NO SPOILERS AHEAD. SAFE !

I enjoyed tonight 🙂 work was rocky so really needed something that didn’t replicate real life. If you know what I mean @GB 😉

I like the story, the lack of unnecessary melodrama (so far but we’re almost half way through. fingers crossed they won’t wreck themselves) and I love both the leads.

I love the absolute well meaning chaos that is Im Sol. She tries her hardest to be there for people she loves, be it family or be it Sun Jae. But she’s very chaotic 😄

Fin.

It was a good episode. Let us see where this will head to…

More episode 7 spoilers:

There are some things besides the taxi driver’s jail term (mentioned in my previous post) that seem to me to be either mysterious or ominous. What do you think?

Grandmother may know that in another ‘universe’ Im Sol’s legs were hurt. She asks Im Sol to stay.

Im Sol told her brother that if she hadn’t been hurt, he might still be an aspiring actor. (46.14) He replies, “A door closes and a door opens. There is no happiness without paying a price.” What is he referring to?

The weather report at 49.58: “Today’s weather is expected to be sunny and clear. The high will be around 1 degree Celsius. In the east, the land is expected to get drier. There may be wind. Please make sure small flames do not turn into fire. Be safe when using indoor heaters. Take precaution against indoor fires.” This weather report seems to have gone on a tangent to include fire warnings, which seems notable. It can’t be a coincidence, right?

So Im Sol no longer has the watch and she thinks this is the end of the story, but the watch still had one more trip back in history. I wonder who bid on the watch if not her? Will that person be sent back, or will it still be Im Sol?

I liked how Sun Jae offered to take Im Sol out for a cup of tea in the middle of the night.

The blue shirt out the window? Did I miss something?

My sort of speculation, Sol will realise belatedly that it wasn’t a suicide but a murder. In the final try, she saves him successfully but isn’t able to avoid her own injury in the process. The “cause” is still SJ and she still gets hurt. The “price” she’ll pay for her happiness that is watching SJ be alive.

I think what will change is her reaction to what happened. Instead of pushing him away, she’d hold him close. She also has a vast experience of handing disability and knowledge of how Sun Jae had loved her across time and possibilities. She’d deal with it better and it wouldn’t hold her back like before – similar to Twinkling Watermelon.

Or it could go the MMH way where the future is totally different. We’ll see. But somehow I think this writer knows where she wants to go so far.

@Monmor 31.35 time stamp ep 7. You may want to reduce playback speed because it’s super fast.

Sol says I don’t think I need to go back (in time) now. It’s all better now. It’s all good. And falls asleep.

Begin super fast dream

She’s tumbling around in some dilapidated building – SJ is running towards her in the same way as during accident of T0 – in the PoV his face is a blur but it’s him who else 🙄 – A fight similar to what we now know happened in T0 – SJ is thrown out of a window. The glass breaks and Sol wakes up.

@Fern,
I was a ‘scaredy cat’ and FFD/skip watched the parts where I knew IS would get caught and had to escape. I’m surprised that she was caught in front of the taxi and not from behind! Was there an accomplice who grabbed her from the front?

I found Episode 7 highly amusing after IS’s T3 return. I also noted the same scenes as yourself about how the original timeline memories might be with Granny who has dementia. I didn’t catch the part about the perpetrator’s jail sentence and whether he would be let out at this time in the show. What date is the concert now?

So, we have an interesting change each time IS returns. She’s back some time after the clock time on which she left her timeline. Things that happened in T1 now have taken place later in her return from T3, like her getting abducted and the concert.

And interesting too that some things stay similar. But it’s consistent. Just as in the past she was hit in the head by a ball regardless of when, so too now, she gets the job after the interview which she could not originally get, her phone is knocked out of her hand again, it snows again although it’s not supposed to.

The important difference was the basket of yellow flowers and her name card. Loved the iconic meetings on that bridge. Once again, it’s the choice to go forwards or backwards. I trust that both IS and SJ want to go forwards towards more life-giving choices. There’s just that nasty matter of that supernatural watch whose button might get pressed by someone, some time!

LOL I couldn’t get over how SJ was taking photos of his wet underwear to send to IS!!!!

It’s not midnight but the wee hours in London, would you like to join me for a cuppa? ☕😄

@Monmor my bet would be that this did not happen in T0 or T1 or current time (current timeline can’t be her “memory”).

This happens in T2. Time traveller Sol avoids accident in her second time travel T2 and returns to present once the accident is avoided. But original Sol is still there. I think what we are shown happens to original Sol left in 2009 after time traveller Sol returns in the present.

The dream is meant to show that the taxi driver is obsessed with her and attacks her multiple times. He is also obsessed with hurting SJ because of same twisted reason. It has happened BEFORE Sol. And it will happen again. History is repeating itself because the cause is not eliminated.

Another clue for this is the new about indoor fires that @Fern mentioned we’re coming in news.

Creepy. It’s very hard to save Sun Jae for Sol with so many blind spots. As @cleo says, the writer is cruel to Sol.

My assumption – he dies again today. I’d be very surprised if that doesn’t happen but we’ll see. She watches him die again and again (the lack of elimination of true cause) because of which ultimately, she’ll be ready to trade her ultimate happiness as of now – which is being able to walk. She’d choose what she can go through and what she can’t – which is a world Sun Jae doesn’t exist in. If this happened, it’ll be a concious choice on her part. She consciously decides to save him.

@GB I think they’re showing her overflowing happiness at being able to walk, drive a car etc because well. Then you’d know how much it meant to her when she traded it. I know it’s a pessimistic thought 🙊

I’m really enjoying this show and didn’t feel a need to comment until today’s episode because I have questions and budding theories(!)

Because they showed the taxi driver glaring at SJ as he was arrested and then in the current time Sol asks about his jail sentence, I’m wondering if he will be the murderer… But then I get caught up trying to figure out if the taxi driver even saw SJ in the original timeline rescuing Sol, so why would he have had a grudge against him and murdered him in the original timeline [is that T0? or T1?]

The other puzzling thing for me was the female(?) stalker in the white puffy jacket that looked just like the one that Sol was wearing. I hope this doesn’t dip into Marvel movie territory and get into alternative timelines, so that another version of Sol is the stalker.

BTW, because it’s by the same writer, I’ve been going back through and skimming True Beauty, to see what the conflicts were (i.e., why the couple didn’t just get together in the first or second episode, what roadblocks were set up, etc.). I’m finding some of the same actors here. One of Ga-Young’s bullies is now her sister-in-law. SJ’s manager was the boyfriend of GY’s best friend. And, of course, Kim Hye-Yoon appeared briefly in one of the early episodes, as a meta-reference to Extraordinary You. It will be fun to see if anyone else from TB shows up here…

@BethB welcome to the party 🥳 the alternative timeline co-existing sounds incredible but might get confusing because then do we have 2 of all characters? 🙈🙈🙈

Good catch with the TB characters! 😄

Yes surely it’s more than a coincidence that the female stalker is part of the same fan club IS used to run.
T2 IS isn’t a fan of SJ any more in 2023! I wonder what happened. She needs to ask her family more questions.

Has the old watch morphed into the fancy brown one?

Late night cuppas are the best!

And what a trusty yellow umbrella! They don’t make them like they used to 😂

@Arihsi, when the brother said “There’s no happiness without paying a price.” I got chills. She is SO happy now – living her dream – that something is bound to change.

In a strange way, in RL I think that if the script ‘cured’ her of her disability it would be a disservice to people with disabilities. I’ve started the C-drama ‘Will Love in Spring’ in which the FL is a very capable person with a disability. Because it’s not a fantasy, it will show how she copes and how society reacts.

@Cleopatra, I was thinking the same about the CCtv, but then when I looked at the scene again, both were wearing the same sort of jacket and jeans and the other woman had her face hidden, so unless it showed the two women colliding on the path, Im Sol still might be in trouble.

And how strange that the sign was the same as the OG fan club slogan.

I hope that the stalker isn’t time travelling, sort of like the evil shaman in Destined for You. I wonder when we will learn of the origin of the time travel. There must be an incident and a power that made it happen in the first place. I wonder if the grandmother is involved somehow. Maybe she is paying a price as well.

@Hana, I can’t do late night cuppas anymore, unless it’s herbal. I would be pleasantly awake for ages. Yes, to the yellow umbrella! It is indeed her colour. The flowers in the basket, her winter scarf as well.

@Growing Beautifully, there wasn’t a mention about the taxi driver/stalker’s prison sentence. I was just surmising that he would get released at some point and probably earlier than for the more complicated crime that he committed in T0. Being a drama, I might expect him to get out fairly soon. 🤨

My heart rate has soared. Time for coffee. I couldn’t get the X to work either, so thank you both very much. @agdr03, you must be very happy.

@Fern I think the clue is that the kidnapper is jailed FOURTEEN years back. Not fifteen. If it was for abducting her on September 1, 2008 as original timeline and T2 as well, it should be FIFTEEN years back.

Also, Sol didn’t talk about her accident. The September 1 T2 abduction was not so traumatic because she was saved in time.

What she doesn’t talk about is YET to happen for us viewers. It’ll happen in her third time travel. It’s the abduction in the dream where SJ gets thrown out of the window.

@cleo I mentioned that in the webtoon the watch belongs to a creepy character. The webtoon is unfinished and original novel isn’t available in English so I have no idea really. In the drama the watch belongs to SJ.

@Fern a time travelling killer is double as scary. It’ll be extra difficult for Sol to keep SJ safe since he doesn’t know either the killer or Sol’s time travels. SJ doesn’t time travel under any circumstances.

However, the watch has only limited chances. Only 3 even for Sol. So, I’m hopeful that it won’t make the story too complicated.

@Agdr03,

I shouldn’t be watching this… O M O! o.O

@Arihsi,

I do remember that part, but if that creep has supernatural powers, then he could change identities / bodies etc. Once, in 2009, he could be the culprit, then, in 2023, that man who bumped on Sol.

Since, we don’t know how the time travel started, we do make assumptions!

@Arihsi, I get it now. So during the years that current IS can’t remember, there was another abduction – in 2009 – that shows up in her dream, but she can’t remember actually, just as she can’t remember getting hired or that she has a car. Is that what you mean? Thanks.

(I was a wee bit chuffed in a self-congratulatory way when the fan merch disappeared from IS’s room. I wonder if it will ever re-appear before the end of the drama or has it gone into the time travel bin.)

I think what I like most about episode 7 is, when they met on the bridge, Sun Jae understands that it’s the right incarnation of Im Sol. It’s the one who remembers him, the one who protected him in High School, and not the T0 Im Sol.

I think back to what made Sun Jae realise that she ‘dreamed’ things that would happen in the future. When he is looking for her after her ‘second’ abduction he speaks to her brother who said she was determined NOT to go out on that particular day. SJ has a flashback to what she said about him getting injured in the future in the arena. That came true. So he can really believe that something will happen to her at the reservoir.

@Arihsi,

Regarding what you are saying with @Fern.

This part she is staring to remember I think hasn’t happened yet. That’s why Sol will return into their university years. I think it is a premonition she has. If that had happened already, then she should have a scar or something her folks to talk about.

Also, @Fern you are right about what her Oppa said to Sol when they were in the Hospital. I’ve got that feeling too. She will lose her ability to walk and yes I am watching “Will Love in Spring” and enjoying the plot for the reason you mentioned!

Lastly, Halmeoni is the person who remembers because she has dementia. In a way, she knows that has happened, but had forgotten about it. That was another foreshadow for Sol losing her ability to walk.

That makes the two of us who feel this way @cleo. I think she’ll loose her ability to walk again too. But this time, just like SHE is the one to put an umbrella over Sun Jae, it’ll be her who’ll save him – and think the “price” was worth it too. The quintessential love story.

@Fern,

My guess is that Sol’s mother gave that too him as token of gratitude or to make things more stirred. It was Sol’s Halmeoni for saving her granddaughter… *winks*

Oh, heavens. @agdr03, good work! 😅👏😍 Sorry for any who didn’t see it.

You are all welcome Ladies! 🙂 It was a nice heart fluttering kiss. I can’t wait to see it again. And again. 😉

I thought it was a good episode and yeah, the bridge scene at the end just made you feel for SJ and IS. That’s a great reason to get SJ to stay with you IS!!! LOL!!! I loved the way she blurted it out too. hahahah

I might really end up becoming IS in real life and will have that ‘Let’s grab Sun Jae and Run!’ placard. LOL!!!

I agree with you @Cleopatra, I thought there must be something about that man who made IS dropped her mobile at the concert in the different timelines. I believe Grandma remembers too about her disability.

Also, I thought there was another person when IS was running away from the taxi. That’s how she got caught then.

@Cleo, I haven’t a clue where this other person came from.

@agdr03,

I think we will find out. IF this man in black is the real culprit, then we will discover it…

NO SPOILERS.

I feel so bad for Sol. It’s her love for a fragile mortal pitched against the impossible; the powers of fate, inevitability and time combined. No rules are known to her. Her memory is a quilt with huge gaps, and well. They meant it when they said she has a “herculean task”. 😢

The writer is cruel, but to Sol @cleo. Sun Jae gets his love all right. In fact he gets it 3 times over. He gets to have a love that will fight against powers of time again and again to save him.

I wondered about the capsule as well, @Janey. They buried it near the house but the area was re-developed. I was guessing that the paper bag contained the time capsule, but we don’t know.

The last time I saw a watch was when SJ was holding one in TO outside of the ER waiting room. It looked like his watch, but it seemed broken in a way so it couldn’t be worn?

Weird theories follow.
My question is: did the watch that IS bid for actually belong to SJ or was it the same sort that belonged to someone else and got sold fraudulently as his watch? It may actually have belonged to someone else and the shaman person or someone else bad is trying to get it back. OR, if it belonged to Sun Jae, someone put a spell on it, for good or bad reasons and the shaman person or others are trying to get it back.

The little folding clock looks vintage, the style is like something that might have come from the 60s or 70s pre-digital. It also looks like a good quality item, the sort of little travel clock that would have been bought at a good jeweler’s shop. But that’s just how it looks to me.

A phone is also used as a watch these days (ahem, all of my family except me are allergic to watches.) Knocking a phone so it doesn’t work will also destroy a timepiece in a sense.

You guys… You please watch the ep so that we can feel bad for Sol together like we did for Sun Jae. Girl is trying hard. Some may say she misses clues at times but it’s not for the lack of trying.

Also, she wastes no time.

@Arihsi,

I will do so shortly!

From what you are saying and implying, Sol didn’t save him in this timeline, right?

Whenever we see an incident from another perspective, the recipient of cruelty changes…

I will be prepared…!

*hugs*

I am frustrated at the moment. We don’t get a preview for Episode 9 making it difficult with that plot twist!

@Arihsi, it is hard for Sol, this time around. It was hard for Sun Jae in the between. As I have told before, the Creator of the Universe is cruel.

I need to say though, that we are right and right again! LOL!

And, that we get to see a glimpse of a face I wanted to see again!

P.S. TVN drama has the preview for Episode 9 with no english subs and yes we have Time Travel No. 3 next week… o.O

https://www.instagram.com/p/C6YyqM_vFHg/?hl=el

So why, oh why did Sun Jae open the door when he knew it wasn’t his manager? I guess we will get a replay next week with more details.

Thanks all for the warning, it helped me to prepare for the ending. I’m rooting for this couple so much! And yes I do want to see it again and again…

Spoiler:

I love that SJ went back for her whenever he was drunk. Flowers in hand. Would things have been different if he had continued to woo her over the past 15 years?

What pills was SJ hiding from IS?

And Tae Sung made an appearance! Did he time travel?

Off to watch the “making” video…

Annyeong,

Ep 8 ~ recap n …

June 2022. Before they remove the garden where our OTP buried the time capsule, in comes SJ with a shovel ready to dig it out.

Jan 1 2023, SJ is on Han river bridge waiting for IS to show up- date set up 15 years ago. DS, his mngr, called him asking what he’s doing? DS confirmed he got stood up for sure. In his apartment, he opened it and read IS’s letter… thank you for being alive. Her gift to him is an old fashioned clock box “passing time”.

After the Concert, the same guy from the first timeline bumps IS’s phone off. It’s the villain. Ugh!!😩

In the dressing room, SJ confirmed that it has been IS all along -the Bon Cinema employee and stalker all in one- who has been trying to see him. He ran outside but she’s not there. He remembered the other meeting place. When he saw the girl under the umbrella, he wasn’t sure if it’s IS so he called her phone. She turns around and 😳 there’s SJ 💕

I love how quick minded IS was that she didn’t realize how intimate her proposition is. I love how SJ went with it, got the car making him look like he’s picking up and it’s her car 🤩

So funny when they arrived at their destination, it is his fave hotel suite. She kept stopping SJ and finally said she doesn’t mean SEXY night coz she’s kind of conservative HAHAHAH. Total misunderstanding coz SJ was actually taking her to the lounge bar 🥂🍹🍸 hahaha

They both lied about showing up at the bridge on NY’s Eve. IS said she was ok even though they didn’t get to open the time capsule because her wish had already come true.

The night of the accident is the last time they saw each other. That night, she broke his heart.

InHyuk calls SJ that it’s all over social media that he’s with a girl. SJ had to exit fast. IS didn’t want to let him go. She wasn’t giving up when she saw the huge umbrella- she grabbed SJ and used it to shield them. SJ saw his Mngr and he shoved him out LOL. This time, she’s driving. She takes him to his apartment. She made an excuse to use the bathroom. Funny when SJ was trying to hide the sexy anime life sized poster that IH left in his apartment 🤣

IS’s mom and grandma had to leave their apartment due broken pipes. The villain is there. 😱 Nooo it’s Taesung. 😳

she calls IS that they’re going to his brother’s house. IS told them that’s shes with a man and she’s not going home. Her mom approves 😳 SJ hears this and you hear his heart palpitates. He acts cool but the magz in his hand is upside down 😂

It’s only 130am, IS tries to kill time. 🤪 so she asked for a tour 🤣. She’s wow-ing all over – his closet, the painting, the view, even the fake plant 😳. Love it when SJ replies “dwae” to her ideas 😄

SJ prepares ramen for her. She notices her pill bottles. Good thing they’re just vitamins and supplements 😅.

It’s only 3am, She feigns sleep. She eventually told him the truth that she was afraid he will die if he leaves him alone tonight. He’s in no danger because he’s not depressed. She gets up but SJ stops her and soup broth ruined her sweater top.

He lends her his sweater top and lets her change in his bedroom until he remembers the time capsule. Why didn’t he let her change in the bathroom?
Funny how he tried to cover it with the blanket revealing the anime figure 😂. He could have just hid it in the drawer. So cute how IS is so understanding but SJ keeps denying that it is his property haha 😆 IS wanted to see it and their scuffle led them to an intimate position- just in time for IH to see them as he passes by. SJ hides IS in the closet.

IH comes back with the Photo Booth pic of SJ and IS. Why is he not over her first love and has remained single all these time?? he reminds him of the times he got drunk and always ending up where IS used to live. 2012. 2014. 2019. Awww 💔SJ ended up carrying IH in annoyance and dropping him in the tub 😆

IS found the clock she put in the time capsule. 😳 SJ takes IS home. We find out that the reason the OG IS stopped seeing him is due to the trauma of the night of the accident.

Before SJ left her, IS confessed that she liked him too and she’s sorry for hurting him. IS proceeded to go to her apartment. It took awhile for SJ to follow. He ended up taking the stairs. He caught up with her at the door. He asked her “what about now?” IS couldn’t answer. She pulled SJ inside the apartment. SJ bent down to kiss her but IS stopped. SJ looked disappointed. Then IS tiptoed to kiss him instead. Followed by another steamy kiss 😘 IS let her purse drop to the floor as they continue to kiss. 💋 oooh lala. This makes up for all years he waited for her. 🥰🥰🥰 I love their happy smiling faces afterwards. IS noticed the scar on SJ’s forehead. She touches it and SJ kisses her again. So cute.

Then the security guy rang the bell and disrupted their kissing rhapsody LOL. SJ left with her yellow scarf and called him OPPA 😍 his brother lol. As he left the parking lot, we see the villain sees him too 😡

That day, our OTP are acting infatuated. IS’s reason behind the wind up clock box gift— I hope that your time would keep going without stopping. 🥹 SJ told her that all these time he felt time stopped and it’s moving again now that they’ve reunited. 😍

After work, IS realized she left her car at his apt. She called SJ but he was in the shower. She was about to drive off when another car almost hit the stalker girl in front of her car. The girl ran and IS ran after her.

SJ calls IS but she was too busy with the stalker girl. IS caught her and found out she was a runaway. She took her to a restaurant and fed her.

SJ gets a call and mistook him for his manager? Coz the guy was asking for his room number??? His door bell rings… and we are brought back to that night he fell off the balcony on EP 1.

Meanwhile at the restaurant, the news broke that SJ has been attacked by the 2009 culprit. Nooooooo 😫😤😳😭😱🥵 IS dropped the tin cup in her hand and in total shock fell on her knees. Waaaaaaah IS needs another time travel yo!!!

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Ooo @Fern I’m so glad I waited till your additional comments…

My heart breaks for Sol. She’s the one who needs debriefing and counseling right now.

She tries SO hard and her anxiety around his wellbeing is noticeably more than it was at first time travel.

She anxiously waits on the bridge praying that he doesn’t come, right off the bat gets in to how are you doing? How are you feeling?, She doesn’t believe it when he says he’s fine and immediately gets into overthinking of whether he’s lying. Not only does she want to stick to him through the night anyhow, she gets anxious when she sees his medication. She wants him to sue all his stalkers and keeps asking him to let everyone around him know if he feels something is wrong EVEN after she feels the threat is past.

What makes this a heartwarming watch is, Sun Jae gets her anxiety. He doesn’t call her crazy or write her off. He doesn’t question what she was doing for last 15 years. He calls her a bulldozer and takes her home, patiently explains that the rumours are not true. He shows her the medicines (something incredibly private), tells her he’ll call her, and tells her that he likes that she takes care of him. He doesn’t shut her out at all.

She tells him… “I think you’ll die”. And his reaction is still measured. “Why do you think I’ll die?” He asks gently instead of making her feel that she’s lost her mind or that she has no right to ask all these questions given how he suffered after she ghosted him.

Now for some speculations… We’ve been right more than once now ! 😄😄

Sol’s anxiety and the causative onus on herself for Sun Jae’s death is going to lead us to, brace yourselves ladies, the dreaded ***noble idiocy™️.

She’ll love him in University days and gently let him down just before the time she returns to the present. She knows when that will be. She’s keenly aware that he’s loved her all his life thanks to In Hyuk and his love for bathing. She’s super anxious about his mental health as well. But I think she’ll let him know, and let him go. She’ll tell him not to wait for her.

Anyway she gets really excited when she comes to know that he’s so loved by fans, keeps enticing anime women cutouts under his bedspread, gets lots of gifts etc. she’s the definition of non-toxic.

I’ll add to the climax that we’ve been predicting…. Ah so much fun !

She returns to the present after third time travel but this time unlike the previous two travels, she doesn’t approach Sun jae. Steers clear of him and doesn’t let him know who she is. The era of official noble idiocy. But she continues watching him keenly and looking out for the murderer. She’ll successfully predict his plan at the climax.

The criminal gets away from jail or anyhow gets access to SJ. The third murder attempt of the taxi guy is going to be guns ! Because

Car of doom / accident aka hot and run /drowning ✅
Stabbing ✅

Which leaves us with gun shots. Convenient as well if Sol has to put herself between him and harm’s way.

I fully expect her to run hard since she is the “lovely runner” to take the bullets for him. And we’ll hear her justification, a description of her attempts to change his fate and her wishes for his long and happy life in voice over.

A shocked SJ who’s somewhat put their history behind this time around (tho no love triangle) holds her and comes to know that he’s been loved all this while.

Fin.

@Fern, interesting that you should mention this.

Couple of things here

– This particular cannister was given to Sun jae at the time of his shoulder surgery in the hospital by T1 Sol. That is, Sol’s FIRST time travel. After his surgery, he kisses a drunk Sol by the pool. Sol returns to the present where Sun Jae is dead the next day.

You’ll recall that Sun Jae STILL has this cannister in his bedroom when Sol goes for SECOND time travel. This T2 Sol sneaks into his bedroom to gift him books that help with depression. His surgery is already done, he has already recovered. Therefore Sun Jae already has this cannister.

Now, Sol returns from her SECOND time travel into 2023 after her narrowly missed abduction/accident on September 1 2008.

Pretty much like before, Sun Jae STILL has this cannister which T1 Sol gifted him in the FIRST time travel. It’s meant to show that all changes Sol is making in time travel are reflecting in Sun Jae’s life. Reason is, for him, time flows LINEARLY. No confusion.

Same with his depression. Present Sun Jae of Ep 7-8 does not have depression because Sol prevented her accident in T2.

TO and T1 Sun Jae had depression and insomnia (as shown by close up of pills both times) because Sol failed to prevent her accident and therefore his associated trauma. But T2 Sol prevents it and the SJ we return to in ep 7 is at a much better place mentally.

But T2 Sol didn’t make any changes in events during her first travel around his shoulder injury. So he still has the cannister.

Basically, time flows LINEARLY for Sun Jae and everyone else including Sol. She just travels back for short periods to avoid a specific event.

Allow me to illustrate.

Let’s think of it like a rail track. Sol knows where all an accident occurs so she tries to CHANGE the direction of the train of SJ’s life by switching tracks of the train. However, she can only do this after an accident had already occurred in a certain possibility of timeline. That possibility is destroyed once she changes the path of the train.

SJ’s life journey reflects those changes in tracks but he’s unaware of all the previous possibilities where the accident occurs. Because he’s never travelled those paths. Those possibilities were destroyed by Sol’s interventions.

Sol who travels back stations to change the path of his train is aware of all accidents that happened in all possibilities.

Okay, @Arihsi. I though it was the sweets she gave him on the bridge, not at the other times. So it makes sense now. But he doesn’t eat them, just keeps them for 15 years.

Can’t wait for next week’s episodes.

Thanks @Fern and @Janey…

My nerves (and blood vessels) are eroding more today that combined world erosion due to climate change. I hid in ladies room at work and watched reels of SJ and Sol’s silliness till I regained composure. Whoever tells tele wastes our time and reduces PRODUCTIVITY needs a reflection session.

As a bonus of mindless scrolling, I saw BWS looking ultra fine in some event he attended recently.

I’ll surely re-watch all the nice parts later. I’ll tinkle in if something catches the eye !

Yes, definitely @Fern. It’s a tiny bit better where I am. But climate change is here and how. I travel a lot and everywhere it’s the same. Germany had some ridiculously windy days last month! It’s not normal !

For me,

I dream of rain.
I dream of gardens in this concrete land.

😉

LR has been amazing in keeping up my morale because work has been eroding nerves and blood vessels as I write above. I await the next episodes eagerly too @Fern.

Run Sol run. Achieve your target ! 😜

Here on the east coast of canada we have had more rain in april than any other april ever. We never really had a winter. Yes the globe is in trouble.

I love hearing all your thoughts and recaps!

@agdr03 😂😂😂

@arihsi this couple is definitely therapeutic.
Cue “sudden shower” 🎶 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESWcsKySnNs

What a special song for our couple.
The directors, actors and editors have done such a fabulous job. The kissing scene was executed so thoughtfully and expertly. Did anyone enjoy the behind the scenes video as much as I did?

I did not notice the candy, thank you! hopefully that was all SJ was hiding.

@agdr03 I LOVED ep 8. Already re-watched ❤️

I’m ready to join you again for a re-watch of the re-watch 🤗

Ooo @Janey thank you for sharing!

Most weird and strange things keep happening to uri Sol-ah. I can imagine why Sun Jae never forgot her even after many years. It’d be difficult to forget someone who appeared so scatter brained, klutzy and needing rescue every second day.

In Sol’s defence, it is because she’s continuously brain storming her situation and where she is in space and time. More importantly, how to save Sun Jae-ya. Quote, “Do I die like this ? Oh no ! I need to save Sun Jae-ya before I die !” She has zero sense of self preservation because all of her brain capacity is occupied in thinking about another’s wellbeing. 😄

@agdr03 Yeah, Sun Jae can dig up any part of my yard. Just as long as he’s within 10 meters of where I am, and I get to hang around to watch. 😝😎😍

I am having difficulty reading this Thread. I find that anything In the comments that references future events in this drama such as Previews, References to webtoon or novel, or Photographs, spoils the episode for me.

Any hint about what is going to happen sways me in some way when I go to watch the show And the drama loses its novelty and surprise factor.

Of course, we all speculate and that is fine, but when the speculation is based on A preview, I do not feel that I can participate.

I can see that others are enjoying this conversation. I will Check-in every once in a while but avoid watching or reading anything that might be a spoiler for me.

Someone earlier in another thread was asking for rain. I do not want to rain on anyone’s parade.

I request @pm3 to please let us know her thoughts on it. Her opinion is the most important because ultimately, this is her space.

I really do not want to worry whilst posting each and every time if I’d be offending anyone by mentioning what has happened in some tele show. It’d be best if the expectations are clear here.

As I mentioned above, I’d be more than happy to abide by any rules or any policy. I want to continue being a part of the community here.

(Continued…)

Repetitions to Note:
SJ says twice that IS just does not change at all. The thing is that this is truer than SJ knows because to IS, it is not 10 or 15 years that have passed… she’s the IS from yesterday that happened to have been in 2008 or 2009. She had jumped back into 2023 without remembering the intervening years. The person time had stopped for in this way was IS.

I liked IS’s gift of “time that passes again” and I feel that it’s something both of them need. Although IS gives her interpretation of this gift, there are a few ways of looking at it, and for more than one person.

* One interpretation is that SJ does not die like before, but continues to live, so that he can pass the time alive.

* The second interpretation is what I mentioned above about how IS never passed time but jumped it! Time had jumped back and forth for IS instead of passing normally. IS had gone back to 2008 twice instead of living with awareness the passage of her life into 2023.

* Yet another interpretation is ‘time on repeat’ – IS remembers making more than one pass over 2008. It could refer to the chance to re-live some parts of life, to go back in time, to make things right.

* The most likely interpretation is that SJ’s time had stood still when he was in depression in 1 timeline, while in this one, he admits later that his time had stopped (I believe in his not getting past missing IS).

* SJ was also living ‘time on repeat’ – he had been looping back in space to IS’s old home, just to be back where he’d had some good times with IS. Loved how he had yellow flowers with him every time!

Their conversation:
IS: “I wanted your time to keep flowing instead of stopping.”
SJ: “That’s odd. Now that I hear you say ‘that’, my time which was standing still until now is finally flowing properly.” (So now he won’t be stuck in time, going back on repeat to IS’s old home).

The gift of time that passes was the hope that they could move forward in time… (I add ‘alive and together’!).

And when it comes to ‘time on repeat’, I really wish that time would pass for the Killer who returns for a re-run on IS or SJ’s life. Killer really needs to get a life of his own!

@pkml3, yes to the alternate timeline in 2023 in Ep 8. It’s super lovely until near the end.

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BTW please see my note to you on the amendments to be made for London and Athens time in the new Rewatch thread. They are one hour ahead (I think!!!) Thank you my dear!! 😘🤗
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Thank you @pm3. ❤️

Thank you @GB for sharing your thoughts. See ? You had the clock points which I hadn’t thought of at all ! Now I feel Sol is the one who’s most stuck here.

I love your summary of Boy saves girl who thinks she must save the boy. I think the girl has realised now that him saving her is what leads to his demise. I expect her to work in that direction.

We still have 8 episodes to go. I expect to see some other twists ? She’s already in her third and final time travel by ep 9. I expect conclusion of her success in saving Sun Jae in 2023 by end of ep 11/Max ep 12. It is certain that she will succeed otherwise the whole point of the drama/story is rendered moot. I’m curious as to what comes after 😃

Somehow, just like HI surviving her illness or not was not the final climax of QoT, I don’t think Sol’s success in saving SJ will be the focus of climax of LR. Reason being, it is already expected by the audience that she will.

@Arihsi
Yes, we can have more twisty twists between now and the end. After bringing us through three timelines, Show had better do a good wrap up in the present 2023-2024 when the time jumps should stop, both SJ and IS get saved, the Killer (and whoever else IS may be the accomplice, if any) gets apprehended, Tae Sung makes a proper comeback and the OTP with their families are also shown to us to continue on for the indeterminate future.

The issue with Queen of Tears was that after many episodes where the OTP were apart or at odds with each other, the ending’s ‘happier’ interactions did not balance out the angsty ones. The viewers were waiting for the tears to end so that they could have proper closure with smiles and laughter, with the ensemble of families who had grown closer, together, but were instead not even shown the faces of the OTP. We were expected to be happy with the sight of just their feet walking and blur shots of an aged HW’s back and profile, and then death.

That nullified all the buildup of expectation for a visually happy ending. At least the ending should have stopped with the OTP being alive. That writer believes in keeping couples apart in some form, and the only recourse to being together forever is after death. While I subscribe to that in real life, I don’t need it in a drama.

@GB I completely agree about QoT ending and use of hazy cinematography. Although I didn’t watch the drama per se, I kept up to date with what was going on and the general sentiments of the internet are exactly as yours.

The pace and general feel of LR indicates that it wouldn’t have extended periods of angst. We’re already at ep 8 and even ep 9 promises to have elements of romance and hilarity.

@BethB hear hear ! It’s a win win for all. BWS gets his wish of a record breaking multiple death(s) of his character in the same drama AND we get a true happy ending 😅 The audiences would approach his future dramas with a lot of caution if he kept doing sad endings only.

For my own viewing pleasure–because I love figuring out the mechanics of a drama–I’ve been rewatching the earlier episodes to try to figure out the timeline(s). There is a lot more to the show than first meets the eye!

COLOR PALETTE

* The production designer/colorist has applied a primary color palette to the characters–their clothing and their surroundings:

–Sol’s color is yellow: her umbrella, the pillow she’s first seen sleeping on in the present, the yellow scarf she wears to the concert on 12/31/22, the shaman’s platform she’s lying on when she enters T2. She also wears green a few times when she is with SJ.

–SJ’s color is blue. Almost all the posters of him in Sol’s bedroom have a blue background; he wears a lot of blue jackets; he carries a blue umbrella. And, of course, he swims in a pool that is blue. When he is shown on 12/31/22 on his hotel balcony he is lit up with an eerie blue light.

–When Sol and SJ are at the pool when she is drunk and he is making his first confession the blue pool and the blue room are lit up above with three or four windows showing a yellow light shining through. (I wonder if a colorist added this digitally?). The pool dividers also are yellow and red.

–I’m not as sure about the color red: The shaman’s key ring is red. Tae Sung wears a lot of red jackets, or shirts with red on them (I hope that doesn’t mean that TS is going to turn out to be evil). There may be other red that I haven’t noticed?

This color scheme may drop as the characters alter one another and the past/present, but it was fun to note it in the earlier episodes!

(more notes from my rewatching)

WATER ELEMENT

As someone noted before, water is an important element to the show. Once you look for it, you see it in the significant moments.

–the swimming pool(s)–SJ’s high school pool and his hotel pool
–the reservoir where Sol’s accident takes place
–the Han River where they meet on the bridge
–the stream where Sol’s watch drops and which she crawls into to retrieve it, making her first timeline exit
–the waterway sparkling in the background when SJ makes his second confession to Sol in the past
–the unexpected rain on Sol’s first time travel entry (requiring the need for SJ’s umbrella)
–the snow on 12/31/22

I’m sure there are more!

@Beth There were yellow daisy like flowers in the vaws before it broke, In the hospital room.

While working on the Timeline for the show, I first separated out the Timeline exit, entrance, and re-entry dates. I’ll update this list after her final time travel:

TIMELINE EXIT AND ENTRANCES [with places noted]

Notes:
T0 = original timeline
T1 = first time travel
T2 – second time travel
T3 – third time travel

EN = entrance; Ex = Exit

Exits from Timeline 0
• 1st exit (Ep 1): 1/1/2023 12 am – [Sol in the stream after seeing news of SJ’s death]
• 2nd exit (Ep 4)- 1/2/2023 12am–(or 1/3 — one or two days have passed) [Sol in her bedroom]
• 3rd exit (hasn’t happened by 8th episode)

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Timeline 1 (lasts almost 2 months, according to Sol in T2)
• T1/EN (Ep 1)- June 2008 [Sol in class]
(month shown on her mom’s store calendar; could not find the exact day)
• T1/Ex (Ep 3) – July 19, 2008– [Sol in front of school with Tae-Sung]
(this date was given by Sol when she came back in Timeline 2 on 7/29/08–she said it had only been 10 days since she had been gone from the past)
• T1/re-entry (Ep 4)- January 1, 2023, after 12am – Sol wakes up in hospital

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Timeline 2
• T2/EN (Ep 4)- July 29, 2008 [Sol on shaman’s platform, at her house]
(date shown on her cellphone)
• T2/Ex (Ep 7)- September 1, 2008 – at scene of accident
(accident date has been marked in her diary/calendar)
• T2/re-entry (Ep 7) – alt/T January 1, 2023, 12am – Sol re-enters dressed in hanbok at Yongcheon Outdoor Set; runs off to find SJ at Han River bridge

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Timeline 3 [still to come]

Ooooo I love this colour analysis @BethB🌻🌻🌻

And the list of how water is important in the show. I did notice it when the trailers came out. It rains a lot and they spend a lot of time near water and snow.

Interestingly, many of these scenes were shot in the Korean winter (unlike the drama/story season which is summer). The actors were super cold during some of the shooting.

@Fern had noted way back that it must feel wet and cold to be in the water for so long. Add to that peak of winter ! They’re literally shivering in spite of all the care by filming crew !

https://youtube.com/shorts/VB7qkZF3fAI?si=y3ZJLpCsr4Mr5dwi

https://www.instagram.com/p/C5lcESLJ1NG/?igsh=NHA3NTlpZXgyZGdt

I’d surely forget all the dialogues 🙄 I can’t bear even strong air-conditioning when I have to make important presentations. I carry light jackets everywhere. Planes, trains, board rooms, auditoriums… 😶‍🌫️🥶🥶 I surely wouldn’t remember a single line if I’m this soaking wet without any winter gear in -20 c.

Additions to the water scenes

– Ep 2 end, when he saved her from being a roadkill. She’s standing in the middle of the road and he pulls her away from a car. It’s raining heavily and we discover that IS is SJ’s first love. A key moment in the drama.

I have rewatch the first 3 episodes.And here are some of my additional thoughts.

Just how much the music Lyrics reflect the themes and emotions of the drama.

How in the radio show scene SJ is offering her a metaphorical umbrella.

Toenail cutting scene. Gross and sickening. I think it represents her spinal injury and her mother’s protective Response stopping the bleeding and wanting to paint her nails yellow.

The vase that breaks is blue and the flowers in it are yellow. She also has blue on her hospital pajamas.

I really feel for the mother and she mutters.Something about having had enough.

This time I noticed that she had a s j With a lollipop pillow next to her during the wedding paint scene. Someone previously had noted this. I had the thought that the grandmother might have the watch in the present now.

Does anyone know the reference to sam doo chul…? Part of the scene referring to hotel de.Luna.

Some relevant lyrics here. Fly to the sun and round and round save me. Not sure exactly which scene but around the first meet on the bridge scene.

I am thinking now that the SJ We meet
In the radio scene and on the first bridge meet is the original SJ. That does make the show easier to understand. Particularly in the bridge scene, if it were another version of him he would be surprised to see her in a wheelchair. I would really like to know what others are thinking about this.

How painful it is to be the last person to see someone before he or she Commits suicide.

I think the light on the watch goes out at 11:33 So is this when he dies? Or when a certain event we do not know of yet happens relating to his death?

I have now confirmed with my own eyes that it is probably the same person knocking her phone out of her hands In both timelines and that it is the malevolent cab driver from the past.

I have learned some new korean- The words for ghost and hell.🙂

I’m assuming she will be allowed three time travels because the watch originally had “3:00” on it, and after her first time jump it said “2:00”. However, since she no longer seems to own the watch, I don’t know if she will still be limited as to how many number of times she will go back, or if she’ll even be able to go back with that watch or if it will be something else (travel clock?!)

One thing I noticed in re-watching the earlier episodes is that the travel/swim watch had been sitting in a box in her room. What may have animated it was that her grandmother took it out of the box and wore it while she was painting red circles on Sol’s face like a bride. Being in the water that night, as it had been when SJ swam with it, ultimately animated it as a time machine

If she time jumps again in episode nine, as the previews have let us to believe, I don’t know how the last few episodes will go. She’s going to run out of the past to go back into!