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7.00am PST
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10.00am Caracas
2.00pm in London
4.00pm in Paris
4.00pm in Athens
10.00pm in Singapore
Enjoy the show!
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Thanks for the early thread @pkml3!
Hi @MM!
Hello All, I will be missing again this weekend. The last two weekends I have had commitments related to church – sing with the choir at a funeral, help a young women in discernment; this weekend I will be traveling to see my oldest son who turns 30 (!) this next week. I will catch up with the re-watches and will be available for next week’s viewing. Finally. Have fun!
Hi @SD, thanks for the update and letting us know. Yes, next week is the FINALE!!! It will be a happy ending, because all the timelines SW created had merged into one. I liked it.
It’s a slow episode, BUT:
There is the most awesome “multi-contextual” scene SJJ ever made.
First time I watched, it was such a SHOCK !!!
Alarm is set, see you later. 😉
HI ALL, will be leaving shortly for hair appointment so will catch up with your comments when I get back home.
@WE, yes slow episode. Don’t think I’ve ever been happier than when truck of doom ends up taking out the villain!
I am excited. I think there is a lot I can learn about some of the basic principles of time travel by understanding these last few episodes.
It sounds like most of us have already rewatched this episode.
Hi MM.
Hello, @WE @MM.
Hi LL.
It’s time, let’s GOOOOOOOO!
Hi WE GB @LL SD look forward to connecting next week
Hi FF,
Starts with Friend listening messages.
But what’s nice: SW didn’t ended yet to record all the messages in our screentime. We see there are 5.
Episode starts with Yong Hoon listening to SW’s messages.
We see the painful accident again.
By the way, there is a kind of scene-hole.
Because we see the car hitting the wall almost, but later, the car is in fact 2 meters aways. ^^
The villain Choi pouts his lips when he is angry, pouts his lips when he is excited, pouts his lips after he drive his car into SW. Has he no other way to express himself?
@FF, I don’t remember one single drama where this actor didn’t play a bad guy. 😀
Sorry, I’m late…. I’m falling asleep so I may come and go!
Where are you at in Ep 19?
@GB, at 8:14
While the TV producer. See, here he’s a good guy, but was the villain in QIHM. 😉
I use him in my own drama (W s2) for a small role, but he’s a good guy in this. (he’s doctor)
SW is so tenacious, he could still record messages when he is so badly injured. SJJ always makes the ML almost like a superhero.
Hi GB.
Maybe the time of rewatch is too late?
It’s one hour later now, and conflict with your bedtime?
Thanks @FF! OK the non-stop rain and the horrible scene of murder, just before the victim becomes a corpse.
Yes, I believe most of us have rewatched this episode. It’s slow and painful, most of the time.
the effort to find the handphone Sunwoo,the police, his reporter colleaugue
The audience also thinking about the handphone is pulled in when one of his colleaugues asked why the police or whoever cannot locate the phone. The station boss looks like he is realizing something now that he has become involved with the time travel
@WE the guy who is SW’s boss? Yes, he is the villain in QIHM.
@FF, that’s true. Male leads who are badly injured but can carry on living.
Poor MY. What a contrast between the smiling portraits and the sad real person.
Hi @WE, I don’t have Daylight Savings time, but I’m still generally sleepy. I was out and got back but didn’t have a time to rest before our party.
Poor Young Hoon waits like the faithful ‘dog’/friend he is.
The only logical conclusion they can make, as he doesn’t come back: he’s dead.
They can’t guess the last time travel is one way only.
And anyway, he will also dies. lololol! 😀
@GB, now that rewatching time is later, I’ll go to buy grocery before, so I was also out. 😉
Choi reveals everything.
He knows the law can’t do anything agains him.
And proud to says it to the brother, while smiling. Ugly bastard!!!!!!! 🙂
@WE, yes Saturday might be grocery shopping day. I was out for hours at a meeting of sorts and then dinner. Full and sleepy now!
Hah! Choi looks like a decrepit old man. Loved SW’s revenge upon him.
He calls him ‘son of a bitch’, forgetting that he’s the one who got the bitch pregnant so he’s the real dog!
Note this: during first watch, we can still hope the hero will survive in any way. But the best twist is sometimes: nothing save the day! 😉
Choi Jin Cheol is still shows no remorse when Jung Woo confronts him. He is one of the worst characters that I have ever seen in Kdramas.
@Gb I am surprised that Yong Hoon waited 6 hours by the roadside next to SW’s car hoping that SW will show up. That is really like a faithful dog.
I wonder what difference it would really make to Choi if he’d found out from the beginning that JW was his son. Would he really have done anything differently.
Star wars reverse revelation:
– You are my father.
– Noooooooooo.
😀
So sad for
sunwoo to hear his ‘father’ alk that way-blaming the brothers for his downfall and taking glee in having killed Sunwoo.
Now Jung Woo gives Choi a shock by saying he prayed for him every day LOL.
I meant Jung woo. Good acting
@GB, he caused so much dammage to his own son…
@FF, Yes, Choi, to me, is one of the worst was evil guys in a kdrama. He was bad from when he was younger. He has no remorse. He stops at nothing to get what he wants. He boasts about his crimes.
I spotted an album by Santana.
@MM
This Show’s plot hangs first from the sins of the fathers. If Choi had not been jealous of SW’s father, and raped his fiance and then if SW’s dad had not treated his wife with contempt, JW wouldn’t have accidentally killed him. All the convoluted plot would not have happened if the 2 fathers had been better people.
The villain has to suffer in every aspect of his life for the bad he did, SPLENDID!
Now, the woman he raped and made mad can’t say him anything.
@WE, but would his son’s existence have stopped him from trying to ruin SW’s father anyway and to take the coveted Director position.
So painful for the brother and Young Hoon to find out that SW died alone in such a horrible way.
Poor MY with that complaining mother of hers. No wonder she covers her ears against hearing her mother’s voice.
@GB I do not think it would have changed his evil mind. It may have changed how he carried out his crimes. Maybe he would have done worse of that is possible.
@GB, I think Choi would do more bad things to ruin SW’s father so that he can take over the hospital and eventually passed it on to JW. The man knows no remorse.
Finally, he is dead.
I found it illustrative of his evil that he had to think for a moment before the memory of raping JW’s mother came to mind.
Scene full of irony with the flashback of Choi happy that is Son fly away (but isn’t). As a last flashback in his death moment.
@MM, perhaps yes… he wouldn’t have changed much even knowing he had a son. Things would have been worse for HW and his mother once it was confirmed that he’s Choi’s son.
So now Choi also lies dead in the present while in the past he’s still trying to get away with murder, literally, and still wants JW to run away without confessing their crimes. However JW has finally stepped up and won’t turn back. SW’s boss is the unexpected hero who helped the brothers come clean and change JW’s sad fate.
@GB, we can’t be sure if it would stop him.
But he says it in his last phone call.
So, grant it the benefice of the doubt.
Yeah, maybe he could change his destiny.
@FF, yes, I somehow don’t think knowing about JW would have changed Choi much.
So sad for Young Hoon to listen to the messages now…
What does SW during all the episodes:
Hey guys, I’m dying… slowly….. T T
@MM, as in Choi had wiped away all memory of the evil he’d done?
We don’t really get to hear the last message? Instead we see SW still being rained on. So painful.
In the scene in the nursing home is Choi saying his motivation for his behavior was because she went with his competitor? Another justification for his evel.
@WE, which is the multi-contextual scene that you raved about?
The fun thing: place where SW is dying is Jogno-3a. And it’s the place I choose for my drama “Bookstore where you rent my heart”, Ikseang dong village. Ofc, I put various photos of this place and put the line:
It’s “the heart and soul of Seoul”. 😉
@MM he will always blame someone else for the evil he does.
In contrast, SW says he’s the incense stick and JW takes responsibility for his accidental crime.
@GB, it’s coming, soooooooonnnnnnn. 😀
Get ready for the A-MA-ZING BLAAAAAAST !!!
What an incredibly sad way to die and for them to find out about it.
@WE, is it the Min Young adult and Min Young child scene?
@MM, an endless suffering. T T… 😀
@GB, OF COURSE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Let’s see how SJJ set-up that! 😉
First, the mother is interfering, but she put the heroin alone in the kitchen.
Time-change memory: she was here, in this place where he dies!!!!!
Real-time timme-change memory, with freezing music.
Split screen making understand, she sees him in present time, as she saw him as a child.
GOSH, my blood gets already goosebumps.
Continues Split screen, so the heroine in present time learn that and see it, AS IF it were real in present time, when it’s in the past.
@WE, as SW records saying MY’s name and goes unconscious, while the adult MY is stuck with a needy mother, the child MY actually comes by and sees dying SW.
Child MY comes after the rain has stopped, adult MY suddenly gets the memory of that time and drops the glass of water.
SW and child MY recognise each other, and we see the split screen of adult MY remembering SW dying. She actually sees her memory as he dies at that time. Really such a terrible memory to get on what should have been her wedding day.
What should I say about young Min Young meeting the adult SW? It is such a complicated scene. The adult Min Young recalling how she saw the injured man whom she is supposed to marry. How painful is that.
Hats off to SJJ, so great at planting surprises!
And so, she sees him DYING now!!!
Just the DA-SHIT!!!
Yeah, here it’s time for tears and lot of crying.
Poor heroine in present time, striked with that.
And to BOOT: ends with the moment his hand falls down.
She SAW his real death!!!!!!
ARARRARAARAAAAAAHRAHHRHRHHAHRHAHRRHAHRHAHRHA!!!!
@WE, the best part together with the split screen is the advice that SW gives which informs us why MY was afraid to get close to him at first, although she was attracted to him from the start.
In the present she cries, as a child she hesitates to do a pinky swear with a dying man.
I wonder what MY’s mother is doing while she’s crying like that in the kitchen.
We end on the pinky swear… the last touch of SW with the child MY who should have been his wife.
The way Min Young cries is so heart wrenching, they split the screen SW on the left and crying MY on the right. So painful to watch.
yes an amazing scene!
@GB Choi has no awareness of his criminality so his crimes are not at all in his conscious awareness. A PSYCOPATH par excellence
@WE, yes that was a GREAT scene! It was designed so well, with the right music, the right expressions on even the child compared to the adult. So even at the end, SW had MY by his side, but the MY of the wrong age. And the adult MY also found herself beside SW in real time but 20 years away!
@GB, yeah yeah, the advice will play in next episode. And also, it’s so much like is their relationship. Damnit.
Aaahhhahhaaaaaaa, such a good scene. Wash my memory of lot of poor dramas.
I T – R O C K S !
But I’ve to admit, any “multicontextual” scenes from SJJ are always a big blast, and the one in Ep5 of MOTA was also really powerfullll.
@FF, they did the scene so well. We seldom get split screens but SJJ uses them quite a lot. She has so much she needs to convey in the same moment.
@MM Yes, ‘psychopath’ does describe Choi too!
@WE, I can’t recall what scene it was in MOTA Ep 5. The reality and virtual reality merging with the death of whats-his-name?
@GB, the death of Hyeon Seok (Jin Woo’s friend)?
@GB, tsss, tssssssss!!!!
Hospital parking lot! Multicontextual scene.
Gets a hug. Real love for heroine, but just use of the high-concept to make wait the deadly enemy with a one-minute obstacle. DA DA DAAAAA!
@FF oh yes, Hyeon Suk! I forget all names at the end of a show! LOL.
See you all next week.
Friends, we are now one step away from LAST episodes.
Always sad, but next drama is also BIG quality!
I leave you now, time pass.
Have a good week everybody.
I’m coming later (or tomorrow) for last comments.
@WE, Ah yes, that scene… I was thinking of that as well … use a real person to protect him from a virtual killer, using the rules of the game. That was what Park Shin Hye’s character was for. Her role seemed minimal but she was important from time to time.
Bye @FF, @LL, @MM, @WE!
Going to sleep!!! See you next week for the FINALE!
SW seems to equate the incense sticks with the apple in the garden of Eden. He has broached the power of the deities. The symbols/motife of Christianity and Buddhism merge. He continues to say more. I wil need to think about that more.
Goodbye for today.
In retrospect this scene has hope planted in it-that she will again meet a man who looks like him. Sure did not pick that up the first time. This scene was so well done that I had the physical experience of my heart feeling squeezed.
See everyone next week!