Yes, @pkml3, the thread seems to be working for me. 🙂

6 minutes to go!!!

Here, ready! Pipi done in a clean way. 🙂
Hi GB and FF.

@GB, hmm hmm, what did you say so dirty to make your comment falls in the dark zone. 🙂

Great we have a resume.

Hi @WE. Yes @GB, we start! I have become predictable … ha.

Hey, Taximan learns for the first time it’s old-dude-from-past’s talkie?!

Confrontation with the killer cop.
And now the great moment I was waiting.
Bad cop want to keep the talkie, but taximan for ce his way. I’m a bit disappointed there was not a bigger fight about that.

Hi-5 @WE, I just said the same thing. Yes, he never knew before this that JH used that phone and it was like his lucky charm. Or even those details that Ahn told him about where it was found.

@GB, it’s smart about the concept. Only the same talkie could communicate with itself thought time.

@WE I have been thinking about the “smart concept”, just cannot imagine how that can happen.

@WE, yes, it makes sense because the instrument of connection is the exact same thing in different times. However, I like that there were links between SH, JH and HY as well, just that they were not aware of all of them for some time.

@WE what is HJ philosophy? Who is HJ?

@FF. In other dramas like that, the supernatural phenomenon often comes from a paradox tied to a psychic energy. See MOTA, it was an incident coming from a contradiction, something that shouldn’t have happened. Trying to kill someone in a zone of the game where killing isn’t allowed, merging reality and augmented one.

In W too. Sung-Moo is desesperate, but he transmited all his ideal condition to the hero. When he makes him die, it’s impossible for such a guy. And the will of the hero to survive meet the desire of Sung-Moo to be reborn. It’s really beautiful about deep psychology.

We get a light moment in the series with SH chasing after the mugger on her own. She actual runs on top of the car bonnet to jump on the mugger. Luckily she caught the right guy LOL. Imagine if she had been wrong!!!

JH calls her crazy for dreaming of the mugger.

In the present, HY is digging for info on JH from SH.

Ouch, I’ll be late, I need to rewatch the moment when the heroine arrest a guy. I missed that, I was writing here.

@WE, you’re referring to File Transfer Protocol?

HY is shocked that a new link to JH involves the 1999 case that led to his brother’s tragedy.

LOL Soo Hyun’s mum sits back and admires HY’s arms and strength. She’s out to get a boyfriend for her daughter. Korean women seem to like to see the veins on men’s arms LOLOL.

We find that such a long scene with SH’s mum is not irrelevant after all because now HY finds JH’s notebook and gets the memo kept in its back cover.

26 minutes into the episode and we finally get into the crime and the case. Oct 1997 and a very sweet looking Lee Sang Yub (actor) watches the woman at the convenience store.

This week we get JH moments again which we didn’t get last episode.

@FF, SH’s mum was so cute and so naughty!! If only SH knew. I think she never found out.

Oh Lee Sang Yoeb! Think this is the first drama that I saw him in, is he a serial killer here?

Ah. Shop employee (or owner). This good actor, often getting bad dude roles, like in “while you were sleeping”. But was the nice guy in “Eve”.
Turns out is a serial killer here?! Sadist one.

@FF, yes, the sweet Lee is the killer here. So sad. His story is sad too.

Now HY checks that JH never spoke to anyone else (ie not Ahn) over the walkie talkie in the last 2 years.

JH gets to hear that his notebook is with HY in the future and that he left a memo in it. Now the notebook will be another means of communication between them.

@WE LOLOLOL. OIC (Oh I see!)

But it was so apt, the data exchange between communication partners.

Now JH sees who the witness to the finding of the corpse is and does his own side investigation. Luckily his lousy Bad Boss Kim lets him run wild and free like this!

@FF, yes precisely!

Now data transfer from the witness to JH… only through the witness does he find out that it’s a serial killing.

More circular time warp stuff … The interesting thing about Hongwon-dong case was that if HY had not told JH about it, JH would not have investigated and found out that the case was a serial murder case. But the only way HY knew about it was through the note that JH had written and left in his notebook. So which came first???

@FF, so it was JH? lol. 🙂

@GB, chicken and egg question but I will JH wrote the note first.

@FF, so intriguing… JH wrote the note but it came after the chat on the radio with HY.

LOL now our Gye Chul is speaking in a higher and higher pitch to get the team to investigate on what he wants.

But suddenly SH mentions the same case that HY has mentioned to JH. So good that show gives us the basic info from 1997 and then the coincidence in 2015 that brings the Squad into the investigation started by JH again.

Gye Chul breaking his voice and still not getting what he wants.

I remember the police will start to find many corpses buried in the mountains.

@FF, yes, I believe in the next episode they find the corpses in the mountain… the police of the past did such a bad job that many cases became cold cases.

SH takes matters into her own hands and sees the info on the case.

SH walks in the footsteps of the victims and even listens to the sad kind of music they may have listened to.

She goes to the same convenience store.

The killer sees her and is like:
“wow, I found my perfect next victim”.

@WE, she’s stubborn and gets scolded by JH… she’s not qualified to do the job and shouldn’t do it alone since the victims were all women too.

Fortunately JH is the one who followed her, and fortunately she’s a survivor.

@FF, you’re right… it’s this episode that they find all the remains of victims.

I think SH was trying to figure out the routes of the victims and put herself into their shoes, listening to the same kind of music etc. I don’t think she expected to lure the killer immediately.

Jae Han gets worried that SH is not back at the precinct yet. She’s too foolhardy. She should have gone back earlier. The little dog seems to be a great lure to get victims.

JH goes in search, thank heavens!!!

Damn. A dog as cute as the one in “Where the moon rises and other historical drama words like sun, flower, river”.

What great timing… just as SH says she thought there were no more victims, the shout comes that they found another one. And another… and another …

ODFTP finds her.
It was close to death by lack of breathing.
But maybe she was able to breath a bit because the bag was badly closed.
For sure, a traumatic experience for her.
High emotion.

@WE, yes this episode was well balanced … we get past and 2015, we get comedy and tension and lots of high emotion at the end as cliff hanger.

@FF, I think the last time she ran into the wall and got knocked unconscious.

She didn’t know where she was going.

As we have a cliffhanger in today time, I see the writer chose to switch to a quick flashback scene for the very end. For emotion.

@FF, 9 corpses in the mountain, 2 before that in 1997. I guess there were 11 victims at least.

@GB, it’s kind of scene we get in W, ep6.
Yeon-Joo: something is preventing the manhwa to stop.
Soo-Bong: but what?
Yeon-Joo: (close up on her face)
Then a mystery scenes. We don’t know if it’s a flashback or real time.
The killer stand up on the bridge. We immediatly understand he’s preventing the end.

I like that we get to see the 5 members of the team together at least once. If only Ahn could get away from BBKim, he would have been a good team leader.

I didn’t rewatch next episodes, but thanks, we get a break.
So I’ll have time to watch. Ahhhh, relieved.

@WE, yes, with the break in the party (2 Saturdays) maybe some others can catch up and join us later.

@FF, I like the ending of this criminal case. It’s very satisfying or satisfactory. Finally this one case worked out well with HY and JH both on it.

@GB, with great pleasure, you know I don’t have a lot of feedback or readers. 😉
I want to finish W2 this year to propose it without people suffering waiting for episodes not rewritten yet. I mean, for now, you get until ep42 and “what’s next?”.

I think I can get caught up in three weeks time. I rewatched episodes one and two while I was on the airplane coming back from my holiday. Captivating and just so clever!

@GB Such a funny clip from the big bang theory.TY

I feel very excited about season two. If there ever was a show That deserves a Second season, this is it.

I think I could rewatch easily enough.And enjoy it.

I am finding it difficult to remember the time lines and sequences of events, Just as you and WE Discussed. I think I have it all straight and then when I think about it a couple of weeks later i’ve lost track.

I have been trying to figure out how old female lead is in twenty fifteen. She
Was probably around 22 when she joined the force.But I don’t remember that date now.😊 And how old would jae han be if he is still alive in twenty fifteen?

This feels like homework for season two😁

@MM, that’s a good point. It was very fortunate that she also found the figure of the man on the motorcycle familiar enough to recognise him without ever seeing his face. She actually proved JH right when he retorted something about not needing to see the face in order to catch the criminal.

A good argument for having more women and minorities in the police force Here in north america. More diverse perspectives and skills are beneficial.

@MM
I will see if I can post my guesswork on the relative ages of the protagonists in the next Rewatch Thread. The problem is that only Hae Young ever revealed his age once to Soo Hyun’s mum. Other than that, we have to guess their ages at different times. Nevertheless I made a rough table of their ages in different years, all based on guesswork.

I imagine that Jae Han in 2015, if he was still alive, would be in his mid to late forties.

@MM, please try this link and let me know if you can access this doc in Google Drive.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/19UolqZxTmar2TYOc-YA2LYIWgRvbNXZT/edit?usp=sharing&ouid=107152512466791964570&rtpof=true&sd=true

I forgot that I did note JH’s birthdate as shown on his employee form that HY was reading, so we do have JH’s age over the years, as well as HY’s.

@MM, I don’t believe we ever get to hear or see what SH’s actual age is. I extrapolate from the time she would have been a rookie… I believe that she’d have been able to start work at age 18-19 (Korea’s official age of adulthood should be 19). But I feel that she does not look like she’s much over 36 years of age in 2015 and so didn’t want her age to end up as 39 in 2015. I at first wanted to set her age as rookie around 17 but felt that was unlikely. The earliest I could imagine that they’d accept her to full employment was at age 18 when she started in 1995.

From appearances I’d put her down to only 35 years of age to Hae Young’s 27, which would have not been too bad if this was a noona romance. However, it isn’t. I feel that they grew to have a comradeship especially in their discovery that JH was an important part of both their lives, that they both cared about him, and that through the magical walkie-talkie, they were both able to still communicate with him.

@MM, wow, when you put it that way, it just floored me too! HY’s first experience of the transmission was JH’s last (or almost the last), and JH had to tell him (I think it was a later transmission when JH was bleeding) that HY would have to convince him (JH) about the transmissions from the past.

The ‘first’ transmissions to each other were (was?) a loop-inside-loop of time somehow??? JH hears in 2000 that HY was only receiving the transmission for the first time… and guesses that the 1989 transmissions about South Gyeong-gi murders have not taken place yet for HY.

It needed year 2000 JH to convince 2015 HY that the transmissions were really from the past. And then it needed 2015 HY to convince 1989 JH of the same thing or rather that the transmissions were from the future.

The often hidden, put aside or discarded ‘protagonist’ of the past-future transmissions connection was the walkie talkie (or radio for short), but it was the most crucial article in bringing down many baddies and saving lives.

What the show seems to imply is that the radio was imbued with JH’s great sense of justice and his determination to not let the criminals get away with their crimes, (although in his time they did). It appears that the radio waited for the right time to ‘act’.

The stars had to align. During the investigation of the 2000’s Kim Yoon Jung kidnapping, HY had seen the killer and reported to the police but had been ignored. He had even bumped into JH and dropped the note about whom the killer was. JH had picked up the note and had been investigating the same case without success. At the same time, the radio that had been stuck in the police storeroom had been discarded and left just where 2015 HY, now a police profiler, was passing so that he could hear his name being called. (I wonder if the radio ever tried to transmit anything when it was in the storeroom).

On top of that, Soo Hyun who had liked JH became HY’s team leader and would definitely be interested to solve the cold cases left by JH. The stars really had aligned so that JH who had been working mostly alone, finally found partners to work with, who had the same sense of dedication and justice that he had. The only thing was that they were separated by time and could communicate only when the radio decided to transmit. What an intriguing concept upon which to base the story! And how well it was told!

The lights came on with your statement about each having to convince the other about the transmissions. I never understood JH’s comment that he would need to be convinced in 1989. So he could save his love interest! and fully engage in subsequent transmissions.

In the first episode there is a scene when JH is in his car and looks at the walkie talkie . I think it is when he is reading the note from the child HY. There may be another contextualizing scene at that part of the drama in episode 1 as well but I forget.

Yes the walkie talkie was his lucky charm and SY was a part of that when she put the smilie sticker on it.

I still do not fully understand the details of the similarities and differences in JH being attacked at the beginning and at the end. Will probably be crucial to the second season. I look forward to discussing this as we finish the rewatches.

I could watch the entire show again and understand even more. Every rewatch is like another cycle of better comprehension for the viewer, just as the show is cycling through the same events for the characters.

The sequel sure has a high bar to meet or at least come close to.

@MM, yes, precisely! That is why it’s hard for me to be happy with shows that fail to at least ‘respect the viewer’. I accept that not all writers can be as good. I accept some coincidences, plot holes and contrivances. They may have been overlooked or necessary. But the overly contrived coincidences, and too many of them, that are too unlikely, just to push certain plot points annoy me, especially when we are supposed to just forgive them because the leads are cute or the romance is sweet.

Thanks for the news @MM! My goodness, we still have a long wait ahead of us!! I thought that the Show had already been more or less shot but with everything under wraps (which is why I only see Lee Je Hoon’s name on the cast list). I guess at the earliest it will air sometime end of this year. 🙂