I’m joining you all on this one.
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I liked their first meeting because it highlighted the link between the two lead characters.
One, it was a busy street yet their paths crossed.
Two, they wore contrasting outfits. He was in a olive green coat; she was in a festive red garb. But together, they had on the matching colors of the Christmas season.
And three, he felt his heart pounding and he realized she was the reason. She’d been straining her heart to rush back home. So just like that, his heart recognized hers as his twin.
Their link might not be visible to the naked eye, but it was palpable as “two hearts beating as one.” lol. That’s a romantic cliché, but in this drama, it was literally true.
Let’s enjoy the show!
Aaaa so happy you’re watching this as well! Will be tuning in for everyone’s comments☺
Hi @pkml3, like @goldenashes97, I’m super pleased that we’ve got a show in common. You keep seeing stuff that bypass me. Shall we call these 2 our Christmas Couple?
This meeting of hearts thing… it’s a very kdrama thing, and it happened also in probably more than 1 show where a person received a heart transplant. (I recall a show called Scent of Summer 2008, where I believe the heart of the girl was transplanted from the dead ex-lover of the guy. His heart recognised the ex-gf’s heart LOL).
The show’s set up, build up, and trajectory are going well, and it’s likely to be a good run from a well conceived beginning. *fingers and toes crossed!*
Kalispera @Packmule3!
It is so good to have you with us! I am waiting patiently for Episode 3.
BTW, I have left you a comment in our “May” thread, but as it seems you haven’t seen it. If you want, I can post it over here as well. 🙂
Episode 3 – “Confession”
A good one with progress in the plot and the introduction of additional characters to add to the list of suspects, plus a little twist or two.
*SPOILERS*
*SPOILERS*
This episode is rightly titled, since we do get a confession, or two, or three.
We get more question marks as to whom Officer Ji Won Tak is, since his reaction to hearing Eun Gye Hoon’s name is strange. He seems to be still in ‘boyfriend’ mode with Inspector Hwang.
The man (Han Ui Chan) who urinates in public, is he the piano teacher of old? Who might the piano teacher’s son be now? Although Officer Ji is the right age, his surname is different.
I liked how Da Hyun finally stood up to her controlling mother and decided to work across the road. LOL she exchanged a restaurant with lousy food for a gourmet restaurant. The running joke is how bad her mother’s cooking is. It’s amazing how they can even stay in business, since there are so few customers.
The nicest scenes were the collage of gourmet ‘snack’ times that DH got to have with GH. They were so beautifully filmed and lighted. I envied the actors for being able to eat those amazing looking dishes.
LOL with Dance-cercise coach, Jo Jae Sook, aware of what DH’s family have done, will they become killers for hire? The preview of the shadows of all 3 of them walking with spades, as if to bury the dead, tickled me. LOLOL.
I did wonder how in such a small town, nobody noticed the stalker or the moving of the dead body, or the disposal of the dead body. 🤔 🤨
Kalispera Everyone!
I just finished watching Episode 3. It had nice touches, especially the late night cooking and eating for our two linked people.
@GB Unnie,
Family that one of their parents have committed murder or is accused of it, can change their surname. So, it is possible that the son changed his surname and he could be that maknae Police officer.
Yes, that homeless man is the piano teacher who is older at the moment.
I believe that there are many people who witnessed a lot, but are not speaking, because they have crimes of their own.
It is something I wrote to @nrllee in the previous thread: They all have dirty laundry that they share.
So far, they haven’t realized who GH really is. Except the police officer who looked for him and the homeless man who recognized him.
We also need to pay attention to the younger policeman, who looks suspicious to me.
Anyway, she is falling in love with him and with that dna test, we are going to find out if they are siblings.
As I have said before, they are not.
Thanks for those gifs @packmule3. Did you notice how in the 4th gif with YJG clutching his heart ❤️, the camera frames MGY’s red antlers in the foreground? It looked like a broken heart. 😮.
Hi @Cleo
Yes, I read your discussion in the first thread before, about how everyone has something to hide. It is made more explicit now. There must have been several who had an inkling about what happened to Gye Young.
Questions I(we) would like answered: If the homeless man/piano teacher didn’t hurt GY, then whose blood was he washing off his shirt, and why did he get bloody?
It’s true that people may change their family register so as to not be associated with someone notorious or criminal. So far maknae officer did not behave as if he recognised the homeless man who was peeing in public. He might be a good actor or really does not recognise the homeless man.
– This is one of those things that kdramas use either convincingly or unconvincingly. In romances, there’s a higher chance that the childhood connection trope crops up and also a higher chance that people recognise each other although some 15-20 years have passed. I generally find that unconvincing.
It’s more likely that seeing the same person again after 18 years, one is unable to recognise the person. It is only when GH gives his name, that it triggers a memory.
In this show it seems quite convincing that although so many other people who were present in the time GH lived in Jihwa Dong are still there and see GH, only 2 who noticed GH specifically when he was 10 years old, might guess or recognise him now.
Yes, as usual, being thrown together so much, and receiving so much care from GH, DH has started to look warmly upon GH. Her mother exhibits so much bad parenting. I cringe at her tone and her biting, accusatory choice of words over and over again. DH retorted boldly but hit the nail on the head: she is not there to bolster her mother’s self-esteem.
I expect that mother will improve towards the end of the series and hopefully her cooking will improve as well!
I also do not think that GH and DH are siblings. I’d like to know if Show will give an explanation for their uni-directional emotional link.
If the rookie police officer is the son of the piano teacher who may have been the killer, he would recognise GH’s name when he introduced himself. It was strange that he wouldn’t accept GH’s apology. Not very mature. Of course he wasn’t on duty. I think as well that he changed his name.
@Cleopatra, if DH isn’t GH’s sister, there are two other girls the same age – the police officer and the curly haired chef, who is acting like she has a crush on DH and who said that her brother (stalker) is missing. But GH only has the mental connection with DH – why would that be if she wasn’t his sister? The new chef recognises DH because of all of the photos on the stalker’s phone, so I wonder why doesn’t she ask DH about that? Is she really his sister?
I think that almost everyone has a secret or is living some sort of lie. The town is like one big tangled web.
The main thing I don’t understand (and another post mentioned this) if DH is Eun Gye Hoon, how would the rest of the townspeople not recognise her as she grew up? My impression is that DH has been around that town most of her life. I don’t know about the other two women.
When the grandmother said it’s time for dance lessons, I could only picture either ballroom dancing or the shaman. I hope we get some more shaman moments. This is so fun.
I’m enjoying this very much. Moon Ga Young is perfect as the ditzy but traumatised FL and Yeo Jin Goo hasn’t set a foot wrong. Ye Soo Jung who plays the grandmother is always good, even when she’s playing someone evil. It’s nice to see her playing someone who is (so far) a kindly person. The mother is a bit jarring to me, but perhaps I’ll get used to her.
Hi @Fern, you’ve brought up points that has me adding more questions I’d like answered.
Question I(we) would like answered: If the new chef girl is really Stalker’s sister, why is she investigating in this underhanded fashion? If she’s not the sister, then who is she?
The rest of the town is better at hiding that they are lying than DH. She makes it so obvious that she’s lying that everyone knows. The whole of her family turning up at the police station is an admittance of something. Inspector Hwang, who mentioned that not only victims but also perpetrators visit the police station, will never let it go.
🙂
Kalimera Ladies!
@Fern As I have answered to @nrllee in the previous thread, I don’t believe that DH is not GY’s long long sister.
I am also, not looking for who might be the long long sister. I take as given for now that Eun Gye-Young has passed away, because that her brother Eun Gye-Hoon felt at the time.
As for the link our OTP shares, I have written before, that GH is like a radio antenna who gets the signals of someone who is broadcasting on some specific frequencies. This was happening with his sister. These days he is in tune with No Da-Hyun.
I believe that the Lee Eun-Jung who claims that she is the sister of the stalker has the same tendencies with her brother. They are both unstable.
Also, she sexually harassed No Da-Hyun twice. The first time, was the day they met each other and the second one while she was being interviewed in the restaurant. She is passive aggressive.
As for the female officer, I would say that she wants to find the truth, but since we don’t know much about her, she is on my radar, but not for being GH’s sister.
What is really weird is that No Da-Hyun doesn’t remember at all Eun Gye-Hoon nor his sister. I mean if they were going to the same school she should remember that something bad happened to someone.
@GB Unnie,
You are right. What is so unconvincing on k-dramas is how someone who was a child be recognized as a grown up. Some people change so drastically that is not an option.
I would prefer a memory to be triggered from his name, and not his appearance.
Since I am in police procedural series, the first one who is supposed to be the culprit is not. In that case, the piano teacher is hiding a secret of his own.
He could have hurt someone else, who did harm to the little girl.
I think that the present story is associated with the past one. In which part you would ask me for?
That everyone knows something of importance but noone spoke of, when they should.
So, the lingering regrets are not only for the piano teacher’s son or DH. It is for all those people in the neighbourhood who knew what happend to GY and chose not to speak of that truth.
The same is for DH, she was attached by a pervert and stalker but noone talked for her. All of those people kept their silences – wait for more to come out and ask for “favors” – in order to blackmail them.
@Cleopatra, you are correct about DH not remembering Eun Gye-hoon or his sister. When something that traumatic happens in a community, it becomes one of those sorts of indelible memories. If she was 10 at the time, she would surely have remembered unless subconsciously she blanked it out due to trauma.
I was thinking that even if the stalker was alive and got out of the fridge himself, someone had to clean the blood out of the fridge. He was bleeding quite a bit.
@Cleopatra, Kalimera. That’s interesting what you say about the community dynamic of secrets and blackmail. We saw that with the dance teacher and DH’s mother and grandmother. I wonder if this is the first time that someone was a witness to a crime they committed and could blackmail them?
Hey dear @Fern,
Yes there is a parallel for the past and the present.
It is no wonder that those people do know who was the one who abducted and maybe killed the little girl, but noone talked about it.
I am pretty sure that in the past, they blackmailed one another, one by one.
Hence they are repeating the same cycle.
As for the stalker, we will learn what happened. There was a scene in the preview that our Chef found out something unexpected in that fridge.
P.S. After watching the first three episodes, I start to believe that the Narrator is Unreliable in this one as well. We shall see…
@Growing Beautifully, I agree about the Stalker’s ‘sister’ Lee Eun-jung. Why doesn’t she go to the police if the requisite number of days is past to report that sort of incident? Could it be that she isn’t really his family member? Her actions are dodgy indeed.
The stalker’s phone was dropped at the Stew restaurant – we saw DH answer it after she saw his body, so EJ must have seen the photos of DH at a previous time unless he posted them somewhere? Did I miss that? Shall have to re-watch. Eun-jung to me seems possibly jealous like a girlfriend. But it could also be that she knows of his stalking tendencies and could be worried, especially if she could be involved somehow. I wonder why she didn’t confront DH about seeing her photos on his phone yet. She must be looking for evidence herself. She knows that she is bothering DH with her admiration but I wonder if it’s an act to consciously make DH and the other chefs react to her in a particular way.
I wonder if there is any significance in the fact that Lee Eun-jung and Eun Gye Hoon who both have Eun in their names?
There is mention of The Truman Show. I’ve never seen it, have you? It was mentioned by the chefs. It’s about someone who doesn’t know that he has lived his life on camera with actors playing friends, acquaintances and family.
Hi @Cleo and @Fern,
Oh dear, Cleo, you think this narrator is unreliable as well? The main narrator is Gye Hoon who thinks he remembers his past. We are relying on his memory and his point of view at the moment.
The other one with voiceovers is Da Hyun.
That’s a good point @Cleo… people in that small, closed community may have known of wrong-doing, did not come out to speak up for what was right or to report a crime but kept their silence, and at the appropriate time, made use of that knowledge for their own benefit.
@Fern, I noticed that when Lee Eun Jung first saw and recognised DH, she remembered how she’d called the Stalker and that had heard someone answer the phone, then sobbed or gasped and then hung up. It sounded like a girl to her and so since she saw that Stalker had posted many photos of DH in his social media, she was considering that the gasp at the end of the line could have come from DH.
LEJ seems to have concluded that there is some foul play, but is investigating on her own. Yes, I feel that either one or both she and the Stalker are criminals of some kind, or accessories to crime, or something else, but she does not want to excite police interest. She does not trust anyone, hence has not reported it in the normal way, but she’s prying and going to keep poking to make someone reveal something.
She’s definitely better at keeping secrets and lying than DH.
Also, your point about there being blood in the fridge is valid. Yes, as Cleo says, GH had been shown in the preview to have been shocked by something in the fridge. Yes, if he had seen the dead body, then I agree that his narration is also unreliable, since he has not revealed to us, viewers, that he had seen something shocking yet. We are still of the opinion that he has been innocent and ignorant.
If he has had a hand in hiding the dead body, then he’s too good an actor, and we start to wonder what else he may be hiding.
As for the name ‘Eun’… it’s hard to say when it’s romanised. In one case it’s the surname in ‘English spelling’ and in the other it’s part of the name. We need to be able to read the Korean character and to find out if it is the same character or not. If it is, then we need to know if placing the same character anywhere in the name means anything of significance or if keeping that character in another name means anything. 🙂
I think the significance of reference to “The Truman Show” is that no one except the lead wants the truth to be revealed. In The Truman Show, the reality show would end and those employed would be out of work. In this drama, the residents have guilt and/or blackmail as their motivation.
@Fern, Yes, I’ve watched “The Truman Show”. It was a media project that profiteered from airing the daily life of a person, Truman, from birth to adulthood. His every moment (practically) was captured on camera for the rest of the country to watch throughout the day, but he remained unaware that he was on TV.
*SPOILERS*
He didn’t know that he was living in a restricted, microcosm of a world in a huge studio, where everyone around him was an actor, and he was a virtual prisoner, kept in place by his ignorance of his actual plight. There was even product placement in “The Truman Show” with the actors promoting things they wore or used.
There were several attempts of ‘actors’ or others to reveal the truth to Truman and he did finally find out that he was living in a man-made studio, under a false sky, and that the sea which he was taught to fear, was just a pool of water, with a machine that could make the strong currents and create storms.
*END SPOILERS*
Jin Hu mentioned “The Truman Show” because he felt that everyone was watching them at all times (through their big glass windows, like a TV screen!). However unlike Truman, JH and GH are aware of it. 😁
@GB, thank you for answering some of my questions. It’s strange to me why a stalker would post photos of his ‘stalkee’ on his social media page, but it probably happens. Thanks for reminding me of how she saw the photos.
I think that DH is the weak link as far as lying goes. She can’t lie well and she can’t hold the truth in — just like the boy who said his father had blood on his clothing. Gye-hoon has said that he might be on her side, and that as a brother he would kill someone who hurt his sister. I would imagine that he could have found the body, disposed of it and cleaned up. He has such a great poker face – as @Cleo says, he might well be an unreliable narrator.
The Truman Show sounds like a very interesting watch, @GB. Thank you for explaining the reference.
Speaking of product placement, I saw Starbucks finally got into k-dramas with GH using their pods in his coffee machine in the employee lounge room. It would be unlikely for their pods to be used in the restaurant itself if it considers itself to be gourmet because a coffee expert would know it.
The Funny
As mentioned to @Fern above, I’m reminded of the funny scene where Jin Hu kept on about feeling they are in prison under constant surveillance, like being on the Truman show (where they are Truman). Even at the market everyone was looking at them very amused and LOL, that was because of the way Jin Hu clung non-stop to GH’s arm as they shopped LOLOL. Everyone must have thought they were a ‘couple’.
The comic timing was good (good editing?) because when considering if DH might be GH’s sister, GH describes his sister as pretty, cheerful, clean and neat… but out from Choonok Restaurant tumbles DH with hair in a mess and looking not at all cheerful.
I hate to have to admit it, but our heroine DH, is not very bright. JH proudly announces to GH that has done some silly research on DH and discovered that she cannot remember when she was born or confirm her birthdate LOLOL. She had been as serious about it as JH. JH looks kind of pleased with his investigation but GH can’t believe it : “What are you two, dumb and dumber? What about you? Do you remember when you were born?” LOLOL Of course JH can’t either but is saved from admitting it by the rain.
When DH starts work for GH, her mother cannot believe that her daughter left her restaurant to work at another one across the street. Granny asked if it would have been better if it were a restaurant a bit farther away? And dares to chuckle at this joke. LOLOL. I love Grandma!!
Ep3 was good. 🙂. It’s still intriguing. The body count seems to be going up (potentially with the request by dance teacher- I am assuming she wants her husband killed). 😅. Thanks for all the discussion points above. Yes it does seem rather odd that so many people didn’t even bat an eyelid when GH returned. And no-one seemed to recognize him when he came back. He’s a celebrity chef? And something like that sticks in your mind? Even if it was 18years ago? There is no mention about DH’s father or grandfather. Except for the story recounted by grandma in the Police station.
I agree the young constable is suspicious. And he could potentially be the son of the piano teacher (who is the deranged old man who pees outside). Whose blood was it then if it wasn’t GY’s? There was no body. The link certainly is mysterious. I thought it was a mental link where DH witnessed the death of GY when she was young. Just like she seems fuzzy about what happened on the night the Stalker was killed (?), she may have blocked out what she saw as well.
@Fern, good catch about the way “The Truman Show” can work as an allusion to what is happening here. Yes, the majority of the people involved in the deception do not want the truth to be revealed. The whole country, in fact, is in on the deception and all are as liable as the producers of the show. They lap it up, for years, and enable the intrusion into his privacy and use of him as an unwitting, (unpaid?) reality TV ‘actor’ for over 20++ years. If some kind of legal action could be taken, then the whole country should pay for the ‘crime’.
So in the same way, the whole community who knew GY, have something to lose by revealing the truth.
Ultimately in the Truman Show, stage lights fell from the ‘sky’, and a person broke through security and flew/parachuted in (or something like that) shouting the truth to Truman, but the other actors covered it up.
I guess we watch, hoping for the ‘production’ to breakdown as more people come forward who can’t hide the truth or ‘props start to fall from the sky’.
The Characters I Hope Are Honest and Reliable
So far, I can only make a short list of 2!!!
Inspector Hwang
Cha Jin Hu
The Progression into Friendship
I liked how Show depicted the progression of DH and GH’s fraught acquaintanceship with the drinks that they had together in their nightly snacks. They began with totally different types of alcohol, and drank them separately, from different looking glasses, without clinking glasses.
By the fifth(?) time, they’d come to share the same bottle of drink or the same kind of drinks in cans that DH brought over, and they clinked glasses like friends, and actually drank in unison, as they stared out at the falling snow. In any other kdrama romances, it would have been a significant moment, watching the first snow together, but this occasion GH stared seriously out the windows while DH stared seriously at him, coming to the conclusion that he was not a bad guy.
Her conclusion, she tells Grandma the next day, is that he’s likely a good guy who would not have hidden the corpse. But again, she’s likely also to be wrong.
I agree that since GH had expressed his willingness to kill anyone who harassed his sister, he might be willing to hide the corpse to save DH, in case she were his sister.
Confessions?
We discovered that the piano teacher’s son confessed seeing his father washing off blood, and regretted it.
Linked to this is that GH must have reported this to the police and the piano teacher was aware of this since he stared so hard at GH when he was arrested.
As mentioned, GH confesses that he’s prepared to kill anyone who hurts his sister or whom he regards as his sister.
Aerobics instructor Jo confesses that she witnessed the corpse cover-up and that there’s someone she wants dead.
Da Hyun is generally naïve, uncomplicated and prefers to be honest, but is forced to lie. She cannot keep secrets for long, which is good when it comes to confessing to her mother that she had been lying for some time. Thus she frees herself to pursue what is more comfortable for her.
DH takes other’s honesty at face value. She cannot read the shadiness in LEJ’s over-the-top admiration. Hiding the truth goes badly against the grain for her, hence she has to spill the truth sooner or later. She would probably have preferred to have turned herself in to have peace of mind.
Officer Ji inadvertently reveals that he still regards Inspector Hwang as his ‘gf’ and won’t allow other men to touch her, while he forgets himself enough to wipe the corner of her mouth most intimately in front of all his colleagues!!
PS I am thankful that it’s YJG and not Kim SeonHo who picked up this drama. I don’t think I would’ve been so on board with GH had it been KSH. 😂. YJG’s voice is smooth like chocolate. Watching him plate up and then eating, sipping on wine…topped with his dulcet tones? Bonus. 😂👍. I wish I could’ve sampled some of those dishes. They looked delish 😋
http://en.koreaportal.com/articles/49971/20210713/yeo-jin-goo-offered-star-new-tvn-drama-kim-seon.htm
Kalo mesimeri @GB Unnie!
Yes, I think the Narrator is unreliable.
We must remember that Gye Hoon was a ten year old boy when the incident happened. So, he could have repressed some information and “chose” to remember others things as well.
For instance, he doesn’t seem to remember the man who was coming towards him, when his dad asked him if he “felt” his sister. After a while GH “knew” that his sister died and he cried uncontrollably in his father’s arms.
Also, after reading about “The Truman Show” reference, I am thinking that the omniscient narrator is someone else.
So, far we have our OTP POV’s, but not another one.
Another reason I tend to believe that the narrator is unreliable, is that after No Da-Hyun’s assault, she lost consciousness and when she came to her senses, the stalker was dead. She even said as a voiceover that she doesn’t remember what happened exactly afterwards.
So, she believes she killed him, but she didn’t. I am certain of this.
The whole village / town is guilty of something. I bet we are going to see the parallels past vs present in due time…
@Growing Beautifully, you wrote
“The comic timing was good (good editing?) because when considering if DH might be GH’s sister, GH describes his sister as pretty, cheerful, clean and neat.”
He also said she was smart, didn’t he? The grandmother, in a rare moment of dominance, said that she, DH’s mother and DH need to work together because they only have enough intelligence for one brain combined. If DH is GH’s sister, either he remembers incorrectly or she isn’t as smart as she had been as a child due to psychological or physical factors.
@nrllee, I think that the people must know it’s GH, but no one wants to admit it. They did act pretty suspiciously when he first appeared and became overly friendly when he was running for exercise. The ex-piano teacher seems to know him if he’s spying through the window.
Gosh, I imagined that the ‘confession’ letter about the father was sent anonymously, but that GH assumed it was from the piano teacher’s child?
In fact there are no bodies – yet. GY’s body wasn’t found. Stalker Lee Young Hoon’s body is missing, too.
It could be that no murders were committed, but murder will happen based on the assumption that it had been committed in the far or recent past. This is so interesting.
@Cleopatra, we also don’t see if GH remembers who said to him at the Shaman’s seance that the killer is there. Even if we get moments of truth from one person’s perspective, we don’t completely know if those moments are accurate or not because of emotions and time passing.
@Fern
That’s why I believe the narrator is unreliable. We see snippets of truth here and there, but not what happened in reality. That accounts for the past, but also the present.
So true @Fern and @Cleo,
If GH remembers correctly that his sister was smart, then poor DH does not measure up to that judgement of GY.
Oh dear, so little reliability on top of all the lies!!! Whatever are we poor viewers to take as true to analyse??? LOL.
Yes, childhood memories in a time fraught with guilt, anxiety and with persons around who might like to gaslight the boy, may be far from trustworthy.
I’m also of the opinion that DH blacked out, after perhaps pushing the stalker back so that he fell and lost consciousness, and someone else did the actual ‘killing’ of the Stalker. I’d really like to know why there was all that blood. I suppose a knife was handy in a restaurant and the stalker was stabbed or slashed. But we have no clear information on what wounds the Stalker had.
@nrllee
Thanks for the link on the casting news. I know I’d have had some difficulty enjoying this show if KSH had starred in it instead. YJG has made the role totally his and is totally convincing, so that we can no longer accept any other actor as Gye Hoon.
Me too… I really envy those who can get to eat those beautiful looking snacks. Maybe some of them might have been inedible props, but not all. I wanted a slice of octopus and the scallops. *sigh*.
Episode 4 – This episode was highly entertaining. I found myself laughing at many parts. The situation comedy is so well done.
The music and camera work, too, were great.
We get once again a childhood meeting trope that signifies predestination in that relationship.
And it’s so good that twists and answers are offered along the way.
In reality, as you may have experienced, a head wound however small, bleeds more than a similar wound on another part of the body. It is possible to black out from concussion and also have a scalp wound that would make the victim look very bad off. But that’s reality v. K-drama, so a viewer would think that the stalker was dead.
I’m also glad that KSH isn’t in this drama. It will be a long while before I willingly watch him.
KSH? 🤪
Phew! I dodged a bullet there.
Ep4 notes
First few minutes we get the link between DH and EGY. EGY’s face is blurred out for some reason. Maybe it explains DH’s fuzzy recall of facts. EGY is protecting DH from bullies. This scene played out in an earlier ep. I forget which one? Because GH charges in after she gets pushed down and fights off the bullies.
https://i.ibb.co/J7q80VP/10-FB10-F0-99-C1-4175-AABD-2048208026-F8.jpg
Okay back to watching. 😅
Yes @packmule3, KSH was offered first but turned it down for HTCCC. 😂
😂😂😂😂. Perhaps this was the confession I wanted to make…I’ve developed feelings for you…but instead, I said…I killed someone. 😂😂😂. The build up was superb. I couldn’t stop laughing.
Okay…really back to the full ep now without stopping to comment.
Kalimera Everyone,
So, in Episode 4 we have got some answers to our questions / hypetheses.
First of all, the maknae police officer, has temper issues.
He “punished” himself the drunken man because he tried to molest his ex girlfriend / police woman. Our Chef was there and got him almost in the act. Yes, I continue to believe that he is the son of the piano teacher.
Second of all, the stalker was not killed as we have correctly guessed.
He was just unconscious. When he came to his senses, he opened the fridge , was out of it and then he took a knife from the restaurant and tried to kill DH. But the taxi driver happened!
I am glad that slowly the truth is coming out. We don’t know what they did with the body, but we do know that his wife has the Chef’s santoku knife in one of her cupboards.
A neighbourhood with dirty laundry indeed!
So, for DH was just self defense. If they had called the cops, in the first place, they would have locked him away and she wouldn’t felt all that stress and regrets.
I am glad that our boy realized it and he helped DH, even though when he said that he won’t care for her any longer.
Third of all, the DNA analysis is out and they are not siblings.
I am not surprised at all…!
Fourth of all, the stalker sister is unstable – unstable. *grins*
Have you seen it? She thinks that DH is her little brother’s gf.
@Cleopatra, Kalimera. You were very correct about DH not being the twin. 🏆 Is it destiny, then? That seems too glib an answer. DH must be involved somehow to become his ‘wifi’ girl. She said that she had a head injury when younger and doesn’t remember things well. Could it have happened at the same time as GY’s abduction?
If GY and DH were friends at school, why doesn’t GH remember DH by name?
And there’s another witness to the fact that DH had problems with the stalker – her work friend. She doesn’t seem to be from the small town, so she might be less hesitant to go to the police.
I’m a bit worried about that rookie cop now. He was a niggling worry before but combining the fact that his father might have been accused by GH (although we don’t know that for sure, just as we don’t know for sure that his father killed GY). I don’t feel so bad now about the words said to him – by the same taxi driver who hit the stalker- when the rookie arrived, “But you look like you came here to die.”
I meant, combining the fact about his father’s accusation etc and his destructive temper…
“Perhaps this was the confession I wanted to make…I’ve developed feelings for you…but instead, I said…I killed someone. ������.”
@nrllee, are you think-yelling at the screen things like, ‘Call the police; Say what you mean clearly; Don’t assume, Listen to the explanation? Stop and think for a moment’? This drama might really be about breakdown in trust due to miscommunication. But that’s what makes it funny. It’s Lucille Ball trying to lie to Ricky. It’s a ship of fools.
We all dodged that bullet, but the casting makes much more sense. I can’t picture KSH or LJG because they are much older than the FL, who is supposed to be the same age as the twins. MGY and YJG are only a year apart in age, so it works well. I like them as the leads here.
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From the trailer, it looks as though she will learn about his twin and their mental relationship. She seems to accuse him of being concerned about her only for that reason. An assumption, but not far off. He both did and didn’t want her to be his twin, as he said to his sous-chef.
Kalimera my dear @Fern!
Yes, we can say it is destiny. I really think that DH is the key in solving GY’s disappearance. That’s why, they have becomed linked.
I agree with you, I believe DH was a witness to what happened to GY’s and either she got hurt from the culprit(s) or she got hurt by accident because she was afraid of what happened to her friend. She lost all her memories and maybe her trauma made her passive.
As I was saying yesterday the narrator is unreliable.
GH doesn’t remember correctly, because he cannot remember what actually happened. He remembers parts of the incident and not the whole thing.
Even if that female friend go to the police for that stalker’s disappearance, DH was lucky to have GH with her. If you remember correctly he took her to the hospital, so she had medical bills to declare that she was assaulted. As for what happened, she can say that she was unconscious and she doesn’t remember what happened next. She is trying to lie so awfully anyway…LOL
As I have said above, the piano teacher is NOT the culprit. He might know though, who really is.
The rookie cop is full with rage. He regrets telling to GH that his father had blood on his clothes. He shouldn’t blame himself that hard, afterall they were all kids.
At the same time, it is not GH’s fault that the boy confessed as well.
GH lost half of his world, his sister and consequently his family.
Kalo mesimeri, @Cleopatra. I am a bit concerned about the relationship between the lady police officer and the rookie in terms of how well she has him under control. From the beginning she insists that he act as her subordinate and that she doesn’t need him to protect her. I respect her perception and judgement on most things. She seems to know that he is a like an explosive, judging by how she shuts him down when the drunk man touched her. This could be another secret because if she recognises his violent tendancies, that should be reported. He shouldn’t be a police officer. I think he is doomed.
Kalo mesimeri @Fern!
Yes, we basically have a ticking time bomb in the form of a rookie police officer.
I think the police lady knows his buttons and how to push them or not. We shall see how this will progress though. I think we haven’t seen yet, the most unstable of them all…
I was trying to figure out if any of the young women look like the photo of 10 year old GY that has been put through a computer generated aging filter. Of course, those aren’t 100% accurate but there may be a clue.
So they are destined hence the link? 🤔 Or DH witnessed the murder of GY hence the link? There was a thought that crossed my mind that somehow GY’s consciousness was transmitted to DH in that moment (of GY’s death), hence the ability of GH to mirror DH now (like he did with GY in the past). I think he’s harboring a lot of guilt from leaving her alone as he played with his mates which resulted in her disappearance. As DH remembers the incident from the past, she will probably be the vehicle where GH’s guilt is finally assuaged. GY giving GH closure as DH narrates the full story and proffering forgiveness from his sister for his action in the past.
Taxi guy killed stalker? And disposed of the body? Is that why he has the special knife from the knife block hidden in his apartment drawer?
I agree with everyone that young police officer is a ticking time bomb (it makes me wonder why he turned his father in as a boy?). Was he abused as a child? Was his mom abused? Is that why he gets so angry with abusive men? I am of the impression that he beat up the drunk not just because the man took liberties with the female officer? The creepy sister of stalker is definitely unhinged. Apple doesn’t fall far from the tree. 😬
@Fern yes to the weird confessions. 😂. The episode was bookended by 2 strange confessions. Both about killing amid expectations of romance. The first one killed me though…there was a better build up. When she blurted out, “I killed someone” 😂, I couldn’t stop laughing. Way to kill the romantic vibe.
“Or DH witnessed the murder of GY hence the link? There was a thought that crossed my mind that somehow GY’s consciousness was transmitted to DH in that moment (of GY’s death), hence the ability of GH to mirror DH now (like he did with GY in the past).”
@nrllee, I wonder why there was an 18 year gap in the mirroring sensations? Also, we still haven’t had concrete evidence of GY’s death – we have the unreliable narrator in the form of a 10 YO boy. Could the mirroring have been transferred and GY still alive?
Another thing I don’t understand – I thought that the mirroring between twins went both ways. I don’t see that happening here, either with GY in the past or with DH currently.
Looking again at Da Hyun’s confession that the only boy she remembers as being consistently nice to her, we see her saying, “There was this amazing boy. He always came to my rescue. I think he must’ve liked me.”
In fact, GH was coming to rescue his sister and DH just happened to be there. It looked in the scene as though GY was trying to protect DH. I don’t think it could be that he picked up on DH’s thoughts at that time, because it was clear from other events that in the past he picked up GY’s thoughts only.
If GY was very shy, perhaps DH was one of her few friends at school. She may have gone to wait with her whilst GH played with his friends. But neither GH nor DH remember each other, although they know their names. I believe the part amnesia if DH had a head injury, but less so with GH.
@Fern I thought the same about why it was just one way with the “telepathy” with the twins. And yes to why everyone seems to have conveniently forgotten about childhood classmates. Maybe GH was so absorbed with his friends that he ignored GY’s friends 😂 and therefore doesn’t remember any of them.
If they were old age pensioners, I could forgive all of the forgetting by all of the younger set who were in the same year at school. 🤨😂 Hey, I still remember my brothers’ best primary school friends andwe were two years apart.
The way that little DH joined in the fight once GH arrived combined with the way GY seemed to have been protecting her makes me wonder if DH instigated the trouble, maybe because GH would come running. 😈
@Fern somehow I don’t think DH has it in her to do that. It is odd though that in the footage (where DH has the flashback), GY’s face is blurred out, but GH’s is not? So DH has obviously blocked her out in her memory.
I am getting dejavu because in MGY’s character Find Me In Your Memory, she plays a similar character. She’s the best friend of the ML’s gf who dies. And she’s blocked it out of her memory too? 😂. ML and her start a relationship and the memory returns slowly. And the ML there also has a “mental condition”. I like her character here better than FMIYM though. YJG has my heart though. When he gives me his deep laugh, I melt. 😂
PS @Fern as a gardener did you have serious greenhouse envy? I did. 😂. Although when DH was mindlessly shoveling soil with her spade I was half expecting her to dig up a hand or something? 😂. That garden bed was big enough to house a body right at the bottom.
@nrllee, yes, that is one fine greenhouse. 😆 And I think most people were waiting for her to poke some remains with her spade. Shades of Vincenzo and people being planted in vinyards.
Yes, you are completely right about the parallels with Find Me In Your Memory. The ML there had a nice deep voice, too, but dear oh dear – YJG’s voice is pretty special.🥰