KC’s possession have the only copy of this audio file? Was Real Culprit sloppy, not creating multiple copies and an original of the file? Real Culprit dictated that it be sent to Director Son: does that mean there is no original or other copies in existence in W? When KC breaks the phone and leaves it in the hotel room that no longer exists in W, is that audio file no longer a threat to him? I suppose if that’s the case, KC wouldn’t know, since he’s no longer aware he’s part of a manhwa.
@Welmaris, I see you’ve come to the inconsistent logic issues that made me give up on ‘W’ at my first watch. I asked many of those questions as well and @WE did answer them in some of the previous posts. No matter what, there were some plot holes or stuff that was never addressed.
We never do know for sure how YJ got into the world of ‘W’ during the shootout emergency. Our best guess is that since she’s half manhwa, she got sucked in when ‘W’ needed another doctor on the scene. The other thought that hits me is that because of the past link with KC, when he finds himself in need or dreams of her, etc, she could be dragged into ‘W’ as well. And yes, whenever someone in ‘W’ looks for her, she gets dragged in. The manhwa world seems to have greater authority in summoning both real and manhwa characters. The reason ‘why’, is never explained. Part of it may have been because the main artist, Sung Moo, had give over his power to the Killer/Real Culprit from the time of the rooftop stabbing. He had given up much of his power to the manhwa character. In a sense it is signified by his voluntarily making Killer look like himself, and sharing/losing even his soul to become the pawn of Killer.
We never know ‘why’ Sung Moo could get into ‘W’ in the first place, how he spent his time when he was away for days, or how he got out again. He certainly never went around kissing or slapping KC LOL. Even stabbing him did not result in SM returning to the real world.
So KC, himself, is under threat of fading from the manhwa. That makes no sense, because without him as a target, neither Real Culprit, nor Assemblyman Han, have purpose in the manhwa. Both have been designed as antagonists in W, so without something or someone to push against to propel the story, their purpose disappears and so should they.
I believe that if KC is no longer the central character of W, if he becomes irrelevant as as his fading suggests following the pattern set by So Hee, the whole world of W should collapse. Before, when KC learned he was a character in a manhwa, all of W stopped around him, neither alive nor dead, but in suspended animation. Why hasn’t the world of W been as profoundly affected by KC’s changed role as thrust on him by Real Culprit?
KC was the central character of W as a hero. He can still be the central character of W as an antihero. The manhwa, the story of W, has always been about Kang Chul. The central character should not fade from the manhwa. If the central character disappears from the story, that story ceases. Yes, it is possible for someone dead to be the protagonist of a story–Susie Salmon of Alice Sebold’s The Lovely Bones comes to mind–but in storytelling death is not equal to silence or lack of agency. From what we previously saw with So Hee, becoming cartoonish inside W signals irrelevance. If Writernim means something different by KC’s changes from flesh to drawing within W, it needs to be clarified.
I believe that many viewers become frustrated at this point in the drama because Writernim doesn’t keep to the rules she, herself, created.
Being in the news almost non-stop since Director Son’s murder, it’s a wonder Kang Chul can wander in public without worry of being recognized.
In the small town, as fugitives, Kang Chul and YJ do some of the things they’d previously planned to do as a couple from Puuung’s book “Love Is…” KC takes YJ clothing shopping, buys her ice cream and shares bites, and they go grocery shopping together. Back at the house where KC is staying, he cooks for YJ. All along, out loud, he’s counting the number of homework tasks he’s doing with her–as he had when they were together earlier, before he’d fallen off the roof and reset W. KC says he’s doing the homework in place of her husband, who disappeared after only doing four. YJ is dumbfounded, because she didn’t tell KC about the book or the homework.
Okay, I have to hand it to Writernim for her excellent way of solving several problems I’m having. We now know that YJ had book 34 of the W manhwa with her when she switched from the real world to W. It was her concern for KC, her emotion, that drew her into W when Real Culprit begin subverting the story and ruining KC’s prospects of a happy ending. That real-world copy of W got into KC’s hands. It was from that he learned of the Puuung book homework. It is also that copy of W that is reawakening KC’s self-awareness. Without being aware of the two worlds and how they interact, KC’s chances of beating Real Culprit at his own game are slim to none.
Hi!
I can answer a few points.
The money for the cab.
The scriptwriter doesn’t show Yeon-Joo taking money. Not to weigh it down or because she thinks it’s unnecessary. Previous episode, Yeon-Joo has money from Kang Chul’s wallet. I don’t know if she gave him back his wallet, but she probably kept some money. At the beginning of episode 11, she takes her bag in the real world. Maybe she took some money in it. So there are two possible sources for her to have money on her.
The recording.
I don’t remember, ahah! Was a copy of the recording sent to the media? Or Kang Chul has the only existing one? The killer’s plan was to send it to Kang Chul’s mentor for staging the murder. But little importance on this point.
The culprit bathroom/living room can access the real world.
It is indeed unstable if you are very logical. It’s more “show don’t tell” way to give the story. This is a point that I found too imprecise in my very first watching of W. And by the way, that explains why I didn’t reuse it in the writing of season 2. Although now I have a better understanding of this point. But I wanted at least to see the mini-portal in the Killer room, to makes it more clear.
I found an old document I had written about the rules of W. My analysis has changed a bit since then, but I had noted this:
– A manhwa character in psychic connection with a real character (either because he shares a soul or is its creator) can open a mini-portal via the graphics tablet. He can partially cross this portal to reality, but never entirely. On the other hand, he can bring a person from reality into the manhwa if he grabs him hard enough.
There is a difference between Kang Chul and the killer. The killer shares the same soul as Sung-Moo. They are inseparable. When one is defined, the other becomes faceless. Through the tablet, there is a connection between the two from one world to another. In this episode 11, Yeon-Joo makes the assumption with Soo-Bong. And there is a very clear scene in this episode: as soon as Yeon-Joo turns off the tablet, faceless Sung-Moo stops knocking at the door. All this explains that as long as the tablet is on, the killer can access the real world through the tablet. My hypothesis is that it is impossible to go to the real world from W’s world in this way (but this has never been demonstrated). The only way to get to the real world is to open a large portal, here is an excerpt from my old notes:
– The first time the main character of a manhwa realizes that he or she is in a fiction, the time of the manhwa freezes and a portal opens to reality. Only the main characters who realize that they are in a fiction can move. As long as the time of the manhwa is frozen in this way, it cannot be drawn (blank screen).
– If time is frozen in a Manhwa, it resumes its course, either when its hero returns, or if he dies or is annihilated (disappearance), wherever he is.
Yoon Seo Hee.
She doesn’t disappear because there is a way to get her out of the story. Kang Chul talks about it a bit in episode 8 and later in the drama. He wants her to have another reason to exist. Her role is to be Kang Chul’s friend and future fiancée. What Yeon-Joo made impossible. Here, she has no such obstacle, except that Kang Chul has become a criminal. Later Kang Chul’s presumed death does not make her disappear. The process used to save her and prevent her from disappearing is that she finds a new reason for her existence, and she can live without Kang Chul. She goes from being a dependent character in the manhwa to an independent character, or similar to an ordinary human being living in the other world. This seems coherent to me, but it’s true that if you want to apply pure logic, it’s open to criticism. In spite of my propensity to be very hard on logic, this is a point I didn’t notice at first watching. Since I had binge-watched the drama in 16 hours, I had the answers quickly afterwards, I didn’t think about it further, or it didn’t ring a bell (I was also thinking hard about many others points).
Yeon-Joo’s summoning.
Although there is no confirmation later (after all, we are in the same unknown as the characters), we have the answer in this episode. Yeon-Joo questions herself on the street, after escaping from Han Chul Ho. Her monologue (in the form of questions) actually gives us the key to understanding. She understands that she has been summoned by Han Chul Ho. And so, we understand that in the same way, she was summoned by the killer in episode 9. Only important characters can summon, and their importance is according to the scenario of the manhwa. Kang Chul who lost his awakening -> Killer (who kept his awakening) can summon. Kang Chul falling from grace -> Secondary villain can summon.
There is an additional clue in this episode 11, when the killer talks to Yeon-Joo on the tablet. He says “When did you go out?”.
And in Yeon-Joo’s monologue, she also makes the assumption that the killer summoned her the first time (at least it’s in the script, there’s even a flashback of the previous line, I’ll check during the rewatch if we have it in the drama too).
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#65. Convenience Store (Night)
Yeon Joo, a sudden thought…
YEON JOO – (E) Han Chul Ho is looking for me..? Did Han Chul Ho bring me here…?
Yeon Joo, I think it’s strange…
YEON JOO – (E) So last time… Kang Chul didn’t find me… (Hada expression)
I remember the subtitles I saw in the studio earlier.
{Are you Oh Yeon Joo?} {When did you leave?}
YEON JOO – (E) Because Jinbeom remembers me…? Did the real thief summoned me..?
YEON JOO – (on expression)
YEON JOO – (E) Only the main character can be summoned..? Why all of a sudden…
Yeon Joo, embarrassed expression.
Cut out Yeon Joo, buys an umbrella, takes money out of the bag and gives it to the clerk.
CLERK – (I’m giving you the money)
YEON JOO – I… What day is today?
CLERK – 20 days.
YEON JOO – What time is it?
CLERK – (looking at the clock) It’s 11 o’clock.
YEON JOO – (Anxious) Mr. Kang Chul.. What happened to you..?
CLERK – Are you Kang Chul?
YEON JOO – (Immediately) I can’t see your news…
CLERK – It looks like you killed someone and ran away and haven’t been caught yet.
YEON JOO – (…!)
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“Why all of a sudden…”
With this line, the writer tells us that the conditions have changed and there is a reason why they can now summon Yeon-Joo. The reason is never confirmed later in the drama, but it is explained using manhwa logic and storytelling, as I did.
Good point, @GB, about movement between worlds being different for Sung Moo and Yeon Joo. We did see that the first time Sung Moo entered W, it was after he drew Real Culprit stabbing Kang Chul. As Kang Chul lay bleeding on the roof, a portal appeared next to him. Wanting in any way to save his own life, Kang Chul reached into the portal, grabbed hold of Sung Moo, and dragged him into W. Once there, rather than helping Kang Chul, Sung Moo stabbed him again. Where Sung Moo went after that, and how he got back to the real world, we don’t know. But Kang Chul reached a second time through the portal and dragged Yeon Joo into W.
I’d better call it quits. It’s almost 1 a.m. here in Southern California, and I have to sleep if I’m going to be in good enough shape to go to my friend’s celebration of life. I don’t do sleep deprivation well. I’m not like Yeon Joo, able to stay awake for a month with no ill effects.
@Welmaris, easy drama rule:
A character can’t be recognized, as long as he wear a black cap!! 🙂
It’s for convenience, for the audience able to see the character.
The craziest example of this comes from “Temptation of wife”. The character only has a mole that she didn’t have before, and nobody recognizes her. This writer has a serious sense of humor! Here a parody of this (activate english subtitles):
Kang Chul disappears and not the villains.
And yes, on the contrary, it strengthens them! They want to kill or defeat Kang Chul. That he disappears is also valid. In episode 12, the killer says it himself. He is very happy that Kang Chul disappears because this way he achieves his goal which is to defeat him. ahah!!! However, it’s a stopgap because he wants to kill Kang Chul’s family first and then face him for good.
Heh! @Welmaris, have a good sleep!
I just wandered back to Episode 17 (I forgot what it was about) and saw that one of the answers to what I said above was shown. IE, we do not yet see this in the early episodes but the way that Sung Moo first entered ‘W’ was the same way that YJ got pulled in. IE KC reached through the portal next to him and yanked first the father who stabbed him, then the daughter who saved him LOL. What a trio!!!
Thanks @WE! I have to read the script slowly. Yes, the possible rules of entering ‘W’ and leaving it keep needing to be checked. As usual, what you say sounds entirely plausible. That first portal with the psychic connection… not something that SJJ actually mentioned, I guess, but that’s how the inter-world travel had to begin.
@GB, Thankfully, I had no problem with the drama, even when I saw things I didn’t understand or possibly illogical. It was too late to stop my enthusiasm!!! I was just blown away by the situations, the new plot-twists that go on and on, and the exceptional density. After reaching episode 8, the drama was already pure genius for me. So whatever was next, I was open to it, and I just wanted to enjoy it all. The drama was great and I already had the proof with the first part, because everything was coherent, or almost. I never meet anything more clever in Fiction, just with the first part. I certainly wasn’t going to let my misunderstandings ruin the fun during second part. 🙂 On the contrary, after finishing the first binge-watch without sleeping… I just slept and rewatched the drama immediately after!!! Then I rewatched it several times, or I looked for specific scenes to understand better. Especially episode 12 which is very dense in explanation, but also concentrated and too fast explanations. I was completely passionate beyond all reason! It was the ultimate masterpiece that I had been dreaming of watching for years. I had been stuck on another “ultimate work” type drama for 7 years (The Japanese version of Liar Game). Now I don’t know if I’ll find something as excellent one day… 🙂 🙂 🙂
@WE, would you be interested in doing a rewatch of the Korean Liar Game?
Our rewatch will end in 6 or 7 weeks… never too early to root around for another excuse to continue the party!!
Good grief… did you not sleep in 16 hours? What year was this?
I guess for me, it was a case of 2 shows a week while it aired, hence I became embittered over the lack of explanation and what seemed like changing logic.
@GB, I don’t remember the year. Should be 2017. 2010 to 2019, I never watched a drama on-air, just binge-watch. First one I watched on-air was Memories of the Alhambra, where I meet Pm3 on Soompi MOTA thread.
Yeah, I started W at something like 4pm or 5pm. So I watched late afternoon, night, to next morning!! I was on holidays.
Korean Liar Game: No!!! It’s sooooo bad if we compare to the original japanese one.
Never watch that if you didn’t watched the original, it wastes the situations without being able to render it greatly. But as a standalone, the korean version isn’t so bad. It’s bad only when we compare, and because it spoil the original.
Kalo mesimeri!
I do hope you are all okay. I have a toddler with me today, so I don’t know if I am going to be able to type a lot. Still, I am planning to rewatch this episode with you!
Hi @Cleo! Is that your niece or nephew? How old?
Glad you’ll join us anyway!
13 minutes and counting!
Hey @GB Unnie!
She is my niece and she is 3…
She is playing so far, but I don’t know how she will behave during the episode!
@Cleo, so you’re baby-sitting her while her parents are out?
@GB Unnie,
Yes!
Hi @GB and @Cleo!!
Hey @WE!
Question: How is your weather over there @GB Unnie and @WE?
Blue sky with clouds.
Weather? Humid night. Need the a/c now and then. We just switched it off and have the fan on now, but if it gets too stuffy, we may have to put it on again. The air is warm outside.
We have heat for the third in a row. At least yesterday the tempeture was lower at some point…
Correction: Third day!
Okay time to start! Let’s go…..
@GB Unnie, I haven’t used the a/c at home. I have open windows for the most of the day. Anyway. It is not something bearable, humidity that is!
Do we start?
Resume with piano goosebump music. 🙂
Started…
The nice long recap at the start of each episode brings up up to scratch. YJ can guess what happened when he KC ran away. From the way she speaks he starts to figure out that she knows him, but he does not understand what she’s even saying LOL.
Let’s rewatch the tear kiss. 😉
This kiss with the tear is so beautiful. I really liked it. It startled KC.
@WE I only noticed the piano music because you mentioned it. LOL.
Off goes YJ. Luckily the kiss worked.
Hi all! We just had an early morning thunder storm; luckily past. we will be heating up in the next few days.
@Cleo the tear convinced KC that she was much more than just a thief and stranger.
And now, YJ is trying to make a medicine stash for KC!
Look, Yeon Joo has her bag (+medical stuff)
Dear Friends, I haven’t read the whole story up to this point but I guess if I delay getting back then I will miss this watch. So let’s GO!!! 😀
Hi @salteddust! Hi @FGB, so glad to see that you’ve got Internet today.
Yeon JO ..; waaaaahhhhhhh RUN AWAY!!!!! XD
LOL, both YJ and Soo Bong scream in the same way and ran away!!
This comedy scene, awesome. when Soo-Bong jump and make Jump the doctor. ^^^^^^^^^^^^ So live.
Creepy music starts when YJ sees the Goya postcard
I have also to deal with the toddler not watching Jakkanim’s no face….
Hello @Salteddust and @FGB!
@FGB how are you?
Hi FGB and Salteddust!!
@WE, I laugh each time everyone jumps when SB screams. Now poor doctor is going to have SB sticking to him like chewing gum.
So scary, YJ trying to get the tablet without her father knowing… didn’t work …
The policeman is so impolite when he trow away SO Hee. tooooo.
@Cleo, oh dear is your niece also watching the show. Yeah, she may get nightmares!!! Too scary-exciting, though of course, she’ll not understand it.
@WE, I thought the same thing. When KC was respected, his people were respected. When he is thought to be a criminal, his people are treated like dirt.
Loved how the door is erased, literally
Love the scene with Soo-bong on the phone at the hospital and Seok-beom cautiously looking out the door at the crazy man in the corridor.
The screenwriter showed detail, like blood on the ground, as it should be the way Kang Chul will be discovered. But what fun… erased by Yeon Joo!! a bit meta, what should be the usual conclusion in a movie is twisted.
@GB Unnie,
She was playing, but she wants to be with me and she comes around. So she is watching the policemen and asking questions why Kang Chul is hurt…LOL
Yes, Yeon Joo did a remarkable job to erase all the traces!
Yeon Joo was able to fight faceless Sung-Moo. But I think he isn’t really dangerous by himself. Poor guy is old-school zombie, except he can’t even bite.
It’s interesting that YJ managed to lock her father outside the room.
Fortunately she could draw so fast. Before the Killer got wind of it and came to get her.
@GB Unnie,
I just saw your comment about the tear. True!
@Cleo: show W to a 3 year-old child, she will be genious later and invent faster-than-light spaceship drive, lol!!
The music and the sounds of the fight and the slow pan back of the camera contribute to the tension when YJ fights for the tablet.
LOLOL @WE a zombie without a mouth to bite.
@Cleo, YJ even thought of an alarm clock to wake him up to take the medication and remove the bullet himself (so painful ugh!!)
@W She is asking too many questions. But I am not letting her see the scary parts of course!
@GB, yeah, Yeon Joo is very clever when it’s about unrealistic and manhwa plots, lol!! She understood most of any weird thing from W logic.
The killer found out that Yeon Joo was on the tablet! She is going to turn it off. Phew that was close!
The moment Yeon Joo closed the tablet that moment her father stopped banging his head on the door.
So here, the scene with killer. Lack of logic (or explanation), but just very good about visual effect.
Only, the CGI isn’t really good in this scene. Only detail that couldn’t do very well the director. Look like hard to do.
Notice faceless sung-moo faint when the tablet is on OFF.
Poor KC looks so exhausted
I think Suk-Bum agree to stick with Soo-Bong mostly because he’s curious about Sung-Moo workshop.
LOL the laughter when YJ vanishes again… poor SB and doctor friend.
So Han Cheon Ho accidentally summoned her because he’s looking for her.
Dear Friends, I am OK but I guess I’ve been a little down. When that happens I have a bad Asperger tendency to get lost in myself. That is why in part I have tried to at least greet you on Saturdays. Sorry!!! 🙂
@GB, sorry for dissapearing!!! ^_^U
@Cleo, happy to read you, so I guess COVID is wayyy behind you! 😀
@WEnch, happy to read you!!!
@Welmaris, how do you do?, looking forward for your analysis 😀
@Salteddust, looking forward to read you!
Most of the answers are in the episode, dialogs, details. Just it’s very difficult to spot when the drama is so fast paced and crazy.
Like here, dialog with Soo-Bong / Yeon-Joo.
@GB, Soo-Bong nervous laugh after she disapear, just gold!! 🙂
@Cleo and @GB I thought in the last episode that KC was wiping away his own tear; this time I saw it fall from YJ’s face. You can see the confusion on KC’s face, but also you get the sense that although we know by now that he is very logical and will try to figure this out, he is just too exhausted. I don’t know if I am reading this in or if it is superb actimg by Lee Jong-suk
@GB Unnie,
True!
@FGB, Yes I am way better!
Now Suk Bum cannot get rid of SB.
YJ is stuck in ‘W’ again. And she didn’t even get to change her clothes or shower LOL. She’s been wearing the same outfit since last episode and was 7 days in ‘W’ without a home or proper meals.
First seconds of view and I am thrown into a killer scene (quite literally). So there is a second “father”?
Fast forward for another time…
@GB, at this point, we can say it… Yeon Joo smell bad. It’s why at the end of the episode, Kang Chul say her: go to take a shower. LOL!!!
@salteddust, I’m sure the pain and loss of blood has taken its toll on KC. Yes he was exhausted.
I’m at the place where YJ has a whole month pass by her in a blink. Now she’s going to be exhausted, like last time when she spent many days in ‘W’ and went back to the real world.
I thought so last time, YJ is very clever to change not only the license plate but the color of the car. Just like the door disappearing; within the context of reality, doors that disappear and cars that change colors within less than 24 hours with no signs of construction or wet paint are beyond the ability of the minor characters to imagine (just as they would be if we were the characters – ha ha)
Hi @FG! Nice to hear from you again!
@Salteddust no it was Yeon Joo’s tear. As @GB Unnie said, Kang Chul could sense that she was not stranger to him…
I am in the same mark @GB Unnie. Yeon Joon is looking for Kang Chul!
Also very cleaver of YJ to take care of the police procedural drawings first, then start drawing the medication.
Yeon-Joo / Do-Yoon scene. Listen at this BGM!!
And so good acting from Hyo-Joo.
So-Hee as passion for red wine. She get drunk only with that. So snobish, lololol. And in Kang Chul penthouse, there is a whole wall of red wine bottles.
@FGB, YJ’s father drew the Killer and gave the killer a face similar to his own. But the Killer realises that he and father share a soul and took over his face entirely. So only 1 of them can be fully whole. If Killer has the face, then father becomes faceless. If the drawing tablet is on there is a connection between Killer and father, otherwise the father will lose consciousness. So the manhwa world has really ‘eaten’ father as he feared.
He had the pic of Saturn devouring his son, but it was not KC who devoured him, but the ‘Killer son’ he drew.
I think as long So-Hee don’t hear about Kang Chul / Yeon Joo relationship, she’s safe from diseapering.
…and they meet again!
@Cleo: with the song where the lyric are “we will meet again”, lol!
@We this is so meta meta! LOL
Again, the so good chronology dispatch, with the following of scene where Kang Chul heal.
Healing scene with the piano goosebump music, I forgot to say. 🙂
I always get behind on these watches – it takes me too long to type I guess. I am really enjoying Lee Si-eon’s comedic acting this time; I do not think I have ever laughed so often at a sympathetic character who is afraid. He is so funny, just as he and Seok-beom walk through the gate at the studio.
Kang Chul touch the wall… something impossible here.. but he keep his cool. Same with the car. After the gun in hand, he’s ok for impossible things, just sight a bit. Ballsy hero.
Kang Chul is testing Yeon Joo…
Teasing Kang Chul. He does what he readed in the manhwa, with some allusions…
Yeon Joo is alarmed. What is this?
Pay-off of the 4 romantic act situation. (flashabck!)
So huge plot-twist.. SHOWS volume 34. WHHAHAHAHAH!!
@WE that was precious!
The whole setting reminds me of a manhwa…LOL
I’m speechless, even it’s 20x I rewatch this serie of reverse flashbacks.
Tome 34 are episode 1-8 of the drama, tome 35 is what happen next. 😉
Note: it was important for the story that Kang Chul spend too much time to know about the manhwa phenomena. 3 episodes was already long. So in the faster way: Kang Chul is now operational on the situation!!
This Kang Chul 2.0 is different from the Kang Chul 1.0 we were watching until episode 9…
“Don’t spend”, sorry, I missed a word.
I’ve come to the end of the episode. And I’m too sleepy suddenly.
How’s everyone else doing?
@Cleo: Kang Chul 2.0 have a great advantage, he readed all the mistake done by Kang Chul 1.0 in the manhwa. As he’s still Kang Chul, just do what he can now with full information. Just the same one deep inside.
I have also finished the episode @GB Unnie!
I realized you were not commenting! Have a good night’s sleep!
@Cleo, KC2 has seen the appearing gun and disappearing door, so he’s been pre-empted that his world is not all that it has seemed to be.
I think next episode should have more action. Maybe I’ll be more awake. But I’ll have been 4 days doing a retreat… will probably be tired. LOL, see how it goes.
OK good night all! Read you later!
@Cleo, I hope your niece can sleep well tonight after all the play and ‘W’.
Bye everyone!
Good night, goodbye every one!!
@GB Unnie,
I hope that too. She didn’t see the weird scenes. I was telling her not to look and she didn’t…
Kalinixta to you!
Good night @GB. I have to cut out now also; my sister will call in the next 10 minutes. We hope to make summer plans to finally see one another again after 2 years! I will finish up later today. Have a good week everyone.
I am still where the police is about to get the ML. Kind of liked the father without a face and it seemed like an allegory of her father’s more destructive impulses getting incarnated. She recognizes it as a wraith of her father but she can’t reconcile the image of her loving if depressed father with this monstruous behaviour.
It seems like I will need more context AKA full viewing of the intervening episodes I missed D:
@Welmaris. I realized when I was rereading the comments after I came back and finished the last 10 minutes of Ep 11, that I had always thought that part of a character starting to disappear was that they themselves lost confidence that they were important. So when So-Hee no longer has any chance of being KC’s love interest she no longer views herself as having any agency. In Episode 11, she has come to terms with KC’s “death”; she has not lost her position as KC’s love interest; rather he has ‘died’, so she can move on. Although I remember being confused at this point when I first watched it at KC’s arm starting to disappear, I now think that after reading the comic book, volume 34 he is starting to realize he may be a character himself. And like So-Hee he knows his own view of himself might be wrong; he is no longer as important as he thought. In the real world he would be majorly depressed; here part of his arm disappears. Although, being KC he just switches to the other arm, like it is simply one more thing he has to deal with. Such a singularly strong character. Unlike the earlier episode where he hears it from YJ but has had lots of time to work out the rules without actually coming to the conclusion that he is a comic character; here I think he is in the middle of working it out. Plus he is on the run, no longer a hero, his own self-image would have suffered some; you see on Lee Jong-suk’s face that he is in pain that his mentor thinks he might have killed his family; there is also the suggestion (maybe in my head) that he wonders if he has some sort of amnesia and may have actually killed them. Also the flashbacks at the end of this episode seem to come from KC’s perspective, from his brain, as though he simultaneously remembered them as he read of them; as if what actually happened to him is still a part of his subconscious (as YJ was earlier).
Yeon-Joo sees her father faceless.
One change: in the drama, Yeon-Joo screams when she is in the bedroom. The script cuts the scene and shows her screaming when she is in the living room.
Goya’s card is on the floor, but not torn (logical with the script of the previous episode).
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#7. Sung Moo’s Studio (Night)
Yeon Joo, if you look into it, Sung Moo is sitting in a chair with her back to her desk.
YEON JOO – (!! Relieved to see Sung Moo doing well) Dad…
SUNG MOO – (No answer)
YEON JOO – (Pauses at the postcard that fell on the floor as you entered)
Like a horrific picture that Sung Moo dropped to the floor hinting.
YEON JOO – …… (walking past the postcard) Dad, why did you do that..? You said it would end with a happy ending. Why are you killing everyone?
SUNG MOO – (No answer)
YEON JOO – (He bursts out of anger when there is no answer) Why are you framing Kang Chul..? Please just make me a little happy..! (still no answer) Dad…! Are you listening? (He gets closer and pauses)
Sung Moo’s black hand rested on the armrest of the chair, and then he saw it.
YEON JOO – Dad…? (Shocking in fear, he approaches Sung Moo and looks at his expression)
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#8. Sung Moo’s Living Room (Night)
Yeon Joo screams in the empty living room, and then Yeon Joo jumps out in surprise.
Just like Soo Bong, he gets the same shock and runs out in confusion.
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#9. In front of Sung Moo’s house (night)
Yeon Joo runs out of the yard. I’m so scared I don’t know what to do…
At this point, the phone rings in the bag.
Soo-Bong panics.
Scene 11, the script uses an INTERCUT, to indicate that during the conversation, the image jumps from one character to another, in two different places. The Korean scripting standard makes this easy enough, without the need to use the INTERCUT keyword and then “/” between the two locations (western format). Just a “+” instead.
Scene 13, the visual gag of Soo-Bong and Suk-Bum jumping up is perfectly described, and well understood since the actors play it perfectly.
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#10. Thoracic Surgery Clinic (Night)
Meanwhile, Soo Bong, who came to the hospital in search of Yeon Joo.
I’m scared, shaking and crying, I’m out of my mind… Suk Bum and Nurse Kim are looking at me strangely.
SOO BONG – (He puts his phone to his ear) Hello? Where is your sister? I came to the hospital, why not?
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#11. In front of Sung Moo’s house + Thoracic Surgery Clinic (Night)
YEON JOO – (Because I was contemplating) I came to the studio and Dad… what happened?
SOO BONG – (so small that other people can’t hear it) Did you see it..? The teacher’s face is gone..!!
YEON JOO – Yeah.. What happened…?!
SOO BONG – (Like a crazy person) I have no eyes, nose and mouth..! Nothing..!
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#12. Reminiscence – Sung Moo’s Workshop (Night)
Soo Bong, who had fainted, suddenly opened his eyes.
Soo Bong sits up and sees Sung Moo bowing his head and holding a pen and working on something.
The subtitles are floating in the air.. {Shoot the general manager in the heart}
Soo Bong, ….??!
{Putting a pistol in Kang Chul’s hand}
Subtitles keep popping up quickly…
Soo Bong, I can’t see you anymore and run away from Honbi Baeksan saying, uh…
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#13. In front of Sung Moo’s house + Thoracic Surgery Clinic (Night)
YEON JOO – (…!!)
SOO BONG – I just drew something like crazy…, just as the letters tell me…
YEON JOO – So… the story that my father wrote according to the order of the real criminal, is that…?
SOO BONG – I don’t know what… I don’t know what it is… I’m so scared of myself… (crying)
YEON JOO – (confused) What happened to your father then…? Is your dad the real culprit?
Then I’m over there…
SOO BONG – I don’t know either…!! So, come here first, sister. Because it’s dangerous there.
YEON JOO – Kang Chul got shot..! I might die if I let it go!
SOO BONG – Oh, and then my sister dies first! Because the teacher is not the teacher!
SUK BUM/NURSE KIM – (looks surprised at what?!
SOO BONG – That’s not a teacher, it’s just a shell..!
YEON JOO – (…!)
SOO BONG – Come here first! Hurry up! Lock the door! (I’m scared, so I hang up the phone and catch my breath)
SUK BUM – (Coming over) Yeon Joo is going to die…? What does that mean… (Let’s put our hands on the shoulder)
SOO BONG – (Screaming and paroxysmal) Aaaaaaaah
SUK BUM – Uh-oh-oh-oh (more surprised)
Yeon Joo hangs up the phone, hesitates for a moment, then stands…
You can’t just stay, go into the road.
Yeon-Joo takes the tablet.
The drama stops the scene when Yeon-Joo is grabbed by her father’s hand. Then, just the sounds of an anxious struggle from the deserted living room.
In the script, Yeon-Joo reaches the living room with the tablet, but is caught.
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#14. Sung Moo’s Living Room (Night)
Yeon Joo approaches the studio trembling in fear.
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#15. Sung Moo’s Studio (Night)
Yeon Joo, cautiously re-enters.
Sung Moo, sitting still quietly by the window with the chair turned back.
Yeon Joo carefully holds her breath and goes towards the tablet.
Sung Moo doesn’t move.. Yeon Joo, a cold sweat is flowing and she’s scared and she’s about to cry…
With trembling hands, he glanced at him and went to the front of the desk and took the tablet in his hand.
The moment I unplugged the power cord… Suddenly, Sung Moo’s black hand grabbed Yeon Joo’s hand.
Yeon Joo, …..!!!!!
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#16. Sung Moo’s Living Room (Night)
With a loud bang, Yeon Joo runs out with a tablet, but Yeon Joo falls to the floor with a black hand grabbing her ankle, and the tablet crashes on the floor.
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CGI of erasures.
The writer indicates in the script that these are special effects with (CG).
She indicates the appearance that it has “eraser effect”. Then she does not repeat the appearance of the effect (probably to gain conciseness).
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#30. motel hallway (night)
Police 4,5 are heading to room 518…
Door 518, suddenly starts to be erased quickly like an eraser effect (CG)
Police officers 4 and 5 came and stood in front of Room 518, and their expressions.
In a few seconds, there is no room where it should be and only the wallpaper is visible.
Police 4,5 ???
Meanwhile, the bloodstains on the carpet on the floor where the police 4,5 are standing (CG)
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#31. motel room (night)
Kang Chul, holding his breath with all his might, barely pointing the gun at the front door.
But the doorbell doesn’t ring.
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#32. motel hallway (night)
POLICE5 – No. 518… isn’t it? (View the accommodation list again)
POLICE4 – Let’s go. (Go first)
POLICE5 – What.. Wrong? (It’s a bit strange in structure, so we tilt and follow)
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#33. motel room (night)
POLICE4 – (to the radio, E) I checked on the 5th floor. Go up to the 6th floor.
KANG CHUL – (…?!)
Kang Chul, who was nervous as he was aiming the gun with his trembling hand, as the policemen’s voice became distant.. He lost the gun he was holding and collapsed.
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#34. Motel Elevator (Night)
Police 4 and 5 were going up in the elevator, but there was a CCTV camera on it.
suddenly disappears (CG)
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#35. Motel Parking (Night)
Police 6 comes out to the parking lot in a raincoat.
While holding a flashlight to check the license plate, Kang Chul’s license plate, which was parked in the corner, suddenly changes. (CG)
Then the color of the car starts to change. (CG)
The killer grabs Yeon-Joo by the tablet.
Scene 46, the killer looks up. We don’t know if he sees something, probably not. The script indicates that he feels something. Like a kind of 6th sense due to the fact that he is psychically connected with Sung-Moo. He can sense the presence of someone near the tablet on the other side.
No more details on how the killer puts his hands seen from his side, unfortunately. It’s possible that the writer was planning a small dimensional portal but that it wasn’t written in due to the CGI budget. We noticed that some effects were not done in the drama (like Oh Sung-Moo being a black silhouette, the killer coming out of the mirror, etc). There is an economic constraint, and the screenwriter takes it into account when writing her script.
It is likely that the killer has some sort of “portable” access to the tablet. The ability to reach out to the other world, no matter where he is. Mainly because of the psychic connection.
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#45. Sung Moo’s Studio (Night)
Yeon Joo and finally Kang Chul are drawing a skin stapler (suture tool).
Outside, there is a constant squeaking noise.
Yeon Joo, trembling with anxiety and almost finished, the subtitles suddenly popped up.
{Who are you?}
Yeon Joo, stop…!!
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#46. Jinbeom’s apartment living room (night)
Sung Moo (the real criminal) was cleaning up his new automatic rifle while the news about Kang Chul was on. He feels an unfamiliar energy and is staring into the air.
SUNG MOO – You… (sharpening) Are you Oh Yeon Joo?
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#47. Sung Moo’s studio + Jinbeom’s apartment living room (Night)
{Are you Oh Yeon Joo?}
Yeon Joo, ….!! While holding the pen and staring at the tablet, the tablet suddenly turns white and Sung Moo’s hand pops out. (dress like the bathroom)
Yeon Joo, !!!!! grabbing right by the neck.
{Are you Oh Yeon Joo?} {When did you go out?}
Yeon Joo, !!! I tried to pick up the knife on the desk, but my hand couldn’t reach it, and when I squeezed my neck,
I suddenly turn off the power button on the tablet, but the moment the power button is turned off, my hand suddenly disappears.
Yeon Joo, ….!!!
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#48. Sung Moo’s Living Room (Night)
Sung Moo, who was knocking on the door, suddenly stopped moving.
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#49. Jinbeom’s apartment living room (night)
Sung Moo touched his hand in surprise, as if he had been electrocuted, as his hand was forcefully thrown out.
I couldn’t feel anything as if I was bewildered, communication was cut off.
Yeon-Joo disappears into the bedroom.
Soo-Bong’s reaction at the end is foreseen in the script, but suggested in a subtle way. The actor turned the given inner reaction (a kind of mental laughter) into a real skit, with laughter, finger pointing to the empty place, etc.
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#57. Sung Moo’s Studio (Night)
YEON JOO – It suddenly became quiet when I turned off the tablet..
SOO BONG – Why? If I turn off the power, does that mean I can’t communicate with him?
YEON JOO – Go like that… I don’t know…
SOO BONG – But what should I do? Teacher now…? That’s not a teacher…?
YEON JOO – (with troubled hair) I was trying to turn it into a dream… Just like last time.
SOO BONG – Dream..? (Surprised) Oh, that’s fine! dream! How about going back to the old days?
Kang Chul When I was young!! Before the Kang Chul family died 10 years ago!
A dream I had before the real culprit even appeared..! Then you cut off the buds!
YEON JOO – But (pointing to the tablet) I can’t turn it on.
The real culprit is just waiting to turn it on, how…?
SOO BONG – (…!)
YEON JOO – I can’t draw anything with that right now.
SOO BONG – (It gets serious) So what should I do…?
YEON JOO – (covering face and sighing)
At this time, Suk Bum opens the door slightly and knocks.
SUK BUM – Hey, can I come in?
SOO BONG – (Looking back at those words)
Suk Bum comes in.
SUK BUM – (?) Oh, this is your father’s room~ (and) How about Yeon Joo?
SOO BONG – It’s here. (Like asking what)
SUK BUM – Where are you?
Soo Bong, looking back, Yeon Joo disappeared again in an instant.
SOO BONG – (!! hahaha)
SUK BUM – Where are you? (Looking around)
SOO BONG – (Face)
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Yeon-Joo in the time acceleration.
There are few visual details, just the fact that time is accelerating. The details are added by the director who understands the situation well. He does this by showing quick cuts of various places in time acceleration.
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#66. In front of the National Assembly (Night – Day)
Yeon Joo, wearing an umbrella and looking around.
YEON JOO – (whispering) It’s only two hours past 11 o’clock…?
Right before we parted, Kang Chul from the motel room comes to mind.
The thought that if you follow me right away, I can be cured, there is hope.
I go out to the side of the road to catch a taxi, and I stand by the taxi.
At this time, in the eyes of Yeon Joo… Suddenly, the surroundings begin to spin, and time begins to pass quickly. (Same as episode 2) Yeon Joo, ….???!!
Yeon Joo, with the umbrella on, time flies before you can do anything.
it was a bright day.
Yeon Joo, come to your senses, you are alone in broad daylight in midsummer with an umbrella
I can see the National Assembly building in front of me, and cars are rushing along the roadside.
Yeon Joo, …!! Realizing that time has passed, he panics and folds his umbrella.
Yeon-Joo and the white wall.
Yeon-Joo doesn’t know that erasing the door outside didn’t erase it inside. So she is afraid that Kang Chul is dead locked in the room. The actress’ reaction suggests this. However, the script called for a more explicit visual to convey her anguish. Scene 72, she imagines Kang Chul’s dead body. The script is better here, especially since in Scene 73, Yeon-Joo panics. She then becomes reassured when she sees that the car has disappeared.
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#71. motel hallway (daytime)
Yeon Joo gets out of the elevator and hurries to the end of the hallway.
At the end of the hallway that Yeon Joo removed with wallpaper, it is still blocked with wallpaper.
Yeon Joo, ….?! I try to knock on the wall just in case
YEON JOO – Are you there…? (Tapping) Answer me… are you there…?
No answer. The door is gone and I can’t get in.
Suddenly, as the man at the convenience store said, his imagination flashed through his mind.
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#72. Imagine – Motel Room (Night)
A cut from Kang Chul’s leg spread across the bed.
With pants and shoes on, just like the last time I saw you.
It’s rotten and flies are entangled in it.
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#73. motel hallway (daytime)
I thought I might have died while being trapped inside..!!!
Yeon Joo, suddenly going crazy.
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#74. motel parking lot (daytime)
Yeon Joo, rushing out and looking around, there’s an empty parking lot.
Kang Chul’s car, which he changed color, is not visible.
Realizing that Kang Chul has left, Yeon Joo sits down in relief.
Yeon-Joo meets Do-Yoon.
The emotions are well conveyed, but more, there is a mini time shift in the order of the scenes (from memory, this was done in a linear way in the drama).
Even in a short period of time, the non-linear chronological organization is exploited.
The conversation with Do-Yoon stops prematurely to go directly to the bus. Then, voice-over, then flashback to the end of the conversation.
The linear construction of the drama offers a better opportunity to place the song! The song starts when Yeon-Joo leaves Do-Yoon. In a discreet way (music only) at the beginning. Too much dialogue afterwards would be hard to get through.
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#78. Penthouse Entrance (afternoon)
Yeon Joo, tired and exhausted, is standing leaning against the wall.
(Like episode 3, a month passed before my eyes and my stamina dropped)
At this time, when Do Yoon appeared immediately, Yeon Joo, !!!
DO YOON – (singing a long song) Oh Yeon Joo…?
YEON JOO – (Greetings) Yes…
DO YOON – (Come to me in surprise) Oh Yeon Joo, right? The police were looking for you, but why now
YEON JOO – I have some circumstances..
DO YOON – But why me…
YEON JOO – Mr. Kang Chul.. just in case you know what happened..
DO YOON – …..!
YEON JOO – I haven’t seen you since then.. just in case you know the news..
DO YOON – (shout) How do I know where that friend is? I can’t even find the police.
YEON JOO – (! Desperate for that word)
DO YOON – (looks over) What’s your relationship with CEO Kang?
YEON JOO – (tears dripping down) No… it’s not a relationship.
DO YOON – But why…
YEON JOO – Just.. I wonder if he’s alive.. Is he alive… (I tried to stay calm, but ended up crying) He must have died.. The last time I saw him, I got hurt a lot…
(Tears overflowing) I didn’t just leave it alone… because I didn’t have enough medicine…
DO YOON – …… (Watching him cry, pulls out a notebook from his inner pocket and writes something)
YEON JOO – (He bows his head and weeps, but Do Yoon rips his notebook and shuffles it out.)
DO YOON – (lowly) Come here. I’ll contact you.
YEON JOO – (Let’s look at the paper with the address and bus stop name written on it)
DO YOON – (lower) Representative Kang was always looking for Oh Yeon Joo.
YEON JOO – (!!!)
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#79. National Road (Night)
A bus running on a country road.
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#80. in the bus (night)
Yeon Joo is on a bus with few passengers.
Yeon Joo and Do Yoon sit exhausted holding a note with the address written on them.
DO YOON – (E) I have to go at night instead. During the day, he can’t move.
YEON JOO – ……
DO YOON – (E) And I’ll ask you a favor.
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#81. Reminiscence – Penthouse Elevator (Daytime)
Do Yoon standing outside and begging Yeon Joo to get into the elevator with a note.
DO YOON – I don’t know what kind of relationship you have with Kang, but when you meet, please suggest me to embroider.
YEON JOO – (…!)
DO YOON – (Sighs) There is no way I can hold on. You must surrender quickly to receive a commutation.
I can’t help you any more.
YEON JOO – ……
At this time, the front door opened and Soo Hee came out with a box.
DO YOON – Please persuade me. (Releasing the door you were holding on to)
YEON JOO – (Face)
The elevator closes.
SOO HEE – Who are you..?
DO YOON – (pretending not to know) Hotel staff.
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#82. in the bus (night)
Yeon Joo returns from reminiscences.
It makes me sad that no one believes in Kang Chul’s innocence anymore.
At this time, I saw the stop in front of me, Yeon Joo, ?! Press the get-off bell immediately.
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Continuation of the situation.
Here there is a song. Again, we see that the script leaves a time margin for this.
Use of “dissolve over time”. There are a few lines of description that could have been condensed much more quickly. However, since the text in the script also helps to get the impression of time passing, various details are given. It takes five lines when two would have been enough in a different context.
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#83. National highway bus stop (night)
Yeon Joo gets off the bus. The bus is leaving.
A rural grandmother is standing.
YEON JOO – Grandma. This is in front of the Sinori Village Hall, right?
GRANDMA – That’s right.
Yeon Joo, standing and waiting in relief.
Dissolve over time…
Yeon Joo, too tired, is squatting on a stone. no grandma
I looked around at the clock, but Kang Chul didn’t show up. There are no cars passing by.
I’m nervous because I think I didn’t know the place well.
Moments later, a car approaches with its headlights on.
Yeon Joo, I’m dazzled by the thought, but the car comes and stops next to Yeon Joo.
Yeon Joo,…..?! I’m getting up…
The car window opens and Kang Chul sits in the driver’s seat and looks out.
Yeon Joo, …..!!!
Kang Chul, an old t-shirt with a pressed hat and as inconspicuous as possible, jeans.
YEON JOO – (…!!!)
KANG CHUL – (looks at Yeon Joo for a moment with a strange look) Oh Yeon Joo.
YEON JOO – (Face)
KANG CHUL – (Smiles) It’s been a while.
YEON JOO – (…!!! I can’t speak because I think tears will come out if I open my mouth)
KANG CHUL – (becking his head) Take a ride.
YEON JOO – (Face)
Kang Chul takes care of himself.
First of all, I show a previous scene in the episode.
The writer says {Recall Insert}. Curiously, she doesn’t indicate “MONTAGE”, even though she uses a montage. She could also have indicated the montage in the scene header, or written a new scene after 42. The situation leaves us in suspense.
Here, choice of a time shift, rather than showing the end of the situation.
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#42. motel room (night)
Kang Chul is lying unconscious with the pistol dropped.
The thunder continues to roar, and the lightning flashes.
Memories like hallucinations pass by like fragments in a state of excitement…
{Recall Insert}
C#1. The gruesome slaughter scene in the studio
C#2. Video of Sung Moo laughing at Kang Chul
C#3. Kang Chul’s living room (from episode 5)
Kang Chul’s gaze, the bodies of his parents and younger brothers lying in the living room…
C#4. Hospital room (in episode 11, 42 scenes)
KANG CHUL – Do you… doubt me…?
HYUN SUK – I want to know the truth.
C#5. Hospital room (in episode 11, 40 scenes)
Then he died with his eyes open,
The last appearance of Hyun Suk, who met the same fate as his family.
Kang Chul’s eyes are wet with tears from the nightmare…
‘I can’t..’, ‘Teacher’, ‘I’m not..’ I muttered inaudible…
Meanwhile, a vial of antibiotics suddenly appears on the bed. (CG)
Then there are painkillers vials, and then injections, tweezers, sap packs and blood packs, Ringer’s needles, and so on… Then the alarm goes off.
Kang Chul, who was lost in the hallucinations, barely opens his eyes as the alarm gets louder.
With blurred eyes… I see a small alarm clock next to my hand. Kang Chul, reflexively presses the alarm to turn it off, and then sees there are pills next to him.
KANG CHUL – (I thought Yeon Joo was back) Oh Yeon Joo…? (as if relieved) Is it you..?
But no answer…
I barely press the button to turn on the bed stand, but Yeon Joo is nowhere to be seen.
I never thought I would be waiting so eagerly for a woman who only knew her name.
KANG CHUL – Hey.. (Lonely feeling) Answer me.. Where are you…?
But there are no signs…
Kang Chul’s hazy gaze sees a letter placed among the pills.
Yeon Joo’s message quickly emerges in the letter… (at an angle that Kang Chul doesn’t see)
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Later in the episode, resolution of the situation when Kang Chul drives his car.
The scene allows to explain how Kang Chul cured himself. Proximity between the characters thanks to the text of the letter switched to voice-over.
Curiously, this is not shown as a MONTAGE, even though it is short moments spaced in time. Usually, SJJ uses a montage. This is pretty clear though, thanks to the use of “CUT”. I find it more disturbing when the scene switches to “dissolve the next day”. Here, it is of course a scene change!
The end of the scene may not be so understandable in the drama (and hard to get across). Kang Chul understands that the message is not a fake. So from a supernatural phenomenon probably. Like the gun, like the strange way that Yeon-Joo has to help him. It is important as we will see the following extracts…
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#86. Reminiscence – motel room (night – day)
The rain continues outside…
Kang Chul, who was lying down with the letter in his hand.. He lost his blood and seemed to be dying.
At this time, Kang Chul suddenly wakes up to the sound of thunder.
KANG CHUL – (Laughs) Oh Yeon Joo…?
When there was no answer, I stood there blankly… The letter in my hand caught my eye…
I have no strength, so I lie down and look at the letter close to my eyes.
YEON JOO – (E) Get up and wake up.
KANG CHUL – (…!)
YEON JOO – (E) I can’t help you right now. So you have to treat yourself.
please wake up
KANG CHUL – …… (I don’t know when he came and left this)
Kang Chul sits up hard after jumping out of the cut. looking at the letter
YEON JOO – (E) I couldn’t get an injection earlier because I didn’t have antibiotics. Look for antibiotics.
Kang Chul finds antibiotics while looking through the letters among the piles of drugs on the bed.
YEON JOO – (E) It should be given intravenously. Follow what I say.
A cut looking at the letter, tearing the syringe and inserting it into the antibiotic vial to take out the injection.
A cut that puts the injection directly into one’s arm.
YEON JOO – (E) When I saw it earlier, there were three shards in it. Even if it hurts, you have to take it out yourself.
A cut to untie the bandage.
Cut to check the local anesthetic while looking at the letter and pick it up.
It is being pulled out with tweezers while being reflected in a medical mirror…
In the middle, it was hard, rested, and then again.
Bullet shards piled up one by one on the bed.
YEON JOO – (E) Even with sutures…
The gap is tightly sutured with a skin stapler.
Just put the bandage back on…
YEON JOO – (E) It’s over. Thanks for your work.
As soon as the last knot is tied, Kang Chul, spread out.
Dissolve the next day. The sun comes in through the curtains.
Kang Chul, who has become clearer, is lying in bed, listening to voice files repeatedly on Hyun Suk’s cell phone like a machine.
YOUNG KANG CHUL – (E) Don’t care!! What is your father?!
KANG CHUL DAD – (E) This came in after drinking alcohol! this child!!
The sound of a slap on the cheek and the sound of Kang Chul falling.
YOUNG KANG CHUL – (E) Why are you hitting me?! If you touch me one more time, you won’t be able to stand still!!
KANG CHUL MOM – (E) Honey, stop it!! Cheolah, stop it!!
KANG CHUL DAD – (E) Hey bastard, get out! you never come back! I’m not even a child of a guy like you, so cut the ties! Until now, people like you are called children (I say gunshots bang!!)
KANG CHUL MOM – (E) Honey…!! (Screaming screams)
Kang Chul, heard over and over again without any expression.
YOUNG KANG CHUL – (E) Why are you hitting me?! If you touch me one more time, you won’t be able to stand still!!
KANG CHUL MOM – (E) Honey, stop it!! Cheolah, stop it!!
KANG CHUL DAD – (E) Hey bastard, get out! you never come back! I’m not even a child of a guy like you, so cut the ties! Until now, people like you are called children (I say gunshots bang!!)
After listening to it over and over all day, he came to the conclusion that his voice was right.
Eventually, he throws his phone against the wall.
As you get closer, tears of despair run down your cheeks…
Kang Chul and the supernatural.
Having the previous scene and all the scenes presented here helps to stick together the same theme. All the ways that Kang Chul has proof that something supernatural is going on. And finally ends with his arm half disappearing.
The door appears and disappears: a way used by the manhwa’s subverted physical laws to solve a paradox/contradiction.
Scene 89 is theoretically a MONTAGE.
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#87. Reminiscence – Motel Corridor (Night)
A wall that had been painted with wallpaper.
Suddenly, a door that didn’t exist reappears, and Kang Chul in a suit opens the door and comes out.
(** This is the setting after washing a bloody shirt.)
Kang Chul, after closing the door and walking a few steps, something strange happened and when I turned around, the door disappeared again.
Kang Chul, …..? I couldn’t believe it when I came back and touched the wall…
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#88. Reminiscence – motel parking lot (night)
Kang Chul comes out with his head bowed. Holding the car keys and looking for a car. I can’t see my car, I look around, and when I press the key, the car in the corner flickers. Kang Chul, comes right away and stops to get in the car. The color of the car is changed. It’s unfamiliar and I see it again.. It’s strange, so if you check if it’s right, the license plate is also changed. Kang Chul, the look on his face…
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#89. Reminiscence – Country House Living Room (Night)
Kang Chul moved to a rural residence provided by Do Yoon.
Soju bottles and beer cans are lying around… Newspapers are scattered here and there.
Kang Chul drinking soju, leaning on the sofa.
Kang Chul’s video continues to appear on the news that has been silenced.
Kang Chul throws away the empty soju bottle and stops while picking it up again.
Looking at his hand holding a soju bottle… His hand is instantly translucent…
Kang Chul, ….?! When you come back to your senses, you come back.
KANG CHUL – (whispering) You… you’re so crazy… (Amazing)
Romantic acts.
To show that sometimes the writer needs to use special notes. She indicates them with (** note text).
I did not put the whole scene 94.
Scene 92, a hint to the actress, about how Yeon-Joo finds Kang Chul strange.
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#92. Clothing Store (Night)
Yeon Joo and Kang Chul pick up some cheap dresses and underwear and hand them out to the owner.
HOST – It’s 18,000 won.
YEON JOO – (Holding out 20 thousand won)
Yeon Joo glances outside while the owner packs his clothes.
I see Kang Chul standing outside and disappearing into the store next door.
Yeon Joo, it feels weird, Kang Chul seems to have changed something.
(** From the bus stop to here, strangely, it is a contrasting atmosphere and situation as it flows similarly to the situation from the bus stop to the luxury store.)
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#94. Supermarket Parking Lot (Night)
In the parking lot where there is no one and only Kang Chul’s car, the two of them are sitting on a parking pole and eating ice cream.
(** It doesn’t have to be a parking lot, it just needs to be in a quiet and decent place in town)
KANG CHUL – It’s delicious. (Do) How about that?
YEON JOO – Well.. it tastes like strawberry..
Kang Chul is cooking.
End of the big joke that Kang Chul makes to Yeon-Joo.
The major difference with the drama… Yeon-Joo has time to go to the bathroom. I don’t know if she had time to take a shower. But since the script doesn’t indicate that she changed her clothes…
The drama removed this to better tie the situation, with Kang Chul’s previous line. Yeon-Joo reacts faster! The flashback with the book is well in the drama.
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#97. Country House Living Room (Night)
Small living room with kitchen.
Kang Chul, who took off his hat, stood in front of the sink and took out the spaghetti sauce from the bag.. He was busy by himself taking out spaghetti noodles from the cupboard and vegetables from the refrigerator.
Yeon Joo, blankly standing while watching Kang Chul prepare the dishes…
KANG CHUL – Do you like spaghetti? I’ll make you cream spaghetti.
YEON JOO – (embarrassed) You don’t know how to cook…
KANG CHUL – Who is it? I can’t cook?
YEON JOO – (speechless)
KANG CHUL – That’s right. I couldn’t, but I looked online and studied. I have nothing to do here.
(Like a joke) One day, when Oh Yeon Joo appears, I want to do it.
YEON JOO – Yes..?
KANG CHUL – Wash up. (and put water in a pot)
YEON JOO – (continues something strange) …..
KANG CHUL – The bathroom is over there. (indicated)
YEON JOO – ….. (He goes to the bathroom with a bag of clothes and glances at Kang Chul)
KANG CHUL – (Talking to himself while putting the pot on the stove) Did you do four now?
Just two more and I’m done with my homework today.
YEON JOO – (opens the bathroom door and stops at that word) ….? (Looking back)
KANG CHUL – (I am passionate about cutting vegetables)
YEON JOO – (Face)
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#98. Country House Toilet (Night)
Yeon Joo comes in with clothes and toiletries, etc. and is dazed for a moment.
I ran out of water to wash my hands.
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#99. Reminiscence – Penthouse Bedroom (Night)
The situation after scene 51 in ep 8.
Yeon Joo sits alone in bed, attaching colorful indexes to the illustrated book.
A picture of shopping. Illustration of sharing ice cream. Illustration of street shopping.
Yeon Joo puts indexes on a picture a man cooks with a happy smile on her face.
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#100. Country House Toilet (Night)
It is proceeding like an illustration, too much to be a coincidence.
Yeon Joo, maybe… but it’s weird.
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#101. Country House Living Room (Night)
Kang Chul is slicing bacon with water on, while Yeon Joo opens the door and comes out.
KANG CHUL – Do you like to add a lot of bacon?
YEON JOO – A little while ago… What did you say…?
KANG CHUL – (sighs) What is it?
YEON JOO – A little while ago… Homework… What did you say…?
KANG CHUL – Oh, homework..?
YEON JOO – What does that mean?
KANG CHUL – (putting down the knife) Homework to do ten sweet things a day.
But my husband only gave me four and they disappeared.
So I tried to do it for my husband. to pay off the life debt.
YEON JOO – (??!)
KANG CHUL – (Like a joke) Because I look like my husband. So you’re not chasing me?
YEON JOO – How do you know that…?
KANG CHUL – …….
YEON JOO – I never said homework…?
KANG CHUL – Because I saw it.
YEON JOO – Where…?
KANG CHUL – (Looks like a joke all the time, getting serious) …
YEON JOO – Where do you see that…?
KANG CHUL – …….
YEON JOO – (…?)
KANG CHUL – here. (and showing the cover in front of Yeon Joo)
YEON JOO – (??!!)
In the eyes of Yeon Joo, the cover of the 34th volume of the comic book {W}, with a drawing by Kang Chul.
YEON JOO – (???!!)
KANG CHUL – This cartoon… you know?
YEON JOO – (!! I was so surprised I couldn’t even hide my expression)
KANG CHUL – You look like you know him very well.
YEON JOO – (Face)
KANG CHUL – I saw you here.
Oh Yeon Joo’s husband gave me four sweet things and it was gone.
YEON JOO – (Face)
KANG CHUL – He was a bit rude. Should I get married at the most and do that to a woman?
YEON JOO – (Face)
KANG CHUL – …….
YEON JOO – (Unbelievable) This… how…
KANG CHUL – ……
Comic book close-up and reminiscence
Reverse time flashback.
To make it easier for the director to understand, the scriptwriter clearly indicates that it will be in reverse order. That’s simple!
This time, the script is rigorous, with the use of MONTAGE.
Visual tip: SJJ is thinking of doing regular close-ups on the manhwa!
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#102. flashback montage
Recall in reverse order.
C#1. Country House Yard (Night)
Do Yoon, standing and ringing the doorbell, looking around to see who will see.
As soon as the door opens slightly, Do Yoon quickly enters and closes the door.
C#2. Country House Living Room (Night)
Kang Chul, listening to a story with a bottle of soju like a scoundrel while Do Yoon hangs
DO YOON – (cramped) There is no hole to get out of.
I’ve looked all over and there’s no evidence of manipulation. Dude, let’s sleep. There’s no way.
KANG CHUL – …… (without answering) Oh Yeon Joo, did you know?
DO YOON – It’s true that that woman was idly at the thoracic surgery for a week.
KANG CHUL – ……
DO YOON – And… Oh Yeon Joo is also looking for Han Chul Ho.
KANG CHUL – (sharp) Why…?
DO YOON – I’m sure I’m going to do it because the opportunity has come. It looks like you went all over the place.
KANG CHUL – …….
DO YOON – No income… I got this one. (He takes a comic book out of his pocket)
KANG CHUL – (…?)
DO YOON – It’s a comic book… Oh Yeon Joo came up here, so I brought it with me.
I haven’t looked closely yet either.
KANG CHUL – ….? (Looks at the cover with his own face on it)
Comic book cover, as close-up.
C#3. Department of Thoracic Surgery, Sungjin Hospital (daytime)
Doctor Nam 2 (appeared in episode 11) gives Do Yoon a comic book.
M DOCTOR2 – I told Kang Chul that I should give it to Ms.
DO YOON – (Let’s be out of the blue ?) It’s a comic book..?
M DOCTOR2 – Kang Chul is the main character. There is also a character named Oh Yeon Joo here.
DO YOON – (Unfamiliar with comic books and looking down)
Comic book cover, as close-up.
C#4. Sungjin Hospital Resident Sleeping Room (Night)
Doctor 2 comes in with a yawn and lies on the bed.
I was lying in bed and something caught my back, and I felt pain and pulled out the book underneath.
M DOCTOR2 – What is this? (opens a comic book)
Comic book close-up.
C#5. Myungse Hospital Resident Sleeping Room (evening)
Same scene as scene 61 in episode 10.
Yeon Joo is lying in bed, holding a comic book and looking at Kang Chul on the cover.
Tears are welling in my eyes, but when the door opens and Suk Bum enters, I quickly open a comic book and cover my face.
SUK BUM – Don’t you eat dinner?
YEON JOO – Later… I’m sleepy…
SUK BUM – Oh, who do you eat with again? (scratching and leaving)
Yeon Joo, lying down crying with an open W comic book on her face.
At this time, the layout and props of the desk behind Yeon Joo change in an instant.
Yeon Joo doesn’t know that Sungjin Hospital’s sleeping room was changed in an instant.
After a while, with a ringtone
ANNOUNCER – (E) Code Black, Code Black Emergency Room… The shooting victims are arriving soon. Due to the lack of manpower because there are many injured, medical staff from each department except for the minimum number of people, please come to the emergency room immediately.
Yeon Joo, who was wet with tears at the sound, picks up a comic book
ANNOUNCER – (E) Announce again. Code Black Emergency Room… Shooting injuries are arriving soon.
Due to the lack of manpower because there are many injured, medical staff from each department except for the minimum number of people, please come to the emergency room immediately.
Yeon Joo, ?! Wiping my tears, I jumped up and threw the comic book on the bed and left.
A comic book with Kang Chul on the cover on the bed.
Cliffhanger.
I always give the last scenes!
Scene 104, there is also what is more of a MONTAGE.
I don’t know why SJJ says Montage sometimes, and other times not. She says it when there are header scenes in the sub-scenes. Yet, she uses a montage when Yeon-Joo sticks pictures on her window, episode 9. So why not here? It’s a mystery.
Scene 104 leaves some freedom to what the director can show. It’s like an action scene, only the highlights are written. The director adds the content as he likes, between the highlights wanted by the writer.
Very good final line from Kang Chul for the cliffhanger! “I am your husband??”
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#103. Country House Living Room (Night)
YEON JOO – (!!!)
KANG CHUL – I thought this was yours. Isn’t it?
YEON JOO – (At that moment, I realized that it was a comic book I brought from the real world, and I was shocked)
KANG CHUL – Oh Yeon Joo doesn’t show up and there’s nothing she can do. So I’ve been digging this book the whole time.
see and see again I memorized all the lines now.
YEON JOO – (Face)
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#104. Reminiscence – Country house room (day – night)
Kang Chul is sitting on the bed drinking soju and flipping through comic books.
KANG CHUL – (E) At first, I didn’t think much of it…
(** You can use the same scenes as the cartoon cuts in the 10th Yeon Joo room)
Episode 1, the scene where Kang Chul is looking for Yeon Joo and saying {Oh Yeon Joo.. Where are you now?}.
Kang Chul carelessly skips it and stops at the 2nd episode, kissing Yeon Joo.
Looking at the cut for a moment… I feel something strange.
I turned it over again and stopped at the 4th episode, where we were talking face to face in the interview room.
Kang Chul, stop at that cut and wait for a while…
Kang Chul sat up properly with the dissolve.
The appearance of turning the pages continuously and the cartoon cut intersect.
Episode 5, the cut through the dimensional gate.
Stopped in the cut where he fired a pistol at Sung Moo in episode 6.
Seeing Sung Moo with the same face as the real killer, Kang Chul was surprised…
In the 7th episode, he fell into the Han River and died in the water.
Kang Chul smirks and stares at a cut depicting his own suicide…
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#105. Country House Living Room (Night)
YEON JOO – (!!)
KANG CHUL – The story was interesting.
Kang Chul is both stupid and pathetic. like me.
YEON JOO – (Face)
KANG CHUL – So I was holding on without embroidering. Oh Yeon to meet Joo.
When I find you, I’ll ask you the next question.
Before I knew it, I couldn’t just go to jail.
YEON JOO – (…!!)
KANG CHUL – Have you seen this next episode?
YEON JOO – (Face)
KANG CHUL – (Opens and shows the last chapter)
Episode 9, Kang Chul standing on the roof railing of a hotel and saying goodbye.
At the bottom it says {Continued to Volume 35}.
YEON JOO – (…!!!)
KANG CHUL – What will happen to Kang Chul and Oh Yeon Joo after this…?
YEON JOO – (Face)
KANG CHUL – Does this happen and Kang Chul forgets Oh Yeon Joo forever?
YEON JOO – (Face)
KANG CHUL – ……
YEON JOO – ……
KANG CHUL – Answer me.
Your husband who suddenly disappeared… Is it me?
YEON JOO – (!)
End of the 12th.