There seems to be a confusion about the location of the Lee Gon’s “No Man’s Land” in relation to the portal.
Some think it’s inside the portal. My good friend, Growing Beautifully, thinks it’s the space between the entrance/exit portals. Some people think it’s somewhere in the bamboo grove.
I’m the only who insists that it’s near the racetrack…because it loops around. 🙂
I can only go with what the script tells me.
Here’s what the script says —
From Episode 4, Lee Gon and TaeEul jumped into the portal. There was blinding light, and their horses landed on the other side, in the bamboo grove. The horse leapt through portal. It didn’t canter, trot or gallop. There was no detour through “No Man’s Land.”
But stop!
I took screenshots. If you look at the screenshots, the land that they crossed looks like causeway in a sea.
And we’ve seen that before. Here. Except the pathway is much wider.
After they came out of the portal, she was in a state of shock. She looked dazed. She was speechless. The guards came and LG ordered them to back away.
LG: I command the royal guards to take ten steps back. You too, Yeong. She seems too shocked.
TE: (seeing Jo Yeong) Is he…
LG: Yes. In your world, he’s Eunsup. See? I was right, wasn’t I?
LG: I’m the king of the Kingdom of Corea. And my name, which you cannot say, is Lee Gon.
Perhaps it was good manners, perhaps it was protocol, but he finally introduced himself.
TE: (softly) So you do have a name. If you really have a name, I guess there’s no way to avoid a beheading now.
LG: (laughing) The way you’ve talked to me so far, it’s only right to behead you right away.
Jo Yeong approached them to end their cozy chitchat.
Jo: I’ll escort you to the palace.
LG: Let me take care of Maximus first. The trip has been too long for her age. Come to the racetracks.
With that, he and TE rode ahead.
Jo: (ordering the guards) Withdraw the guards from the racetracks right now. Two of you go to the control room and get the security footage. The rest follow me.
Lee Gon left the bamboo grove with the guards trailing behind him. They rode to the racetracks.
TaeEul kept looking back at the guards.
But in the next scene, it was just Lee Gon and her in the No Man’s Land (NMLand) or the “Land between 0 and 1.”
By this time, she had regained her sense… enough to hold a conversation. She was no longer in shock.
TE: What’s this place? Is it some kind of fourth dimension?
LG: I’m not sure yet. I guess we can say it’s something between 1 and 0 in my world and yours. This is a place that cannot be explained scientifically. (Then, he talks about the balloon.)
TE: If it’s not science, then what is it? Is it some kind of magic.
LG: It could be part of a legend. Time flows differently here as well. One minute here is about an hour outside. My watch stops here so I went back and forth for several days to check.
TE: How could you check when clocks stop here?
LG: I used Euler’s number.
TE: Ah.
LG: I don’t know how deep or how vast this place is. I’ll reach the edge of this place someday. And then I’ll tell you all about it. But for now, let’s go to my world.
Pay attention to the tone of conversation.
When she came through the portal, she was dazed. The portal was a shocker for her. She couldn’t say anything. She needed that horseback ride to the racetrack to clear her head, and to see her surroundings. Watching the guards ride behind them made her realize that she wasn’t dreaming this. She was in a land with real people.
And now that they were here in the NMLand, or that land between 1 and 0, she’d sufficiently calmed down to take in her new environment.
Lee Gon did not reenter the portal to get to this NMLand. He didn’t make a u-turn or a 180 degree turn as he would say, to enter the portal.
What are my major takeaway from this episode?
one, the portal functions like a telescope. What’s seen as far away (i.e., Republic of Korea)is brought closer.
two, the portal is like a wormhole connecting Earth to Mars without traversing outer space. No Man’s Land is the equivalent of outer space. And Lady Maximus is the spaceship. lol.
three, the portal shrinks the distance and time it takes to travel from Point A to Point B.
four, the portal cuts through the same space (or land mass) that Maximus would have taken days, weeks, months, etc. to traverse in the No Man’s Land.
five, the portal eliminates the time loss of No Man’s Land. When a traveler crosses through the portal, he isn’t going to lose time.
Remember, Lee Gon said:
one minute in NMLand = an hour outside
one day in NMLand = 2 months outside
lol. That’s why he’d been disappearing for days! He’s been investigating No Man’s Land on his own.
Now, this is my interpretation of the events in Episode 10.
Lee Gon was trying to find a way to reach TaeEul without having to use the portals in the Bamboo grove. Remember? He had the bamboo grove “sealed off” by his guards.
So when he met her in Korea,
he did NOT use the portal in the bamboo grove. Otherwise, his guards would have seen him, right? And his guards saw no one.
Instead, he went to the racetrack where his No Man’s Land is located. He entered his No Man’s Land and found ANOTHER route to reach Korea — or to be specific, the bamboo grove in Seoul, where TaeEul was.
If you want math for this (hey, Math for Bitches!!!) think of it as the “Brachistochrone curve.” Lee Gon is the red ball on the red curve.
Lee Gon couldn’t use his regular portal in the Bamboo Grove, so he went to the racetrack where his NMLand was located, and rode on Lady Maximus to get to TaeEul.
Sure, the hypotenuse was the shortest distance, and he covered more ground to get to his destination, but the brachistochrone curve (Oh! let’s just call it the “Bra curve” because we’re sassy this way) got him to Seoul at the quickest time. He rode hard but he still got there under 4 hours.
He didn’t expect to see TaeEul there; he was shocked to see her there. She had been waiting at the gate, just like in the poem.
I shall stand at the gate and wait.
From shadows growing light as dawn birds cry,
the day turns bright and still,
the morning comes sparkling,
and I look at each one who passes, wondering
Might it be you? Might it be?source: https://books.google.com
LG: Hey!
TE: (sob) What? You’re finally here. Did you just get here?
lol. I usually see this reunion scenes done on beaches but oh well, a bamboo grove was just as romantic.
LG: Have you been waiting here?
TE: Are you really here?
LG: Not yet. Not entirely. I missed you so much. Like crazy. So I was going to just hear your voice and leave.
Awww… He wasn’t back yet because he still had a task to do. But hey, he just dropped everything because he missed her.
TE: My voice?
LG: I was going to call you from that payphone over there.
And he showed her his coins. This meant that his escape was premeditated. He didn’t forget the essentials. Last time, when he made a hasty escape, he forgot to bring the coupon card. Now he remembered to bring the coins.
Now, do you understand why he was confused about the time when he got back? It was because he had just gone through NMLand’s again.
Instead of using the portal in the Bamboo grove, he was at the No Man’s Land by the RACETRACK. 🙂 He went through NMLand to go to TaeEul and back.
LG: What’s the date today? Am I back on time? Lunar New Year should be in a day or two.
Lady Noh: It’s the 23rd. You came just in time.
Let’s do a bit of math here. (Math for Bitches!! We can do this!)
In NMLand, 1 day is approximately 2 months in real world, he said.
Or, 1 day in NMLand is about 60 days in real world.
4 hours is 1/6th of a day. And 10 days is 1/6th of 60 day.
He looked at his watch and determined that he had 5 hours to spare.
But he also knew that in 10 days, it was going to the Lunar Year festivities. He had to prepare for that, too.
So…
He had to budget his time well. He figured he had enough time crossing NMLand plus just barely enough time to speak to TaeEul on the phone and hear her voice.
Remember:
4 hours in NMLand is 10 days in the real world.
Or 1 hour in NMLand is about 2.5 days in the real world.
2 hours in NMLand is 5 days in the real world.
3 hours in NMLand would total 7.5 days in the real world.
He rode Maximus 3 hours in NMLand (or 1.5 hour each way) to reach TaeEul and back. When he returned to the palace, he still had 2 days till the Lunar Year festivities on the 25th.
See that? Math is fun and easy when you’re doing it for Lee Minho…eerrrr… Lee Gon.
When Lady Noh said, “You came just in time,” I had to laugh. Lee Gon KNEW how hard he tried to get back in time. He must have been dead-tired and his horse Maximus deserved organic carrots and apples as a treat. That’s why he thanked God while closing his eyes.
LG: Thank God. I lost count.
Secretary: What on earth is happening? Did you have a secret rendezvous or something amazing like that?
LG: It’s more like illegal immigration but it was quite amazing.
Don’t you just like this guy? That was an understatement.
It was an “illegal immigration” because
a) it was a highly irregular way of crossing the border,
b) it was a hardship to cross the border,
c) it violated all scientific laws and mathematical theories to travel through NMLand, and
d) it advocated open borders. lol. Love knows no border.
I think like Growing Beautifully. When Lee Gon came back with Eun Seob, the last one was holding a red balloon. We saw these ballons only in the NMLand. So it would mean they didn’t use the portal in the bamboo forest but the other way and still went in the forest or they took the portal in the forest but went in the NMLand for some reason or the NMLand is between the 2 worlds. Knowing they were bringing back the traitor in KOC too, why Lee Gon would take the risk to show the NMLand to his ennemy if it’s a secret place?
This explanation is convincing.
I’ve been evaluating the idea that the fourth dimension was in the portal. So that the scene was a flashback. But really, it didn’t go well with the conversation.
I haven’t reviewed Episode 10 yet to get a better sense of these time differences.
There’s one thing that bothers me though:
When they are riding on the racetrack, they are chased by Jo Yeong and other guards.
And, uh… SUDDENLY!
No transition, straight to the 4th dimension scene.
Logically, the pursuers should have seen them disappear…
There’s gotta be a passageway, something visible, or they vanish.
This transition doesn’t make any sense. The first time I saw it, I went mad again!
It’s to the point where you actually think it’s a flashback. So it’s easy to locate the 4th in the portal. I couldn’t be convinced that it was in the portal, I couldn’t be convinced that it was on the racetrack. So I just left things the way they were. Location unknown. I didn’t know if the scene in the 4th dimension comes after the chase (probably not). This scene could be a flashforward, or anything else.
Great explanation! One thing about episode 10 that I can’t quite grasp:
*At the beginning, when TE is at the bamboo forest and hears Maximus in the distance, she turns around and sees a red balloon ascending. Now, LG couldn’t have brought it since he was really far back and the balloon a couple of feet away from TE.
Who put the balloon there? It’s probably irrelevant to the story but I’m intrigued.
Much as I enjoyed the discussion on the Bra-curve, I share with @GB that the NMLand is the space between the entrance/exit portals
The transition of LG & TE’s ride along the race tracks and the NMLand is to me a failure in editing. The only transition they provided when the 2 were galloping along the race tracks was for the camera to focus on the flute .
My clue that it is between the entrance/exit portals is when LG told TE while still in NMLand that: “..I will reach the edge of this place someday. And I’ll tell you all about it. But for today, let’s go to my world.“
After exiting Korea, they were already in his world (Corea) when they were in the bamboo forest and the race track. So NMLand came 1st before Corea, sandwiched between the worlds.
I forgot to mention: LG also said that the NMLand cannot be scientifically explained. But you have the Bra curve, so…
Wow, I thought that scene on the NMLand is just a flashback, since we’ve been seeing a lot of flashback, flash-forward scenes. Great Observation as always!
I love how you analyze the details. Having said that I hope that you are wrong here. I thought the NML was between the entrance and exit portals – that it WAS the portal if you like – hence the causeway (the causeway connects the two worlds). That seemed obvious to me. A certainty. Your post makes me feel uncomfortable because, if you are correct, this show is unwatchable. There are too many moving parts. So I hope you are wrong (respectfully).
In my corner is the fact that the writer has never shown herself capable of such complexity imo. Having watched all her other dramas I don’t think she has your depth of imagination. You clearly know your stuff when it comes to storytelling and character development etc (and time loops) but I don’t expect the writer of “the heirs” to produce a script of the caliber your analysis indicates. She’s not that
Two different things, mychoiyoung.
LG said that NMLand cannot be scientifically explained.
But that does not mean that LG loses his scientific and mathematical mind while inside the NMLand. That’s why he placed those red balloons in there, right? He was still thinking scientifically and mathematically.
The phenomenon may still be undefined.
But the human mind’s natural proclivity is to define the most mysterious and baffling encounters in the universe. That’s why science and math are never-ending.
I overheard a nephew talk about his work at CERN, that Swiss lab with the Large Hadron Collider. He said that the things we see constitute only 5% of all matter. Then there’s 30% dark matter which is studied by cosmologists and physicists like my nephew. But then over 60% is dark energy.
I’m no dumb blonde but I sure felt like one when he talked of particle physics. Classical, newtonian physics is my limit. (By then, during my time, landing on the moon was already a major accomplishment.) I get why people would prefer to be a “flat-earther.” It’s easy for the brain to shut down and reject what’s too complex to understand. But I found respect for the scientists and mathematicians who do this sort of theoretical research.
Although I’m sure no man land’s is in between portals I like how you took the things that could make a case that it wasn’t there and found a reasonable explanation that NMLand is not there but on the racetrack.
TE does look too dazed when she exits in Corea, a look that fits more if she exits without a time in between portals and that conversation that would have gotten her a chance to adjust to seeing unbelievable things. That’s the only thing that doesn’t fit so well with NMLand in between portals.
The rest can be explained.
Like the portal being guarded 24/7 before new years. That means nothing to the king who could have dismissed his guards for a while. That is possible even though he would have had to do it for the whole 10 days he was inside since he wasn’t sure exactly what hour/minute he would exit.
But I can’t help having this feeling that you’re mostly playing with an alternative explanation for that space for, well, fun. It helps also in pointing out what things were not properly dealt with in the version we are shown, things that can be used as arguments for alternative explanations of where that space could be.
And to make that case you maybe even leave out on purpose whatever bits of the show put that land in between portals, like ES exiting with the ballon. Or LG and TE’s conversation first in that land:
– LG describing it as in between 0 and 1, which would fit it being in between their worlds
– “..I will reach the edge of this place someday. And I’ll tell you all about it. But for today, let’s go to my world.“ = they haven’t yet exited to Corea.
Or the simple fact that it makes sense for that land to be in between portals and there’s zero reasons for it to be somewhere randomly somewhere else (as much of the nonsense of it being randomly on the racetrack would fit with Alice in Wonderland nonsense style)
What I find interesting is how different people see the same sequence of scenes and have a different set of observations and beliefs. Back in the days of University, I used to believe in the existence of absolute truth. And an absolute reality with respect to science. Science is fundamentally beliefs proven by observations of our reality. But at the end, our beliefs evolve, our realities change (by evolution of new methods of observations, new developments, technology such as confocal microscopy or the Hubble) etc. Science in itself is a dynamic belief system. As I learnt in the years afterwards, like time and space, truth is also relative 🙂
– this is what I should have wrote in the comment before:
*as much as the nonsense of it being randomly on the racetrack would fit with Alice […]
What I’m trying to say is I would accept that land to not be in between portals only if the show was trying to present things in the nonsense style used in the Alice books.
But so far there’s no hint that the show cares about that part of Alice.
It’s hard to write nonsense, at least hard to write it in the charming way Lewis Carroll did.
But what nonsense do we have in TK:EM? Is there any?
I can think of only one thing and even this is not really enough to make a case that the drama’s writer wanted to put nonsense in the show on purpose:
To me there is nonsense in the fact that TE is presented to us as a flat earther = irrational when all she does is all rational. It is LG who uses math in a dubious way to present some fantasy theory that is not even theoretically possible (traveling BACKWARDS in time is not theoretically possible, so he should not have in the past an ID issued in the future)
It’s LG who’s unreasonable expecting TE to believe something science doesn’t even support. With no proof. And she who is reasonable to not believe some nutcase stranger until she sees proof (the ID just as LG said, issued on the day he said, and then seeing Corea)
Which brings me to, time slows in the NMLand… As it should if it’s a stretched time space fabric. No ? Wormhole = two connected blackholes = blackhole stretches the time space fabric slowing the relative time near the event horizon. (I’m not a physicist. I’m from its liberal arts cousin Biology.) If LG gets trapped in there, it’ll be very hard to rescue him. He can also approch his past self and exist in the same timeline as his child self much like the shooter in the Grandfather Paradox. And inconsistencies emerge by his changing the past continuously. He’ll get really badly stuck.
No, Oli. You’re getting wrong. The No Man’s Land is far bigger than the portals. The portals is only a small part of the No Man’s Land, not the other way around.
Imagine a three-dimensional Cartesian coordinate system. Or if you want….the inside of a shoe box.
The whole space inside the box is No Man’s land.
Now draw an inch-long jagged line on two opposite sides of the box and cut those two lines open. Those two inch-long lines are the portals. They’re just a fissure or a tear or crack on the boxes.
When you measure those lines/cracks/cut against the shoe box, those portals are nothing. The shoe box is way bigger.
Now, imagine threading a string through one portal/crack/cut and bring the thread out the other. The string now connects those two portals/cuts to connect them. and that string is the “pathway” between the portals.
The string goes through the empty space of the shoebox.
However, if you’re mathematical person like LG, you’d see that the portals could be moved. You can punch/cut another inch on a different part of the box, and thread another string to exit the same cut/portal on the other side.
That’s what LG is doing.
He’s cutting through NoMan’s Land in order to get to TaeEul.
1. Of course, he hasn’t discovered the whole expanse of NoManLand. Did I say that he did? No, I didn’t, right? I wouldn’t say something as stupid that.
I only said that he found a “Bra-curve” or another pathway that could reach TaeEul’s side without using the original path opened by the portals in the bamboo grove.
As I said the portals are only two cuts on the box (well add Lee Lim’s cuts too so… we could have more). But the box is bigger than the portal.
2. And Nope! He didn’t tell the guards to vacate the Bamboo grove on January 15 or any day after that. He was NOT seen at the bamboo grove because he didn’t GO to the bamboo grove. Let that fact sink in. It’s hard to believe because nobody else considered that possibility.
Why would he do that? He didn’t know when he would be back and he wanted the guards to be vigilant should LL pass that way.
3. No Man’s Land IS indeed the place between 0 and 1. It’s the inside of the shoe box. You can say that zero is Korea and 1 is Corea (or vice versa) but the land in between is No Man’s Land. The portals are entrances or doorways. They aren’t the space themselves.
4. Yes, the edge of No Man’s Land is impossible to find. Just because he reached TaeEul on the other side does NOT mean he investigated the whole place.
That’s faulty correlation, oli.
Just like when you thread a string from one side to the box to the other side does NOT mean you’ve stuffed the shoe box with string, LG’s travel through No Man’s Land is just a matter of going from Point A to Point B. He hasn’t explored the whole shoebox/NoMan’s Land yet.
Not a flat earther myself, but I thought that the NML scene was simply a flashback and Tae-Eul was shocked by the entire process, finally seeing the guards waiting for LG, esp. one who looked like Eun-Sup. I’m willing to be wrong, however. 😊
“See that? Math is fun and easy when you’re doing it for Lee Minho…eerrrr… Lee Gon.” That’s two days running, Ms. @packmule3. Have you found a portal to Shallow Island?
I suppose that in this No Man Land, there is a circuitous path that is not used to travel in dimensions, but in time.
Dismissing the guards is tricky. Getting them to guard the portal in a way he could enter and exit trickier.
But even so, the drama told us enough about LG and TE entering that land through the portals in Korea and Corea and not some other place. Even if other places obviously exist. As LR uses different portals.
Of course the space between portals is bigger than the portals. Like the shoe you imagined.
Or like that place in Alice after she falls down the rabbit hole with many many doors.
Aha, this fits well to my earlier thought that he seemed surprise when he saw the portal in the bamboo place like it was his first time using it which contradicts with his statement as if he did it many times already.
Thank you @packmule3. 😊 I am still happily lounging at the cynical island. Reading your explanations and the others’ take on TKEM is sufficient for me. 👍👍
@pkml3 I read and I ponder and I wait. 🙂 🤔 😉
Giventhe time exchanges when LG is in No Mans Land, shouldn’t he be older than he actually looks-which makes me think that his evil uncle traitor/killer has also spentblots of time thereas he hasn’t aged. I wonder if LG and Killer will have their confrontation there and alsonwonder why they have not met there after all those years. And LG asked the PM about hef riding lessons, which I assume take place at the racetrack near NML. And is NML a place where people are disappeared (maybe too much of a stretch). Long story short, I’m with you on location of NML. Am also worried about Lady Maximus-how old can she possibly be given her trips to NML,even though wd saw her as a filly when LG was a boy.
LG will give TE what she wants, cooking for her in his uniform. Yeah, why not! 😍
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Do you not think NML is the rabbit hole of Alice in wonderland but the writer changed it to a wormhole (as in Einstein’s theory of relativity wormhole). That’s how I see it. Portal, wormhole, rabbit hole. It’s the pathway from 0-1 or koc to rok. Obvs there’s many entrances (eg Luna disappearing into one in ep 1). And many exits – LL emerged in city – not in bamboo forest. Wormholes (in theory) can connect parallel universes and cause users to time travel (gravitational differences at ends cause space time differences aka time travel). So imo it’s a wormhole with many entrances and exits. Or several wormholes. But I imagine it’s only one. If the story has any basis in science then the only way from ROK to KOC is through the wormhole.
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I hope that you enjoy the group watch of HP!
Goooood morning to you @Fern! 🌷🌷🌷 Thank you, I’ll watch tomorrow at noon with the ladies. I find I cannot sleep late these days. 🙂
Love the explanation of that scene – Lee Gon seeing Tae-eul in the bamboo forest – because it seemed out of place at first. The editing seemed a bit off (which is one of my issues with this drama).
@pkml3 I’m trying to work out if there’s a plothole.
In the zany universes of opposites and mirror images, that there are 2 different ways to cross the worlds and they have different effects. There’s the short cut with half the flute where LL and LG pass through a portal, and get across within a split second. And there’s the long route of traveling for hours across No Man’s Land.
So in the play on time, there is time lost for the traveler (say LG) who goes through No Man’s Land, where 1 hour is 2.5 days in normal space and when he does not age, but conversely there is time gained for him and lost for the rest of the worlds, when time freezes, ie when his opposite (LL) goes through the portal.
I’m assuming (because it’s not shown), that entering and exiting the No Man’s Land does not cause a time freeze, whereas entering and exiting the portal (the shortcut) does.
If the very many times LG and presumably LL go through No Man’s Land is unknown (as seen from the many red balloons) and is NOT manifested in time freezes, this means that LL could be traveling back and forth between worlds and LG wouldn’t know if he is in KOC or ROK. This could be a mighty big plothole, if LG thinks he knows where LL is, just because time froze.
Hi @pkml3, I’ve also been at work more ‘urgently’, ie things needed to get done even on my usual day off. I wanted to do the Character Info from Ep 13, but can’t yet. I believe Ep 14 is about as far as any of us can go and by that time, may not be needed.
No the theory wasn’t confirmed in Ep 13… I was just ruminating. I wanted to think through a bit more of your or our theory and see what we know. I wish by now, that show would have shown us the do and don’ts or the limits of this fantastical space. I felt it was ironic that on the one hand outside time was lost when LG was in NMLand and yet, in another sense, if he’s like LL, he had gained time for himself because he’d have aged more slowly.
And again, each time the portal was used by LL, LG would have to wait for time to unfreeze. It seems such a waste of time!!
What Ep 13 did show us, however, was that TE, LG and ES walked through NMLand on the way back to ROK. We did not see how they got into it. There was no portal. No time freeze happened. ES was pulling along his trolley bag, so they were not in any vehicle and Max was not there. I am now wondering how long it took them to walk as slowly as they did, with time for TE to plant more seeds. Much more than just 8 days compared to LG’s hard riding previously!!!
Which begs my question, why can’t they go by car or motorbike or bicycle. They can bring in balloons and seeds and their own stuff, but they cannot bring in a mechanical device to help them traverse that space more quickly. LG obviously must have tried, because the first time with TE, he told her that where they were going they’d have to ride Max.
So much could have happened in ROK and KOC in the long meantime that they were in NMLand. I’m now thinking this is also another hole that show may have got itself into.
LL has not been shown to have traversed the NMLand. He has however not aged, which makes me think he spends hours in there on his numerous trips (yes I read that comment on his traveling).
Reversed and Similar Images
Enjoy catching up with Ep 13! It’s no accident that Jang Mi and TE both have a good sense of smell, or that scent matters to them. I was toying with the similarities and the differences between characters and their doppelgangers, but it didn’t seem to be pointing me anywhere. Some are living more similar and closer parallel lives, while others are living contrasting lives from each other. I wanted to know if there was a rule that show followed as in when we first theorised that doppelgangers were their mirror images, and their lives might be reversed.
Another commenter theorised that when images are reversed, the part at the far ends will be further apart from each other and so will be more different (as in if “1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8” were to be reversed in an image, then 1 and 8 being far apart if swapped, would have to move further. This would create higher contrast in characters. Where one is good the other is cruel for eg. like Lee Ho and his doppelganger), but the parts towards the middle are nearer to each other, (4 and 5 are closer so when swapped, the contrast is less, so Na Ri and Seung Ah are pretty similar in disposition) therefore the difference is less. I thought that was not a bad idea.
Catch ya later!