Thanks @pkml3. 🙂

We have 6 more episodes of this series according to MDL and yes, I’m filled with hope (and I actually expect) that it will give us a more than satisfactory finale.

Hi-5! @agdr03… I like the same song. I’ll be putting it into my USB/thumbdrive to play it when I drive. I need to get a few more songs. Wish I could sing along with them. 🙂

@agdr03, Yes, I’d need to see the lyrics if I want to sing along LOL. Can’t do it when I drive!!!

Hello @GB Unnie and @Agdr03!

Kalimera and let’s have a nice week!

@agdr03,

Like all of us are looking forward! <3

The real question is: Are we going to get only one episode on their dating era?

Hi @Fern, we all have the same family. hahaha

@Cleo, they’ve been stingy with QOT so they better make it up here in LR. 🙂

Kalimera @Fern,

These days, I also like: Eclipse’s – I’ll be there!

Thank you for the good wishes, @pm3! Will reasonable be like “beyond reasonable doubt” in court? Lol!
Still have not resumed watching ep 9 and 10. Will look for clues if my patience will not be tried with ep 11 and 12. I hope noble idiocy does not prevail. I want a smart heroine, please….

Hi @Cleo, @agdr03, @Janey, @Arihsi, @Fern
I see we’re all waiting excitedly here some 6-12 hours in advance!!!

Thanks @Cleo, I like “I’ll be there” too! I want to get the songs individually to listen to.

@agdr03, unfortunately, I’m not one of those people who pick up songs easily enough to sing it after hearing it a few times, with the lyrics intact!

@Janey and Arihsi, yes, I never did read the TvN notice but from quite early on, I realised that our OTP take turns to cover each other with their umbrella in rain or snow. It was such a huge Easter egg on their mutual protection of each other LOL.

Hi @Arihsi, thanks! I went back to watch to double check. No wonder I found something weird about that scene.

So how do you interpret the incorrect winding of the clock? Do you think the writer and director deliberately put it in there to say that this time jump would fail, because the clock would not start moving?

Or did they just not want the clock to start moving yet or did no one catch that BWS was winding it up incorrectly? LOL.

@GB everyone thinks the scene is deliberate. The time doesn’t “restart” for SJ after Sol’s second return. When he winds the clock, he’s on time Sol “borrowed” for him by delaying his death/grave injury.

The clock remains frozen at 8.23. People assume 23 to be 2023.

Additionally, I don’t know if you noticed mine and @Fern’s chat on earlier thread.

The orange pocket watch appears as early as Ep ONE. Sol keeps it in her treasure box, heavily protected by pom pom balls right under Sun Jae’s watch.

Before she puts the heat pad given by Sun Jae in ep one in that treasure box, the box contained only two items. Two watches and one of them is Sun Jae’s. That’s it. It’s unknown who’s the original owner of this orange case watch. It looks old style ???

@Arihsi the time 8:23 totally fits 2023 because in a 24-hour clock, 8 o’clock is 20:00 hours! So even though SJ starts the clock in 2009, we still have to get back to 2023 to make the new timeline start moving properly, with all the relevant changes in place.

@Arihsi,

It is not too early. We were watching the C-Drama “Reset” with @GB Unnie two years ago? I won’t do spoilers, but I am starting to think that this is kinda a time loop.

Mostly because of the watches and the fact that things are happening in an exact way. You described this with @Fern in the previous thread.

So, we need to learn more about that orange clock because it might be the answer to the question we are posing. I also have written that above !LOL

Oh goodness gracious @cleo and @GB… I just realised …IF it’s a time loop,

The drama opens at 22 July, 2009 on day of solar eclipse at ep one. Many of us noted that in spite of having a major accident, September 1, 2008 to July 22 2009 is rather a long time for rehab.

BUT if it’s a LOOP, and the accident happened on May 10th, 2009, she can still be in rehab in July if it’s a major accident.

Then, when SJ goes to that radio show in ep one and calls her…. All these memories of her three time travels (2 in school and one in college) are with SJ ? She’s LOVED him so much already by then and he KNOWS ? WHAT ? what type of absolute emotional torture is that ?

No wonder he lowers his eyes after calling her from the radio station and sighs… “Sol-ah” with so much longing end ep 4.

God it will hurt if she says she doesn’t remember who Ryu (pause) Sun (pause) Jae (pause) is…. After ALL of this.

What’s more… Sol becomes his ardent fan thinking she’s just a “fan” because she doesn’t remember. But actually she’s always loved him. Oh goodness.

I better keep my trusty tissue box handy.

@Arihsi, and now with the big change in Eclipse, IS will no longer be an ardent fan even!!! [Unless she really becomes a fan of swimming or some sports that SJ ends up doing (just as she pretended to be in Ep 1-2 where she admired her imaginary dog for swimming so well and so was a fan of SJ who swam well too LOLOL)]

But horrors! If she’s not even a fan in the next return to 2023, will they at least be friends? Remembered as neighbours? Will Tae Sung remember his promise to tell his dad to keep SJ safe?

The thing that IS said to TS – that she couldn’t tell SJ to protect himself in 2023 because she herself would be her earlier self who would know nothing – kind of scares me. How does she know that she will not retain her memories? Won’t she return to 2023 as the IS we know, since she’s done so twice already or does she realise that she’ll return too late to stop the killer?

Are we going to lose her just as the 2009 romance begins? But the thing is this, how can the IS we know totally just disappear? Somewhere in the return jump, there can only be one IS with one set of memories, merged with the events of the past and present, or the poor girl will go crazy.

But while unchanged IS who never time jumped will keep not knowing anything, at least now we have 2 guys who will know and remember and watch out for her. TS and SJ should keep each other company in the knowledge that they have to live on til 2023 to meet their 34yo IS again.

Unnie,

That’s why I also found this Creator cruel in the first place. Sol doesn’t incorporates her memories in the past. Only Sol in the 2023 timeline does and remembers her time travels could go crazy.

Younger Sol (in the past) needs to realize that something has changed those three times, she doesn’t remember the past.

Also, IF this time around she loses her mobility again, her family and her BEST FRIEND will remember that she was dating Sun Jae. Also, Tae Sung remembers. Basically, everyone will remember, but her and that makes it even more depressing for me.

I do hope that Sol in the past will be told that she was dating Sun Jae and she doesn’t remember it because of the accident…

@Arihsi, still, it is too much for both of them to deal with this. 14 years to pass from 2009 to 2023, it is really a very long time. Sun Jae will still pine for her, Sol would not remember, until she does… Hence the Creator is not only cruel, but also sadistic.

I can’t wait to watch today’s episode tomorrow after work. It looks hilarious 🤣

@Arihsi,

I will watch it shortly…😜😎😇😈 LMAO!

Tomorrow the phenomenal “Spring Snow” by 10cm is releasing… It’s the “I’m falling slowly in love with you” song that has been playing when 34 yo SJ meets or sees Sol in 2023. I’m pretty sure we might return to present again.

@GB Unnie,

I cannot stop laughing… 🤪😂🤣

Episode 11: a well-balanced mix of cuteness and hilarity. It felt like a penultimate episode and finale setup. Is this really a 16 episode drama?

Hi all, thanks for sharing your thoughts and theories! 20:23 on the clock is too cool.

Wasn’t that epilogue the sweetest (and prettiest).

Love the live band version of Sudden Shower too!

I am curious why the villain targets IS in 2008/09 and SJ in 2023, and not the other way around. I hope the show gives us an answer.

And yes, grandma knows things. Is it intuition or factual knowledge?

@snow flower I think 2008/09 killer only goes for Sol – fails to kill her because of Sun Jae – gets JAILED – Comes out and decides to take away SJ as revenge – This is my idea because in all timelines, SJ saves Sol and gets the killer jailed. If not for SJ, the killer would be roaming around free. That’s why Sol thinks she’s responsible for SJ’s death.

Annyeong,

EP 11 ~ recap 💕

IS’s mom passed by while our OTP are kissing LOL. Love how SJ hides IS in his jacket.

At a cafe, SJ was more worried about his reputation which is valid coz IS’s mom is already thinking he’s naughty haha 😆 to appease IS I like what he promised – “when you leave in a month, meet me there in the future”. His right hand cups her right face and said “ I’ll run to you. To 2023, where you are.” 💕

SJ is so cute when he changes IS’s monicker on his phone to SOL♥️. Funny coz he’s so in love he added so many hearts after ♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️

SJ’s dad came home from drinking and was not expecting him to be home – this is hilarious!! The power was out and SJ had a face mask on and the dad fainted upon seeing him 🤪 when his dad came to, SJ reassured him that his heart is no longer in swimming- who knows he’ll be famous and have fans in the future 😎

IS was able to call the detective and gave him the truck’s license plate. She also had a glimpse of the future where the eclipse is made of only 3 members without SJ 😳

IS’s mom ended up telling SJ’s dad what she saw last night. Omg!!! So he asked SJ if the reason he stayed is because of a girl. SJ is so cute when he said “anya” haha. He’s so guilty!

Outside, he waited for IS. Awww they embraced with big smiles and held hands on the way to the school. 💕 They were going to keep their status a secret but they got caught red handed 🤪

IS found out that Eclipse was able to pass the audition without SJ. She’s blaming herself again if ever SJ doesn’t become a famous singer in the future. But SJ doesn’t care.

On their first date, SJ got them a couple pink/blue bear charm phone strap 💕

On the way home, SJ helped IS catch a falling blossom petal and they made a wish together 💕 but SJ thinks his wish already came true and he gave her a few stolen kisses haha. They wanted to hang out some more, so they ended up hanging out at the video store watching a movie then IS fell asleep and they stayed there til morning 💕

Another hilarious moment- IS’s bro found them and IS was holding on to his shirt and it ripped showing part of SJ’s chest- a frenzy ensued that got IS’s mom involved then SJ’s dad appeared to the rescue – the dad took the blame for the “rated R movie” and the condoms that flew all over out of his bag 🤣 omg. IS and SJ were separated like Romeo and Juliet – “a time for us” *love theme* is playing in the background 😅😂🤣🥹

The following day, both families came together to settle things about the rental of the VHS movie, the ripped Shirt, and the condoms. Hilarious!! Thankfully Cho Rong arrived to the rescue 🤪

TS met with IS to confirm that the owner of the truck is indeed Kim Young Soo 😤. IS was gonna treat him to dinner but SJ arrived. As her current BF, he took TS out instead. And they got drunk together 🤪 they woke up in the same bed together – apparently they even did karaoke before that 🤪 they both like IS and now they both know about the villain 🥸

Detective Lee called IS to let her know the good news- they caught the villain!

Eclipse is playing their last gig and TS helped advertise it. SJ was a guest vocalist that night and he sang his song for Sol 💕 looks like their future manager is there that night too.

Meanwhile, the vehicle carrying the villain got into an accident. Everyone was bloody and the villain got away 😡🤯🤬

Epilogue- their wishes: happiness for the other person and to be happy together forever 💕

Preview: looks like Sol and the boys goes for a beach 🏝️ outing 🌊

@Hana

I don’t think Sol can see the future. What she’s seeing is the PAST. Just like she “saw” the whole abduction in T2 when SJ went through the window in her “dream”. This is ep 7. She comes back from her second time travel, goes to sleep and “sees” the abduction. This abduction has already HAPPENED to T2 original IS that she left behind in 2008.

Similarly, an IS was present at this 3 people concert in an earlier timeline. Notice no Sun Jae in the performance of her falsh back.

She CHANGES this when she remembers that this is how it was in the PAST. In earlier timeline probably because T2 Sol threw away the manager card from SJ’s uniform. We are shown this specific shot as well. Due to this probably SJ didn’t sing and we got a three member Eclipse. Our T3 Sol in 2009 remembers this and tries to drag SJ to sing again. Because he ENJOYED singing. This is key for me. Sol wants to SJ to sing because HE loves it ❤️

He sings and his future manager is present. The future has changed again ladies.

Reg. Worry about our OTP, I’d worry more about all of them given how happy they are WHERE in preview ep 12

If I were the writer, the odds are heavily stacked against Sun Jae. He is outnumbered 1 by 3 if he has to save them from drowning. I’d bet In Hyuk can’t swim even if TS can. Plus it’s the SEA not static water (like a lake) or a pool.

He is up against the SEA to save not one but THREE people he holds close to his heart with a life altering shoulder surgery just 6 months back and no rehab. Wow.

He’d blame himself for life even if he fails for just one of them, let alone Sol.

I love both the parents @GB and I also adore the positive relationship between all of them… Not just OTP. Too often, in kdramas, it is shown that ONLY the leads are each other’s support and they have no one else. This type of scenario is highly unsustainable not just undesirable.

But our leads have their parents, friends, siblings… It’s all in all so wholesome to watch…

Kalimera @GB Unnie, @Arihsi, @Fern, @SnowFlower @Hana @HK_Lady,

We are heading to the stressed part of the show. I don’t know if they will show anything in this episode or they will make it to Episodes 13 + 14.

Still, the real question today after the comic relief we got yesterday is one.

How the killer managed to subdue three police officers while in handcuffs. Was the one who made them have the car accident? If that is the case, all the Police Force should go looking for him and inform Sol to be careful.

@Arihsi,

We shall see. I was thinking Goblin when I was writing this one. If you remember in Episode 13 all hell broke loose… o.O

I don’t think that Episode 11 was a filler episode. They showed us the start of their relationship and it was needed because Sun Jae needs something to hold onto until they meet again in 2023.

Well, yes. Water is an important element in the culprit’s MO.

P.S. Did you write anything on MDL last night? If yes, then I commented below your commen! 😛

@Arihsi,

He / She used “sonaki” and when I read that I said, maybe that is @Arihsi’s handle on MDL? Hence I asked about it!

And I beg your pardon cara @cleo… “Filler” is an incorrect word because it means episodes like the horrendous My Demon – episodes which lead nowhere and serve no purpose. What I meant to say was “fluffy” ? “Nice” ? “Happy” ? You get my point… Something where the stakes weren’t amped up.

Exactly @Fern. Time and again we’re learning that Sol can alter only LITTLE details. She can only change her personal responses to anything, such as noticing SJ, loving him back, keeping TS in loop, inspiring him etc. She is UNABLE to make big changes – big changes that sustain throughout anyway. For example. She tried to make SJ continue swimming – failed. She tried to stop him from becoming a singer (because she thought that was the reason of his depression) – failed, she tried to stop him from loving her and pushed him away the best she could – failed.

I’m scared to see her on that cliff because if something happens, we’ll be back to square one of this entire debacle that is, Sun Jae blaming himself for 15 years until the time traveller Sol finds him and sets him free with her love.

Therefore, I feel her RESPONSE to a crisis, WHEN the crisis stirkes is crucial.

PS – I am so interested to see how they shoot the sequence because this drama has shown that their camera work is very good. Case in point – SJ being stabbed ep 9 beginning. We’ve seen countless dramas stabbings but this was done differently.

Finally, the song we were waiting for!

10cm – Spring Snow

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCaIO1yELbQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tuCuqYg8k8E

and with English Subs here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORl9METz9YM

Enjoy!

The writer proves ALL spoilers (and my theories) wrong once again ! Omg…. So cool… Like so cool !

Just occurred to me… IS thinks SJ dies while saving her, but not that Killer might be after both of them. At different times he targets a different person. When they’re together he can get them both.

@GB we’re still missing crucial info from timeline T0. Word is on the street that child Sol has been cast.

The possibility of this ending badly is quite literally zero.

What means a “bad ending” for a rom-com ? The death of one of the leads ? But in our case that has already happened twice. That they suffer through long periods of seperation? Already happened twice, will happen one more time. That one of them become disabled and unhappy? Rare of kdramas but in our case that has ALSO happened. That one of them has amnesia? ALSO happened. Gosh.

The only possibility remains is that of their happiness.

I don’t think there’ll be prolonged angst looking at how this drama has gone so far. Sun Jae already figures out what Sol did by ep 13 preview.

For your light entertainment while waiting for next episodes….

The actor Byeon WooSeok is the special guest on last Sunday’s “Running Man.” The whole show parodied “Lovely Runner.”

Thank you @Packmule3! I do hope you are okay! 🎈

They are heavily booked! I read that BWS’s agency is promoting him more, making Kim Hye Yoon’s fans to protest that her Agency is not doing much.

So, after that, articles were posted that next week both of them will go to “Salon Drip”, but the Episode will air in June!

Wook Seok also will do his first fan meet and Hye Yoon also has some interviews, etc.

Episodes up to Ep 12 Ad Hoc Thoughts
Writer-nim seems to have suddenly added a new feature to this time jump phenomenon. Now not only does IS have to worry about present-2009 or her present-2023 but she starts to get flashes of likely present-present happenings!!! When this sort of thing happens in the last 5 episodes, I wonder about the logic of the time jumps. Is Writer-nim suddenly inserting new rules to push the plot? If this was planned way in advance and we were given no notice, what is triggering it…why is it happening only now?

IS who is suddenly gifted with the knowledge of what could happen in the very near future, actually now has the advantage of foresight!!! Should she not then avoid that dangerous circumstance and situation as she’s done before (with less foresight)? Is it not rather ‘fatalistic’ of her to just follow through according to her ‘visions’? Why not turn the tables on ‘fate’?

As I mentioned above, she seems to think that if she gets hurt/killed or whatever, it will end there and then SJ will be safe, but she could be very wrong. Perhaps our Killer (who is thus far a mere plot device with only a name, with no life or background, no known rationale) has it out for SJ anyway and will get him after he gets IS.

Once again, plot depends on coincidence. At just the moment when IS calls mum in the shop, Killer is there to overhear it. It is obviously difficult to bring Killer and IS together in a more organic way.

If Killer needs to overhear stuff so as to know where to go next, does that mean he is not really a time traveler with prior knowledge?

More Ad Hoc Thoughts
Were SJ’s Dad and Sunny, the car events just comedic moments?

What purpose did FJ’s dad’s bathroom and Tae Sung’s Sunny fiascos serve? It has begun to feel like filler has been introduced, even from the Ep 11 sweet scenes.

I was wondering if there’s a message in those circumstances. We said that water plays a part in much of the ‘accidents’ but here we find laughably that SJ’s Dad has no water to even rinse his hair. Did the poor man not only suffer hunger but thirst in his own bathroom?

He was disgusted with having to use the water in the toilet bowl, but needs must! (Message 1? Might it be the case that IS or SJ too must do the unthinkable out of desperate need? LOL)

What was TS doing, showing off his lovely car only to not park it properly on the road??? How did it get off the road and roll down so far? (Message 2? Even with the best of intentions, there’s still no accounting for human error and the unpredictable.)

At the end of Ep 12, the epilogue shows us that IS notes, her future has changed again, but this time it’s an unfavourable change. It has become clearer that while she goes back with good intentions, things don’t always go the way she expects, just because she tried so hard. Matters have become unpredictable now, so that her warnings about the 10 May Killer activity may no longer be valid.

Was it in the preview that she wonders if it would have been better if she’d never met SJ? In her defence I guess we must say that there is no way she could have done nothing. She would always have had to try to make things better, no matter what. The irony is that she could also inadvertently make things worse. So Message 1 and Message 2 may apply!!!

@Growing Beautifully, yes, we got a sort of cryptic explanation of the killer causing the car to crash at the beginning of episode 12. Ummm, okay. Houdini time.

I like your mention of symbolism in some of the scenes.

Sun Jae’s dad in the bathroom, surely he should use the water from the tank of the toilet rather than from the bowl first? There were towels hanging there, so he could have dipped a corner in just to wipe his eyes. The rest of the tank (not bowl) could have been used for drinking if necessary. Me being practical again. Message 1 might also be use your brains if you have to do something out of desperation, and pay attention to what your kids tell you ref. door lock. But also it brings him and IS’s mother closer.

If the damaged or ruined car is named Sunshine (which is similar to the word Sol from Latin), are we being told that IS will be in danger of drowning again or that dark days are imminent?

I should’ve tagged you too @GB ! Sol doesn’t have any ability to see the near future as I mentioned above. I think what she’s seeing is her memories!

I could not watch Episode 12 yesterday because Viki had a glitch. I wll try again today.

@snow flower, same with me… but i was able to watch it via my laptop 🙂 way later, after dinner 😭 idk why – i was thinking maybe coz so many people are watching them??? ugh!

@Arihsi, i never noticed they play the same songs during their “kiss” scenes. good observation 🤍

@gb comedic moments with the dad stuck in the bathroom for a whole day and “sunny” going down in the ocean 💔 i was like NO to the toilet bowl water. omg. like just wipe your eyes dude! omg. i love the VW. so saaaaad. not comic. saaaaad.

Also @HK_lady, thank you for the recap. It came in handy when I had to figure out the distance between Danpo-ri / Sanpo-ri and Seoul. Sol did well.

This place is 284-300 kms away from Seoul. We know that SJ, if given enough time and space WILL intervene between Sol and the criminal.

However, this time he realises his terrible mistake (aka as @GB points out, to leave Sol alone) AFTER reaching Seoul when Sol doesn’t return home. No matter how much he runs, he can’t cover 300 kms that easily or that fast.

By indulging in so called “noble idiocy” but actually sticking to her mission, Sol has successfully put TIME and Distance between Sun Jae and harm’s way.

@Arihsi – who would’ve thought – but IS is very determined this time – to put time and distance between SJ and harm’s way – right on – she has this one mission – 3rd time’s a charm – will she get hurt this time to protect SJ?? waaaaah. IDK why the serial killer is so relentless on IS. like move on with another victim dude. LOL. just coz she’s the victim that got away many times 😢

i do like VW (bugs) – but i want to be an owner of a mini-cooper though. waaah

so 3 hrs away!!!! Sanpo-ri. that’s pretty far. Run Run our lovely couple!! gosh

re: recap – you guys are welcome. the least i can do 💛

I don’t know @cleo… Unless they mess it up really badly, my heart is warmed and full with this drama.

*Turns a blind eye to the holes. Hopes not to fall in one of them*

What’s more, I’m so happy for all the actors and the director in real life. Their perseverance and hard work is paying off after many, many years in the industry. I’m just happy being happy with the whole tide while it lasts ❤️

*Smiles till cheeks hurt at the new BWS interview snippet where he says he feels as if he’s in a fairy tale*

The sheer number of so called spoilers and theories around this drama… It’s simply hilarious 😂

The are so many “theories” floating around and none of them agree with each other. LoL LoL !

The only thing that is in favour of a “happy and reasonable” ending that pm3 mentions is the fact that TvN is planning a special live screening of the last episode that would be attended by the cast. Presumably this would require buying tickets ?

They definitely wouldn’t plan an event like that if they weren’t sure the ending would be well received.

Oohh @Hana there is a pop up store too ! May 23rd onwards till the final episode airs. It’ll have exclusive show related goodies, photographs etc. Ohhh to be in Seoul at the moment!

I also notice TvN’s absolutely obvious and funny changes in quality of episode stills that they release post airing. If you notice earlier, it’s usual couple pics, pics of major scenes etc which might interest the audience. Now, they’ve gone ahead and cut out all major scenes, hugs, intimate scenes, kisses, scenes where the audience might be interested from ep 10 onwards 😂

What’s more… BWS has been cut out like an annoying friend or relations from most of the pics… LoL !

I think it’s because they want to publish a photo book, Blue Ray /DVD etc to buy…

Literally he’s been cut out… Also no stills of cute scenes between the couple, no pics of memorable moments… They’ve featured a bowl of strawberries BY ITSELF for heaven’s sake in the name of episode still… Hee hee hee…

TvN is too obvious ! 😄

Some additional random thoughts on Ep 11 and 12:

–I’m hoping that SJ and Sol actually did have sex at the beach (while everyone else was octopus fishing), because it would get into that weird Mr. Queen territory where the person whose body is involved in the act has no say in it. Plus it would be terrible to leave a teenager possibly pregnant while her older adult self goes back to the future. (Or maybe all those condoms in Ep 11 foreshadowed how SJ might take care of it??)

–I don’t understand why scenes are grey then full color, e.g., when the killer is walking around the abandoned area. Were we seeing Sol’s original memories and then a moment from the new timeline? Is this use of grey filters then full color consistent, so that we know that it’s always Sol’s original memories? What do you all think?

–I don’t buy the idea that the killer is a time traveler. For one thing, there has been no real evidence of it so far and we only have four episodes to go. What I don’t understand is what happened in the accident. Was it really just a random traffic accident, and he somehow managed to not get (significantly) hurt while everyone else in the car was hurt? Or did he use the animal drugs to knock out each person in the car? (But how would he have injected it wearing handcuffs??)

What we still don’t know is why he is so hung up on Sol. We see him carrying her phone in the last scene in Ep 12. I don’t know how that ties into wanting to murder someone.

–I’ve read different theories about Sol’s grandmother, about why she ends up with a poor memory in the future. The simplest explanation for that could be that she sees what happens to Sol and the stress of it makes her lose her mind. I’m not sure that she is a shaman or has any special powers, though her taking the watch out of the box and wearing it seems to have helped start Sol’s time travels.

–Some people have said TS’s VW Beetle was a PPL. If so it’s the weirdest PPL ever–unless it was to make a point that the new Beetles, unlike the old ones, don’t float in the water!

–The only justification I can think of for that whole long section in Ep 12 of SJ’s father getting locked in the bathroom is to show that Sol’s mom is strong and is willing to help SJ’s family. She would be a good resource for Sol to use in her fight against the killer–it looks like she could fight him off. It makes no sense to me why Sol isn’t telling her mom about it so she could at least help her be on the lookout for the killer–in her shop(!), which is open to the public.

Hi @BethB, thanks for listing more of what has been bothering me.

Everyone … a word of warning, I guess. If you love this show and don’t want to be affected by any negative comments, then please read no further./i> This is not meant to spoil anyone’s fun, but to mention stuff that’s bothering me about the show. It’s fine that many of us love the Show, regardless of what I think.

If there is significance in Im Sol’s Granny’s character, this needs to be in greater focus now. I recall being forewarned in Goblin as to who or what a certain side character might be. We were given several scenes in episodes before the final few to figure it out. I do not like that Show is letting Viewers bark up the wrong tree(s) here and there up to this point.

I asked myself why my attitude towards this Show has changed. Perhaps the suspicion of lazy writing and product placement for the show itself. Perhaps because I do not like the suspicion that I’m being played. There are holes and contrivances that are becoming glaring, and I’m guessing that Viewers are supposed to just accept them. While the ideas might have been great and the acting and romance lovely, I do not wish Viewers to be merely on an emotional high and because of that, to be led to think that it was a great show. I get annoyed when I suspect that Viewers are not being respected. I hope in the last 4 episodes Show will prove me wrong.

@Beth B and @Growing Beautifully, thanks for putting some of my feelings into print. I will continue to watch, hoping that the writer and director resolve these issues and give us logic and backstories. Yes, wth were some of those ‘comedy’ scenes about and why so long?

Going to the beach to frolic is certainly a trope – why does the action have to take place there rather than back at home? It seems like so many shows are including a seaside fix for the viewers atm. Unless it’s an aqueous progression. Swimming pool to stream to river to ocean? There is no bigger body of water and no further time travels. But that’s another random guess and unsupported without some backstory or logic.

I didn’t like the commedy scenes and skipped it. I don’t think they did anything that could result in a teenage child in 2023 either with only 4 ep left. Plus, that wouldn’t sit well with actors’ images in home country.

I still love the show and enjoy watching it.

What I’ve realised is that perfect policies, perfect governments, perfect people, perfect shows – just don’t exist. Constructive criticism is very important and that’s what keeps us progressing because of the very fact that utopia doesn’t exist – not in real life, not in dramas.

Given that, one needs to find what one can live with. I watch only one show at a time / once every two – three months so it becomes an escape I want to enjoy. And this show is serving that purpose.

My demon was that too – but I couldn’t watch it after a point. Same with QoT. But QoT was hugely popular. A certain age group went crazy with my demon too. It served their purpose in entertainment. The fact that they enjoyed these dramas (especially My Demon category) doesn’t prove anything about them personally because ultimately, this is rather benign entertainment and nothing beyond that.

If people can melt down nuclear reactors over “mistakes”, cost us thousands of lives over “miscalculation of impact”, what is in a show ?

Here, If the writer/director answers the questions, awesome. If they don’t that’s fine too. I hope they learn from this and provide better quality next time. Look at CEW in True Beauty vs Wonderful World… He had grown in acting skills and how.

LR is a first for the director, only the second for the writer, first for the ML and only the second for the FL. I hope they learn from everything they did wrong and do better next time. 💖 They gave me an escape I enjoyed for the 2 months they were on air and for me, that’s enough.

Ah. Correct @Hana. Wonderful World could be your My Demon. I use My Demon as a yardstick of how horrendous a drama is. MD was only about “VISU*LS”.

Thanks for the info. I’m still wondering if it’s been used in another kdrama and that scene was a reference to it. The song itself is supposedly a tribute to victims of the Gwangju Uprising in the 1980s. So it’s odd that it’s used here for the “tragedy” of a car sinking into the ocean.

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Hi @pkml3, please open a thread for Episodes 13 & 14 of this Show. Thanks!

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Unnie, I will watch it later on.

No Spoilers until everyone does!

Okie ! watched !! ❤️‍🔥

So I binge watched to Ep. 12.
I like the comedy for the show, and I like the characters. My gosh, Ryu Sun Jae is the perfect boyfriend! What a dreamboat!

Plotwise, I think ep. 12 is showing some weaknesses now. So SOL now have visions of the future out of the blue? Coincidences galore to get the Killer to come to the seaside. Sun Jae acting out of character letting Sol just get off the train alone when (in his view) she have amnesia. Doesn’t make sense. He has always been protective of her. He even make a vow to himself that he will risk his life for her, regardless. And now you expect viewers to believe he just let a vulnerable Sol just walk off the train by herself? Even if she doesn’t know Sun Jae, 19yr Sol certainly know Tae Sung and would be comfortable with him. Why wouldn’t Sun Jae have her sit with Tae Sung? Frankly, the train has many cars, so if Sol didn’t want to sit with any of the guys, she could just sit away from them next to someone else and go back to Seoul. There’s no good reason to get off the train.

Actually, why stay in the seaside at all? Wouldn’t it be better to lure the killer to the warehouse because that course of events is the known one? You have a better chance of changing the outcome since the killer’s actions would be known from the report. Plus, the police would definitely help since TS dad believing her about the killer. At the seaside, she is alone and lacking support. I don’t know… it feels like a script weakness.

For me, the time travel elements of the show are another weakness. I’m not a fan of time travel trope, and the time travel elements in this show have not changed my mind.

I agree with others that I don’t think Sol and Sun Jae had sex that night at the beach. 34yr Sol knows from before that 20Yr Sol always have memory loss of any time 34yr Sol is in the past, so she certainly wouldn’t do that to her. To not know how she lost her virginity. In real world, that kind of thing considered a form of sexual assault, to do things without the other person aware/knowledge. TBH, I didn’t even think of a pregnancy possibility. That would definitely make it seem more like a sexual assault for 20 yr Sol. To be pregnant with no memory of having sex with anyone. I think they just kissed and cuddled. However, show was a little ambiguous about what happened in the night. I don’t think they should have ended the scene with the 2 of them kissing and lying on top of each other. Probably better to show them ending the kiss and then falling asleep right after to make it clear nothing else happened.

@Fern:
I just watched Ep. 13
I agree the final scene was confusing. I look forward to the discussion on Ep. 13-14 Post, which is now available.