The thread is now open for our Healer rewatch of Episode 2.
Come join @Growing_Beautifully, @Cleopatra, @Janey, @WEnchanteur, @Sayaris, @Fern, @OldAmericanLady, @nrllee, @Viva, and @Juriel.
13:00 UTC
09:00am EST
06:00am PST
09:00pm Singapore, Philippines
08:00pm Indonesia
03:00pm Greece
12:00am Sydney (Sunday)
08:30pm India
The schedule according to @Growing_Beautifully.
1) Episode 1: For the intro to the characters and their dreams
2) Episode 2: For some cool Healer action
3) Episode 5: For the dynamics of relationships and a getaway
4) Episode 8: For the elevator rescue and you know what happens after that
5) Episode 9: For the telephone convo and makeover
6) Episode 10: For the rooftop convo
7) Episode 11: For the movie date
8) Episode 14: For Healer’s turn to be ‘rescued’ in his lair
9) Episode 20: For the finale
Gifs from gongmyung’s tumblr
Have fun!
Thanks @PM3 for the transformation gifs!!! Ahjumma with her hair tamed.
Healer Episode 2 here we go…tomorrow.
Thanks @pkml3! There was one more look of Ahjumma’s that I really liked. It was when she ‘looked normal’ and went to Coffee Bay to speak to Young Shin. She looked great there! But my fave scene with Ahjumma is when Healer met her for the first time, while she was looking like the bag lady. His horror at her appearance was the best!
I’m looking forward to tomorrow’s rewatch party with you gals and guys!!
Thanks, @packmule3. Speaking of evil cackle – since watching Healer, I can’t un-see that screen anime the Ahjumma sends to Healer.
@Fern, That iconic electronic cartoon signature of Ahjumma’s only amused me at first and I never looked at it properly. But when I read the 1st episode script of the show, I found out that the animation was supposed to have been of Ahjumma’s son!!! So I went to look at it again. I believe that the drawing is of Ahjumma and not of her son, however she’s drawn to be androgynous and possibly boyish. How poignant it is that she may have been using the image of her son, in her announcement of her phone call/presence (with her cackle).
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1h6bWD6awf4pbMfR9MY4jYvyXbqeQe1XG/view?usp=sharing
We hear a similar gleeful laughter/snigger when the original Healer answers his call too. It seems to be the signature greeting of the original Healer team.
@GB – thanks for the close up of the Ahjumma’s caricature. @Fern, I’ve always assumed it was a witch because of the cackle and the unruly hair and did not look closely. It looks like a guy. Hah! The things discovered when viewed with rewatch eyes 👀…
Chat with you later!!!
Waiting for the 100m hurdles to finish before I can join.
Are you at track meet, @Fern? Good luck to your daughters! 🍀
Hi @pkml3 and @Fern, I’m around! @Fern all best to your active girl!
Hello Friends, how are you?. My streaming download seems to be in good shape ^_^U . @GB, I didn’t see Healer originally when it was aired nor I completed my watch (so I will do it with all of you 😉 )… but I distictly remember being more interested in Ahjumma and not so much for the Female Lead.
That’s interesting @FGB…. I tend to consider myself more Ahjumma than anyone else, in any show, although I’m not at all tech savvy like she is!
Ahjumma had personality and was bossy but always had the best intentions. She was also exceptionally capable and dependable.
Female lead was kind of a big teddy bear that was hardworking but was bumbling. It might sound funny but (if memory serves well) the way the FL was cute invited more a child protection feeling than the almost inescapable,devastating of the Mermaid (as in the typology by Robert Greene in “The Art of Seduction”). It is strange because I found the same actress utterly adorable in “City Hunter”.
Hello! How are you all?
Oh goody!! Hi @Cleo! How’s your Saturday been?
@FGB, yes, PMY gives off a different feel in different shows. She’s not at all seductive in this show, just a child who managed to get through a great deal of pain, and wants to follow her dream to be a great reporter.
Hello here!
@GB, this confirms that it is indeed the original script!
Well, we already suspected it with the postponement of the 1984 scenes at the end of the episode.
I’m trying to separate the screenplay I found, between the ones that are :
– Original script (Yes !) : Healer, W, City Hunter, Oh My Ghost, King of Baking.
– Transcript (no interest) : Descendants of the Sun, Queen Seon Deok.
– Not sure : School 2015, The Heirs.
– Incomplete : I hear your voice, Moon Embracing the sun.
– Distorted presentation (addition of white lines) : Spring waltz, Moon Embracing the sun.
– Not yet tested: King 2 hearts, Protect the boss, and a dozen others.
Unfortunately, it’s very limited and I couldn’t find many. And mainly old dramas. There are many dramas I would like to find, unfortunately…
Hey @GB,
I am okay. We have a family gathering. So there is movement at the moment!
Are you okay?
Hi @WE… have you gotten a clear idea of the 5 friends in the photo yet? Here’s the photo with a annotations in case you need it.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Ppyk5k83publolxgYHhIHff4CDMYqHAi/view?usp=sharing
I’m here from sunny, hot Seattle. I’m going to start, because I always run behind on these rewatches.
I’m great! Feeling a bit warm here and wondering if I can do without the a/c.
Ooh! it’s time!!! Let’s go!!!
Hello @Welmaris,
do we start?
Hey hey, thanks ! I download the photo. 😉
HEEEEEEEEYYYY , LETS GOOOOOOOOO!!
We start with such a long voiceover by YS but it’s so informative and the changing scenes with her growing up makes it such good storytelling. We get to see that she’s go street smarts and is cheeky. A spirited child who was traumatised and became breathless when scared.
I like that advice: take the thing you like second best and make it your job; leave the thing you like best as your hobby. I wish I’d heard that before choosing my major in college. I loved to read, so decided to major in British/American Literature. Four years of being forced to read and write on a stressful load of books killed my love of reading for several years after I graduated.
I like that Ajhussi here! 🙂
That coffee art is amazing!
Yes, to Healer holding our girl!
Kalimera dear @Cleo and it is a pleasure to read you, @WEnchanteur, lets GO! =D
Love this very different meet cute with Healer. He’s getting as good as he gives. She’s aware that he’s suspicious and is out to catch him. He often pretends in order to get access to places and here’s a girl who pretends to be asleep and unaware, to trick him LOL. Totally foiled his plans to get her hair.
Kalispera @FGB!
How are you?
@GB, this writer have a good pace, good sens of storytelling, Nervous scenes cut/split, always visuals, smart use of voice-over with live action during it. 🙂
AKA : don’t make the characters telling things about other people, sitting in a restaurant during all episode. HA AH AH !!!
@GB,
He found his match with Young Shin!
This scene is amazing! He calculates everything for that impact!
I like Healer’s resourcefulness … he just makes use of whatever is there and creates a situation where he can benefit. I love that he’s right there in plain view and just takes her bag in a split second and is gone.
Best of all I like that she ran after him!!! She’s so brave.
That father’s description sounds like a really good person and a person I would like to be friends with =D
So, here one of the many background music I don’t like.
The Bike and Fruit scene !! I just read it in the script, 10 minutes ago. 🙂
All this badassery is what the writer want. 🙂
Yes, this director is good in this way. We know which show you’re talking about LOL. That PD is ‘challenging’!
Toilet fight scene, very good one. 😉
And here, Good BGM.
Scene ending unexpected : nail clippers !
Many ideas hey hey.
Oh, here the background is the famous “han river bridge”. We see many drama characters commit suicide here. Including Kang Chul in “W”. 😉
Lord Buddha… such an extended family!!! XD XD XD XD
I loved the choreography of the toilet fight/struggle. YS tried to kick him but he swung her around. He was only a little violent towards the mirror and she already started hyper-ventillating. Luckily he was not more violent.
However, you’ll notice he is less gentle with his assistant Dae Young (girl on the bike)
Seeing how much YS was loved as a child–not only by her adoptive parents, but by the informal family of criminals–is heartwarming. And if all those guys hanging around the cafe did prison time, and still thought their lawyer was a nice guy despite not getting them off, speaks well to his character. As a defense lawyer, his job isn’t to get lawbreakers out of just punishment, it is to protect their rights as they’re tried according to the law.
Gosh, given her background history, she must have been so scared.
Here, before he take the enveloppe, there is a timelapse the director show with some slow-motion. I suppose the script have writed “time lapse”, I found the writer use this many times already.
@FGB aren’t the ex-criminals fun? They became such fun uncles to YS. She picked up the very skills she needed to locate Healer in the later episodes, from those ex-convicts.
@Fern, that’s what makes YS so extraordinary. With her background and panic attacks, she still didn’t hesitate to run after a guy and buttonhole him by herself. Fortunately it was Healer and not some bad guy!
Moon Ho have to deal with the “business woman SFL who want him since years but he don’t care”. ^^
@GB,
I agree she must have been hyper-ventillating!
He didn’t know back then about her trauma.
Ahjussi’s comment about it being difficult “even for you” for Healer to get a swab of the inside of YS’s mouth: I think it’s a slight dig at Healer for not ever having a relationship with–or kissing–a girl.
Reading how you prepared for this watch makes me feel like I came to class, there was an exam and I didn’t know so I didn’t study D= XD XD XD XD
@WE, that is quite a collection!!! =D
I like the motorbike girl. She’s nattering away at him like a wren. He totally treats her like an annoying sibling.
I’m here!!! Hello rewatch rangers!
Yes, the toilet scene was well choreographed. I like the broken mirror effect too.
YS was reckless to follow healer. What guys she has.
@WE Now that I’m doing a re-watch, I realised that MH has been holding back from his own life and relationships, because he has a great burden of guilt to clear first. After that is done … we’ll see that he does not mind meeting up with his only ‘love’.
Hey @Janey!
Moon-Hu wants to have his way with Kang Min-Jae.
But he is so protective of his Noona. He even teases her!
Hello @Welmaris, today forum is a little smaller than usually. How are you? 🙂
Hello Janey!!! =D
@Fern, I like how Dae Young calls Healer ‘hyung’ (not oppa) … meaning that she thinks of herself as one of the guys and not a soft girl. In real life she is an expert in some martial arts.
While sitting behind her on the bus, trying to pull some strands of her hair, the look on Healer’s face when YS puts on her hat…hah! She’s a smart cookie.
I’ll have to remember that term “gam” referring to the third eye or sixth sense. It reminds me of our learning the term “ham” when we watched CLOY.
@WE – is that the description for the female producer? Hahaha! So she likes him. Got that vibes even in ep1.
She thought he was in it for fame. Little does she know MH is motivated by something else.
Hi Janey!
I like how MH gently tries to size up whether to tell Myung Hee about YS or not… he starts by remembering this story about the locked room and whether to tell or not to tell the sleeping comrades. MH knows the story and she’s smart enough to figure out that he’s thinking of telling her or hiding something from her.
I could imagine that, @GB! She seems very fit.
I feel sorry for Moon Ho’s boss, but she misunderstands him. I think she protects him as much as she is able, but everyone has their limits.
@FGB, hey hey… It’s good to look in the script. We can see the action is really what the writer imagine, in so many details.
People don’t have an idea how accurate the script are. They think many details on screen come from the director. You can read that many times in comments. But they are wrong, most is from the script. You can even find short transition (stockshot of a place) in it. So, the only way to know what exactly put the director is to read it. Most of the time, the director don’t make changes, but find a way to “enhance” the script. And actors to act so the descriptions and parenthesis become more alive.
@WE so we see the long backstory that you hate, however it gives us the relationship of the brothers MH and MS and why Myung Hee is MH’s first love. She is a big sister/mum substitute to him.
MS regarded his brother almost as a son after he got married.
I really that memory of MH. That he can cry infront of his noona Myung-Hee. It was one of the things I like since the beginning.
Their relationship was very important for both of them…
Moon-shik is even jealous of his brother speaking familiarly to his wife who they have both known for decades. I’m glad she defended Moon-ho.
@Hi janey. Better late than never. 😉
I don’t remember her name (my usual drama disease, lol).
That’s informative @WE. Now that I’ve seen the Healer script, I know what you mean. So much was already decided by the writer.
MH thinks he is spying on his brother without the brother’s knowledge, but that’s not true. so the question is, why does MS not care that MH knows his evil doings. Probably he thought he could trust his brother no matter what.
Some super reporter could use some invisibility… O_O
@Cleo here’s the scene where MH finally realises he’s found YS.
OOO I love this… when Healer is in action pretending and getting access anywhere with some disuguise or other.
@FGB4877, thanks for asking about me. I’m doing okay, and happily visiting my younger daughter for the first time since before the pandemic. Unfortunately, I came to Seattle in time for a record-breaking heatwave, and my daughters home doesn’t have central air conditioning, as is the case for many homes in this city. Yesterday the interior of her condo got up to 89 degrees Fahrenheit. She only has a portable AC in the window of her bedroom. I may be camping in front of it for the next few days until this heat breaks.
My left eye continues to have issues with high pressure and swelling in the cornea. I’m using all the eyedrops as prescribed, sleeping with my head on two pillows, not laying on my surgical side, etc. The haziness in my vision comes and goes depending on the swelling in my eye. I’m hoping this passes soon.
Infiltration scene… it could be just that. But the writer take the opportunity to insert Healer voice over in it. LOL! No time to waste. 🙂
@FGB I love that Healer hides in plain sight and is just walking around openly without anyone suspecting.
@Welmaris, I’m sorry to hear that your eye is still feeling sore. I trust that you’ll recover well with more rest.
@GB,
So true. Also Healer thinks that being alone is okay.
He cannot understand since he wasn’t a part of a family before.
It is really sad, but he will learn pretty soon…*smiles*
Please @Welmaris take care. But I am glad to read that you are not forcing your sight.
@Welmaris – enjoy your visit with your daughter. And hoping for full healing of your eyes in time.
The different jobs/disguises of healer! He was cute even with bandana on his head as cleaner. 😉
OK, my next fave scenes in this episode, when Healer looks like a doofus and YS dances with her dad LOL. The shock and the horror of her dance moves affected even Ahjumma.
@Welmaris,
I am sorry to hear that your eyes is not okay too. I do hope everything be okay eventually.
Also, this transformation of his. He is geeky! LMAO!
@GB, that makes him free to do his job 😉
@GB,
I love that impromptue dance myself!
Oh my gosh, YS must’ve been so frightened during the bathroom altercation, especially when Healer smashed the mirror with his fist. We know he did it so she wouldn’t see his face, but for her it may have seemed like he was enraged. Healer is right to worry about her being too brave for her own good, chasing after strangers.
correction: Impromptu*
@GB, MS uses his knowledge that MH spies on him for blackmail – says that it makes MH guilty as well for not reporting. This is a continuing problem between the two brothers. MH says he sins by being silent. MS is not afraid to exploit that.
The song is: Thirsty!
I have seen the BTS of this scene. I loved it! LMAO
Oh, my favourite scene in this episode. The cafe dance. With both Healer and Ahjumma looking on horrified.
@Janey, how do you like Healer in the cafe getup? LOL.
Love how they are totally unselfconscious in front of customers. LOL the question that MH asked Healer to get the answer for ” Has she been abused … – Not applicable” LOL.
Later he hears that she had been abused, but not by this dad.
Such opposite environment of YS and healer growing up. YS surrounded by her dad and ragtag friends while Healer was mostly alone, with just 3 numbers on his phone, no friends and family.
@GB, unlike a novel, a screenplay is supposed to be a production/technical doc. So, no prose (or a few in kscreenplay to better render emotions and motivations), and all concise and precise about what needed in the story, and no description of additionnal useless content like you find in books.
AND, it’s great you can read this one, because I know you love this drama, and you can have an overview how it’s made. But format of this one is different of others scripts. Don’t take it as the usual rule about format. Just about the main things.
Here, section 3 and 4 of this news, I wrote about kscreenplay format :
http://w4worlds.eklablog.com/screenplay-improvements-a207773318
But I forgot to mention the basics of any script (no prose, tense present, describe only what related to the story, etc…)
Healer looks pretty good. We have to say that!
I love the conversations between Healer and Ahjumma!
Their dialogue has banter and is like a ping pong!
@Janey, I feel so sad for Healer because he was so abandoned and often alone. He even decided to live alone on a deserted island for the rest of his life. So sad for such a young man to be planning that kind of future.
The two brothers… so much love between them… and also so much hurt…
@GB – that 70’s mop of hair!!! LOL
The interest and attraction starts here with this dance number. Healer was watching her moves here.
This story is heartbreaking!
The girl who was sexually abused, is planning to commit suicide!
YS realizes it and comes back when she sees that she left her shoes behind!
Healer at this point finds Chae Young just weird, inefficient and bad at her job.
@FGB, the hurt in the end overtook the love. Maybe there was nothing much else that could be done to ‘save’ MS since he didn’t save himself. Instead MH helped Myung Hee.
Correction:
I the elevator was the bag, but in the roof she took off her shoes!
Here’s Healer telling Ahjumma how he dislikes YS’s type… words he will have to eat later.
I wondered how come YS was not more suspicious of Healer since she’s seen a guy in black with hood/cap several times already.
@Fern, hey hey,
But if you look more, she’s not so bad. She has nerve, dare to disguise, use many tricks.
Ok it was not smart to scream “oh, he go to the 9th floor”, facing the elevator, when you just entered like that, and someone else is here. ^^
YS thought, that they have abandoned her, where that was not the case.
Still, her story is so sad. A sever year old, that wanted to die, because she was left alone.
@Cleo I really like how YS does not close her eyes but goes ahead to help and intervene.
Now Healer gets the answers to the questions that MH asked him to find out. He hears that she was abused and starts to change his impression of her.
@WEnchanteur, yes, I agree. It’s his perception and he sees that she pays no attention to CCTV/car cams.
MH now hears the backstory and he’s in so much pain. So much guilt and he guesses or knows that MS is a lot to blame, because MS really did abandon YS in the end.
@GB,
Yes, he is touched. You can see that.
That’s why he turned off the camera too.
YS is brave, @WE wrote it above, she is brave and courageous.
She doesn’t know where to stop though, so Healer told her to be careful.
MH got emotional know he finds out that YS was abused.
@GB, yes Healer is constantly having to rethink his perception of her. It was like he couldn’t bear to look at the dialog between the two women but let the glasses look for him.
Both women have such horribly sad backstories.
YS with such empathy… she had to open up her past in order to reach out to the women who is about to jump.
And healer heard all of it, too.
scene on the roof. with healer spying, just at the right time.
find a way for the heroine to tell her sad life… to a woman about to commit suicide.
many intrications are needed to come to this scene. it make like a node. incoming causes, and generated consequences.
We get to see Yoon Dong-Won.
AT the beginning you think he is silly, but he is not.
I really like that he is doing all that because he wants to be in touch with the Ahjumma…
Even as a young child, MH is able to perceive that his brother is jealous over Myung Hee. There seems to be at least a 10 year age difference between the brothers.
We get introduced to Det Yoon who’s got a bee in the bonnet over Healer.
@Cleo it was so cute that Det Yoon actually has a crush on his old boss LOL.
Ahjumma has a point, Header should date YS then he can ask about her dream.
However he finds out by going into her room. Love that scene too!!!
Ahjumma is suggesting to Healer to go to a blind date with YS.
Little did she know, that they will go to a “blind date” later on! LMAO!
A foreshadow? Yep…
Not sure, but look like my comments fall into the spams from now…
Yup @Cleo… and that date was REALLY blind because they were not supposed to see each other’s faces. LOL
YS is about to go into her room and Healer has to hide! Love how he did it.
@GB,
Yes, he have a crush on her, but she turned him down, if I remember correctly!
Do you remember what happened in the morning though?
With her pyjamas and that singing dance?
@WE, I got this comment from you… it went into SPAM?
@GB,
That’s why I wrote it! It is like a foreshadow!
Healer and YS are our main OTP, like we didn’t know! HA!
Ms. Jo acting like a mumsy matchmaker suggesting a blind date to find out YS’s ‘dream’.
Now he wants to stick to her like glue because he has seen that she has a photo of him.
Yes, finaly I’m not on spam, but my comment is, even when I re-post it.
Is there a keyword in it, so it fall into spams ?!
I love the timing in this show. Precisely when Healer is asked to stay clear of the case because he’s become a wanted criminal for murder, he sees the photo of himself on YS’s wall and no way is he going to let go now.
If YS had not entered the room and turned on the light, Healer would have missed that photo of him on her wall. That photo (like the other photo of the 5 friends) changed everything for him and YS. It tied them together.
I love how they show us that those three characters are connected, even though they don’t know the entire truth from the very beginning.
MH is looking for YS and he will discover that JH is alive as well!
They are a family!
Here I retry to post again, and add “dot” on some words… My comment was not published :
I was saying the director c.h_e.a.t a lot about “par.kour” scenes. So I understand this because it’s a 2014 drama. It would be expensive to hire a specialised stuntman and make full sequence shots.
Here I re-retry to post again, and add “dot/_” on some words…
I was say_ing the direc_tor c.he.a.t_ a lot about “par.kour” scenes. So I under.stand this because it’s a 20_14 drama. It would be expensive to hire a specialized stuntman and make full sequence shots.
It’s so weird why this comment couldn’t be published ?!! whoo!!
Yes, @GB. The timings are so tight in this drama. Although he is still dubious about her at this point.
This was a good episode for background, although there is yet more to come. I loved that YS’s adoptive father was the primary influence on her, more than the adoptive mother I thought. He has such a good sense imagination.
@Cleo, yes I recall the morning scene and how she kicked her pajama pants under the bed and you know where it landed LOLOL.
Ahjumma was married at that time, but Det Yoon still had a crush on her and on her ability to hack and catch criminals with her skills.
I feel like watching Ep 3 now!!!
@WEnchanteur, I saw the cheats, too. Some of the action is just too far-fetched. Out-running a car on the rooftops for example. The Spiderman move when YS walks into her room. I’m sorry your posts didn’t show.
Yup, the final frame of ep2 with the 3 photos of Healer, MH and YS show the connection of all three in the story. healer was intrigued now to find out her dream and how his photo fits into it.
Good choice of this ep2 @GB!
I would need to rewatch again the 5 first episodes. Honestly, when rewatching here, I almost understand nothing. And I see that there was some points I didnt understand during first watch. Only I don’t understand more here, lololol !
But I don’t have time, so I will watch next episode. 6 or 7, I’m not sure which one.
@GB,
I totally understand you! Yes, of course I recall where it landed! LMAO
In Episode 3 , we have the introduction of Park Bong Su…
Thanks @Janey! I couldn’t pass up on all the disguising that Healer did and the Coffee Bay scenes LOL. It was such fun seeing Healer in action without breaking a sweat!
Thank you, @GB and everyone. Best wishes for a fine rest-of-the-weekend.
Thanks too @Fern! Glad you were able to join us after the race.
@WE – those scripts are detailed. Is that common for all drama series? Ive only seen scripts for plays and musicals and there’s not much annotations. You’ll have to take notes as you work in the play. Maybe there’s a different version for a director.
@WE LOL, here it’s expected that you can’t understand if you’re trying to type while watching. It’s only possible when we already know what’s happening and are not trying to catch the details in acting, scene and subs.
I actually do suggest that you watch Ep 1-5, and next week we will be watching Ep 5… so it will be a rewatch for you, with all background you need about what’s happening in the present.
Of course you can always message me in MDL or here if you want to clarify stuff about the show, not that I know everything, but I’ve been thinking about it for longer, so I may have some hints to share.
The Noshin story, questioning whether ignorance or knowledge is better in a dire situation, is an interesting way to introduce a theme to this drama. We later learn that Moon Ho agonizes because he’s chosen for many years to remain silent about an important issue.
One of the reasons Healer appeals to me is because it displays such economy in its storytelling. A few words, a quick scene, and we gain a lot of knowledge.
Ah ha! Spying on his brother! Is Moon Ho a good guy after all?
And from the video secretly filmed in his office, we learn Moon Ho’s brother can casually talk to his minion about “taking care” of people. And by that, we know he doesn’t mean looking after their welfare like he does for his disabled wife.
We learn about Healer: he’s 28 years old, been an errand boy for 8 years, takes any job that doesn’t involve killing, is respected in his field and can command high pay. He claims to not concern himself with ethics and justice. In his thinking, he is absolved from responsibility for the crimes he commits because he’s only doing the bidding of others. We also learn he’s a loner, and claims to be happy about that.
The next contract the customer (Moon Ho) makes with Healer lets us learn more about YS.
Thanks everyone for a great, fun watch party! See you next week!
I just realized both YS and Healer do disguises as part of their jobs!
Another thing I realized is that the theme song Eternal Love is not from a Korean artist but Michael Learns to Rock. They are international group, the producers must have paid them a lot for the song. I wonder what % of the budget is for OST? The korean music industry is also buoyed by the OSTs of kdramas.
Happy weekend everyone and thanks for a good rewatch!!! Chat with you again…
@Janey, it’s both detailed but also very concise. It’s a kind of magic not easy to make. Only focus on what needed. All drama scripts I now are the same about that (I quickly auto translate some samples from the screenplay I have).
Healer episode 1 is an exception, it make 1500 pages, when others script are more 1100-1200. Too much text in this episode. You can understand a bit because the writer need to describe for the first time some locations and characters. Later, episode 2, it’s like other scripts, around 1150 pages.
When reading you can see how it’s concise, if you remember the auto-translation is bad and make longer sentences than it is in korean langage. If you want to find useless content, you have to think about the meaning of the text, not how longer it is. I found a few useless sentences in Healer episode 1 for example.
It make me think than drama writer have to write fast, and don’t have always the time to make too much corrections. Maybe they do like me : a first draft, then a correction phase to the final draft. A whole drama is too much content. They can’t revise their script x10 like people writing movies.
Even in W script from Song Jae-Jung, you can find some small errors. A character is named “bodyguard”, and 3 episodes later, he become “security guard”. If she has a assistant, I rather think the assistant didn’t made the good job when profreading.
YS and her adoptive father singing and dancing in the cafe has to be one of my favorite scenes in all of Kdrama, especially with the reactions of everyone else watching.
Ooops I was saying “Lines”, not “pages”. ^^
The suicide scene. He didn’t want to keep recording. Her story resonated with him and made him feel mad.
The introduction of the story arc of the abused woman is done with great style. We see she is subject to physical and emotional abuse, is menaced by powerful men, etc.
We also see YS has empathy and a strong concern for others in danger. She’s also attentive to details, such as the purse left in the elevator by the woman.
But if YS is so good at detail and gam (sixth sense), I don’t know why she doesn’t notice that the man who was on the bus, who followed her and stole her backpack, who attacked her in the bathroom, the one who bumped into her while jogging and the one she sees in the elevator are wearing the same glasses. They also all had black hoodies pulled up over black hats.
Talking to the suicidal abused woman, YS reveals she was lost when age five, abandoned and rejected several times, abused while in the adoption system, and wanted to kill herself when she was young but has gotten past that.
When Healer cut off filming her soliloquy, it shows he has developed a measure of empathy for her.
@FGB, I didn’t think of it that way, but yes, YS’s sad past may have resonated with Jung Hoo too. I thought he was being sensitive that he was witnessing a very private scene, and so didn’t want to reveal himself or to continue the video recording. He felt intrusive and decided that the info gathered was enough for the client.
@Welmaris, she’s good, but hothead. At this point, the drama make us understand she’s skilled but lack experience like healer, who take attention of more details, like cams, etc.
About why she don’t recognize healer : in the bathroom, remember, healer hit and break the mirror ! (with bare hands, should hurt!). Some detail the writer put in the scene to help us to accept she don’t recognize him later.
The actor playing Detective Yoon, Jo Han Chul, is someone I’ve liked in other dramas. When we’re introduced to him hear, we learn quickly he’s detailed, determined, and dogged. He’s been following Healer for five years. He knows to the minute how long ago the police report on the killing came out, and what the contents of that report are. But a bad element of his character is that he makes assumptions about Healer (that he’s a killer) and tries to fit the facts to that assumption. Just because Healer’s email address is in the pocket of a body doesn’t mean Healer was the killer. That’s circumstantial.
Finished!!!, now to read all of you 😉
Triangle suggested, and Healer is already a tad jealous. Healer sees photos of Reporter Moon Ho and himself in Ys’s bedroom and is motivated to get closer to her to find out why these are on her wall and how they relate to her life’s dream.
End of episode.
I’m be back later to read everyone’s comments. I’ve got other things on my schedule today, including catching up on sleep since I didn’t get enough last night.
Thank you all for the great rewatch party!
I will return to read your comments ! Have a nice Saturday and Sunday!
@WE, yes, they must be very detailed. I did teatre more than 20 years and it was not as detailed. But I guess that both mediums even if they share the same DNA they are very different.
I still remember that I didn’t see the whole series but did read the (then) excellent Dramabeans recaps.
@Cleo, loved that dance too. It was soooo lame that was exactly the kind of thing you do with the people you love and have a long history with. Zero pretensions =D
There is something very sad about the eldest brother: got a botched version of everything he wanted. Got the girl he loved but that doesn’t love him back (that space if forever his dead friend’s), she was also hurt in the process. Has money and power but at the same time he is just an errand boy for the Elder. His brother loves him but he knows he despises him and doesn’t trust him.
He got everything he wanted and nothing at all at the same time. In Macbeth (if memory serves well) it is written that the Devil lies even when he tells the truth (the scenes where Macbeth remembers that in the prophecy of the witches he will maintain power unless the forest marchs against him, and now he gets marching armies camouflaged as trees and bushes).
@FGB,
It give us the bond between father and (adoptive) daughter.
This man took time in order YS to let him come near her.
I respect him so much for that!
I like that YS became who she is today (the Healer current timeline), because of her adoptive parents!
Something that even Myung-Hee recognizes later.
@FGB, Theatre is nice about some dialogs. There is inspiration from it.
If you read my “alien surgeon” test, you see in the last scene, there is a dialog right like the ones in theatre, with shorts lines and same feel. But I don’t make it so obvious usualy.
In theatre piece, there is no many parenthesis (didiscalias), but if you think more about that : it’s not needed because the meaning of the line is enough. When you read fan-fiction, you see sometimes authors write a description every line of dialogs. What is quite bad. Should be only when needed. So, if you come from theatre, you have this feeling already. And you could have a good sens about writing dialogs.
Also, there is no many descriptions to make about so many places like we see in a drama, in which each scene is potentialy a new place we never saw before.
Only, in a drama, it need to be more natural. And give more visual indications, because what we see on the screen is the most important. Characters don’t just stand in a room, they do action. Many events and scenes intercut.
Tought, even during dialogs, I found the parenthesis are more numerous in screenplay. Well, korean screenplays. Writers have a sharp vision of what they have in mind, and want to express it. Screenwriters are better considerate than in western countries and aren’t underrated. And we see here how it’s usefull when the writer can help so much to give meaning and accuracy. The script is more easy to understand (at first reading), and to apply on screen.
By the way, It make me want to read a theatre piece right now ! ^^
I shouldn’t because I have kscreenplay to read and my mean book actualy is to re-read again whole Frank herbert’ Dune saga (I’m at the last book).
@WE, you make me want to read those scripts even if only to have a feel of what they are like 😉 .
And yes, theatre is very different. Since you have to perform to audiences that could be very well far from you gesticulation is a must. It is an art that is made or broken by the artist’s ability of being able to emote subtly but at the same time being capable to be seen (understandable?) to the person at the end of the room. My guess is that TV and movies have the advantage of time – you can shoot a scene many times while a play has no redos – while at the same time asking for a naturality that would render a theatre actor short in emoting power.
The Dune Saga is on my queue (albeit in Digital – regrettably). Hope you have a nice reading and it was a pleasure to read you! 🙂
Hi Everyone, I’ve come back to read the comments I missed.
@Fern, yes, the sad saga between the brothers. So many if onlys… If only MS had truly loved MH, he wouldn’t have place young MH in the position where he was conflicted as to his loyalties. And then to continue to use MH’s loyal silence against him was a hit below the belt. Instead of assuaging MH’s sense of guilt, MS continued on his path of greed, deluding himself that he was successful, and trying to drag his younger brother down with him in a world of false privilege.
If only MS could have chosen to help Myung Hee without pushing his own agenda, and letting Elder seduce him, he could at least have had the true regard of his family, especially of his brother.
@FGB You have hit the nail on the head with your insight. Yes, indeed, MS appears to have gotten what he wanted but it is a totally botched version. The amazing irony is that he does not see how he himself is a mere errand boy. The saddest thing, but perhaps it’s the worst comeuppance for him … he loses even himself, his mind and remains in guilt.
@Janey and @Cleo, Yes the total opposites of how Jung Hoo grew up so alone and abandoned, while in the end YS who had been abandoned found family and extended family was poignant. Also that JH only has Ahjumma to really talk to. He does not choose to speak with Dae Young, so his only ‘companion’ after Sabu left, was Ahjumma. Their cynical, trusting repartee is always so much fun, and also touching.
It’s not in this episode, but the time that JH finally had a family meal again in YS’s home, was poignant. He was no longer used to the form of greeting which is said to start the meal. He was awkward and moved at the same time. Wonderfully acted by JCW.
I must apologise for not joining the re-watch party in real time, but Saturday nights have become more active of late, with social commitments cropping up. It must be the onset of Winter.
Episode 2 is one of my favourite parts of this series because it’s the time when Jung-hoo begins to awaken from his isolation (sleep) and starts to move onto a new path – which I might say tends to happen to your typical heroic character. In the course of his professional activities he sees Young-shin in her domestic setting, weird as it is, and is given new tasks (I refer to CG Jung, Joseph Campbell and any amount of heroic myth).
We see Young-shin employing some of the reprehensible techniques of a typical paparazzo, but these are only on the surface, and her native empathy with other human beings runs much deeper and will ultimately become Jung-hoo’s salvation.
I would like to watch Song Ji-na’s 2000 TV film “Love Story: Host of Memory” but I can’t seem to find it. It’s received 100% approval rating, and I’d like to know why. I’m certainly impressed with her work for “Healer”. If anyone can help me to find this film, I’ll be very grateful.
And here’s another call for help: In Episode 2 (32:00 in), Ms Jo mentions the amount they will be paid for Jung-hoo’s work. She calls it a “small bill”. Does anyone know how much that is?
Anyway, on to Episode 5 for next week, and my sincere thanks and admiration for all the posts on this stimulating thread.
@WE, will write to you on MDL.
Hi @Juriel! No apology needed. Just come here when you can. At least you have Saturday night social commitments LOL.
Yes, we get Jung Hoo’s introduction to YS’s home and for the first time, he is interested in the client’s target, when all along his policy has been indifference, ie to not know anything about his client. This time it starts to become personal.
Ahjumma mentions 7 items that the client (MH) wants Healer to find out about YS. I believe (I’m guessing) “1 cheque” per item means 1 million won each. IE, MH was willing to fork out a LOT of money to discover YS’s past… and later he wants to know her dream ie her future plans, as well.
I may be going to rewatch Ep 3-5 myself! Strange how the show is still so addictive. 😉
@GrowingBeautifully (GB)
Addictive indeed. I’ll join you in the preparation over the coming week. I need to refresh my memory.
Hi @Juriel! You’re right, JH is starting to step out of his apathetic bubble with YS as his assignment. There’s already some seed of interest but seeing his picture on her wall makes it something personal and even more intriguing.
@GB, we not only see the differences in the way Healer and YS grew up but also MH’s childhood and how they were all influenced with their upbringing on their motivations and what their dreams are. Healer dreams of an island of his own, YS dreams of being a respected journalist, fighting for truth and justice since she experienced this as an abused kid. MH dreams of finding a child and restore the broken lives of the remaining friends, including his.
@Janey Yes, poor Moon Ho too had a troubled time growing up. He took on so much of the guilt, guessing what might have happened to Ji An, and how his brother had a hand in it.
It was painful to see his memories of the loss of Ji An and to hear his voiceover in Ep 3 about his dream … a negation of dreaming:
The healing in ‘Healer’ needed to be extended to all parties who had been tainted by MS’s greed and Elder’s manipulations. I wish, Sabu had been able to be healed as well, but he remained cynical and unforgiving of MS until the end, and never even had a chance to have a meal with Jung Hoo.