Episode title: The Savior of Destruction
The title is an oxymoron. How can someone be considered a savior and protector when he wreaks destruction? To save and protect is the opposite of to destroy and ruin. But oh well…we get who the title refers to.
1. It’s Guwon.
His name means “salvation” and DoHee regards him as her savior. His dreams, however, reveal that he hadn’t been her savior in the past.
It begins when he declares himself in love with Wolsim (or the Joseon version of DoHee). If he expects her to rejoice in his confession – far from it. She rejects him outright.
GW: I love you, Wolsim. I thought that you felt the same way.
DH: It’s time to wake up from this dream. The most foolish human emotion is love.
GW: I don’t mean this lightly. I would like to marry you.
DH: We can’t get married. Given my class, I can be your concubine at best.
GW: Let’s elope. If we run away —
DH: We can’t run away from the world forever. As long as the world remains the same, so will our fate.
And then DoHee recounts what happened to her friend in Hanyang. The friend had been in a romantic liaison with a nobleman, but she committed suicide. From that experience, DoHee learned that the class difference is too big of a hurdle.
DH: Contrary to popular belief, love can’t save a person. It only weakens us and drags us into the depths of misery.
Unfazed, GuWon vows to make her change her mind.
GW: I’ll show you that love can save a person. If we must sink into the depths of history, I’d gladly do so with you.
Ahhh. The idealism of youth!
GuWon becomes acquainted with Catholicism. I must point this out, though. He dabbles in the faith as if it was a new ideology. There’s a clear difference between faith and ideology. I’ll explain in a bit.
He excitedly tells Wolsim/DoHee about Christianity.
GW: I found something incredible!
He produces the book “Seven Virtues and Vices of Catholicism.” Lol. That should have been a red flag for us, Catholics. Instead of the Bible, which we Catholics consider the Word of God, it’s a treatise on the religion that entices him to the faith. He believes in the religion, not because of who Jesus is and what Jesus has done, but because it presents a worldview that’s more accepting and tolerant than Confucian philosophy. Do you get it?
GW: This is Western learning, isn’t it?
DH: That’s right. This book says that all humans are born equal. Isn’t that amazing? Here, take a look.
Tsk tsk tsk. To him, what’s incredible about Catholicism is that it teaches that humans are born equal. No. What’s incredible about our faith is that “Christ has died. Christ is risen. And Christ will come again.” We acclaim it at every mass. It’s the “mysterium fidei” or mystery of our faith.
Then GuWon and DoHee begin attending congregation. They read books — which again isn’t the Bible, mind you – but books expounding on the doctrines and practices of Catholicism. They think that converting to Catholic will solve their problem. They naively assume that switching from Confucianism to Christianity will somehow miraculously transform their world. To me, this is like imagining that repainting the dark walls of a WINDOWLESS room with white paint will give them a SUNLIT room.
In a voiceover, GuWon explains, “We were in love, but we had been struck by the class barrier. To us, the new learning that spoke of equality seemed like salvation.”
Sorry! The Christian faith doesn’t work that way. He’s conflating faith with ideology.
GW: (reading more textbook, NOT the Bible) “The Lord is the ancestor of all beings and the creator of all things. Therefore, all descendants of the Lord may protect themselves by relying on his Love.”
DH: If we all are equal as the Lord’s children, shouldn’t we all speak the same way regardless of class?
GW: That’s right.
DH: Yi-Sun-ah.
GW: Say that again.
DH: (practicing) Seo YiSun, you little brat!
GW: Who knew being talked down to would feel so good.
DH: I hope this will spread throughout Joseon. Then everyone will be addressed by their first name and treated with respect.
Facepalm emoji here. The teachings of Christ have been reduced to an etiquette book on proper address and manners.
Now, let me stop here to discuss this, because there’s lot of viewers who won’t question this or will accept what they watch in this kdrama as gospel truth.
I totally get GuWon and DoHee’s fascination with their newfound religion. Compared to Confucianism and its strict emphasis on societal order and family hierarchy, the Christian perspective is very liberating. We’re all children of God; we’re all brothers and sisters in Christ.
However, they don’t get that the Catholic faith isn’t a political theory. They approach it as if it was a instruction on how to govern and reorganize the secular world and turn it into an earthly paradise. No. Christianity isn’t like communism, fascism, Marxism, socialism, capitalism, and the other ideologies.
What differentiates the Christian faith from a political school of thought is that at the heart of it is “the encounter with an event, a person.” It’s intrinsically a personal relationship with God and his only Son, Jesus.
I’ll have to quote the words of the late Pope Benedict XVI, a man whom I admired greatly.
“God is love, and he who abides in love abides in God, and God abides in him” (1 Jn 4:16). These words from the First Letter of John express with remarkable clarity the heart of the Christian faith: the Christian image of God and the resulting image of mankind and its destiny. In the same verse, Saint John also offers a kind of summary of the Christian life: “We have come to know and to believe in the love God has for us”.
We have come to believe in God’s love: in these words the Christian can express the fundamental decision of his life. Being Christian is not the result of an ethical choice or a lofty idea, but the encounter with an event, a person, [emphasis added] which gives life a new horizon and a decisive direction. Saint John’s Gospel describes that event in these words: “God so loved the world that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should … have eternal life” (3:16).
Source: “Deus caritas est.” December 25, 2005, the Solemnity of the Nativity of the Lord.
The way I see it, once we reduce Jesus into a theory or a narrative on…say, how to live with our neighbors, how to stop climate change, or how to invest our money…then it becomes an ideology. I hope you all get this.
To continue –
GW: When that day comes, we’ll be able to get married.
DH: When do you think that day will come?
GW: Wolsim. I’d like to pass the state examination. Rather than waiting for the world to change, I’d like to change it myself.
DH: (smiles approvingly at him)
In retrospect, GuWon says, “Perhaps we believe din each other more than anything. We were quickly swept up by the fragile yet perilous belief that we could be happy together and infected each other with the conviction. Little did we know the dire consequences that awaited us.”
Before he leaves for Hanyang, he gives her a cross to wear around her neck.
BTW, do you know what the difference is between a cross and a crucifix? A crucifix is a cross with Jesus nailed on to it. In Catholic churches, there’s a crucifix hanging at the altar, not a cross, as a reminder that Jesus’ sacrifice for us.
GW: I’ll come back safely and marry you. The last thing I see before I die will be your face.
DH: (smiles)
GW: (handing her the cross) Something to remember me by while I’m away.
He puts it around her neck.
Whoopsie! This tells me that he doesn’t know the significance of the cross. Wearing a cross is a reminder to bear life’s burdens like Jesus did and to share in His suffering. Jesus carried his own cross to Golgotha where He was then crucified. By tying the necklace around DoHee’s neck, GuWoon marks her as a Catholic. She bears the mark of Christ. That’s how she’ll be identified as a follower of the religion and consequently, martyred for her faith.
DH: I’ll never remove it until you come back. Please don’t forget me.
GW: I would rather forget myself than forget you.
This moment reminds me of the Old Couple promising not to forget each other even after death.
To cut a long story short, she’s killed in the purge of Catholics (historically, this is called SinYu Persecution), and he goes on a rampage and kills off everyone attending her public execution. He commits suicide and so his parting words to her became prophetic. The last thing he did see before he died was her face.
But before he dies, he vows to separate himself from God forever, saying “If heaven is where God dwells, I refuse to go there.”
After this dream revelation, GuWon realizes that he’s the “Savior of Destruction.”
GW: I killed you. My faith caused her death.
I guess he’s forgotten what he told DoHee when she blamed herself for her parents’ death. Back then, he said, “Humans tend to blame themselves when misfortunes strike their loved ones.”
Though it’s admirable of him to take responsibility, in this case, he didn’t kill her. Nor was it his religion that caused her death. It’s other human beings who killed her. Their fear, animosity, and distrust toward the new religion spreading through the land caused her death.
2. The confrontation between Guwon and the faux god
Nope. Nice try, screenwriter. She’s nothing like the Christian God. She’s more like an amalgamation of Korean folklore, shamanism, Confucian, Buddhist, and Christian deities. She’s grotesque.
Faker: So you unlocked your memories.
GW: I did. I killed myself so I wouldn’t end up where you were. But you turned me into a demon.
Faker: I needed a worker. Not just in heaven but also in hell. When your grudge against humans met the needs of God, a demon was born.
This is so wrong in many levels I’m getting a headache just thinking of it. Let me rip it in three parts; I must finish this report before bedtime.
a. God doesn’t need “workers.” He’s omnipotent. He has unlimited powers. He can do anything He wants, without requiring mortal help. Duh.
b. God doesn’t WANT anybody to go to hell.
What the hell is wrong with this screenwriter?? Doesn’t he do his research? There are at least three parables which highlight God’s infinite love and mercy for sinners.
One, the parable of the shepherd who goes after the lost sheep (aka the sinner). Leaving his 99 sheep, he searches high and low for the ONE lost sheep.
Two, the parable of the woman who looks for the lost coin (aka the sinner). Although she still has 9 silver coins left, she lights a lamp and sweeps the house and looks for that one lost coin.
Three, the famous parable of the father and the prodigal son (aka the sinner). The son asks for his inheritance even before his father is dead, then squanders all the money. When he can no longer survive a life of destitution, he decides to return to his father’s house to ask for forgiveness. Guess what his father does? Instead of slamming the door on this ungrateful son, the father runs out to meet him, hugs him, and orders a feast to celebrate his return. Why? “Because this son of mine was dead, and has come to life again; he was lost, and has been found.”
See what I mean? God does not behave despicably like this faux goddess. This faux goddess rejoices in GuWon’s downfall and turns him into an instrument of evil for her use.
c. Where’s the love? The Christian God is about love. “God so loved the world that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.”
Seriously, this.
GW: How could you reward my faith with such a tragic death?
Faker: Faith is an inherently dangerous thing. Perhaps more dangerous than anything else.
No again.
This screenwriter strikes out each time here.
Do you remember that often quoted passage about love? It begins with, “Love is patient, love is kind. It is not jealous….” Well right before that famous passage, it says this,
“If I speak in human and angelic tongues, but do not have love, I am a resounding gong or a clashing cymbal. And if I have the gift of prophecy and comprehend all mysteries and all knowledge; if I have all faith so as to move mountains but do not have love, I am nothing. [emphasis added] If I give away everything I own, and if I hand my body over so that I may boast but do not have love, I gain nothing.”
Additionally, the ending of that passage goes like this, “So faith, hope, love remain, these three. But the greatest of these is love.”
This faker is so wrong about God that if I were God, I’d sue her for defamation hit her with a thousand lighting bolts for blasphemy. Lol.
GW: Don’t you even feel guilty? How can you not feel guilty when even lowly humans can?
Faker: Who are you so angry with, me or yourself? Or could it be because of your fear of fate repeating itself. That you’ll end up making her suffer again?
GW: What are you talking about?
Faker: As I said, fate is bound to repeat itself. That must be why your tattoo transferred. That got you two entangled so that the misfortune could strike again.
I’m calling BS on this as well.
No, the Christian God doesn’t wish evil upon humans.
No, I said this already. Catholics do NOT believe in fate. We believe that when God created us, He gave us the gift of free will. We are not controlled by fate; we make our own destiny and pray that His divine salvation for us will be fulfilled.
No, our God isn’t perverse and malicious like this one. She abandons GuWon to his fate and gloats that he’s about to endure hardship all over again. We believe that when God leads us through painful and difficult times, He’ll always be by our side.
GW: Shut up!
He pounds the table with his fist and rose petals burst out.
Faker: It’s a fate you created. You’re simply paying for what you’ve done.
Ha! I don’t where the screenwriter got this notion of god, but definitely, not from us, Catholics.
For us, God is love. And this is love, from Corinthians 13.
Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.
3. On Noh DoGyeong
I have to mention him. It’s only after his confrontation with his mother, that I became aware of the fact that, in his own way, he too is a savior of destruction.
DG: I saved the world. I shed blood for all of you.
Mother: DoGyeong. Hang in there a little longer and your dad willing et you out of here. So take your medicine regularly. And take care of —
DG: (snickering) You knew everything, didn’t you. You knew everything…but turned a blind eye. You only care about yourself.
Mother: DoGyeong.
DG: I took the bullet for you, Mother. I protected you. You’re the real evil one.
Mother: (swallowing) I’ve been good all my life. That’s why I’m not being punished.
DG: Then me? What about me? What did I do wrong?
Mother: You disobeyed your father. You didn’t live the way he wanted. That’s why you’re being punished. You deserve it. It’s your fault.
DG: (sobbing)
He loses it and has to be dragged out by the prison guards. His last words to his mother, “It’s your turn now.”
He’s a savior of destruction. Meaning, he protected his mother from his father’s destructive ways. Sukmin took out his anger and frustration on his son, instead of his wife.
4. GuWon’s and Madam Ju’s encounter
At this point, I’m too tired to care. I’m sure the screenwriter has something up his sleeve and aims to astonish us. Whatever.
Help, @GB. If you can see this, I need your input, too, since you are a bona fide catechist. I’m not. 🙂
Thanks.
Kalimera @Packmule3!
When I saw Episode 12 and how “that” Goddess mistreating JuWon I immediately wrote about it on week’s thread. I just did so philosophically speaking. I am pissed off and this has nothing to do with the actress, as I have written. At least I know I was not the only one.
P.S. If you want me to repost that comment here let me know!
Yes, please repost your comment here, dear @Cleopatra. Thanks!
🙂 Yes, I agree. We aren’t bashing the actress. We don’t conflate the actress and the role she plays. There’s a difference between the two.
🤪 I remember in that drama site I used to frequent, one of the dumbest rules was you can’t bash the characters. Evidently, the readers, fangirls and the moderators equate a character ANALYSIS with character ASSASSINATION of their favorite actor. (facepalm!) I had to argue that a critical analysis of a character is totally different from criticizing the actor and should be allowed. 🙄Wonder if their attitude has changed by now.
@Packmule3!
I will so shortly! 🙂
What? Is this for real? 🙄 I agree with you this is one of the dumbest rules I have ever heard…
Anneyong! I am reposting this here. I have already posted it to the Main thread of Episodes 11 & 12 but it is more relevant here, since our Queen @Packmule3 did an detailed analysis of her own.
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As I wanted to write in the previous thread, but I didn’t have the time, nor the mood, it is something we have also discussed when we were watching DAYS.
As in “Doom At Your Service”, this Goddess is not a perfect being, she is rather imperfect and I don’t like how she treats humanity nor Jeong GuWon.
I find her lacking Love and she rather hold grudges. She doesn’t have sympathy and she mocks Jeong GuWon for what he sees in the world.
Since she is not a Goddess of Love and she is not acting like one, then we should take her as an imperfect being, that didn’t made the Cosmos herself. That is I wanted to write.
She didn’t make the Cosmos, but she was made to be in charge.
That means two things, another Divine Being built the Cosmos like Aristotle said in Physics about “το πρώτο κινούν ακίνητον” or “the unmoved mover”
or
if we take Plato into the mix, and talk about the Theory of the Form (Metaphysics) and his Ideal, human beings can perceive via our senses the illusions of the physical world, while the “Ιδέες” / Idea that are the real essences and deal cannot be perceived.
So, If I make a creative synthesis of both, I can say that in this dramaverse the Go(o)ddess is really an illusion or imitation of a Goddess.
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Now, that I have cleared this misconception about the imitation of a Goddess I will say that the jakkanim choose a rather cruel past life / fate for Do Do Hee and Jeong Gu Won. I also dislike the way she / he is handling the Goddess to be like, but that's just me.
At the same time, I was thinking that I could also write down about free will / "αυτεξούσιον" from a philosophical point of view, since I have done a comperative analysis regarding three different viewpoints for my Philosophy module, back when I was doing my degree. But on another thought, I refrained myself, because I didn't want to make it too academic here.
What is a fact though is:
This dramaverse is rather lacking in its Divine Beings.
The Devil Gu Won has more empathy for humanity than his Boss. Not that is bad per se, but leaves matters open to an audience that is not familiar with Christian Theology, Philosophy and so on.
Am I too academic here? Maybe I am, but misconceptions do happen when someone doesn't know much about a subject. Anyway, I shouldn't be thinking that much over a show, right? I am not the official jakkanim… 😊
I dropped this show at episode 8 not for any particular reason other than I lost interest in viewing it for myself. However, I’ve continued to read your write ups and discussion. I do appreciate you @pm3 for taking the time to correct and explain where the screenwriter veered away from truth. Guwon latching on to this “textbook” reminds me of people today who latch on to Joel Osteen and his prosperity gospel. The only positive to all of this writers’ wrongness might be that it makes it clear to the viewer this is nothing like the actual gospel and doctrine Christian’s truly believe and adhere to
“My Demon” logline, as the producer got it on his desk:
After drinking too much Soju, a demon is convinced that an old hobo woman is God.
@Cleopatra,
Isn’t it interesting that we both deplored this fake deity for the same reasons though we used different approach?
Yes, without love, it’s “no bueno!”
I haven’t seen a kdrama screenwriter who could create a good approximation of heaven like C.S. Lewis (The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe) and J.R.R. Tolkien (“Lord of the Rings”) did in their works. The world- building will have an internal flaw, inconsistent rule, dystopian society, or despotic deity.
Not only the deity in “Doom at Your Service” but also the deities (or what passes off as deities) in “Goblin,” “Angel’s Last Mission,” “Bulgasal,” “ExtraOrdinary You,” and “Hotel Del Luna.”
Hi @pkml3, sorry for not being able to respond… I’ve been mostly out and now I’m sick. Will see how I feel. Hope to at least be at the rewatch tonight.
No worries, @GB!
Get well ❤️🩹 soon now. Are you taking meds? Or doing bed rest?
Hi @pkml3, I’m taking meds and resting as well. I’m supposed to be at a half-day event now, but had to bail because of the virus. Before the medication makes me too sleepy, I thought I’d just add my 2 cents. (Now that I’m re-reading what I wrote it’s a pretty long 2 cents!!! I’ll break it up a bit.)
I always take issue with dramas for wanting to make use of things Christian (or Catholic) without knowing what they are about, and worse, for not caring that they don’t know. In the same way that they should have/would have researched how diseases are to be diagnosed and treated for a medical drama, they should have called in individuals who really know and love the Christian faith (or in the case of this show, the Catholic faith) to run the script by and to edit it with. Heheheh! They should have hired a properly formed catechist!
I feel that because the Christian Churches (the Catholic Church, in particular) are pretty tolerant, many think that they can run roughshod over any matters of faith and not get persecuted for it. Hence the Church(es) are always easy pickings to take from, to add to dramas to enhance an idea in any which way show pleases, to serve the plot or theme, without caring that the faith has been sorely mis-represented. (Continued…)
(Continued…) You are correct, @pkml3, in the matters of faith that you brought up. The Christian God is foremost a community of persons whose nature is love. God for us is the community of the Holy Trinity, made up of God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit, in constant loving relationship.
In the Plan of God, all are offered the opportunity to enjoy everlasting life (hence this Show’s idea of equality). The story of Creation shows what God’s intent has been for all time. In the unbounded, immensity of God’s love, He offers a share of His everlasting life to humankind, and even something His nature and likeness, so that we too, if we wish, can be united with God, to enjoy perfect joy in His Kingdom (one of the images of this is the Garden of Eden). This should have been the point about which Gu Won got all excited. Just being equal with other humans is great, but what God is about, was to make us god-like, by how we live and the choices we make (not easy, but worth it!) He should have been ecstatic about finding out that the Kingdom of God/Heaven was possible for him and Do Hee, if he embraced the full truth of the faith. (Continued…)
(Continued…) God gave gifts, however humankind exercised their free will to reject what God offered. And so we have God working out His plan to include our salvation (from our wrong choices, our choice to reject God, and consequently, eternal life). In the New Testament of the Holy Bible, we see that Jesus, who is God the Son, came to clarify humankind’s understanding of whom the Person God is. Instead of being merely judgmental or punitive, Jesus showed by how He lived and through parables and his acts (miracles), that God is foremost a loving God, desirous of forgiving, wanting us to have fullness of life, and is overjoyed to welcome back any sinners who wish to return.
The parables that @pkml3 mentions (The Lost Sheep [I prefer calling it the Found Sheep], The Lost/Found Coin and the Prodigal/Found Son or rather a better name… The Loving Father, are the very 3 we reflect on each time we prepare ourselves to once again be in more right relationship with God. [Sidenote: The Prodigal Son could actually be called The Prodigal Father, because of his generous, wasteful love for his wastrel of a son LOL.) But these tell us that this is the way God loves.
All the dramas that depict a Christian God being mean, petty, vindictive, etc… are way off the mark. (Continued…)
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Yes, what is incredible about our Catholic faith is that God did not remain high and mighty in His distant heaven, but that He chose to come to be one like us, living/celebrating/suffering/dying as we do and hence raising to godliness, our normal daily living/celebrating/suffering and dying. He accepted an unfair death with all the horrors of torture and rejection, so that we in our sufferings can unite our pain with his. He rose from the dead to conquer death (and sin) once and for all, resurrecting to new life in a new body, so that when we die, our souls do not ‘stay dead’ and so we too will have new bodies and new life when the Kingdom of God is fully realised. That is the time we call Parousia, when Jesus Christ will come again. Yes, it is called the Mystery of our Faith that we proclaim.
We are called (invited) to enter into a relationship with God. It is both personal and communal. God first loves us, gives us everything we need (not want… NEED) and invites us to respond. When we respond in love for Him, we also need to love our fellow human beings and ourselves as well (hence killing others and suicide are not the thing!) This is not an ideology, but a way of living, intentionally. (Continued…)
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The cross and crucifix remind us of how an instrument of torture became the sign of the greatest love of all. “Greater love has no one than this, that a person will lay down his life for his friends.” (New American Bible, John 15:13). It includes not just the happy end where one takes a shorter more direct route to heaven, but also the fact that we walk our life’s journey with our own cross, with all possible ups/downs of life.
I dropped this show when the grotesque woman showed up. I didn’t even know at that time that she was supposed to be a god of some kind, but her appearance and hint of being supernatural, on top of other random stuff in the first episode or so made me stop watching. If Show wants to ‘make’ a god, it should at least have chosen more fitting attributes for her. What kind of god is the character if she/he is lacking at least being all powerful.
Her enjoyment of other’s suffering or of making use of humans and bringing about their downfall makes her sound more like she is a demon herself. She should not be accorded the title, ‘god’. (Continued
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@pkml3 @Cleo
The Saviour of Destruction (or Saviour from Destruction)? Since it’s the former, the title for Gu Won sounds like he destroyed with the excuse that he ‘saved’ by doing so, and that he glorifies destruction and would preserve it. In other words, he saves nothing and should not be called a saviour at all.
Thanks @Cleo for pointing out how drama gods are most wanting/lacking in aspects that should make them gods. Since they lack what is godly, they are actually merely imperfect beings with some powers.
Thanks @pkml3 and @Cleo for continuing to watch this Show (which might become a hate-watch for you!) and for continuing to analyse and point out its flaws.
The issue always is that viewers who do not go beyond imbibing messages from Shows, continually receive and naively accept the wrong concepts of (in this case) the Catholic faith. If Show insists on bringing in things of a specific religion, it should have had the integrity to keep to what’s true and not twist bits of info to suit its plot.
Oh,… one more point about our Catholic faith being communal, … we include in our understanding of God’s inclusiveness, not only those who are living now, but also those who have passed away, and even those who are yet to be born. At every Holy Mass, we join our praise and prayer with the whole Church throughout the world and beyond. That’s how wide, deep and vast God’s love is, and we strive to be more like Him.
(The End for Now) 🙂
Get well @GB. 🙏🏼❤️
True what you said, do dramas even try to gather facts about the Catholic faith.
@agdr03, I feel that the RC faith just makes an easy whipping dog, plot enhancer, whatever. The only Show I did not mind too much that the RC faith was being portrayed was in The Guest (the exorcism was quite authentic) and May I Help You (FL’s cousin was a priest and she kept going to him for the Sacrament of Reconciliation but it was more for counseling LOL.)
Oh yeah I remember the cousin Priest in May I Help You. 😃
True, it’s so easy to distort truth about the RC faith in dramas. Sad.
@agadr03, is it dinner time or past dinner for you already?
I’m already thinking of having tea!
Just right at dinner time @GB. 😃
But I’m running late in cooking the miso glazed marinated salmon that I did because we’re waiting for my eldest to come from the gym.
Have your tea. I love my tea. I have it lunch, dinner and in between. ☺️
@agdr03 It’s matcha peppermint tea!! 😉😋😂
Oh that’s quite a mix for me. Peppermint with matcha. 😃
@Packmule3,
Kalimera. I agree with you that the deities I have encountered so far, since I haven’t watched all the shows you have mentioned, are not well written.
I don’t know if that is a cultural thing. I mean the jakkanims are building their worlds and their deities in a way they are familiar of.
When I saw that illusion goddess spewing nonsense it made me mad. Especially in the latest episodes, her true face is revealed.
I am very interested in cosmogony. I have also studied the ancient greek philosophers, so, I made my approach from a philosophical point of view. Let’s say the Greek spirit in me protested with what I was watching.
Yes, without love, it’s “no bueno”.
I can only talk about J.R.R. Tolkien, so I agree with what you said about his good approximation of heaven. I need to check about C.S. Lewis. 🙂
Unnie,
I really like Do Do Hee and Jeong Gu Won’s love story. That’s why I am continue watching it.
I don’t like how the illusion Goddess is acting and the fact that they made her a divine being that lacks love and empathy. As @Arihsi said in the main thread, she is not a beacon of light and I added no hope.
Also, when you see the latest episode, where Father confronts Gu Won as the devil, he says if you exist, then God exists too.
The thing is what kind of God really exists? It is like a joke here.
The Goddess is nothing alike the benevolent God, Father believes that exists. That part also creates an oxymoron.
I saw this in a post about memorable quotes. It made me think of this post and discussion. Credit to the author and to the person who remembered it.
“Black, white, rich, poor, or mean as a dog- a carpenter’s son I know came to help everyone, even those who don’t change. And that’s what we’re supposed to do. Love the unlovable.” ‘And Then She Was Gone’ by Lisa Jewell. Pretty sure I read this in 2020 when I was feeling annoyed with people, needed the reminder