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My comments were not going through during the show last week. So I will repost here a post I left after the watch.
My take away is just how good this director is.
@SD I also particularly noted the scene beside the car where the brothers are talking on the phone in split screen. The way the brother huddles against the carcommunicates his despair and pitifulness.
@LL @GB I am not a fan of this actress which maybe why? I forgot all the great kisses.
Because this story is not linear. It is even more confusing sometimes in rewatch. Because I am not sure if a scene has already happened or if I only know about it from previous watches.
So much is going on in the time frame of about an hour while he is in twenty twelve and his brother is out for dinner with his wife and friends , culminating in the scene where sun woo almost kills his brother in anger.
The psy reference was sly. Marks the transition between twenty twelve and twenty thirteen. We can see it playing on the screens in the control room. This was the beginning of the worldwide k pop phenomena.
Spoiler below
We can see in this episode several small moments that herald her remembering her former life. Tears in her eyes when sun woo in bed it’s lovingly looking at her, Saying her last name Joo several times in the car And I think there was another time.
I look forward to tomorrow and remembering what the twist was thatGB Was referring to.
I mean the day after tomorrow.
Thanks @pkml3! You’re very early with this post this week???
It feels as if you’re like us over here and are prepping for the Chinese New Year (many things are closed already and things were done/sent out earlier before people took leave).
Tonight the family reunion celebrations take place and most shops will be closed. Nothing much will be open until maybe Sunday or Monday. It feels like you’re also going to be on leave, so you’ve posted this thread early! LOL.
Alarm clock set! 😉
Didn’t ended MMH episodes yet.
Hi All, I’m here! We start in 1 minute!!
Here too!!!! Hi GB.
Hi @WE! We can start NOW!!!
Hi @GB and @WE. I am here also.
I am here.
Hi @SD!
We’re back in time in Episode 9. I feel a bit disoriented.
Hi there @MM! Jump right in!
Funeral of the horrid father of our Park Sun Woo. And the guilty parties meet with great nervousness.
Hi SD and MM.
It’s start at funeral scene with the child FL.
@WE, it was supposed to be an accident but they really behave like they committed murder. What they are afraid of is being found out that they hid the fact that they were present.
The bad guy is here. NOT SO BAD one, he didn’t killed the father. He just sweeped the thing under the carpet. But probably killed other people with his bad medecine.
Hi @MM. Dr. Choi looking a bit discombobulated to find out there is a potential witness. JW’s hands tremble. Even here he is afraid of Dr. Choe.
My impression from watching dramas and doing a bit of reading online. Is that self defense is not much of a defense in south korea. By extensioncomma, I wonder if an accident like this is still somewhat treated as murder With a big punishment. Also, in an earlier episode, someone said it was patricide. And I think that adds a few years on to any sentence.
We find that Choi JC is smart enough, and strangely willing to believe in time travel, if he can put together the things SW’s mum told him and guess that SW’s ability to get the video recordings and be recognised by his mother, meant he was able to meet his mother as an adult, 20 years in the past.
The bad guy start to becomes aware. The script have some comedy, for all the characters knowing the thruth. They live quietly and suddenly BANG-wrlwlwltlllll… time tornado in their mind. They remember something else, or maybe, aren’t anymore who and where they are.
LOL @WE, we need proof that he killed others with bad medicine. Later we will see if he’s able and willing to kill.
One of the most interesting things for me about this time travel plot is the way the modern day person’s memory ‘updates’ based on the revised past, but only at the exact time 20 years later that the new memory was created. I don’t think I have seen this motif elsewhere.
@SD, I’m at the point where SW is still treating his niece like his lover… poor girl is the one who is discombobulated!!!
@MM, yes, the hiding of the real circumstances of the death, and the fact that family members were involved would put a black mark against SW and his brother for life.
The FL starts to be confused. Had I already said that? I think she has a huch for her dear oncle since a long time. 🙂
@WE, not only the bad guy but the so-called not so smart Min Young are beginning to put 2-and-2 together. I guess script has to make it possible for them to figure it out or it would be somewhat stagnating.
I enjoyed the acting of the villain character when you see it dawning on him That here is an opportunity. This may have been in the last episode. hIs facial expression was overacted and it was very amusing
@SD, that’s true. This show has a clear logic with how people are affected 20 years in the future. It was one of the things that I liked about this show.
@SD, it’s complicated time travel stuff to write. There is a trigger event in the past. So the person in present wait a variable time (same time than between the time travel and the triggered event). Then FLllluussshhh, all consequences of the trigger comes into place at once, a new life rewritten.
The pure logic (hard sf) would be the change is immediate, but as a high-concept, it’s simpler, and not able to trigger so good emotional scenes than 9.
@MM, yes, this bad guy senior actor tends to exaggerate his facial expressions. I can’t say I like him in his roles but he sure makes what he feels obvious to the viewer!
Damn scene. The poor girl goes into forced mariage because of the cringe initiative of the “maybe-boyfriend”. 😀
We find that again it is doctor friend who brings in the ‘Christian’ concept. He was waiting for a miracle and thus delayed insisting on getting SW to have surgery.
LOL the other doctor asked if he was waiting for an exorcism!!
@WE that irritating doctor boyfriend of Min Yeong’s is too much in a rush to pin her down in the relationship.
@GB, He feels somehow she’s escaping. He needs to pin her down! 🙂
Poor YH. He is so put upon. He has the earliest complete memories of both the past as it was before all the time change and the time changes. And he has to cover for SW constantly (and poorly, Min Young is very good at sussing out the lies).
@WE, I kind of like this time travel travel concept, both for the emotional scenes as you mention, but also as an underlying psychological tension, internal to the characters who realize what is going on, to have to hold all these different times in their minds. I realized later in this show that for each character, as they are aging sequentially, the memories are also sequential even when the changes are extreme as they were for YH and SW. But still an interesting idea.
@GB re villain’s facial expressions 😂yes very obvious
What a farewell phone call that was of SW giving his brother his last will and advice. Touching.
And from a distraught Young Hoon we jump to the past when a happy-go-lucky YH comes to SW’s house to find out that tragedy has struck SW.
Split screen in the present and in the past Young Hoon runs to Sun Woo.
@SD, more angst as SW expects to die and YH is the one who has to do the surgery. A young YH also cries 20 years earlier in hospital.
@MM the other actor with obvious facial expressions could be actor Lee Yi Kyung (the young Young Hoon) (and now the horrid husband in Marry My Husband).
Now we find that the 3rd person putting 2-and-2 together is the young Sun Woo himself who believes in his 38-year old self.
I like the way the scene with the young brothers. The actor playing JW does such a good job at displaying his grief at the pain he has caused his younger brother, who believes if he had only gotten there earlier he could have saved his father. JW knows this is not true and his legs start to give out under him. So well done by both actors. Then, quick scene change to the modern day brother signing his resignation letter and hiding it when Min Young pops into his office.
Aaah, this episode is crazy. The hero dies!!
But an event is on the way to be triggered in the past.
SO………….
Scene transition: the friend cries in present.
Jump to past: he cries here too.
Can’t believe Kang Seo Joon is proposing to Min Yeong over the phone so fast. They have only been dating a few weeks. He’s in an almighty hurry. But just in the nick of time she can’t answer him.
@WE I love the ending of this episode!!! Best twist EVER!
In the past, 38-year old Sun Woo does not come as expected and young Young Hoon is stood up.
In the present, 38-year old SW is dying under surgery and the 38-year old YH is with him and distraught.
All this while the young SW is thinking about how he has to save himself.
@GB, it’s close to the level of mariage proposal in MMH. LOL. On the phone. Crazy dude. SJJ has great sens of irony too.
@SD Yes, I noted that Scene as well.
I can’t remember why he is Resigning? Is it for a particular reason?
Also I like the doctor character’s comment Referring to how could he have believed in time travelremedy if he is a doctor? faith/fantasy vs science theme.
The phone calls between SW and YH are so important … like in Queen In Hyun’s Man!
Such great irony! We we find that the young Yong Hoon goes to SW’s room in 1992 only to find the very thing that can save the young and future Sun Woo, even while in 2012, YH watches SW die!!! But then YH recalls the phone call!
SPOILER
@WE The phone call that saves SW’s life is from YH to the doctor to ask about the medication from 2012 that he finds in 1992.
Lot of slllurrrrpp the blood.
@GB, yeahhhhh, but first the hero dies. 🙂
THEN, surprise… there was a pill behind a piece of furniture.
@MM, I guess Jung Woo is resigning because his brother knows he had something to do with his father’s death and it will be found out. He is also a drug addict and can’t keep up appearances much longer.
The in between phone call between Min Yeong and YH… and how he recalls just before he tells her that SW is dead. Great dramatic timing!
The hero needed Alien Surgeon to survive. 😀
LOL @WE, Alien Surgeon would have saved the patient and maybe alienated everyone else.
The moment of truth! Did knowing about the brain tumour in 1992 have any effect on 2012!! And the Blessing of the bell is announced by none other than Sun Woo himself in a new 2012!!!
LOL YH rejoices that he saved his friend after all, although operating on him would have killed him.
It’s painful to say he’s dead, but she force him to repeat, lol. THen…
sshhshwwlllrlrlrrhppphllppppp moment.
@MM, @SD… have you come to the end yet? What did you think of it?
90° shot when he runs in the hospital, ‘coz it’s…
MIND BLOWING !!!!!
The thing about remembering only 20 years later at a certain point… it was sheer fluke that the medicine of 2012 could have been found by YH in 1992… if not for the dropped coin that he wanted to retrieve, SW would likely have died in 2012.
Well I’ve finished being mind blown! Bye everyone! See you next week!
Bye bye everyone!
@GB I just finished it now. It is the episode that most stands out in my mind When I think about the this drama. The emotional engagement is strong and I really felt the strength of their Friendship.
The juxtaposition of events in twenty twelve and nineteen ninety two was so well done. A seamless narrative covering two timelines.
I had always assumed the brother did not remember the past lives. But in this episode I wondered if he has remembered Other timelines?
About the boyfriend, I think he is mostly there As a plot device for future episodes.
spoiler for future episodes.
I don’t think I had previously thought about how many times he dies in this drama but this is just the first. I think there are at least two more close calls if not actual deaths.
Another aspect of this time travel device. If you are the one affected, if yours is the timeline that changes, you do not remember. Only YH will remember what happened, that SW died in surgery in the previous timeline. This timeline’s SW will not know that. He will however, remember about the pills and the glioblastoma.
Love this episode!
See you all next week.
@SD Regarding time travel concepts. I did not understand what you were saying about. As a character ages the memories being sequential or something like that.
I also noted your comment about.
Who remembers the time lines And who does Not. I did not grasp your example of sunwoo not remembering he was operated on.
That was so intense I almost fainted when I stood up!
@MM, The interesting logic about when the memories of 20 years ago kicks in is that although it happened in the past, the 2012 people don’t know it yet, until their time in 2012 hits the exact time of an event 20 years before.
So if Young Hoon found out what glioblastoma was at 2am on 10 May 1992, the memory only comes in at 2am on 10 May in 2012. It’s a strange concept because one would think everything that happened could be remembered in 2012 at any time.
As for the other concept of who remembers what …
Sun Woo managed to avoid the glioblastoma and hence never had the surgery. For his part, it never happened, therefore he cannot ‘remember’ it or that he had died in the 2012 Timeline 1.0. YH being the one who was not affected but who had been aware from early on, becomes the only one who recalls the ‘end’ of 2012 Timeline 1.0.
TY that is helpful. I look forward to watching the rest of the drama with the insights I have gained from our conversations up until now.
@MM I’m glad if I was of help and I hope I was accurate in the interpretation of the logic. We have to watch another 11 episodes to see if the logic holds true.
I actually cannot remember the rest of the Show and have to rewatch before the rewatch so that I won’t be dumbfounded all over again! 😉
Thanks @GB for explaining the time travel concepts so logically! Better than my hurried comments. I am on my first watch (episode 15) while I am doing this rewatch (too many other good Korean and Chinese shows to watch right now!). Anyway, I guess we will find out if the logic holds true.
My pleasure @SD! I hope I was saying what you meant… or rather that our understanding of the logic aligned. 🙂
NINE: Nine Times TIME TRAVEL
(what a mouthful this title has been for me since I watched it)
I watched it in the early days of my KDramaverse travels (maybe 2021) and was bowled over by how well the TIME LOOPS worked!!
It had a novel way to deal with the back and forth in in Time Axis..
It is possibly the best role of (IMO) of Lee Jin Wook (other than in one of the Stories of I NEED ROMANCE) ~ he’s GOOD LOOKING but I always find him fall flat and unable to emote and ‘move the viewer’
I gave it a 10/10 back then .. Not sure if it was in the flush of new comer to Kdrama .. and if it will hold still if I rewatched it.
The fact the BOD has picked it up and there is such LIVELY buzz here I feel I wasn’t ALL ‘new love’ mode when the show swept me off my feet.
OH the FL .. LOVED her too. She didn’t do (IMO) anything else as significant (I had tracked her shows post NNTTT).
I recall the goosebump I got when she ‘vanishes’ WAH!!! that just blew me away into an EXISTENTIAL CRISIS along with ML character.