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I thought that both In Joo and In Kyung did not make the best moves in Episode 3, which resulted in their being on Park/Won family’s radar and that cannot be a good thing. In Hye seems to be the most intriguing character (apart from Hwa Yeong), so I am curious about her journey. She has a lot in common with Attorney Park, so I hope she will not become like him.
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I kinda feel like InJoo, lost and scattered, after watching ep3. or maybe it was bec I watched it when I was about to sleep. Haha I am conflicted with how the Oh sisters started to get entangled with Park Jae Sang’s family/group. InHye to HyoRin, InKyung to Park JaeSang, and InJoo to the slush fund and the Wons. And how the situation has escalated since ep1.
Also, the name of the orchid was finally mentioned! Epipogium aphyllum, Ghost of Vietnam. I might have to rewatch the ep when my brain is fully awake because everything is just a big ‘?’ to me right now. And I might have been just spewing thoughts here. 🙈 Will catch some Zzs first. Brb!
Agreed Injoo and Inkyung really messed up big time. I get why Injoo did it, but from the standpoint that they know their family is poor hence how they roped Inhye into doing what they want, that’s not the smartest thing to come in super expensive shoes and have that all in cash. Inkyung brashly threatening them and giving away her biggest weakness which is Inhye, well I get she was drunk, but that’s definitely going to come back to bite them.
It’s interesting what great aunt said about hating Injoo when she was younger for smiling at everyone instead of being shrewd. She seems like a very practical/shrewd person; interested in how she became that way, mentioning how it will come back as a slap to your face.
There’s a lot of resentment that Inhye has for her sisters, so I’m curious now that Park Jaesang has shared his story, what she is going to do. Also does anyone know what the whole emphasis about Ariadne and what it represents? Was her story the one about mazes and labyrinths… and does it bother anyone else that they switch it around in Korean like it’s Adriane? 😅
Ah and I forgot to ask this, but how can we get the password to the previous post? Thank you so much! 😊
Welcome to the blog, @AlpacaLlamas.
The password has been removed. I’m still missing screenshots but oh well. I just don’t have time, and I need to move on to other things.
@AlpacaLlamas, Ariadne was a Cretan princess who was in charge of the Labyrinth, the dwelling of the monstrous Minotaur. Every 7 years young men and women had to be sacrificed to the Minotaur. Ariadne fell in love with Theseus, one of the sacrificial victims, and helped him slay the minotaur and find his way out of the labyrinth (she gave him a string of yarn/thread to follow).
I still don’t see the connection between the myth and the drama, but maybe it will be explained.
I’ve watched episode 3 but not episode 4 and wanted to see if there was discussion yet on Ariadne’s significance. My first thought when she was brought up during the family dinner was to the goddess? who led the way out of the maze, but the context in which she was mentioned talked about her physical resemblance. I did some light googling and there’s a sculpture in the louve titled The Head of Ariadne, which needed restoration because a piece of the nose was missing, there’s a painting by Titian depicting bacchus and Ariadne, and I’m sure there’s many other instances in art where Ariadne is depicted but, how did she see the doll in the house and decide that was Ariadne?
What’s the timestamp of this Ariadne conversation, @birdie007? I can take a look before bedtime. 😴
Episode 3 around the 34 min mark and then 1:11 mark.
Sorry if it double posts but I don’t see my reply. Ep 3 34 min mark and 1:11 mark
Ep 3 34 min and 1:11 min
Yikes 🤦🏼♀️ There they are
Maybe Ariadne is likened to HyoRin’s mom. It was mentioned by HyoRin during their interview (while Park Jae Sang was grilling meat in their outdoor area) that InHye said HY’s mom had the same nose as Ariadne. If we’re to pattern it to the myth, I thought maybe in InHye’s perspective, Hyorin’s mom might help her to escape her ‘poverty’ labyrinth.
Hello All! What I found really interesting in episode 3 is that Hyorin doesn’t have friends. When Inkyung was asking for Inhye outside of the school, the classmates told her that Inhye went to Hyorin’s home as a party guest. They then started laughing saying they were surprised Hyorin has any friends. I know this is a tiny detail, but I think it may mean something or may lead to something. This is a prestigious arts school, so everyone there is affluent; you’d think Hyorin would be queen bee. You would also think that Inhye, attending on scholarship, would be the one they ostracize. Inhye seems to be just fine at school. Do you guys think this may signify something?
After watching Ep4, all I can say is that IH has a very strange (unnatural to me) definition of how she wants to be “admired”/“loved”. She resents the love (to the point of smothering sometimes) her sisters lavish on her. She adores being “adored” and “fawned” over by the Parks. They love her for what she can do. Her artistic talent. So much so that she’s sold her soul to them. Everything they do is right in her eyes. They can do no wrong. They are a creepy family. Their daughter HyoRin included.
Mrs Park has a basement with a tree that is overflowing with those orchids. Is she the puppeteer? Why did Unnie set up a whole life for IJ? Was it really out of the goodness of her heart? Or did she do this so (fake her death) to get the hounds off her tail and set them on IJ instead? Why would Mrs Park need a “friend”? Because her hubby needed a mistress? Her relationship with Attorney Park is so saccharine that it has to be fake.
I know Choi seems like a rather grey character but even though he seems to be on Park’s payroll, I trust him. I still haven’t worked out what his story is but my gut feel is that he’s “good”.
@nrllee, I am still not sure about Choi Do Il. He is grey for sure, but could it be because he is undercover? At this point none of the characters are trustworthy.
I suspect that Attorney Park’s father found the orchid in Vietnam and brought it to General Won. It remains to be seen who is the master puppeteer and Blue Orchid Boss: Attorney Park? His wife? Her brother?
@whykai97. HyoRin lives a very curated life. Her mother probably decides who can or cannot be her friends. It’s all part of the veneer to increase PJS’s chances of getting into the Blue House (Presidency). HyoRin seems almost too perfect. There has to be cracks which she may reveal later on. It amazes me that she show zero jealousy over how her parents treat IH and how she was completely okay with pretending to have done her own portrait. IH (and IJ) is like a rare orchid that Mrs Park “collects”. Mrs Park knows she can “control” IH. She had her team do background checks on IH (don’t ask me why her team overlooked IH’s sisters in the process. That was a big oversight/plot hole). IH selected was a boost to their charitable status – they were helping out a poor child achieve her dreams (all in front of the TV).
@SnowFlower I wondered that too. If Choi was undercover for some government agency trying to investigate Attorney Park. He sure seems to act like one. The reason I swung in favour of him was because he warned IJ about the mean lady. And then stepped in to stop the beating (gosh that was hard to watch 😬).
@nrllee, that scene with the mean lady was seriously disturbing. I was relieved when Do Il showed up.
Finally finished all 4 eps too! I agree @nrllee @Snowflower I had to fast forward the beating scenes.
I have to thank @pm3 too for a very comprehensive take on Ariadne.
I also had a “i knew it” moment when it was revealed that the money was transferred to IJ, since the documents she signed were a bank application form. But my question is why InJoo? And the scenes shown wherein Unnie and InJoo were happily bonding in Singapore – was it from her memory? was it an imagination?
I would also say Mrs. Park’s behavior towards Park JaeSang is unbelievably weird and eerie. Her laugh sounded so fake, and the way she just barged into the room and ranted abt InHye’s condition (timestamp 27:21) she might sound like she’s concerned but she’s like controlling her husband.
And regarding InHye- did I understand it right? She wasn’t InSeon (the dying sister), but her mom told her the story and now it’s imprinted on her subconscious mind that it actually affects her and the way she wants to live her life– escaping and running away from poverty?
@jhans yes to IH’s subconscious. I did for a fleeting moment think that perhaps IH was IS. I find it hard to believe that the older siblings (8 and 6) blocked it out from their memories. One I may have allowed but BOTH of them? 🤷♀️. It wouldn’t make sense for Grand Aunt to take IK in if IS didn’t actually die because she refused to lend their father the money back then.
I got confused about the scenes in Singapore as well. It couldn’t have been from memory because IJ didn’t have a clue about Unnie’s second life till after she died. I took it to mean maybe Unnie was pretending to have a friend whilst living in Singapore? I need to rewatch it because it didn’t make sense that Mrs Park seemed to have Unnie as her “friend” when they were in Singapore? And she now wanted IJ to take her spot? It almost seems to parallel the life she’s (Mrs Park) giving her daughter? HyoRin has IH as her companion in Boston and now Mrs Park has IJ. Did you see how Mrs Park pouted when IJ turned down her request to be her friend? It was VERY odd and childish? Why would she pout? 🤔
I have changed my mind about IJ being Jo and IK being Meg. It seems more likely that IJ is modelled after Meg and IK after Jo. Just because of the people and scenarios surrounding them. But personality wise I still feel IJ is more like Jo March. Jo was fiery and spoke her mind. Meg was mild mannered. NJH as IK tries to come across as fiery but somehow her voice and mannerisms just don’t carry enough spark to sizzle. I think that’s why I got confused. KGE is a spitfire and has a grittiness that just screams Jo March. If that’s the case, then IK’s male friend JongDo (?) is Laurie (makes sense because Laurie was rich and lived with his grandfather). And her friend is obviously in love with her but IK doesn’t seem to return in kind.
^sorry my bad. I quickly did a rewatch. The Singapore scenes of IJ and Unnie appeared only right at the end of Ep4 when Choi told her that Unnie had been living as IJ in Singapore. So I think it was just IJ imagining herself there. Which is why Unnie had glassy eyes in those scenes and she finally disappeared (walked off) at the end. It was Unnie’s gift to IJ?
And Mrs Park had Unnie as her companion in Seoul, not Singapore. So odd. IJ was adamant that Unnie would never accept Mrs Park as a “friend”. Mrs Park also loves secrets. Secret relationships (which harbour a thrill). She had IH paint a “secret portrait”. It seems almost juvenile? And the shoes 👠. Director Shin bought her a pair? Why would he do that? Were they having an affair? 🤔
@nrllee Injoo does remember Inseon, doesn’t she? She tells Inkyung about Inseon; while watching, it made sense to me that Injoo wouldn’t know the details of Inseon’s death because Injoo was a child and her parents probably didn’t tell her the details. It doesn’t seem strange to me.
@whykay97 Yes I think IJ remembers. But I couldn’t work out if it was the whole Yoga session that brought it back to the surface? It was all very strange. She was doing Yoga and then there was this whole spiel about going deep into her subconscious…and then we see the flashback scenes of her watching her mom carry IS on her back running to the hospital with IJ running behind her trying to keep up. So I couldn’t work out if she had “forgotten” about it and it was only after she met up with Mrs Park who told her IH was painting a “dead/dying sister” in her portfolio paintings that triggered it? That was what I couldn’t work out.
@nrllee I think IS has always been at the back of IJ’s mind; she was surprised that IH even knows about the incident, and she probably couldn’t help but think about IS while doing yoga. I am assuming we’ll find out more about IS in the upcoming episode. I do think IS is real because it would correspond to the book (the third sister dies of an illness).
@nrllee yes, I noticed how childish she reacted, and had a smile from ear to ear when IJ accepted the offer. As for the shoes, I think @pm3 mentioned, correct me if i’m wrong, maybe Park JaeSang instructed Director Shin to buy those shoes for her since Shin had some obsession with feet and shoes.
@Whykay91 i think it resurfaced because Mrs Park mentioned the painting of a dying unnie to InJoo. Mrs Park thought InHye was referring to InJoo but it was actually another unnie of hers. The way InJoo reacted upon hearing this, I think she wasn’t really hurt but more perplexed and uneasy(?). Then she went to yoga after that, where flashback scenes were shown.
A few questions/thoughts since watching episode 4:
•I think IJ has always known/remembered the third sister (IS) but knew IK had suppressed/forgotten her memories of her so she decided not to burden her with it. Upon discovering IH’s awareness of IS, I think they used the yoga session to help her “go there” so she could find her inner self and why she believes poor=death.
• as far as the reasons IH wants to be loved—I interpreted it as something she can pinpoint that is specific to HER. Since her mother (how awful) told her the story of IS without also issuing reassurance that she loved her for being IH, she came to think of herself as a replacement for the sister and all the reasons her sisters love her are interchangeable with IS because they would love ANY sister and she wants to feel special and individual.
• PJH insinuated he came from a poor family so I didn’t think much of his father during episode 3, but once the aunt mentions him in episode 4, I’m now curious of that backstory.
• still undecided on Unnie’s intentions toward IJ with the money and now everything in Singapore that’s been revealed