16 Comments On “River Where the Moon Rises: Eps 15 & 16 Open Thread”
nrllee
Sigh… the little joyful moments for our OTP are just…too short. And always against the backdrop of some evil or threat looming. The bath scene where GJ was with bloodied OD who was bearing the mental scars of all that killing? Somehow gave me Braveheart dejavu. It was tender but so downright sad. 😢. NIW is OD. Kudos to him. I am wondering how much more sadness I can take? There’s another 4 eps?
agdr03
I just finished watching and yes, NIW is the best Ondal, period. I felt sad and exhausted for him with all the killings that he had to do but admire him as well because he’s doing it for Ga Jin. He really is giving his all.
I just hope this couple will have the chance to be truly happy and of course I want babies but I don’t know. I especially liked the market scene. They looked happy. 😊
You made me search for that bath scene,
Nrllee! Didn’t know it was at the very end.
NIW did well in that scene. I was afraid that the writer and director would make that scene sexualized just like in that 🤮 “Mr Queen.”
Thank goodness, the bath scene was a healing one. He wasn’t a killer. He didn’t like killing. He didn’t like war. Like his father, he hated the smell of blood on him. And the taste of water was no longer sweet.
But if she told him to go fight, he would. If she told him to stand up, he would.
I thought his words were a foreshadowing of the folklore’s ending for On Dal. Didn’t his dead body resist leaving? It became too heavy to be carried away for burial until Gajin came and gave him permission to leave. She whispered to his corpse that it was okay, he could leave her now.
Lol. I’ll watch the two episodes later. Today is “Sisyphus” and “Hello, Me”. Both dramas are on their final week.
agdr03
GJ wanted OD and her to hang out so they went to the market place. They just walked and looked at the things there. Maybe it’s in episode 14 as 15 was all about the uprising.
nrllee
Yes they stole away, dressed like peasants and just did ordinary things in the market place. Like a little date- just the 2 of them. But it was all too short. 😢 It was in Ep15.
And their moment in the well that OD mentioned. Do you know which episode I can find that?
I knew Na In Woo would make a great On Dal.
He can show vulnerability that I couldn’t sense in that other actor, Jisoo. It’s the eyes. He can make his eyes look defenseless. Jisoo simply had this “knowing” look about him, and he came off smug. I remember in an earlier episode when he discovered that Gajin was the Princess and his father (and tribesmen) died for the Queen, he said something like she couldn’t die bec she owed them her life.
His delivery was all wrong. 😒
I get what he was saying to her. But he sounded punitive, demanding, … and dare I say it? Bullying.
He meant to say that her life was precious as it was because she was of royal blood. But it was made even “more” precious because the blood of so many people was shed for her royal blood. That’s why she just couldn’t think of killing herself so easily.
See that?
There should have been tenderness and awe there. But Jisoo failed. He just came off as angry.
nrllee
I also liked how OD asked PG point blank whether she coveted the throne. Like what she said when they were children. I think he senses that she’s changed? She denied it but I am not so sure? Her ambition may well lead to his death. He is willing to walk through the valley of death for her regardless? Sigh. I feel so sad for him.
So…is he a fool because he knows he’s being used but he’s willing to be used? 🤨
What makes a fool a fool?
I get that people can be a fool in love. But is OD a fool because he knowingly closes his eyes to the truth? Or because he’s allowing himself to be used? Or because he has an oversimplified view of life: I love you and I’ll do anything for you.
agdr03
Ah so it was in episode 15. Thanks @nrllee.
Yeah, I wished it was longer too.
So it’s probably not a happy ending for this drama. I’ll be ok with that because I’ve seen and felt GJ and ON’s love story.
According to legend, he died in a battle at Mt. Achasan. I checked the map and it’s located west of Seoul. There’s a train station at Achasan.
An arrow killed him.
agdr03
Oh I felt it too @nrllee, that subtle change in GJ? He even said that she started keeping things from him and it’s true.
OD really became her sword. I don’t think he’s a fool because he said he would do anything for her and he said too that he is protecting her and the royal family.
agdr03
Thank you.
Just give me some more happy moments for this couple, show and I’ll be ok before that ending.
nrllee
Yes @packmule3. He’s allowing himself to be used. He is willingly doing it for her sake. He calls himself “her sword” because he doesn’t want her to go back to her assassin ways. But killing isn’t the only thing that will poison a person’s soul? Power is just as bad. Insidious and it it creeps up on you? How much power is too much? When will it ever end? If ever? You were right to say that her boast as a child (wanting to be king) had a sense of foreboding in it. GJ and the Palace isn’t a great mix.
Yes. Pyeonggang’s “I want to be King!” didn’t sit well with me. Normally, I should be applauding anything that signals feminine empowerment.
“Go, woman! Go, me!”
But naked ambition doesn’t look pretty regardless of the gender or the age of the person who demonstrates it. Back then, she didn’t think of the role of king/queen as “service” to others, but as her birthright. She was the daughter of the king, thus she had legitimate claim to the throne and could order people around.
nrllee
RIP Prince Philip. OD of the modern era. 😢.
Obama also wrote that Philip “showed the world what it meant to be a supportive husband to a powerful woman… Through his extraordinary example, he proved that true partnership has room for both ambition and selflessness — all in service of something greater.”
Sigh… the little joyful moments for our OTP are just…too short. And always against the backdrop of some evil or threat looming. The bath scene where GJ was with bloodied OD who was bearing the mental scars of all that killing? Somehow gave me Braveheart dejavu. It was tender but so downright sad. 😢. NIW is OD. Kudos to him. I am wondering how much more sadness I can take? There’s another 4 eps?
I just finished watching and yes, NIW is the best Ondal, period. I felt sad and exhausted for him with all the killings that he had to do but admire him as well because he’s doing it for Ga Jin. He really is giving his all.
I just hope this couple will have the chance to be truly happy and of course I want babies but I don’t know. I especially liked the market scene. They looked happy. 😊
Braveheart! OD does have a brave heart.
You made me search for that bath scene,
Nrllee! Didn’t know it was at the very end.
NIW did well in that scene. I was afraid that the writer and director would make that scene sexualized just like in that 🤮 “Mr Queen.”
Thank goodness, the bath scene was a healing one. He wasn’t a killer. He didn’t like killing. He didn’t like war. Like his father, he hated the smell of blood on him. And the taste of water was no longer sweet.
But if she told him to go fight, he would. If she told him to stand up, he would.
I thought his words were a foreshadowing of the folklore’s ending for On Dal. Didn’t his dead body resist leaving? It became too heavy to be carried away for burial until Gajin came and gave him permission to leave. She whispered to his corpse that it was okay, he could leave her now.
Or something like that.
I’ll put the link here when I find my source.
What market scene?
Lol. I’ll watch the two episodes later. Today is “Sisyphus” and “Hello, Me”. Both dramas are on their final week.
GJ wanted OD and her to hang out so they went to the market place. They just walked and looked at the things there. Maybe it’s in episode 14 as 15 was all about the uprising.
Yes they stole away, dressed like peasants and just did ordinary things in the market place. Like a little date- just the 2 of them. But it was all too short. 😢 It was in Ep15.
Thanks. I’ll watch out for it then.
And their moment in the well that OD mentioned. Do you know which episode I can find that?
I knew Na In Woo would make a great On Dal.
He can show vulnerability that I couldn’t sense in that other actor, Jisoo. It’s the eyes. He can make his eyes look defenseless. Jisoo simply had this “knowing” look about him, and he came off smug. I remember in an earlier episode when he discovered that Gajin was the Princess and his father (and tribesmen) died for the Queen, he said something like she couldn’t die bec she owed them her life.
His delivery was all wrong. 😒
I get what he was saying to her. But he sounded punitive, demanding, … and dare I say it? Bullying.
He meant to say that her life was precious as it was because she was of royal blood. But it was made even “more” precious because the blood of so many people was shed for her royal blood. That’s why she just couldn’t think of killing herself so easily.
See that?
There should have been tenderness and awe there. But Jisoo failed. He just came off as angry.
I also liked how OD asked PG point blank whether she coveted the throne. Like what she said when they were children. I think he senses that she’s changed? She denied it but I am not so sure? Her ambition may well lead to his death. He is willing to walk through the valley of death for her regardless? Sigh. I feel so sad for him.
So…is he a fool because he knows he’s being used but he’s willing to be used? 🤨
What makes a fool a fool?
I get that people can be a fool in love. But is OD a fool because he knowingly closes his eyes to the truth? Or because he’s allowing himself to be used? Or because he has an oversimplified view of life: I love you and I’ll do anything for you.
Ah so it was in episode 15. Thanks @nrllee.
Yeah, I wished it was longer too.
So it’s probably not a happy ending for this drama. I’ll be ok with that because I’ve seen and felt GJ and ON’s love story.
According to legend, he died in a battle at Mt. Achasan. I checked the map and it’s located west of Seoul. There’s a train station at Achasan.
An arrow killed him.
Oh I felt it too @nrllee, that subtle change in GJ? He even said that she started keeping things from him and it’s true.
OD really became her sword. I don’t think he’s a fool because he said he would do anything for her and he said too that he is protecting her and the royal family.
Thank you.
Just give me some more happy moments for this couple, show and I’ll be ok before that ending.
Yes @packmule3. He’s allowing himself to be used. He is willingly doing it for her sake. He calls himself “her sword” because he doesn’t want her to go back to her assassin ways. But killing isn’t the only thing that will poison a person’s soul? Power is just as bad. Insidious and it it creeps up on you? How much power is too much? When will it ever end? If ever? You were right to say that her boast as a child (wanting to be king) had a sense of foreboding in it. GJ and the Palace isn’t a great mix.
Yes. Pyeonggang’s “I want to be King!” didn’t sit well with me. Normally, I should be applauding anything that signals feminine empowerment.
“Go, woman! Go, me!”
But naked ambition doesn’t look pretty regardless of the gender or the age of the person who demonstrates it. Back then, she didn’t think of the role of king/queen as “service” to others, but as her birthright. She was the daughter of the king, thus she had legitimate claim to the throne and could order people around.
RIP Prince Philip. OD of the modern era. 😢.
Obama also wrote that Philip “showed the world what it meant to be a supportive husband to a powerful woman… Through his extraordinary example, he proved that true partnership has room for both ambition and selflessness — all in service of something greater.”