I’ll answer Fern’s questions here.
It sounds like Lee Gon, his uncle and their henchmen will travel back again and again a bit like ‘Ground Hog Day’ until one of them succeeds. Hmmm.
Why do you think LG’s uncle Prince Buyeong (or his parallel counterpart?) is the body in the car? He arrived by jet in time for the latter part of the funeral. He would be next in line for the throne, judging by the increased security every time the king runs off. He says he was amused by LG’s escapes.
Remember, this is only a hunch, Fern. 🙂
I thought the ROK counterpart of Prince B was the body in the trunk of the car because:
a. The dead person is a Lee, also.
He was Lee Sang-do, a hardware store owner.
b. All the Lee’s must be killed off. Prince Buyeong is probably next. LG is last. Only then can the Uncle start his “world domination.” That’s his goal, right? Or is it “world annihilation? I guess, it’s one and the same. If the Uncle dominates, then he annihilates.
I suspect that the bad Uncle had Prince Buyeong’s counterpart killed after he tracked him down.
c. In the end, the last two men standing should be the Uncle and Lee Gon. There’s going to be a great battle between good and evil. And the hero must be made to think that it’s his ragtag team vs powerful Uncle and the forces of evil.
The Uncle was shown painting a building but I’m sure restoration was only a hobby. After 25 years, he must be an influential person in the government, like a member of Congress.
d. Prince Buyeong arrived by jet and welcomed by palace.
I thought, in contrast, his counterpart should be dead-on-arrival, stowed in the trunk of the car, identity unknown.
Is he another time/dimension traveler and if so, is he good or bad?
Remember my disclaimer: this time travelling business is only a theory. It isn’t proven yet. I could be wrong.
My reasons for predicting that there’s a time travel are:
a) the nametag. It came from 2019 when the coup happened in 1994.
b) the other details in Episode 1 (like the relationship between Jo and LG, LG’s work on parallel universe, the Old Court Lady, etc.,) seem to indicate a PREVIOUS lifetime. I’ll discuss this later, hopefully.
c) the White Rabbit and the clock
But no, I don’t think Prince Buyeong can hop from different time dimension and parallel world.
A. For travel across space or between the parallel worlds, only the people holding the flute can travel between the two worlds. The flute gives its owner the magic ability to hop, but since the flute was cut in two, both LG and his Uncle can travel between two worlds. The Uncle discovered the flute’s “magic” first. LG wouldn’t have known about its magical powers hadn’t he followed the White Rabbit.
B. For travel across time or between 2019 and 1994, I posit that LG needs a “clock.” I don’t know much about this clock because the writer KES hasn’t introduced this time travel yet. We’ll have to wait and see what she intends to do.
For now, my best guess is time travel is associated with Luna, the White Rabbit. In the “Alice” book, the White Rabbit carried the pocket watch. LG probably thought that if he captured Luna/White Rabbit, he would get his hand on the clock or get information from Luna which would allow him to travel through time.
also wondered about the i.d. from the murder scene. It’s not around the savior’s neck, it’s in a side pocket. That’s why the boy can reach it easily, maybe intentionally. (photo above) If the savior is LG rather than Tae-Eul, why does he have her i.d., and then why is adult LG so set on finding her if she’s not the savior? Or does he have to re-learn everything each time he grows up? No, not everything, certainly. Was Tae-Eul involved in something else in KoC? Was she the savior the first time but not after that?
To explain this, I’ll have to go through a few scenes. Please bear with me. 🙂
In Episode 2, LG was shown entertaining the idea that his rescuer was somebody other than TaeEul. That’s why he did this:
He asked the Police Colleague to stand in front of him.
Then, he flipped over his hoodie.
He was checking to see if this man was his rescuer in 1994.
Friend: Are you crazy? What was that all about?
LG: Just in case you are my savior. I wished you weren’t and you aren’t.
Meaning, by the looks of it, his Police didn’t look like a savior. This guy is too short, and he looked like a hobbit with his hood over his head like that.
He didn’t look lethal like this guy in black.
Friend: Who is this crazy bastard?
LG: I’ve heard that many times since my arrival. Although it doesn’t mean you can say it though.
He meant that TaeEul had been calling him “crazy bastard.” However, he allowed TE to call him that (although she would have been beheaded if she was in KOC) but he wasn’t going to permit this Police guy to address him such terms. Of course, the police didn’t understand anything he was saying.
Friend: Every word you say is beyond common sense.
LG: (addressing him like he would a commoner) You had better watch what you say. Beheading is my kindest offer.
He meant that he should watch his language with him because he’s the King. He could have him tortured so badly that beheading would have been the kindest cut of all.
Friend: What do you think my kindest offer is then? I’m the kindest when I just met someone. (because he observes the niceties) Which means if I see you once again, there’ll be more than just kind words (because he’ll punch him, lol)
LG: (to himself) I still have no clue what relationship he and TE has.
See that? He was operating as if he’d already considered the possibility that the ID card was in the possession of someone who was close to TE, and not TE herself, when he grabbed it.
LG waited for TE to come down. When she did, she told him that she was going somewhere and that she didn’t want him to go with her. She told him to stay with his horse.
However, she hadn’t gone far when she suddenly changed her mind. She remembered his question back in the chicken place. He’d asked her, “Anything else? Is there any other reason? The reason why I have to stay in your world. Could there be a reason?”
Actually, the conversation started out like this:
TE: So, are you saying that I should taste your food (to check for poison)?
LG: No. If this food is poisoned and I’m dying here, what I’m going to tell you now will be my last words.
TE: Shoot! (meaning, Go ahead. Tell me what you have to say. She’s being sarcastic.)
LG: Thank you for everything. Because you existed somewhere, I was less lonely for the past 25 years.
Then, he stuck a fork in chicken, sighed, and bit the drumstick. Silly product placement for fried chicken. I wonder how many millions did they get to have LMH chew on chicken.
All the while, TE sat there speechless. She was stunned by his words.
His words surprised me, too. I was expecting him to thank her for saving him 25 years ago. I thought he’d thank her for that singular act of bravery.
Instead, he thanked her for EXISTING. The mere thought that she lived and breathed somewhere out there was enough to sustain him for 25 years. He couldn’t see her, true. But she was somewhere out there, so he wasn’t alone.
Kinda like that old song.
I thought that was a momentous confession. However, unlike in “Crash Landing on You,” there was no schmaltzy music in the background. That’s why the viewers didn’t get the “feels.” (Boooooo! The music director failed here.)
And their conversation became mundane again. He talked about ROK’s history and the difference between his kingdom and ROK.
TE: Do you write novels online? Is that what you wrote until now? (she was sarcastic)
Suddenly, LG had this flashback of the time the flute and TE’s ID were returned to him by the Court Lady. He’d been a young kid staring at her picture and wondering, “Do you think it’s here? The reason why I survived that day?”
LG became impatient with TE then. He’d been hard at work trying to understand her country because he wanted to know if the reason he escaped death was so he could be here in ROK one day. Those were his existential questions: Did I survive that fateful day to be here? Is this where I belong? Will I find my reason for existence in this world? Is my reason for living here?
LG: Why do you never believe anything I say?
TE: Is that how belief works?
Meaning, is she to believe something simply because HE said so? She can’t believe him because she doesn’t know him.
TE: (continuing) Am I supposed to believe nonsense just like that? I’m the type of person who still can’t believe the world is round. But a parallel universe? Pre-meal bakery? Stop your nonsense and eat before it gets cold.
Here’s Table122000’s explanation. I’m quoting her here because she’s right on the mark!
my take is that Kim Go Eun is a typical “cynical cop” who only believes in what she sees. Hence her soewhat sarcastic remark to Lee Gon who tells her he’s from a parallel universe. She doesn’t believe him, of course and emphasizes this with the comment “I don’t believe the world is round.” Meaning, i’m not going to believe anything you say just because you say it. I don’t think she actually doesn’t believe in accepted science, rather it’s a remark just said to emphasize that she is not believing him. I guess we will see.
TE: (continuing) Just do one thing before we get your DNA test result. Do nothing.
LG: If you don’t believe me, why do you help me? Is this some kind of a sense of duty?
TE: You need that (a sense of duty) only when you have to save the country.
Ha! That’s a foreshadowing. They’ll be saving two worlds.
LG: (insisting) Then why?
TE: There’s no reason! I just do it. I’m a police office of the Republic of Korea.
LG: (still persisting) Anything else? Is there any other reason? The reason why I have to stay in your world? Could there be a reason?
Those were Lee Gon’s questions which so bothered TaeEul that she made an about-face and returned to him. She found him still standing where she left him.
He was staring at something.
I believe it was this green door.
You see there was small door too in “Alice in Wonderland.” The door led to go the gardens. Alice wanted to go out the door but she couldn’t because she was too big. So she had to drink a potion to shrink. (Or eat the chocolate cake? I can’t remember now.)
TE: Why are you still here? Will you keep standing here?
LG: You really shouldn’t treat me like this.
TE: Why not?
LG: (lol he sounds like he’s about to cry) Because it upsets me.
TE: What?
LG: Why should you leave me? You’re the only person I know in this world.
TE: You’re driving me crazy. Fine. Since you brought it up, let me ask you. Why am I the only person you know in this world? You act like you know me, but I don’t know you. How do you know me?
LG: I acquired your ID card 25 years ago. To be precise, someone lost it.
There you go again. This was the second time he indicated that he was opened to the idea that his rescuer was NOT TaeEul herself but an individual who happened to have her card. He checked out her Police Colleague earlier. And now, he was saying that an individual, related to her, lost it.
TE: Twenty-five years ago? Who lost it?
LG: I’m still looking for the person. The person seems to be related to you.
Of course! Because it’ll be him, going back in time. He’ll be related to her.
TE: Of course. If that person had my ID card, they have to be related to me somehow. Let’s say what you’re saying is true. But twenty-five years ago, I was only five. (Now, she’s going to be sarcastic again) Of course, I was more than qualified to become a detective when I was five. But still, you fool, how would someone find my ID card 25 years ago?
LG: I don’t know why, but your ID card that I have was issued on November 11, 2019. And I have been waiting for that day.
TE: November 11? That’s Leonardo DiCaprio’s birthday. I totally forgot about him. Were we just meant to be? Hey, Mr. Kim Gaeddong. You’re having delusions. Seriously, stop this and go see a doctor with the money you got from the diamond.
LG: I don’t have any left.
TE: Right. It’s…I’m not just saying this. You must have a family and they must be worried about you.
LG: Family? Is that what you wanted to know? (she agreed) Okay, I’ll give you answer. I’m still single.
lol. He thought that she was wary of him because she didn’t know his marital status.
TE: What are you trying to say?
LG: Which means I don’t have any immediate family. Therefore, I have just made a very important decision. I’m going to give you the position where you have to know who I am.
He was turning the tables on her. He was going to use logic. Earlier, she said she didn’t believe him because she knew NOTHING about him. So, now he found a way to make her believe him because she knew EVERYTHING about him.
What new information was he going to impart to her?
This: Before he was single, but now he was taking her as his wife, the Queen. Being his Queen, she’ll be in a position to know everything about him.
TE: Fine. Give it to me. What is it? (she’s saying, “Whatever. Just tell me.”) I wish I could understand you.
LG: Lieutenant Jeong Tae-Eul, I take you to be my wife, the Queen.
TE: What?
LG: You just became the reason. The reason why I should stay in this world.
TE: Goodness. He wasn’t just half-crazy. He is completely crazy.
So now, Fern, to answer your questions:
If the savior is LG rather than Tae-Eul, why does he have her i.d.,
We don’t know yet why he had her ID. We only know two things right now:
1. Tae-Eul said, “If that person had my ID card, they have to be related to me somehow.”
2. And LG made himself “related” to her by taking her as his wife, the Queen.
and then why is adult LG so set on finding her if she’s not the savior?
Remember when he thanked her for existing? I said I was surprised that he didn’t thank her for saving him.
To me, that’s ONE reason he was set on finding her: she had been his reason for living.
He wanted to thank her for giving him the reason to live these past 25 years. He was alone in his world, but knowing that she was somewhere out there, made him less lonely. He was set on meeting her someday to thank her for being his reason to live. He probably marked 2019 as the year she was going to find her.
That’s why he said, “I’m older than you now, Lieutenant Jeong TaeEul.” (lol. I think I heard him say, “I’m your OPPA now.” This was a more personal for him.) To me, he’d been biding his time till he could meet her again.
That’s why he embraced her at their first meeting. He was astounded, grateful, relieved, gobsmacked, and astonished, altogether. You see, for 25 years, she’d been a figment of his imagination. He really had no way of knowing with CERTAINTY that she existed. He could only rely on his FAITH that she existed.
But there she was, standing in front of him.
Do you get what I mean? If you’re a religious person, you’ll understand me better because it’s the same concept. The writer KES is big on this “relying on faith” to survive. That’s why Gong Yoo in the “Goblin” could wait forever for EunTak, his bride, to appear before him. He could hope for her coming because he had faith.
But for me, there was ANOTHER reason he was set on finding her: he was looking for his meaning in life.
She had been his REASON for staying alive, but was she also his PURPOSE in life. Those are two subtly different ideas, you know. The first one refers to stimulus, primary cause, or origin. The latter is aspirational.
As I said, for the last 25 years, he was passing time, waiting for the moment when he could finally meet her. BTW, that’s the reason he wasn’t interested in dating, and rejected all advances by the Prime Minister.
But he’s also wondering: now that he met her and thanked her, is there something MORE to their encounter. He must be wondering why he’s brought THERE in that world. What’s his mission?
That’s why he asked in the restaurant, “Anything else? Is there any other reason? The reason why I have to stay in your world? Could there be a reason?”
Or this:
And he thinks the answer lies with TaeEul. That’s why he had asked her.
That’s also why he visited the museum with the King exhibit after the chicken dinner.
He wanted to ask the Kings: He came from the ALTERNATE line of the Kings, so why was he brought to this world? What was he doing here? Why was he sent here to this parallel universe…where the monarchy no longer existed?
What’s his purpose? (aside from looking handsome? snort)
Or does he have to re-learn everything each time he grows up? No, not everything, certainly.
If I am correct about this temporal loop, then yes, LG has to re-learn everything each time he grows up. It’s the same reason that his father, the King, is killed each time.
Think of it as something similar to reincarnation. LG repeats the same things each time he’s reborn. But he doesn’t remember anything so it will feel as if he’s living it for the first time.
Was Tae-Eul involved in something else in KoC?
Currently?
No.
She’s in ROK. But if she returns with him to his world, then she becomes Queen.
But hmmm…something will have to be done with Luna. There can’t be two of them in one world.
Note: In “Through the Looking Glass,” Alice participates in a chess game. She starts off as a pawn; she can only move one step at a time. Meaning, she can’t see much of the playing field. A pawn pretty much describes Tae-Eul’s position right now in the drama. She doesn’t have a clue as to what’s going on. lol.
But as Alice moves across the board, she begins to understand the game. Finally, when she reaches the other side of the board, she becomes the queen. As queen, Alice sees everything across the board and goes anywhere quickly. She checkmates the Red King, thereby ending the game. She then wakes up from the dream. (Remind me about the King’s dream…)
That’s why I thought the proposal to make Tae-Eul his queen was such an important decision for Lee Gon to make. In chess, the Queen has more power than the King who’s reduced to relying on the Queen and the rest of the chess pieces for protection.
This again describes Lee Gon’s helpless situation in ROK to a T, doesn’t it. Like a king in chess, he’s dependent on Tae-Eul and her people for survival.
Was she the savior the first time but not after that?
We really should wait for the writer KES to expound on her ideas because right now, all I’m doing is speculating.
It’s entirely possible that TaeEul was part of the “rescue mission.” Although Lee Gon was the one who single-handedly fought the coup plotters, TaeEul could have been the *inspiration* for the mission. She could have been the driving force, the spirit or the brains behind the operation. Hence, the ID in Lee Gon’s pocket.
There’s more than one way to become someone’s personal savior. 🙂
Anyway….
Did you notice that Lee Minho had a bathroom scene without a naked torso? hahaha. Did he finally wisen up and stipulate a non-nudity clause in his contract like Hyun Bin?
Bravo!
“When Uncle dominates, Uncle annihilates.” Thank you for making my day, @pm3!
Thank you @packmule for all of these thoughts. Because they can’t be in the same world, I wonder if Luna and Tae Eul will swap places at some point. Luna had no traceable identification in KoC and neither will Tae Eul if she goes there. Has the uncle been using Luna as a decoy to get LG on the other side flute in hand? Also, there was an indication that Luna had terminal cancer. If a person has a counterpart in both worlds, what does it mean if one of them dies? I suppose the uncle has overcome this effect, but then, he has the flute.
I liked his below-the-radar confession at the chicken place. I wonder if his insistent words about the reason for being there, were taken by Tae Eul then as his hope for a reciprocal comment / low-key flirting but afterwards, she felt more curious/empathetic.
Haha. I thought the green door was simply down a few steps and led into a ‘garden-level’ cellar. We have one. It would look very short from a distant vantage point.
The jacket LG was wearing at the chicken place fit well with the reversing time theme. It was covered in tailor markings, as it would be prior to being sewn. Any still visible marking would be removed on the finished product, of course.
But but but Fern! That’s haute couture! Those running stitches on his jacket were part of the design. 😂 You shouldn’t remove them. That would be like patching up the torn knee on a pair of Armani jeans!! 😂😂
All his clothes were couturier. That’s why he ran out of money quickly. But now that he’s a pauper, let’s see how he deals with that.
I know, but it fits, doesn’t it? I love that jacket, btw. Much more than the pink mega-cardi. For a mathematician, he knows very little about cause and effect spending. Lol.
Sometimes what passes off as haute couture nowadays looks like Salvation Army slim pickings.
I used to like Givenchy till Meghan Markle fancied that she was Audrey Hepburn II, and co-opted that brand. Ugh!
Happy birthday to your Queen, btw! 👑
I thank you on her behalf. We’re a mixed family of pro- and con-Royals. I believe it’s a non-event this year due to the virus being foremost on people’s minds. No block parties for the queen this time around. She didn’t even want a gun salute; said it wasn’t appropriate this year, which I think was astute of her.
Don’t let Meghan steal your vibe. Stay with Givenchy if you love their designs. All the couturiers were clamouring to be selected by her.
During the steamy-mirror bathroom scene with bathrobe-covered LMH, I could feel the disappointment emanating from Shallow Island.
Dear @pacmule3, I just wrote about a mathematical operator in your last Post abot The King. I will copy it in this newer one since I *think* can help:
“In other order of ideas for some reason this two parallel universes influencing one another remembered me of the mathematical operation of CONVOLUTION. Using Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convolution
It states that the Convolution process is both the operator and the result of the operation in which two function (one right as it is and the other one INVERTED AND SHIFTED) are multiplied and integrated in order to see how one operates on the other. In other words, how this image of ROK (KOK is in this scenario the original function since our protagonist is the observer *cough* narrator *cough*) is transformed (operated) by ROK and it is interesting to see both places shifted in time and in both economic systems and values.
So as far as I see it (I haven’t read Lewis Carrol’s Alice in Wonderland nor Through the Mirror) while Mr. Carrol’s magnum operas deal with the world of imagination and a mathematical mirror of our reality, it is for King Lee to find what this interaction among universes will give as a result.
Please remember that while ROK is an industrial juggernaut with democracy and free speech (even if they are one of the most corrupt societies in the G20) while KOK seems less developed (trolley cars are charming as hell but also outdated) and if we take the “cut their heads” menace at face value then KOK seems more like a totalitarian monarchy with a Prime Minister and finger appointed representatives. It will be interesting to see the King improving his country.
Hope to read you all soon!!! =D”
Kudos for “Somewhere Out There” sung by Linda Ronstadt & James Ingram for “An American Tail” (1986)
Sigh I am torn. I will try to summon up enough enthusiasm to keep watching the next 2 episodes because you build a compelling case for the script. Question is can I endure more of His Highness trying (operative word) to be clever (and funny) with his constant “off with your head” exclamations. Of note, apparently this drama has been a boon for the stud…err…steed…Mahk-see-moose…his break out role. 🙂😍
https://www.kpopmap.com/the-character-that-received-attention-from-netizens-in-the-king-eternal-monarch/
@Welmaris, cheer up. He may be saving it for a more important scene.
@FGB4877, thank you for the mv. Two of my favourite singers and a lovely song.
@nrllee, thanks for making me laugh about Maximus. They’re describing Minimus as the ‘cute child actor of the horse. The foal was running around.’ Eejits. Poor LMH, getting upstaged by an animal. (Who said never act with animals or babies?)
I was going to suggest the LG could work as a clothing model to earn some dosh but his uncle would find him too quickly. Actually, he and his horse will have been all over social media by the end of the 2nd ep. so his uncle prob. already knows he’s in RoK. I will now pull my covers over my head and try not to dwell on this. Ahem.
Hello ladies and gentlemen!
Hoping every one is staying safe and healthy!
I haven’t gotten over CLOY yet and still waiting for packmule3 to grade it 🙂
Thank you for the insights as I’ve been quite confused trying to follow the storyline of this drama…
On your LMH’s photo posted above with the caption” Lieutenant Jeong Tae-eul,” something isn’t quite right with LMH’s left earlobe (?). It appeared that a part of the outer earlobe is missing (?)
Kudos for “Somewhere Out There” sung by Linda Ronstadt & James Ingram for “An American Tail” (1986)
I love this classic! Can always sing it with heart! 🥰 😂
It was covered in tailor markings, as it would be prior to being sewn.
But but but Fern! That’s haute couture! Those running stitches on his jacket were part of the design.
I wanted to remove it big time. It annoyed the hell out of me especially with that one strand on his right shoulder. 😂 Meghan Markle – hmmp!😏
@KDrama Newbie. You made me look at his earlobe 😂. Who knows what happened to His Majesty’s ear? Maybe Maximus took a nibble when he was little? Maybe LMH was born like that?
Why are we looking at LMH’s ears??!! 😂🐰🐇
@nrllee and packmule3: I guess it stood out while I was reading the post =)
@packmule3: I remember you mentioned in CLOY that during EPS 8, some kdrama might get drowned or something to that effect………so I’m pulling up my rocking chair; sit quietly and enjoying all of the great analysis!
There was something I realized. JY never reported to OCL that he discovered that the Uncle was alive (ROC). Its been established that the Uncle “died” when they found him on the beach in Ep1. JY is head of security so he gotten this memo. However, in Ep2, he found a photo of the dead Uncle at the rowing competition. JY looked through JY FanGirl’s (Myung Seung-A) camera at the coffee shop. JY & OCL had a debriefing later on that evening with OCL (ie. Shaman conversation) and he does not bring it up. The question is why since it seems like a pertinent issue.
Also, could there be a potential romance b/n JY & JY FanGirl? How did he know to find her at the coffee shop? JY FanGirl realized this and asked … *crickets.*
I thought I’d document a timeline here, since the thread for episodes 1-2 is so long.
Evil Prince arrives in Seoul, wearing bloodied clothing and muddy shoes. The implication is that he’s come directly from fleeing the assassination and entering the portal in the bamboo forest. He looks at a daily newspaper which is dated 1994-12-8. He meets the ROK version of the king (his younger half-brother, whom he’d just killed in KOC). ROK parallel brother/king mistakes Evil Prince for his older half brother. Evil Prince asks, “So, where is your brother right now?”
Scene immediately following is Evil Prince, alone and still in bloody clothing & hand bandage, letting himself into an apartment where he finds the ROK version of himself, wheelchair-bound and suffering from aphasia. Evil Prince kills him by snapping his neck. [Camera does a slow counter-clockwise tip-to-the-side view of the room.] ROK version of child LG enters the apartment, sees Evil Prince standing and thinks he’s his uncle, but then sees his real uncle in the wheelchair. He grabs a couple sharp lengths of rebar to defend himself, Evil Prince makes a menacing speech, and the scene ends.
We see a woman with a battered face and bruised neck identifying the body of her husband at the police morgue. He was drunk at the time of death, and is suspected to have been the victim of a hit-and-run. She asks to be allowed to go back to work since she confirmed the body is her husband; she also states her preference he be cremated at government expense rather than having the body released to her. We see her return to her apartment, and she notices the mess her husband left on the table. She says, “Well, at least he had a meal before his death.” The implication is that this is the same day her husband died. She gets up and starts clearing the table, and we see Evil Prince behind her, sitting in the wheelchair. The camera focuses on his bloody signet ring and bandaged hand. The implication is that he hasn’t yet cleaned up following the assassination, so it is still the day he arrived in Seoul (1994-12-8 per daily newspaper). Woman laughs as she cleans dishes, talking to herself about how she’d prayed her husband would die, but someone else killed him before she did it or her husband killed her. Evil Prince stands up from his seat and approaches the woman, who backs up then falls into a sitting position. Scene ends. Episode 2 shows us the continuation of this scene as a memory of a middle-aged woman buying flowers to commemorate her dead son’s birthday. (She looks affluent, and there’s a man in a suit waiting for her outside by a car.) We see the memory of her younger self, the battered (widowed) wife, backing away from Evil Prince as he walks toward her. As he draws close to her, the doorbell rings and a police officer announces his presence, saying he’s come about her son. Evil Prince informs her that her son has tripped at a reservoir and drowned, and threatens that since her husband and son have both had suspicious deaths, she would be suspected. He asks if she wants redemption. She does not open the door for the police officer. The memory ends, and we see the middle-aged woman leave flowers at an outdoor mausoleum. The camera focuses on one crypt with a photo of a young boy, and the grave is marked “Lee Ji Hun, 1987.10.28 ~ 1994.12.28. [Note: There was already a flower arrangement in the vase affixed to that crypt, which explains why his mother laid her flowers on the ground.]
We see a laborer at a salt farm who has extensive damage to the skin on his right shoulder. We recognize him as one of Evil Prince’s co-conspirators. He’s the one who’d told Evil Prince of the King’s location when Evil Prince was examining the Four Tiger Sword in the King’s bedroom, who walked in point position as the conspirators approached the King in the treasure room, whom the King recognized by saying “You…” Laborer picks up a newspaper to fan his injured shoulder, reads something, and throws down the newspaper with strong emotion. As he walks away to resume his work, we see the newspaper headline, “Former King’s Bastard Lee Lim Meets Tragic End.” The newspaper is dated 1995-5-25. (We had already seen that a body wearing a suit, Evil Prince’s signet ring, and with a cut hand washed up in KOC.) As the laborer works, the camera tips and the scenery first goes a bit counter clockwise, then a full circle clockwise accompanied by a sped up day to sunset to night to day to sunset, all to the sounds of a ticking clock, clanking, ticking clock again, then a click as the scenery settles. The laborer’s movements weren’t affected by the break in the space-time continuum. Evil Prince walks up behind him, umbrella in hand, and the handle of the umbrella is his half of the magic bamboo flute. The laborer has extensive scars (rather than sloughing skin) on his right shoulder, implying it is the same character, but it is a different actor. Laborer bows to Evil Prince, says he believed His Highness was still alive, had last seen him more than a decade ago, and is amazed Evil Prince doesn’t appear to have aged since then. Evil Prince says to laborer, “Let me show you a new world.” (This same man is seen in ep. 2 waiting for Evil Prince, holding the bamboo-flute-handled umbrella as Evil Prince paints the historic building.)
Lee Gon, in KOC, sits at his desk looking at the ID card for Lieutenant Jeong Tae Eul and says he’s now older than her. She was born 1990-05-27. The card was issued 2019.11.11. We see a digital date & time clock on LG’s desk showing the date 2019-09-10. (In the picture on the card LG has in KOC, TE has her hair pulled back. On the card we later see with her in ROK, her hair is down in the picture.)(During interrogation at the police station, LG tells TE he’s three years older than her [so, born 1987].)
Timeline summary:
-1987: Crown Prince Lee Gon born in KOC
-1987 Oct 28: Lee Ji Hun born in ROK (LG parallel)
-1990 May 27: Jeong Tae Eul born in ROK
-1994 Dec 08: Evil Prince arrives in Seoul ROK after assassinating King of KOC; Evil Prince meets ROK parallel of KOC king; Evil Prince kills ROK parallel of himself; Evil Prince and Ji Hun (ROK parallel of child LG) meet; battered wife identifies dead husband (ROK parallel of KOC king); police try to contact battered wife (widow) about her son; Evil Prince tells battered wife her son drowned
-1994 Dec 28: Date of death engraved on Lee Ji Hun’s crypt in ROK
-1995 May 25: KOC Newspaper headline about Evil Prince’s tragic end
-2004+: At KOC salt farm, Evil Prince meets laborer / regicide co-conspirator. Laborer hasn’t seen Evil Prince in more than a decade. Evil Prince says he wants to show co-conspirator a new world.
-2019 Sept 10: LG is sitting at his desk in KOC
-2019 Nov 11: In ROK Lieutenant Jeong Tae Eul is issued a police ID
@John L, I wasn’t sure JY would recognize the uncle who ‘died’ 14 years earlier when he was very little. I assumed that he was looking for traces of Luna and may not have clocked the uncle’s presence among the spectators. Hmmm. Now I’m curious.
What will happen when LG’s RoK DNA test comes back? It will match the dead boy’s if his DNA was taken and recorded.
@Fern, since JY is Captain of the Royal Guard and best friends with King Lee Gon, I’d think it would be professionally and personally imperative for him to learn as much as he could about the assassination of the previous king. The Kingdom of Corea is technologically advanced. There were cameras in the time before the assassination, and since Evil Prince was a member of the royal family, I think there were many photos taken and records kept of him. Think of how many historical figures who died before you were born that you recognize because of extant photos.
Captain JY did pause when he got to the photo of Evil Prince on fangirl’s camera. That’s when he asked her to email them to him. He recognized the importance of that particular photo, but probably didn’t want to call attention to it and alert her to his concern, since Evil Prince is supposed to be dead.
@John L, excellent point about JY not telling OCL about possibly seeing Evil Prince in a recently taken photo. JY is in charge of the king’s security; as a man who’s good at what he does, I suspect he wants to investigate thoroughly before sharing information. OCL is a trusted member of the court and close to those of highest rank, but her official role may not put her in a need-to-know classification when it comes to some security secrets.
@Welmaris, you must be right. Even if evil uncle looked many years younger than expected and was well out-of-context, JY should know, shouldn’t he?
Also, he seems close to OCL and they discussed the shaman’s charms, but being one who seems more fact-based, he may simply be indulging her beliefs. If he’s not already aware/open minded, he may have a big revelation in the near future, like Tae Eul. I’ll have to look again at his scenes. (force myself. ^^)
I think JY our one of those shaman envelope on LG’s wallet , the one TE found. 😄
Thanks for doing this, Welmaris.
Will make a separate post for this on the blog. Let me just write a post on Hospital Playlist before I forget my thoughts. 🙂
I still think that there is something fishy about the death of LG counterpart in 1994. It was December 8 when the Evil Uncle informed the mom that her son drowned. So why does the grave stone have December 28 as the death date?
Thank you, @John L for the timeline.
Aigoo, it is @Welmaris I should be thanking for the timeline. @John L had a good point too.
“Also, could there be a potential romance b/n JY & JY FanGirl? How did he know to find her at the coffee shop?”
CCTV.
John, this is Corea. They even have CCTVs in the bamboo forest. lol.
I believe in Washington DC, there are 350 security cameras. As you probably know, the advantages of video surveillance have to be balanced with the protection of civil liberties. Historically, Americans have always been suspicious of the government’s intrusion into their privacy and freedom; we won’t be seeing CCTVs in national parks anytime soon.
But yes to the romance between JY and JY’s fangirl. She’s also the Barista in the parallel world, you know. LG tried to get a free cup of coffee from her (after his experience in the library, he thought he could easily get free drinks from his fans) but he got rejected.
@Snowflower, it is suspicious that on the crypt the date of the child’s death is different than the date Evil Uncle told battered woman that her son had drowned. Some reasons could be:
1) The police were mistaken about the identity of the child about whom they wanted to talk to battered woman.
2) Time magically passed between Evil Prince’s arrival in ROK and the drowning of Ji Hun.
3) Someone doctored the records of Ji Hun’s death.
I’m more likely to believe the latter.
Considering the first possibility, there must have been some identification on the child that linked him to his mother. Evil Prince sounded certain that the drowned child was battered woman’s son. Evil Prince had looked at a photo of mom and son before he stepped on it.
Evil Prince wears the same bloody clothes during the deaths of the KOC king, Evil Prince’s parallel in ROK, the king’s parallel in ROK, and Ji Hun, which suggests the four killings happened in rapid succession. I wonder if the camera tip after Evil Prince snapped his parallel’s neck is meant to show time being affected: it must mean something, or else the director wouldn’t have bothered. I don’t think it means a time shift such as a speed-up of 20 days after Evil Prince arrived in ROK and met the king parallel. Evil Prince let himself into the apartment with a set of keys and tossed them aside before killing his own parallel. Those keys would have belonged to the ROK king parallel, and Evil Prince took possession of them when he killed that man. Ji Hun entered the apartment when dead Evil Prince parallel was still there, slumped in the wheelchair, so his fatal encounter with Evil Prince was on the same day his father and uncle were killed. After identifying the body of her dead husband, battered wife comes into the apartment and comments on the mess he’d left on the table from his last meal before death, further confirmation that all three deaths happened on the same day. So if there wasn’t a break in time, what is hinted at by the camera tipping after Evil Prince killed his parallel? I think it marks the beginning of Evil Prince not aging while in ROK.
I believe the discrepancy between Ji Hun’s actual date of death and what appears on his crypt is the result of Evil Prince manipulating records. He asks Ji Hun’s mom if she wants redemption instead of being accused of the deaths of her husband and son. His adjusting the date of her son’s death to a day other than the same one on which her husband died would be one thing to deflect suspicion from her.
There is another discrepancy observed in the timeline. Evil Prince kills his parallel in ROK on 08 Dec 1994, but news of the tragic end of Lee Lim (really the body of his parallel) isn’t announced in the KOC newspapers until May 25, 1995. I don’t believe this is because time moves differently in one world compared to the other (although individuals can travel differently in time within or between those worlds). I also don’t think the body was stashed somewhere between the time of killing and the time it was dumped in the water in KOC, as evidence of months of storage would show up during autopsy. I also don’t think the body was in the water for months, because the clothes and corpse were in too good condition. Based on the conversation between OCL and Prince Buyeong/Professor Lee Jong In, I think the news of the discovery of the body was suppressed until they could craft a story and timeline that would benefit the monarchy.
Dropping in to say Hi! I haven’t been watching any ongoing dramas closely since Vagabond. I really miss discussing VB despite its flaws. Hahahaha
Ok. Now I’m gonna read what I missed about Eternal Monarch. Brb.
I think Lee Gon and his horse has been travelling to a different dimension multiple times. Only this time thay landed in Seoul, and coincidently met Det. KGE, so he decides to stay there.
Why? Because he and his horse were not shocked at all when they saw the boulders suddenly appear in the bamboo forest. Neither of them flinched at the sound of thunder and the flashing green lights. It was as if he is prepared to jump through, again to wherever it may bring him.
This is just a theory though. I prefer this theory rather than thinking it was an acting mishap for both actor and horse. I mean…the normal reaction if a huge boulder suddenly materialized in front of you, would be to run away or at least scream. Hehehe
Thanks Everyone for such interesting insights. Thanks @welmaris for sharing all that research and minute observation. Everyone’s comments made re-watching the entire 2 episodes better. I admit to dozing off more than once and missing stuff.
I’m still on Cynical Island. Most because of the Qn: what’s the point of Lee Lim carrying out regicide in such a way that it was obvious he was the criminal. No quiet poisoning for him but an all out gun fight and sword stabbing. How could he have expected that anyone would allow him to replace his half-brother or nephew is beyond me, unless all the military were in his pay. Or did he expect to play the flute and have everyone kow-tow to him without demur?
Here are some aspects that popped into my mind as I re-watched.
Coincidences: This show (and many kdramas, but more obvious in this show) depends rather too much on coincidences to make the plot go fast. For eg., Lee Lim (Bad Uncle) conveniently runs off into the bamboo forest and gets the portal into ROK just as he needs to get away. Over in ROK, the first person who bumps into him is no other than his parallel half brother, who ends up furnishing him with all the info and resources he needs to continue his evil plans. Similarly LG just happens to see the white rabbit at the racetrack and goes into the bamboo forest. Once in ROK he just happens to ride past Jung Tae-eul’s car.
Re-doing: I’m thinking Lee Lim should have known fairly early that Lee Gon was still alive in KOC. He would certainly have known once he met his sidekick henchman. It would have behooved him to have tried to return to 1994 and re-do the regicide more successfully.
Time warp/travel: I’m leaning towards the time warp or time travel or that time is definitely affected by the time travellers because of the dates on TJE’s Police ID card and because show bothered to zoom out on the salt farm scene with Bad Uncle’s lackey and then to spin that farm horizon clockwise with a tick-tock sound going on. Immediately, when that stopped, Lee Lim steps into the frame.
When LG sees the rabbit again at the race track, the sounds that accompanied her was of the winding of gears… clock gears?
Also as mentioned, the entry of LG into ROK got ROK-time standing still for a moment, so that the bowl stopped in mid-air. However that did not affect Lee Lim who did not belong to the ROK universe.
White black rabbit: I caught sight of the rabbit in the Alice in Wonderland book and it is dressed in a dark suit with lighter coloured ears,… therefore, whoever it was in that rabbit jacket looked like the White Rabbit of the kid’s book, and led LG a merry chase.
Logo and Timeline: We are shown 2 times the 5-petal flower logo found on LG’s riding whip handle and drawn by Police friend Kang Shin Jae. However Kang had not met LG or seen his riding whip earlier. By the time he had met LG, latter was not carrying that whip around with him. Therefore where could he have seen that logo and why draw it into his notebook? It would have been something seen in the course of his investigations.
So in the scene where JTE was interrogating Lee Lim, that has not been placed for us properly in the timeline, has it? Based on his bloody clothes, it was soon after he committed the murder(s). But then why was there no follow-up to his interrogation?
Did he also have that 5-petal logo anywhere on him?
Lee Sang Do: Unless the theory of becoming younger is true, the police photo of Lee Sang Do, who is much younger looking than the elderly uncle, Lee Jong In, suggests that the dead LSD is not the parallel of Lee Jong In. However, his wife did not look as young as him. We need to get more info on this death to know if it is significant or not that his head wound and that of Kim Bok Man are the same.
Weapon: Would that stick that Lee Lim carries around have been heavy enough and of the right design to kill Lee Sang Do? His death, if it was done by Lee Lim or his henchman, only makes sense if Lee Sang Do really is/was Lee Jong In’s parallel.
More Universes: One prop that gets me thinking that there’s more than 1 parallel universe is the Police ID card(s) of JTE. One has her of her hair up and the other of her hair down and both are issued on the same date. So unless she loses her card and gets another issue with another photo, it is possible that another parallel LG (call him LG3) came back with another JTE’s (JTE3) card to save the current LG.
In the KOC, OCL could not find out what the card was and JTE did not exist there under that name. Therefore there might be a 3rd parallel universe.
I’ll answer you as best as I can on the blog.
I think if you liked “Goblin,” you’ll like this one. There were unfinished concepts, that she didn’t do so well in “Goblin,” that she seems to have rectified here.
“ Therefore there might be a 3rd parallel universe.”
NOOOO…I am already struggling with 2…and time travel. 😂. Good thoughts @GB. I may need to rewatch Ep1. I don’t think I can rewatch Ep2. I kept dozing off.
@packmule3 Ah if only someone like Gong Yoo of Goblin could be the lead here. But yes, I did like Goblin and the eternal Goblin waiting for his bride to reincarnate didn’t actually bother me too much.
Oh yes, let’s compare concepts execution! I hope I remember enough of Goblin, LOL.
Hi @nrllee, thanks! Yes, that dozing off thing… I really had to set aside time when I could be more awake to re-watch. Felt I didn’t do the show justice and didn’t want to rely only on the great comments and recaps. LOL about that 3rd universe. The way to keep it at the 2 universes that we see now, is if there’s a scene of JTE losing her card and having to have it remade. However, I’d think that the photos of all staff would have been in the police database, therefore there should not have been a need to take a new photo of her with her hair looking different. So a 3rd universe seemed a possibility! 😅
I think there are only two worlds. 🙂
The writer KES can’t write about three worlds (and more) AND do time warps at the same time, because she’ll totally bamboozle the viewers. As it is, she already went over the heads of viewers (whoosh!) with just the parallel world concept that she introduced in these two episodes.
She MUST know the limitations of her audience or she’s an idiot.
The reason the horse Maximus wasn’t spooked when he saw the stone pillars was because he was with his rider LG.
The horse and rider bond over time and the horse gets its cues from the rider. The horse can tell if his rider is anxious, timid, scared, confident, etc., and responds accordingly.
They’ve been together 25 years (at the most) and he’s a seventh rank official. lol.
Besides the horse did shy away. It stopped in its track, right? That meant it didn’t want to move forward. But LG petted it to calm it down. That gesture was enough. Of course, the director wouldn’t spend more than a second showing LG calming the horse because there were more important things to cover in an hour.
But LG wasn’t anxious, timid, and scared when he saw the portal. He was probably surprised to see it there but he was determined to cross the portal. After all, he had been looking for this parallel dimension for what? 25 years? Well…at least his adult life, he’d been looking for this. That’s why he studied Einstein. 🙂
So my theory remains:
1. Only 2 worlds
2. It’s LG’s first time crossing over in this lifetime.
3. Time loop. So he could have crossed this portal before in different lifetime(s) but he wouldn’t have remembered it.
4. REINCARNATION. It’s easier to understand all this if you think of this time loop as a reincarnation.
🙂
I know, right?
There’s something about Lee MinHo’s acting that rubs me off the wrong way. It’s like greasy acting.
But yes, look for the concept of reincarnation.
No, there are only two universes: Republic of Korea and Kingdom of Corea.
However, there are several lifetimes. Remember: The title says the King is ETERNAL. That’s fixed on time.
“ There’s something about Lee MinHo’s acting that rubs me off the wrong way. It’s like greasy acting.”
That’s what puts me off. I couldn’t focus on the story because of his acting. It was actually distracting. I don’t know if it’s because he’s stunning (although he’s not my type) but his face doesn’t seem to register much emotion at all. It just seems…dare I say it…botoxed? He just looks like a magazine cover. Static. So those long lingering visuals work well because he doesn’t need to emote…just look. It was exacerbated by the fact that he had to make attempts at comedic quips. Which just fell flat for me. The child actor was more gripping funnily enough. I need to just ignore him and focus on the plot.
My theory about LMH’s acting:
he’s not really comfortable acting like a heart throb. I think he finds those roles uncomfortable so it shows.
He’s not Leo diCaprio. Leo is good at the seduction scenes because he likes seducing the viewers and it shows.
This drama is like MoA 2.0 for me. But the confusion of MoA started when the game went crazy after ep 4. This one is confusing from ep 1. I’m not familiar with Alice in Wonderland so the Alice refrences just flew by me, I also thought Gon repeating ‘You’ll be beheaded’ was off-putting. Lol
I really hope the writer knows the boundaries of the world she’s creating. Otherwise it would be so confusing as we dig deeper into all the possible universes in this drama.
And I really hope they don’t pull an Emma on Luna. Emma in MoA had loads of potential but was very underutilized, most she did was sit in a chair, strumming her guitar. I would be so miffed if Luna is not an impactful character.
🙂
I knew people didn’t get the “You’ll be beheaded” reference because honestly speaking, how many of you and the younger generation read “Alice in Wonderland?”
If Lee Gon had said something from Harry Potter, I’m sure viewers would instantly get it.
But Alice in Wonderland???
I only understood because I’m older than the writer KES, and I’ve seen more of the world than she has. lol.
I can anticipate where she’s coming from.
@nrllee and @pkml3 LMH is one actor who always remains LMH not matter what character he plays. That could be why it’s distracting, and seeing him takes us out of the story. We never forget that we’re looking at him acting a part. However with most other actors even the 2nd leads and supporting actors, I forget who they are and connect with their characters.
As for Alice in Wonderland and Through the Looking Glass, LG is both Alice who fell down the rabbit hole/walked through the looking glass, and the easily infuriated Queen of Hearts. The queen is merely a 2 dimensional card of a playing deck. Her ordered beheadings seldom actually take place. So LG might be no more multi-dimensional than that queen, unfortunately, but I trust, especially with JTE on his side, he’ll be more effective!
@Katakwasabi, so far Luna is only the device to get LG moving out of his normal routine and routes. However there’s hope for her, since her doppelganger is the efficacious JTE and since Luna made a ghostly appearance in JTE’s car, we can hope that it means she’ll have something more to do. Her being in ROK and in KOC is the one inconsistent ‘existential point,’ because as far as we know, she does not have any part of the flute with her. We await more revelation of the show’s universe logic to figure Luna out. (More on Luna below)
Reincarnation: The show Goblin gave its characters only 4 lifetimes. However at the end of each life, a person could choose happy oblivion, go up the steps to some kind of ‘heaven’ and several decades later, restart life fresh from square 1 without any memory of the past life. Ghosts could also choose to linger, in which case they kept their memories and could interfere with the living if they wished. Those who committed suicide, ie the greatest evil to themselves, had to work as grim reapers to atone. Evil ghosts melted to nothing and did not get another life.
In this show, without actually dying, portal travellers might actually continually get more or less fresh starts, if they also travelled back in time and back in age. If we are considering an endless loop back (that’s so tiring for the looper!) without memory of the previous loop, then instead of 4 lives, the characters get unlimited lives.
Live and live again, but to what end? To prevent King 2 from dying and to keep the flute in one piece? Well that’s better than just Goblin’s hanging around for his grand romance. At least the flute is supposed to bring peace and other good things.
And this time, in the parallel-ness of the universes, the lovers don’t have to wait for each other to turn up and grow up, before they meet again.
The only thing is, there is both a Luna and a JTE in the same timeline. If JTE is supposed to end up in KOC to be queen, then Luna has to remain in ROK or to die. Alternatively, JTE may not agree to remain in KOC if she even ever gets there, and LG really should go and rule his kingdom. Also, the legend of the flute was told in KOC, and I associate its purpose as more with bringing balance to KOC than to ROK.
I’d like to find out if the flute could be magical enough to heal itself and become 1 piece again. Also, I’m wondering if there is only a portal to another universe because the flute was split into 2. Might that rift in space-time never have occurred if the flute had remained intact. If so, what are the repercussions of going back in time to enable the flute to keep it’s original state. If JTE had gone back to do this, she would perhaps have closed the portal and be trapped in KOC for the rest of her life, with the child LG!
How does LG know about Einstein? Just curious.
@Fern.
About Einstein, I mentioned him on this thread:
https://bitchesoverdramas.com/2020/04/17/the-king-eps-1-2-open-thread-launch-party/
This can be a big mistake in the script, due to poor documentation.
Einstein was not a theorist of quantum physics at all, and he was even famous for opposing quantum physics. So what LG says about him is totally wrong.
However, it could also be quite justified in this scenario, and in this case, it’s brilliant. It could be that the “Einstein” of LG’s world is not the father of relativistic physics, but the father of quantum physics. This would make him the opposite character (in terms of scientific theories) of the one in our real world. Since the drama seems to work this way, with different versions of the characters from one world to another, I think it’s not a script error. On the contrary, it’s pretty good, because anyone who knows just a little bit about physics knows that. The level of education seems to be quite high in South Korea, so I think young Koreans all know this.
About Lee MinHo’s acting performance.
I have no problem with that. Since I’ve put up with his cold and flat appearance in many other dramas, it doesn’t really offend me that he’s the same as usual. I was a little expecting it, no chance of being disappointed. 😀
The character has some nerve, when he asks the lead actress why he has to stay in this world. I think he guessed that she is seduced. She is rather hesitant because this guy seems crazy, but he still has a great class. And then she has some doubts, because of the white horse, the diamond buttons. She can’t admit to him that she finds him attractive, so she just tells him a lie, that she’s doing her duty as a police officer and nothing more. Ha ha!
When LG threatens to decapitate the guy he supposes to be his rival: it doesn’t make much sense. He realized he was in a parallel world where he’s not a king. So there’s no chance he’ll play that role any more. But that can be explained by the simple fact that he’s jealous and worried.
Long due appreciation comment. Thank you thank you a lot. I think your posts always give more strength to KES’s dramas cause to mundane eyes they look pretty much cliched and boring. That’S why whenever I went to dramabeans there were so many people just ridiculing Lee Min Ho and how stiff apparently his acting is. But like one of my drama friends from goblin days said, ‘Also, KES is a writer who loves to incorporate TONS of symbolism, so if you’re not a keen observer, one will find a filler scene unnecessary, but that scene might actually be a clue for the episodes.’
—–
That’s why he embraced her at their first meeting. He was astounded, grateful, relieved, gobsmacked, and astonished, altogether. You see, for 25 years, she’d been a figment of his imagination. He really had no way of knowing with CERTAINTY that she existed. He could only rely on his FAITH that she existed.
—
Also thank you for this explanation. After this I guess it makes the hug more sincere and not just done for dramatic purpose.
I am actually super curious about this alice in the wonderland angle. I am also waiting to see how KES is gonna incorporate it into the drama. Like if we remember goblin’s ending, it was already right there at the start, at the first episode, in the flashback she showed us the ending already. So maybe also here, we are supposed to look closely and maybe she is already leaving some hints for the ending. So you are definitely heading somewhat in the right direction by that time loop thingy. Also I did not understand at all this post :D, yet. #The King: Why is He Eternal?#– this one that is. 😀
I forgot to add, did you see that javabeans and girlfriday did this commentary thing on youtube from a new youtube channel on the first two episodes of the king? It is not to be taken seriously but I missed their cynical reviews from db days. Maybe you wanna take a look if you haven’t already. 🙂
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KAKPrvxRk2g&lc=z23qi1cpqoe4yhvtmacdp43a5lrytl52nzk2vglfzs1w03c010c
Part of the reason I also like this one is, you need the true critics or appreciators like you or them to understand the value of a good creation, whether that is art or literature or dramas. So I am glad that they decided to do this.
@Wenchanteur, “It could be that the “Einstein” of LG’s world is not the father of relativistic physics, but the father of quantum physics. This would make him the opposite character (in terms of scientific theories) of the one in our real world.” Thank you, that could be the solution to my query. Alternatively, it could be a blooper, but you have most cleverly found the solution to save the writer embarrassment.😉
@Nearsea
You have something there! I just re-watched the first 2 minutes of Episode 1 and realised that @scout had caught something I missed.
The police ID on the 2020 JTE had the photo of her with her hair tied back! I mentioned it in the comments here: https://bitchesoverdramas.com/2020/04/23/the-king-why-is-he-eternal/
This is soooo intriguing!
And BTW, thanks for the info on JB and GF on YouTube. I’ve gone and subscribed to their channel to hear all their fun fangirling and some show reviews as well!
@pkml3
Thanks for the write up on the dream. Not that I was not eager to get your view, actually, when I mentioned it several times, it was in response to what you said above and which I quote here:
Done and all good! 😁