12 Comments On “Dreaming of a Freaking Fairy Tale: Eps 9 & 10 Open Thread”
agdr03
Hi 👋🏻
@GB , I can’t wait to finish it today. Thank you for the heads up. 🥰
@Table122000, it’s nice that you liked this drama too. ☺️
I’ll come back later when I have my me time. 😄
Thank you for the new thread. 🙇🏻♀️🤗
GrowingBeautifully (GB)
Take your time @agdr03! I’ll read you when you’re back. 🙂
One thing different about the opening credits of this Show is that the animation changes over the weeks. Often I ignore the opening credits after the first 2 or so episodes but I started noticing that we get different animation and a voiceover telling us what’s on our FL’s mind. By Episode 7 Cha Min has not been consistently charming, unfortunately… blowing hot and cold. He fluctuates between seeing Jae Rim as an employee and a woman… but interestingly, he’s not seen her as a stone!
Ep 7 opening credits tell us that JR’s thinking of poisoning her boss for being one of the men who confuse her. 😤 LOL. The Narrator tells us that … “Not expressing your feelings in advance could lead to misunderstanding or even murder.” 😂🤣
Ep 8 Title was “A Very Old Reconciliation” and the opening credits had Cha Min being dragged out of bed (where he’d been hiding) to face the world. This is confusing however because the reconciliation is Jae Rim’s with her stepfamily. However, CM too has his own demons to deal with.
Ep 9 opening credits had JR fighting and subduing her ‘demon/dragon’ of fear with the promise of a walk and a sausage LOL. The title: “An Unpredictable Magical Cave” and we’re back to JR wondering if CM has been sincere with her or not, but I like how it ends on a touching note.
Ep 10 needed no opening credits. We get a cold open to the continuation of the cool ending of Ep 9. The Title: “To the Prince Charming Me”. And so we see our heroine come more or less full circle or at least circled in a spiral upwards from being alone ‘down’ there, while expecting to be pulled up by a Prince, and that she’s moved upwards to taking ownership of her life and realising that she does not need a prince, and she’s not alone.
GrowingBeautifully (GB)
Episode 9
I really liked how Cha Min and Jae Rim have reached a level of friendship that allows CM to be so vulnerable with her. They have, in 8 short episodes (a few months, I’m guessing, because JR’s pregnant stepmum’s baby bump is growing bigger) grown to trust each other.
They were both kids who were or felt abandoned by their mothers, and who had felt unloved. The hurt they suffered coloured their attitudes towards connecting with others.
With JR’s help and hugs, CM is at least able to listen to his mother’s point of view of what happened to their family. He also gets to see that from JR’s point of view, his mum ought to be pitied as well. Thus far he’d only seen his mum through the filter of his dad’s and his own great pain.
I like that they have another conversation where they share their own dreams. Since we get several such long and meaningful conversations, I can totally buy into their love relationship.
It’s CM who points out to JR that she’s strong ie does not need a Prince Charming. She’s got nothing but is confident nevertheless. He also assures her that she’s crazy beautiful and so cool. He’s saying to her something of what she had said to Ho Dong to encourage him.
It’s so sweet to see them both happy with each other. Next morning CM’s good mood overflows into a dance in his walk-in wardrobe and he’s out early with flowers and a gift for JR. But big, bad Dan Ah pops up to add conflict. ☹️😤😠
GrowingBeautifully (GB)
Episode 9 – The Self Esteem Episode?? This is a sorta, kinda recap.
One of the highlights of this episode was that CM was ready to leave his umbrella at home and head out without it but thought better of it and brought it along. It saved him and JR from a random water attack by a passing child. However after this, he can give the umbrella to JR without hesitation, which is a pretty big deal for our insecure CM.
JR is broken hearted and angry that CM has agreed to marry Dan Ah. I like that JR gets to hear what applies to herself from an unexpected quarter. Dr Boyfriend of her sister Soo Jin tells her that he managed to finally woo Soo Jin/reach his dream by pouring everything into it, suffering what came along the way but continuing because he knew he was a great person.
The Club has unexpectedly been closed, and the staff are told to take a vacation.
It’s good that JR decides to confront CM over the closure of the Club, prepared even to tell him that despite her Cinderella dream, she likes him, to stop him from marrying Dan Ah. But the interview goes awry after she tells him that Do Hong had asked her to go to Germany with him and he lies that it means nothing to him, and she should go. JR is upset that this makes everything he did before seem insincere and she leaves after a forced kiss from him and a slap from her.
What she does not know is that just before this, CM had been cut off by Dad Moon without a penny. CM was trying to get JR to leave him (noble idiocy?) for the richer Do Hong.
It seems that not only are Dan Ah’s Uncle Thugs, thugs, but that her dad too has an army of them to thrash the Club. CM lets them break up stuff and gets a beating from Dan Ah’s Thug Dad. He loses the ring he had been holding that was meant for JR in the process.
We find that his own Dad Moon is no help either. Instead of encouraging him to get back on his feet, Dad Moon berates CM for choosing love over sticking with Dan Ah. He cuts him off without money so that he will see that JR will leave him now that he’s poor, and show him what a fool he’d been.
As an example of the worst parenting, Dad Moon actually tells JR that nobody loves him now. And this is just after JR had found out that mum loved him and been on the way to being healed. After insulting JR, CM is back to despising himself. The Club interior in ruins reflects CM’s emotional state.
JR too is depressed (and hiding in her blanket) thinking that she could not tell CM the truth about how she likes him and that he had been insincere towards her. She’s back to thinking that she’s someone who can’t be loved until she receives the restored picture, sent by CM, of herself (as Princess Charming) on a horse, which she’d drawn as a child.
CM’s note that came with the drawing: “I was earnest when I said you were no Cinderella. A warrior suits you better than Cinderella. A brave warrior who can go wherever she wants. You must have known as a kid; you were much cooler and stronger than you thought.”
All within one episode we have CM and JR going up and down and up on a seesaw of emotions (the Unpredictable Magical Cave of the title???) over whether they are lovable generally and especially to each other. It’s good that it ends off on the assurance that JR needed, that CM had been sincere in admiring her.
GrowingBeautifully (GB)
I’ve rewatched the ending and the thought that comes to me is that although I like the drama for its quirkiness, the OTP with chemistry, its coherence in storytelling, the fact that it had its message (some of it good and empowering) and the overall transition to a happy ending with growth and healing, I do not altogether agree with all parts of the message(s) that were espoused.
I actually enjoyed this Show despite noting that some parts rang either superficial or erroneous, or maybe it was the subs that made it sound that way.
One thing that bothered me was the ‘me’ factor. The focus ultimately was on ‘me’ mostly or only, rather than on ‘us’.
Cha Min’s motto was to “Follow Your Joy,” which in itself sounds okay except that it can be taken too far. We might after all say that Dan Ah was also following her joy in her insistence that CM marry her and focus only on her. She was the ‘princess’ to her Thug Dad to whom no one was allowed to say ‘No’. Overly entitled, she followed her joy to extremes and even her Uncle Thugs kidnapped JR for Dan Ah’s sake.
The ending ‘motto’ that we hear in JR’s voiceover says: “Regardless of what the world says, keep in mind that you are the main character of your life and create your own story. Then misery simply becomes a page in your story. Your villain becomes a supporting character. Everything will be for the sake of your dream. And eventually it will end happily ever after.”
I like the first part but the part about “Everything will be for the sake of your dream” sounds rather callow, or shallow, depending on how one looks at it. It is not quite so simple, or wise, that one chooses only everything just for the sake of one’s dream.
The other thing I feel uncomfortable about is what is said once by Cha Min and repeated by his mother about not saying so much in words to one’s beloved because love has to be felt. This also sounds naive, because lots of communication goes into a love relationship (few of us can read minds!). The feelings come and go, but love remains as the commitment, with much communication, and is not just a feeling.
So I worry that young people watching this will imbibe these ‘mottos’ as truths when they are NOT wise. Other than that, production-wise, the Show did not offend me, or perhaps, nothing ‘slapped me in the face’ and I’m not trying to find fault just for the heck of it. 🧐🙃😉
GrowingBeautifully (GB)
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agdr03
Waaaaaa! I love the last two episodes! 🥰
It actually made me cry and I wasn’t expecting it at all. 😄
You were right @GB that I would like it. ☺️ I will do a rewatch because I felt that the scenes were getting cut abruptly? I’m not sure if it’s the drama itself or from where I was watching.
But I love the first scene of episode 9. It was very honest and self boosting for JR. She really needed that.
I like that thought that we are our own Prince Charming Self. ☺️
GrowingBeautifully (GB)
Hi @agdr03, yes I liked these last 2 episodes too. There’s is so much self-empowerment in this that those abandoned, broken-hearted (as kids) OTP needed to know. They actually helped each other and Ho Dong with their encouraging words to each other.
I had another post about some bits about the show that I was not comfortable with, but on the whole, I really liked this show. If @pkml3 does not fish my post out for me, I’ll try and post it again.
GrowingBeautifully (GB)
I’ve waited a day or so, therefore I’ll post this again as it got swallowed up in the great hyperspace of spam mail I believe.
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I’ve rewatched the ending and the thought that comes to me is that although I like the drama for its quirkiness, for the OTP with chemistry, for its coherence in storytelling, the fact that it had its message (some of it good and empowering) and for the overall transition to a happy ending with growth and healing, I do not altogether agree with all parts of the message(s) that were espoused.
I actually enjoyed this Show despite noting that some parts rang either superficial or erroneous, or maybe it was the subs that made it sound that way.
One thing that bothered me was the ‘me’ factor. The focus ultimately was on ‘me’ mostly or only, rather than on ‘us’.
Cha Min’s motto was to “Follow Your Joy,” which in itself sounds okay except that it can be taken too far. We might after all say that Dan Ah was also following her joy in her insistence that CM marry her and focus only on her. She was the ‘princess’ to her Thug Dad to whom no one was allowed to say ‘No’. Overly entitled, she followed her joy to extremes and even her Uncle Thugs kidnapped JR for Dan Ah’s sake.
The ending ‘motto’ that we hear in JR’s voiceover says: “Regardless of what the world says, keep in mind that you are the main character of your life and create your own story. Then misery simply becomes a page in your story. Your villain becomes a supporting character. Everything will be for the sake of your dream. And eventually it will end happily ever after.”
I like the first part but the part about “Everything will be for the sake of your dream” sounds rather callow, or shallow, depending on how one looks at it. It is not quite so simple, or wise, that one chooses only everything just for the sake of one’s dream.
The other thing I feel uncomfortable about is what is said once by Cha Min and repeated by his mother about not saying so much in words to one’s beloved because love has to be felt. This also sounds naive, because lots of communication goes into a love relationship (few of us can read minds!). The feelings come and go, but love remains as the commitment, with much communication, and is not just a feeling.
So I worry that young people watching this will imbibe these ‘mottos’ as truths when they are NOT wise. Other than that, production-wise, the Show did not offend me, or perhaps, nothing ‘slapped me in the face’ and I’m happy to not find fault just for the heck of it. 🙂
Table122000
Thanks, @agdr03! Yes, I enjoyed this short and sweet rom com. Many thanks to you and the other BODers who shared your insights about this drama. The Doctor Sister’s rap proposal scene was one of the funniest K Drama moments I have seen this year. I also liked the positive messages of this drama. I liked the performances of the main lead actors and supporting cast were all good as well, although I like the SML actor better in his role over at My Sweet Mobster drama. I’m sorry that Dreaming of a Freaking Fairytale wasn’t easily available on the larger streaming sites, making this rom com a true “hidden gem.”
Hi 👋🏻
@GB , I can’t wait to finish it today. Thank you for the heads up. 🥰
@Table122000, it’s nice that you liked this drama too. ☺️
I’ll come back later when I have my me time. 😄
Thank you for the new thread. 🙇🏻♀️🤗
Take your time @agdr03! I’ll read you when you’re back. 🙂
One thing different about the opening credits of this Show is that the animation changes over the weeks. Often I ignore the opening credits after the first 2 or so episodes but I started noticing that we get different animation and a voiceover telling us what’s on our FL’s mind. By Episode 7 Cha Min has not been consistently charming, unfortunately… blowing hot and cold. He fluctuates between seeing Jae Rim as an employee and a woman… but interestingly, he’s not seen her as a stone!
Ep 7 opening credits tell us that JR’s thinking of poisoning her boss for being one of the men who confuse her. 😤 LOL. The Narrator tells us that … “Not expressing your feelings in advance could lead to misunderstanding or even murder.” 😂🤣
Ep 8 Title was “A Very Old Reconciliation” and the opening credits had Cha Min being dragged out of bed (where he’d been hiding) to face the world. This is confusing however because the reconciliation is Jae Rim’s with her stepfamily. However, CM too has his own demons to deal with.
Ep 9 opening credits had JR fighting and subduing her ‘demon/dragon’ of fear with the promise of a walk and a sausage LOL. The title: “An Unpredictable Magical Cave” and we’re back to JR wondering if CM has been sincere with her or not, but I like how it ends on a touching note.
Ep 10 needed no opening credits. We get a cold open to the continuation of the cool ending of Ep 9. The Title: “To the Prince Charming Me”. And so we see our heroine come more or less full circle or at least circled in a spiral upwards from being alone ‘down’ there, while expecting to be pulled up by a Prince, and that she’s moved upwards to taking ownership of her life and realising that she does not need a prince, and she’s not alone.
Episode 9
I really liked how Cha Min and Jae Rim have reached a level of friendship that allows CM to be so vulnerable with her. They have, in 8 short episodes (a few months, I’m guessing, because JR’s pregnant stepmum’s baby bump is growing bigger) grown to trust each other.
They were both kids who were or felt abandoned by their mothers, and who had felt unloved. The hurt they suffered coloured their attitudes towards connecting with others.
With JR’s help and hugs, CM is at least able to listen to his mother’s point of view of what happened to their family. He also gets to see that from JR’s point of view, his mum ought to be pitied as well. Thus far he’d only seen his mum through the filter of his dad’s and his own great pain.
I like that they have another conversation where they share their own dreams. Since we get several such long and meaningful conversations, I can totally buy into their love relationship.
It’s CM who points out to JR that she’s strong ie does not need a Prince Charming. She’s got nothing but is confident nevertheless. He also assures her that she’s crazy beautiful and so cool. He’s saying to her something of what she had said to Ho Dong to encourage him.
It’s so sweet to see them both happy with each other. Next morning CM’s good mood overflows into a dance in his walk-in wardrobe and he’s out early with flowers and a gift for JR. But big, bad Dan Ah pops up to add conflict. ☹️😤😠
Episode 9 – The Self Esteem Episode?? This is a sorta, kinda recap.
One of the highlights of this episode was that CM was ready to leave his umbrella at home and head out without it but thought better of it and brought it along. It saved him and JR from a random water attack by a passing child. However after this, he can give the umbrella to JR without hesitation, which is a pretty big deal for our insecure CM.
JR is broken hearted and angry that CM has agreed to marry Dan Ah. I like that JR gets to hear what applies to herself from an unexpected quarter. Dr Boyfriend of her sister Soo Jin tells her that he managed to finally woo Soo Jin/reach his dream by pouring everything into it, suffering what came along the way but continuing because he knew he was a great person.
The Club has unexpectedly been closed, and the staff are told to take a vacation.
It’s good that JR decides to confront CM over the closure of the Club, prepared even to tell him that despite her Cinderella dream, she likes him, to stop him from marrying Dan Ah. But the interview goes awry after she tells him that Do Hong had asked her to go to Germany with him and he lies that it means nothing to him, and she should go. JR is upset that this makes everything he did before seem insincere and she leaves after a forced kiss from him and a slap from her.
What she does not know is that just before this, CM had been cut off by Dad Moon without a penny. CM was trying to get JR to leave him (noble idiocy?) for the richer Do Hong.
It seems that not only are Dan Ah’s Uncle Thugs, thugs, but that her dad too has an army of them to thrash the Club. CM lets them break up stuff and gets a beating from Dan Ah’s Thug Dad. He loses the ring he had been holding that was meant for JR in the process.
We find that his own Dad Moon is no help either. Instead of encouraging him to get back on his feet, Dad Moon berates CM for choosing love over sticking with Dan Ah. He cuts him off without money so that he will see that JR will leave him now that he’s poor, and show him what a fool he’d been.
As an example of the worst parenting, Dad Moon actually tells JR that nobody loves him now. And this is just after JR had found out that mum loved him and been on the way to being healed. After insulting JR, CM is back to despising himself. The Club interior in ruins reflects CM’s emotional state.
JR too is depressed (and hiding in her blanket) thinking that she could not tell CM the truth about how she likes him and that he had been insincere towards her. She’s back to thinking that she’s someone who can’t be loved until she receives the restored picture, sent by CM, of herself (as Princess Charming) on a horse, which she’d drawn as a child.
CM’s note that came with the drawing: “I was earnest when I said you were no Cinderella. A warrior suits you better than Cinderella. A brave warrior who can go wherever she wants. You must have known as a kid; you were much cooler and stronger than you thought.”
All within one episode we have CM and JR going up and down and up on a seesaw of emotions (the Unpredictable Magical Cave of the title???) over whether they are lovable generally and especially to each other. It’s good that it ends off on the assurance that JR needed, that CM had been sincere in admiring her.
I’ve rewatched the ending and the thought that comes to me is that although I like the drama for its quirkiness, the OTP with chemistry, its coherence in storytelling, the fact that it had its message (some of it good and empowering) and the overall transition to a happy ending with growth and healing, I do not altogether agree with all parts of the message(s) that were espoused.
I actually enjoyed this Show despite noting that some parts rang either superficial or erroneous, or maybe it was the subs that made it sound that way.
One thing that bothered me was the ‘me’ factor. The focus ultimately was on ‘me’ mostly or only, rather than on ‘us’.
Cha Min’s motto was to “Follow Your Joy,” which in itself sounds okay except that it can be taken too far. We might after all say that Dan Ah was also following her joy in her insistence that CM marry her and focus only on her. She was the ‘princess’ to her Thug Dad to whom no one was allowed to say ‘No’. Overly entitled, she followed her joy to extremes and even her Uncle Thugs kidnapped JR for Dan Ah’s sake.
The ending ‘motto’ that we hear in JR’s voiceover says: “Regardless of what the world says, keep in mind that you are the main character of your life and create your own story. Then misery simply becomes a page in your story. Your villain becomes a supporting character. Everything will be for the sake of your dream. And eventually it will end happily ever after.”
I like the first part but the part about “Everything will be for the sake of your dream” sounds rather callow, or shallow, depending on how one looks at it. It is not quite so simple, or wise, that one chooses only everything just for the sake of one’s dream.
The other thing I feel uncomfortable about is what is said once by Cha Min and repeated by his mother about not saying so much in words to one’s beloved because love has to be felt. This also sounds naive, because lots of communication goes into a love relationship (few of us can read minds!). The feelings come and go, but love remains as the commitment, with much communication, and is not just a feeling.
So I worry that young people watching this will imbibe these ‘mottos’ as truths when they are NOT wise. Other than that, production-wise, the Show did not offend me, or perhaps, nothing ‘slapped me in the face’ and I’m not trying to find fault just for the heck of it. 🧐🙃😉
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Waaaaaa! I love the last two episodes! 🥰
It actually made me cry and I wasn’t expecting it at all. 😄
You were right @GB that I would like it. ☺️ I will do a rewatch because I felt that the scenes were getting cut abruptly? I’m not sure if it’s the drama itself or from where I was watching.
But I love the first scene of episode 9. It was very honest and self boosting for JR. She really needed that.
I like that thought that we are our own Prince Charming Self. ☺️
Hi @agdr03, yes I liked these last 2 episodes too. There’s is so much self-empowerment in this that those abandoned, broken-hearted (as kids) OTP needed to know. They actually helped each other and Ho Dong with their encouraging words to each other.
I had another post about some bits about the show that I was not comfortable with, but on the whole, I really liked this show. If @pkml3 does not fish my post out for me, I’ll try and post it again.
I’ve waited a day or so, therefore I’ll post this again as it got swallowed up in the great hyperspace of spam mail I believe.
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I’ve rewatched the ending and the thought that comes to me is that although I like the drama for its quirkiness, for the OTP with chemistry, for its coherence in storytelling, the fact that it had its message (some of it good and empowering) and for the overall transition to a happy ending with growth and healing, I do not altogether agree with all parts of the message(s) that were espoused.
I actually enjoyed this Show despite noting that some parts rang either superficial or erroneous, or maybe it was the subs that made it sound that way.
One thing that bothered me was the ‘me’ factor. The focus ultimately was on ‘me’ mostly or only, rather than on ‘us’.
Cha Min’s motto was to “Follow Your Joy,” which in itself sounds okay except that it can be taken too far. We might after all say that Dan Ah was also following her joy in her insistence that CM marry her and focus only on her. She was the ‘princess’ to her Thug Dad to whom no one was allowed to say ‘No’. Overly entitled, she followed her joy to extremes and even her Uncle Thugs kidnapped JR for Dan Ah’s sake.
The ending ‘motto’ that we hear in JR’s voiceover says: “Regardless of what the world says, keep in mind that you are the main character of your life and create your own story. Then misery simply becomes a page in your story. Your villain becomes a supporting character. Everything will be for the sake of your dream. And eventually it will end happily ever after.”
I like the first part but the part about “Everything will be for the sake of your dream” sounds rather callow, or shallow, depending on how one looks at it. It is not quite so simple, or wise, that one chooses only everything just for the sake of one’s dream.
The other thing I feel uncomfortable about is what is said once by Cha Min and repeated by his mother about not saying so much in words to one’s beloved because love has to be felt. This also sounds naive, because lots of communication goes into a love relationship (few of us can read minds!). The feelings come and go, but love remains as the commitment, with much communication, and is not just a feeling.
So I worry that young people watching this will imbibe these ‘mottos’ as truths when they are NOT wise. Other than that, production-wise, the Show did not offend me, or perhaps, nothing ‘slapped me in the face’ and I’m happy to not find fault just for the heck of it. 🙂
Thanks, @agdr03! Yes, I enjoyed this short and sweet rom com. Many thanks to you and the other BODers who shared your insights about this drama. The Doctor Sister’s rap proposal scene was one of the funniest K Drama moments I have seen this year. I also liked the positive messages of this drama. I liked the performances of the main lead actors and supporting cast were all good as well, although I like the SML actor better in his role over at My Sweet Mobster drama. I’m sorry that Dreaming of a Freaking Fairytale wasn’t easily available on the larger streaming sites, making this rom com a true “hidden gem.”
Sorry, @GB. Just seeing this now…
Thank you @pkml3! 🙂