Thank you, @Packmule3. I look forward to this refreshing drama so much. I feel like I shouldn’t laugh at some bits because they are dark but can’t help it.
Cleopatra
Thank you @Packmule3!
I am a bit anxious of what will happen tonight between our Chef and the stalker…🙄
Cleopatra
We got into the complicated phaze…🙄🤨 I don’t like the misunderstanding trope.
I really like that Da-Hyun is getting stronger and confronts the stalker herself.
While Gye-Hoon is denying what he feels about DH, Da Hyun will try to protect him by pushing him away. Which is noble idiocy by her part.
At the same time, GH being the way he is, is trying to be alone because he doesn’t want to be hurt again.
Da Hyun cannot understand him at the moment, that GH is putting up a strong front / facade because he is afraid to be emotionally involved.
Those two really… *face palm*
Fern
Yes, @Cleopatra, it’s all kicking off. Finally the sister and the stalker are in the same picture (with witnesses). What an ending!
I agree about the misunderstanding trope, yet how can someone expect to be believed if they say they can feel another’s emotions from a distance? But he will soon, I believe.
That taxi driver can’t keep a secret, can he?
Cleopatra
Kalimera my dear @Fern!
I was thinking last night, that so far, we haven’t discovered anything about the past. And, I am getting to believe that the Stalker guy was there in the past as well as a kid and might knows what happened to GH’s twin sister.
If that is true, then his sister’s move makes sense.
No, the taxi driver doesn’t know how to keep a secret…
nrllee
@Cleo I think so too. That stalker was one of the kids in DH and GH’s past. That’s why he kept insisting that he and DH had “history” or had met before. He kept referring to when they first met. She’s thinking in the present context but I get the feeling he’s thinking of the past? That’s why when he sent her those items one of them was a doll (I seem to recall)?
Cleopatra
Hey @nrllee,
Yes, you are right he sent her shoes and a doll, among other things.
I believe that the maknae police officer and the stalker as kids had to do why Gye Young left the place she was waiting her brother outside the playground.
From the preview I’ve got, we will get to see DH remembering things she has forgotten from the past.
Finally, we get to the bottom of this…
nrllee
Although I am a bit confused about why Stalker sis would try to “kill him” with the knife at the end of Ep7? After all her drama about being close to him etc? And making everyone think she’s a nutter by behaving so possessive. If she was going to kill him anyway shouldn’t she have been glad that DH and her family killed him in the first place? Or did she want that “honour” for herself? 🤔
Cleopatra
@nrllee,
The only thing that makes sense is that she read what DH told her about his stalking tendencies and her assault. Plus she also knows intel aboutthe past…
nrllee
@Cleo She acted odd when Stalker tried to call her from the phone booth in the beginning? This was before she got DH’s text. If I were frantically looking for my brother, I would pick up any call to me just in case it was him? Yet she just looked at the number? She didn’t seem anxious at all? And she had turned her phone off after that? That’s why she didn’t get DH’s text messages till right at the end of the ep. She turned her phone back on, then read the messages from DH and then showed up at the restaurant right at the end. It was just a very odd sequence of events after all that she had shown us of herself in the past eps. That’s why she was included in the voiceover saying, “should I just kill him”. Because Stalker sis did try to kill him at the end of the ep. Hopefully we will get some clarity about her behaviour tonight.
Cleopatra
@nrllee,
True. That’s why it was a plot twist. Let us see the motives behind her decision to act impulsively. I do believe that we will learn more…
GrowingBeautifully (GB)
I find Link one of the best shows in bringing together the dark and light, the comedy and the pathos. The timing is so good. The surprises are so funny. Not that much to laugh about in Ep 7 though.
We get a bit more backstory and when we think we’ve got a good grasp of the characters, show starts to add the surprise twists.
I thought that GH had already told DH that he can feel her emotions? (Or didn’t he?) But she still does not put that together with why he turns up at the right time when she’s most afraid or anxious.
There are different people being somewhat delusional at least or trying to justify their guilt at worst. The most delusional and the most obvious is Stalker Lee and his so-called Sister. They are living in their own alternate reality where carrying or grabbing weapons to rid themselves of their enemies is normal.
DH’s mum is definitely ‘delusional’ in thinking that she can cook well or that the neighbours really want to eat her cooking. LOL. And GH is in denial about caring for others. He seems to think that he can always keep people and cute dogs at a distance (we see his resolve slipping).
Only DH who used to lie like crazy, looks at the reality, and is becoming more truthful. It’s good to see that she takes action to stand up to Stalker.
Cleopatra
Kalispera!
I just finished watching Episode 8. Some key points in a hurry!
1. Chef Lee is not the sister of the Stalker Lee. She is the sister of the Stalker’s ex girlfriend. She was murdered and found in that forest.
2. Stalker Lee knows what happened in the past to GH’s sister. We now know that she was injured that the piano teacher was not the one who did it. ( I was sure he was not the one who killed her)
3. Our suspicions that the maknae police officer is the son of the piano teacher was correct.
4. DH told the police lady that the stalker not only was stalking her, but he could be responsible for killing that girl they have found in that apartment near the old house GH lived. So, Chef Lee’s sister is not his only victim.
5. DH starts to feel the emotions of GH. Wi-Fi Couple indeed!
I think that was a good plot twist, since that means that she needs to feel what GH was feeling all the time in order to understand him better.
That’s all for now, more tomorrow!
Fern
Such a good and emotional episode. @Growing Beautifully, you are absolutely correct about the opposing moods in this drama and the timing. It is so well done.
I loved the mother and the gran sitting outside of Da Hyun’s door listening in on Chef Lee’s story and then being so kind to her in the morning.
The ending was excellent – the four young adults changing to themselves as children and back again. Casting of the children was excellent – the boys look particularly like the adults.
nrllee
Great ep. We were right to a certain extent about Stalker’s “sister”. It made sense after ep8’s reveal. The phone call which we thought she received from Stalker on the pay phone was probably NOT him but the police ringing her to ask her to identify the body of her sister.
I guess it’s safe to assume that potentially these are trophies? From his previous kills? Why would he gift his present crush with items from his previous kills? Or were they a mix? Some were trophy items and other items (like the shoes) were new? There’s a music box, a hair clip, the scarf, shoes (I forget but was the lady in the Villa that was found wearing the same shoes?), doll and something else I can’t quite make out (a phone case?).
At the playground (how apt a place for the flashback to their childhood). And the red Cross in the background like a sentinel implying confessions.
This drama is doing a great job of keeping the audience in suspense. So far the loose ends have been tied up well eg in the case of EJ (lady chef). I am confident that we will get full disclosure at the end.
Good thoughts @GB. I agree about this drama being a great balance. It’s hard to do dark humour well but this drama is pulling it off.
GrowingBeautifully (GB)
It’s good to see that Show gives us more to chew on in Episode 8, with sufficient reveals and still sufficient mystery to keep our interest going.
I liked that we got enough of the backstory of Lady Chef Lee, and probably 20-year old memories of DH. Friend Jin Hu’s recap of all the people around him with tendencies to either kill, or hide corpses or kill and hide them was hilarious. His anxiety about getting out of that town alive is totally justified. LOL.
The whole gang of the 2 restaurants coming together against Stalker Lee was quite gratifying. Also the fact that DH sought out Lady Cop, Min Jo, and told her about the stalker and that she wanted to turn herself in. It’s such a relief that DH has change from the hopelessly frightened, dithering mess, into someone who decided to be brave, and to keep her loved ones safe.
@Fern, yes I really liked the confirmation of who the adults were as children. We had our suspicions and we were right. They seem to have stayed true to their childhood personalities. Stalker Lee was a bully who pushed girls while GH and GY stood up to him, and Officer Ji seems to be still on the side of good. As a child he could not hold back confessing that he saw his father washing blood off his clothes.
@nrllee, I took note of the same framed shot with the red cross in the background. I didn’t go as far as to think that it made for an appropriate backdrop for a confession, however it was of sorts … a confession to provoke and extort a begging on the knees scenario from GH.
Other stuff I liked: the OST music transitions that set the mood just right, the parallel between Lady Chef Lee and GH who both are afraid of growing close to people who care about them in case they mistakenly believe they could be happy/get hurt later.
It’s great to see that GH already has the cute dog sleeping in his apartment, and that he’s melting where DH is concerned. I hope Lady Chef will let in more people to care about her.
I wonder why Stalker Lee was hunting through all his old toys to locate the old game machine. He didn’t take it out when he met with Officer Ji and GH in the playground.
Did I read too much into it was or was there a suggestion in the preview that perhaps the knack of feeling the other person’s emotions may have become reciprocal?
nrllee
I also liked the talk EJ (lady chef) had with GH in the car. It made me wonder if I would rather be her or GH. If my loved one went missing (in similar circumstances), would I rather have closure (the body found) and be able to move on OR live in hope/limbo (the body is never found) that they are still alive? 🤔.
I too liked the voiceover of JinHu after full disclosure by GH and how his views of people around him altered permanently as a result (be careful what you wish/ask for 😂). And the voiceover of DH as she recounted how the children of the township(?) became adults…and the sobering realisation that one of them didn’t. 😢
@GB I wondered too about the game console. I thought he would whip it out at the playground or send a pic of it to GH to lure him to there. It seemed like neither happened. So it’s a mystery. I like how this drama does red herrings. It builds expectations and then cleverly debunks them (like the Stalker’s sister). It adds to the mystery behind the town folk. Not everyone is who they seem. And not everything is as it appears.
Cleopatra
Kalimera Ladies,
@nrllee and @GB Unnie the game console had the word : Monster with greek letters: Μ Ο Ν Σ Τ Ε Ρ, below the screen. So, it also has a dual meaning.
Stalker Lee is a monster if he has killed more than two women so far and stalked DH. I truly believe that he had that game with him when GE was killed. Maybe the killer gave it to him in order to keep him silenced?
@GB Unnie, as I have written on my notes above, DH starts to feel the feelings of GH. That was implied on Episode 9’s preview.
GrowingBeautifully (GB)
@Cleo
Thanks for confirming about the shared feelings of DH and GH. That will be great, in the sense that it will no longer be one-sided. When they acknowledge that they have a 2-sided love, maybe they also start sharing the emotions!
What a likely guess! It could well be that the game console was a gift to lure the child(ren) and silence them. Owned by a monster and given to one who would become a monster?
@nrllee
Yes, the voiceovers, the realisations… were what raised this episode. I’m tired of shows that try to take the mystery too far, refusing to give any proper clues or using unreliable narrators until the end.
By now I expect the Show to keep displaying before us the likely kidnapper(s) of Gye Young. However, we are left with the taxi driver, the ex-piano teacher, the wife-beater (husband of aerobics teacher) and the police themselves. If we want to include the women, then there are the aerobics teacher, the real estate lady, the wife of taxi driver, DH’s mum and grandma and the ex-shaman. I may have left out some of them.
Fern
I’m wondering about Won Tak, the police officer. In the recollections it now seems that he was a friend of GH and may have registered that there was an emotional connection between GH and his sister. He was with GH at the time of the incident so can’t be involved. His father therefore can’t be protecting him, unless he was tricked somehow into thinking it was. After the event, Won Tak must have felt guilt about his father’s perceived actions and later misplaced anger that GH ‘let’ all resulting events happen by leaving his sister alone. Won Tak still seems to be on the good side, as you say, @Growing Beautifully, but I hated that he let the other two beat themselves up for several minutes before separating them. He is no friend of Stalker Lee and hopefully he will resist the temptation to join forces with him to do something to GH.
Stalker Lee mentioned someone dragging the injured GY away. This may or may not have been the murderer. I also wondered, if it was an adult, why wouldn’t she have been carried away? But I suppose there are various reasons. If it were someone who was trying to get her to safety, it would be better to drag her depending on the extent of injuries. If it were someone trying to hide a crime, it could be trying not to touch the evidence. If it was a child, they would drag rather than carry. But it also might not matter.
I wonder if Lee Jin Geun himself was the perpetrator even at that early age. It makes me wonder if the doll or another trophy in the ‘gift box’ belonged to Eun Young? Lady chef EJ has also seen the contents of the box. Would she be able to testify about them if they are, in fact, trophies?
The game console could be anything at this point. It’s related to the crime and I’m guessing it wasn’t in Jin Geun’s possession until that point. It could be something given to young Jin Geun to keep him quiet; something he took away from another child; something he found on the scene; something he could plant as evidence to implicate someone else? I like how this show keeps us guessing as the layers are pulled away ever so slowly.
The older police officer is blinded by his desire to convict the piano teacher. I want to think that he sincerely believes it was the piano teacher rather than that he is protecting someone else or himself. But he seems to be ready to thwart other attempts to solve crimes. I will rely on clever Lady Cop Min Jo to figure out how to turn the investigation in the correct direction. She is intelligent and definitely seems to be the one cop at the station who is neither jaded nor involved. I hope that she stays safe.
Fern
Kalimera, @Cleopatra. Thank you for noticing the words on the console! So apt. I saw your post just after I sent mine. I don’t think that we have seen the console in any flashbacks or photos about the children. It could even have belonged to DH.
I’m still a bit worried about DH’s father and if he was involved somehow.
nrllee
@Cleo good catch on the Monster inscribed on the game console.
@Fern yes that is a possibility. We explored the possibility that DH’s mother and grandma had done something to the dad due to their proficiency in dealing with Stalker’s body. So DH’s dad must’ve had a seedy past. Yes also to how WonTak just stood by and watched (as a police officer 🙄) for a bit before stepping in to stop them.
I find it hard to believe that a child would be able to drag GY’s body away easily without being seen. I think it’s more likely an adult. Was the “witness” reliable? The one who put Piano teacher as the last person to have been seen with GY. He/She hasn’t surfaced yet. And why (and how) did GY leave her spot to be where the Piano Teacher was in his car when he was seen by the witness? Did DH spot her by herself and get her to play with her and the girls headed somewhere else?
I would still like to think that the link between DH and GH was GY. That somehow when she gets her memories back, it would be as if DH would finally be able to assuage the guilt GH carried with him all these years for having left GY on her own. Closure for GH finally.
Cleopatra
Kalo mesimeri ladies!
@GB unnie,
I agree, when DH will feel how GY feels, then it will make her realize his struggles and the facade he puts towards others.
It could be. @Fern got nice guesses as well!
As for Gye Young’s case, I think that @Fern has a point. The (possible) killer is the one who hasn’t been revealed to us yet. So, we have a killer on the loose or she / he is not alive anymore?
Also, should we visit the theory that the neighbourhood handled the GY’s killer on its own?
DH’s mother and halmeoni knew what to do with the Stalker’s body and we saw that the taxi driver easily tried to bury his body as well. We are wondering if those two have done the same to DH’s father. As for the TD, has he done it before? I think he has, but who was his victim?
@GB unnie, let us add to your list the truck driver / husband of the lady with the hairdressing saloon. The one with the yogurt who tried to give it to that little girl, but GH found her that day and took her to the police station.
He is significant. Otherwise, we wouldn’t have seen him after the news that “the boy is back..”
@Fern, I agree with your points. We know that someone called and said that the piano teacher took her from a specific point, let’s call it B. Point B is a road that is not near Point A, where the playground was. GH and his friend – now the maknae police officer – were together playing soccer in Point A.
From the four kids of the neighbourhood, two of them were in Point A, GH and the maknae police officer.
But where were Stalker Lee and Da Hyun?
If Da Hyun met Gye Young somewhere in the way, it is possible that she was injured as well. Afterall she has lost her memory due to a head injury.
I also agree with @nrllee. Is the witness “reliable” ? The only thing that makes sense is that Stalker Lee tried to bully again GY and DH, at some point, but when did that happen?
Gye Young was not injured the time the piano teacher took her for a ride with his car.
So, we have a time frame that we don’t know anything about. Stalker Lee claims he was a witness, but I also think with @nrllee with the idea, that DH might be a witness as well.
So, who is exactly the person that the piano teacher is protecting ? His son was with GH in Point A. It is testified by several other children. He could have told the truth the police, but he didn’t.
And that is the real mystery in the whole incident…
P.S. The witness who said he / she saw the piano teacher taking GY with his car could be an accomplice of the killer?
Cleopatra
Correction: So, we have a time frame that we don’t know anything about. Stalker Lee claims he was a witness, but I also AGREE with @nrllee with the idea, that DH might be a witness as well.
nrllee
Good points @Cleo. And there’s the point about the blood that Piano Teacher was trying to wash off, which WonTak confessed to GH in his letter. Is WonTak a reliable witness? We know he has anger management issues and violent streak in adult life. Did he have the same temperament as a child? I imagine the blood incident wasn’t used to incriminate Piano teacher? It was just the witness testimony about him being the last person seen to be with GY? But I do agree that he’s unlikely to be the person responsible for killing GY. I get the feeling that he may be an accessory to it but not the actual perpetrator. Hence his remorse. Truck driver who replayed the whole ordeal with another child is top of my list. Why would he do that as soon as GH’s return was made known? To send the Police back on the trail with Piano Teacher (to make sure he stays silent)? Taxi driver is also on my radar. The fact that he opted to bury Stalker straight away instead of just reporting the accident to police (he hit him unintentionally? Stalker just walked out into the path of the taxi) was suspicious. But he couldn’t run down GH when asked to by Stalker so I doubt he would be willing to kill a little girl intentionally either. Could he also be an accessory?
Whose child is Stalker? Who are his parents? Could he be the child of truck driver?
Cleopatra
Kalo mesimeri dear @nrllee!
WonTak didn’t have in the past such urges. The reason he has anger management issues is that he is angry with his father who supposed to kill his best friend’s twin sister. He most likely grow up bottling up lingering regrets, anger and other emotions that made him as an adult to be violent.
I don’t think WT confessed to the police that he saw his father with those bloody clothes. He only wrote that to GH in his letter, as you have already said.
You are right about your suspicions. Those characters are all shady for several weird behaviours.
I could say that Stalker’s family could be that couple with the abusive husband, we saw back in the earlier episodes. OR someone who is not revealed yet.
Isn’t it weird that the Police didn’t recognize him by his surname after the incident with Chef Lee? Could that mean that his immediate family is not in the area any longer?
I think the Show will answer these questions based on what we have seen so far!
Thank you, @Packmule3. I look forward to this refreshing drama so much. I feel like I shouldn’t laugh at some bits because they are dark but can’t help it.
Thank you @Packmule3!
I am a bit anxious of what will happen tonight between our Chef and the stalker…🙄
We got into the complicated phaze…🙄🤨 I don’t like the misunderstanding trope.
I really like that Da-Hyun is getting stronger and confronts the stalker herself.
While Gye-Hoon is denying what he feels about DH, Da Hyun will try to protect him by pushing him away. Which is noble idiocy by her part.
At the same time, GH being the way he is, is trying to be alone because he doesn’t want to be hurt again.
Da Hyun cannot understand him at the moment, that GH is putting up a strong front / facade because he is afraid to be emotionally involved.
Those two really… *face palm*
Yes, @Cleopatra, it’s all kicking off. Finally the sister and the stalker are in the same picture (with witnesses). What an ending!
I agree about the misunderstanding trope, yet how can someone expect to be believed if they say they can feel another’s emotions from a distance? But he will soon, I believe.
That taxi driver can’t keep a secret, can he?
Kalimera my dear @Fern!
I was thinking last night, that so far, we haven’t discovered anything about the past. And, I am getting to believe that the Stalker guy was there in the past as well as a kid and might knows what happened to GH’s twin sister.
If that is true, then his sister’s move makes sense.
No, the taxi driver doesn’t know how to keep a secret…
@Cleo I think so too. That stalker was one of the kids in DH and GH’s past. That’s why he kept insisting that he and DH had “history” or had met before. He kept referring to when they first met. She’s thinking in the present context but I get the feeling he’s thinking of the past? That’s why when he sent her those items one of them was a doll (I seem to recall)?
Hey @nrllee,
Yes, you are right he sent her shoes and a doll, among other things.
I believe that the maknae police officer and the stalker as kids had to do why Gye Young left the place she was waiting her brother outside the playground.
From the preview I’ve got, we will get to see DH remembering things she has forgotten from the past.
Finally, we get to the bottom of this…
Although I am a bit confused about why Stalker sis would try to “kill him” with the knife at the end of Ep7? After all her drama about being close to him etc? And making everyone think she’s a nutter by behaving so possessive. If she was going to kill him anyway shouldn’t she have been glad that DH and her family killed him in the first place? Or did she want that “honour” for herself? 🤔
@nrllee,
The only thing that makes sense is that she read what DH told her about his stalking tendencies and her assault. Plus she also knows intel aboutthe past…
@Cleo She acted odd when Stalker tried to call her from the phone booth in the beginning? This was before she got DH’s text. If I were frantically looking for my brother, I would pick up any call to me just in case it was him? Yet she just looked at the number? She didn’t seem anxious at all? And she had turned her phone off after that? That’s why she didn’t get DH’s text messages till right at the end of the ep. She turned her phone back on, then read the messages from DH and then showed up at the restaurant right at the end. It was just a very odd sequence of events after all that she had shown us of herself in the past eps. That’s why she was included in the voiceover saying, “should I just kill him”. Because Stalker sis did try to kill him at the end of the ep. Hopefully we will get some clarity about her behaviour tonight.
@nrllee,
True. That’s why it was a plot twist. Let us see the motives behind her decision to act impulsively. I do believe that we will learn more…
I find Link one of the best shows in bringing together the dark and light, the comedy and the pathos. The timing is so good. The surprises are so funny. Not that much to laugh about in Ep 7 though.
We get a bit more backstory and when we think we’ve got a good grasp of the characters, show starts to add the surprise twists.
I thought that GH had already told DH that he can feel her emotions? (Or didn’t he?) But she still does not put that together with why he turns up at the right time when she’s most afraid or anxious.
There are different people being somewhat delusional at least or trying to justify their guilt at worst. The most delusional and the most obvious is Stalker Lee and his so-called Sister. They are living in their own alternate reality where carrying or grabbing weapons to rid themselves of their enemies is normal.
DH’s mum is definitely ‘delusional’ in thinking that she can cook well or that the neighbours really want to eat her cooking. LOL. And GH is in denial about caring for others. He seems to think that he can always keep people and cute dogs at a distance (we see his resolve slipping).
Only DH who used to lie like crazy, looks at the reality, and is becoming more truthful. It’s good to see that she takes action to stand up to Stalker.
Kalispera!
I just finished watching Episode 8. Some key points in a hurry!
1. Chef Lee is not the sister of the Stalker Lee. She is the sister of the Stalker’s ex girlfriend. She was murdered and found in that forest.
2. Stalker Lee knows what happened in the past to GH’s sister. We now know that she was injured that the piano teacher was not the one who did it. ( I was sure he was not the one who killed her)
3. Our suspicions that the maknae police officer is the son of the piano teacher was correct.
4. DH told the police lady that the stalker not only was stalking her, but he could be responsible for killing that girl they have found in that apartment near the old house GH lived. So, Chef Lee’s sister is not his only victim.
5. DH starts to feel the emotions of GH. Wi-Fi Couple indeed!
I think that was a good plot twist, since that means that she needs to feel what GH was feeling all the time in order to understand him better.
That’s all for now, more tomorrow!
Such a good and emotional episode. @Growing Beautifully, you are absolutely correct about the opposing moods in this drama and the timing. It is so well done.
I loved the mother and the gran sitting outside of Da Hyun’s door listening in on Chef Lee’s story and then being so kind to her in the morning.
The ending was excellent – the four young adults changing to themselves as children and back again. Casting of the children was excellent – the boys look particularly like the adults.
Great ep. We were right to a certain extent about Stalker’s “sister”. It made sense after ep8’s reveal. The phone call which we thought she received from Stalker on the pay phone was probably NOT him but the police ringing her to ask her to identify the body of her sister.
These were the contents of the box (presumably items gifted to DH)
https://i.ibb.co/NtCdY0N/9-E5-A6028-4-DB2-47-A3-BE49-60-F3-DB194862.jpg
I guess it’s safe to assume that potentially these are trophies? From his previous kills? Why would he gift his present crush with items from his previous kills? Or were they a mix? Some were trophy items and other items (like the shoes) were new? There’s a music box, a hair clip, the scarf, shoes (I forget but was the lady in the Villa that was found wearing the same shoes?), doll and something else I can’t quite make out (a phone case?).
Also I liked this framed shot
https://i.ibb.co/MGFYQrh/8-E125-AB5-2975-431-D-8699-51-E808-AAE996.jpg
At the playground (how apt a place for the flashback to their childhood). And the red Cross in the background like a sentinel implying confessions.
This drama is doing a great job of keeping the audience in suspense. So far the loose ends have been tied up well eg in the case of EJ (lady chef). I am confident that we will get full disclosure at the end.
Good thoughts @GB. I agree about this drama being a great balance. It’s hard to do dark humour well but this drama is pulling it off.
It’s good to see that Show gives us more to chew on in Episode 8, with sufficient reveals and still sufficient mystery to keep our interest going.
I liked that we got enough of the backstory of Lady Chef Lee, and probably 20-year old memories of DH. Friend Jin Hu’s recap of all the people around him with tendencies to either kill, or hide corpses or kill and hide them was hilarious. His anxiety about getting out of that town alive is totally justified. LOL.
The whole gang of the 2 restaurants coming together against Stalker Lee was quite gratifying. Also the fact that DH sought out Lady Cop, Min Jo, and told her about the stalker and that she wanted to turn herself in. It’s such a relief that DH has change from the hopelessly frightened, dithering mess, into someone who decided to be brave, and to keep her loved ones safe.
@Fern, yes I really liked the confirmation of who the adults were as children. We had our suspicions and we were right. They seem to have stayed true to their childhood personalities. Stalker Lee was a bully who pushed girls while GH and GY stood up to him, and Officer Ji seems to be still on the side of good. As a child he could not hold back confessing that he saw his father washing blood off his clothes.
@nrllee, I took note of the same framed shot with the red cross in the background. I didn’t go as far as to think that it made for an appropriate backdrop for a confession, however it was of sorts … a confession to provoke and extort a begging on the knees scenario from GH.
Other stuff I liked: the OST music transitions that set the mood just right, the parallel between Lady Chef Lee and GH who both are afraid of growing close to people who care about them in case they mistakenly believe they could be happy/get hurt later.
It’s great to see that GH already has the cute dog sleeping in his apartment, and that he’s melting where DH is concerned. I hope Lady Chef will let in more people to care about her.
I wonder why Stalker Lee was hunting through all his old toys to locate the old game machine. He didn’t take it out when he met with Officer Ji and GH in the playground.
Did I read too much into it was or was there a suggestion in the preview that perhaps the knack of feeling the other person’s emotions may have become reciprocal?
I also liked the talk EJ (lady chef) had with GH in the car. It made me wonder if I would rather be her or GH. If my loved one went missing (in similar circumstances), would I rather have closure (the body found) and be able to move on OR live in hope/limbo (the body is never found) that they are still alive? 🤔.
I too liked the voiceover of JinHu after full disclosure by GH and how his views of people around him altered permanently as a result (be careful what you wish/ask for 😂). And the voiceover of DH as she recounted how the children of the township(?) became adults…and the sobering realisation that one of them didn’t. 😢
@GB I wondered too about the game console. I thought he would whip it out at the playground or send a pic of it to GH to lure him to there. It seemed like neither happened. So it’s a mystery. I like how this drama does red herrings. It builds expectations and then cleverly debunks them (like the Stalker’s sister). It adds to the mystery behind the town folk. Not everyone is who they seem. And not everything is as it appears.
Kalimera Ladies,
@nrllee and @GB Unnie the game console had the word : Monster with greek letters: Μ Ο Ν Σ Τ Ε Ρ, below the screen. So, it also has a dual meaning.
Stalker Lee is a monster if he has killed more than two women so far and stalked DH. I truly believe that he had that game with him when GE was killed. Maybe the killer gave it to him in order to keep him silenced?
@GB Unnie, as I have written on my notes above, DH starts to feel the feelings of GH. That was implied on Episode 9’s preview.
@Cleo
Thanks for confirming about the shared feelings of DH and GH. That will be great, in the sense that it will no longer be one-sided. When they acknowledge that they have a 2-sided love, maybe they also start sharing the emotions!
What a likely guess! It could well be that the game console was a gift to lure the child(ren) and silence them. Owned by a monster and given to one who would become a monster?
@nrllee
Yes, the voiceovers, the realisations… were what raised this episode. I’m tired of shows that try to take the mystery too far, refusing to give any proper clues or using unreliable narrators until the end.
By now I expect the Show to keep displaying before us the likely kidnapper(s) of Gye Young. However, we are left with the taxi driver, the ex-piano teacher, the wife-beater (husband of aerobics teacher) and the police themselves. If we want to include the women, then there are the aerobics teacher, the real estate lady, the wife of taxi driver, DH’s mum and grandma and the ex-shaman. I may have left out some of them.
I’m wondering about Won Tak, the police officer. In the recollections it now seems that he was a friend of GH and may have registered that there was an emotional connection between GH and his sister. He was with GH at the time of the incident so can’t be involved. His father therefore can’t be protecting him, unless he was tricked somehow into thinking it was. After the event, Won Tak must have felt guilt about his father’s perceived actions and later misplaced anger that GH ‘let’ all resulting events happen by leaving his sister alone. Won Tak still seems to be on the good side, as you say, @Growing Beautifully, but I hated that he let the other two beat themselves up for several minutes before separating them. He is no friend of Stalker Lee and hopefully he will resist the temptation to join forces with him to do something to GH.
Stalker Lee mentioned someone dragging the injured GY away. This may or may not have been the murderer. I also wondered, if it was an adult, why wouldn’t she have been carried away? But I suppose there are various reasons. If it were someone who was trying to get her to safety, it would be better to drag her depending on the extent of injuries. If it were someone trying to hide a crime, it could be trying not to touch the evidence. If it was a child, they would drag rather than carry. But it also might not matter.
I wonder if Lee Jin Geun himself was the perpetrator even at that early age. It makes me wonder if the doll or another trophy in the ‘gift box’ belonged to Eun Young? Lady chef EJ has also seen the contents of the box. Would she be able to testify about them if they are, in fact, trophies?
The game console could be anything at this point. It’s related to the crime and I’m guessing it wasn’t in Jin Geun’s possession until that point. It could be something given to young Jin Geun to keep him quiet; something he took away from another child; something he found on the scene; something he could plant as evidence to implicate someone else? I like how this show keeps us guessing as the layers are pulled away ever so slowly.
The older police officer is blinded by his desire to convict the piano teacher. I want to think that he sincerely believes it was the piano teacher rather than that he is protecting someone else or himself. But he seems to be ready to thwart other attempts to solve crimes. I will rely on clever Lady Cop Min Jo to figure out how to turn the investigation in the correct direction. She is intelligent and definitely seems to be the one cop at the station who is neither jaded nor involved. I hope that she stays safe.
Kalimera, @Cleopatra. Thank you for noticing the words on the console! So apt. I saw your post just after I sent mine. I don’t think that we have seen the console in any flashbacks or photos about the children. It could even have belonged to DH.
I’m still a bit worried about DH’s father and if he was involved somehow.
@Cleo good catch on the Monster inscribed on the game console.
@Fern yes that is a possibility. We explored the possibility that DH’s mother and grandma had done something to the dad due to their proficiency in dealing with Stalker’s body. So DH’s dad must’ve had a seedy past. Yes also to how WonTak just stood by and watched (as a police officer 🙄) for a bit before stepping in to stop them.
I find it hard to believe that a child would be able to drag GY’s body away easily without being seen. I think it’s more likely an adult. Was the “witness” reliable? The one who put Piano teacher as the last person to have been seen with GY. He/She hasn’t surfaced yet. And why (and how) did GY leave her spot to be where the Piano Teacher was in his car when he was seen by the witness? Did DH spot her by herself and get her to play with her and the girls headed somewhere else?
I would still like to think that the link between DH and GH was GY. That somehow when she gets her memories back, it would be as if DH would finally be able to assuage the guilt GH carried with him all these years for having left GY on her own. Closure for GH finally.
Kalo mesimeri ladies!
@GB unnie,
I agree, when DH will feel how GY feels, then it will make her realize his struggles and the facade he puts towards others.
It could be. @Fern got nice guesses as well!
As for Gye Young’s case, I think that @Fern has a point. The (possible) killer is the one who hasn’t been revealed to us yet. So, we have a killer on the loose or she / he is not alive anymore?
Also, should we visit the theory that the neighbourhood handled the GY’s killer on its own?
DH’s mother and halmeoni knew what to do with the Stalker’s body and we saw that the taxi driver easily tried to bury his body as well. We are wondering if those two have done the same to DH’s father. As for the TD, has he done it before? I think he has, but who was his victim?
@GB unnie, let us add to your list the truck driver / husband of the lady with the hairdressing saloon. The one with the yogurt who tried to give it to that little girl, but GH found her that day and took her to the police station.
He is significant. Otherwise, we wouldn’t have seen him after the news that “the boy is back..”
@Fern, I agree with your points. We know that someone called and said that the piano teacher took her from a specific point, let’s call it B. Point B is a road that is not near Point A, where the playground was. GH and his friend – now the maknae police officer – were together playing soccer in Point A.
From the four kids of the neighbourhood, two of them were in Point A, GH and the maknae police officer.
But where were Stalker Lee and Da Hyun?
If Da Hyun met Gye Young somewhere in the way, it is possible that she was injured as well. Afterall she has lost her memory due to a head injury.
I also agree with @nrllee. Is the witness “reliable” ? The only thing that makes sense is that Stalker Lee tried to bully again GY and DH, at some point, but when did that happen?
Gye Young was not injured the time the piano teacher took her for a ride with his car.
So, we have a time frame that we don’t know anything about. Stalker Lee claims he was a witness, but I also think with @nrllee with the idea, that DH might be a witness as well.
So, who is exactly the person that the piano teacher is protecting ? His son was with GH in Point A. It is testified by several other children. He could have told the truth the police, but he didn’t.
And that is the real mystery in the whole incident…
P.S. The witness who said he / she saw the piano teacher taking GY with his car could be an accomplice of the killer?
Correction: So, we have a time frame that we don’t know anything about. Stalker Lee claims he was a witness, but I also AGREE with @nrllee with the idea, that DH might be a witness as well.
Good points @Cleo. And there’s the point about the blood that Piano Teacher was trying to wash off, which WonTak confessed to GH in his letter. Is WonTak a reliable witness? We know he has anger management issues and violent streak in adult life. Did he have the same temperament as a child? I imagine the blood incident wasn’t used to incriminate Piano teacher? It was just the witness testimony about him being the last person seen to be with GY? But I do agree that he’s unlikely to be the person responsible for killing GY. I get the feeling that he may be an accessory to it but not the actual perpetrator. Hence his remorse. Truck driver who replayed the whole ordeal with another child is top of my list. Why would he do that as soon as GH’s return was made known? To send the Police back on the trail with Piano Teacher (to make sure he stays silent)? Taxi driver is also on my radar. The fact that he opted to bury Stalker straight away instead of just reporting the accident to police (he hit him unintentionally? Stalker just walked out into the path of the taxi) was suspicious. But he couldn’t run down GH when asked to by Stalker so I doubt he would be willing to kill a little girl intentionally either. Could he also be an accessory?
Whose child is Stalker? Who are his parents? Could he be the child of truck driver?
Kalo mesimeri dear @nrllee!
WonTak didn’t have in the past such urges. The reason he has anger management issues is that he is angry with his father who supposed to kill his best friend’s twin sister. He most likely grow up bottling up lingering regrets, anger and other emotions that made him as an adult to be violent.
I don’t think WT confessed to the police that he saw his father with those bloody clothes. He only wrote that to GH in his letter, as you have already said.
You are right about your suspicions. Those characters are all shady for several weird behaviours.
I could say that Stalker’s family could be that couple with the abusive husband, we saw back in the earlier episodes. OR someone who is not revealed yet.
Isn’t it weird that the Police didn’t recognize him by his surname after the incident with Chef Lee? Could that mean that his immediate family is not in the area any longer?
I think the Show will answer these questions based on what we have seen so far!