Oh wow @pkml3, that rendition of the song had me tearing up! I looked it up. Here’s a Pansori 101 with English subs. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5TN0G6MqHs

I really hope that we start off Episode 7 with our OTP acknowledging that they are from the future… with no dilly dallying about it!

Thanks for the warning @pkml3! What on earth was he doing!!! He left his compatriots in shock LOL. But he got the team the winning score twice!

I loved how the girl (the real pro singer) was trying to hide behind one of the guys so that she couldn’t see him dance LOL. Her jump back and cringe was a sight to behold. They actually asked each other if Na In Woo was always like that LOL. Their expressions of horror were the best!

It will be the mark of his acting chops if he can convince us that he’s this super serious CEO person who only slowly unveils his lighter side because of ‘lurve’. LOLOL.

OMG I.cannot.listen.to.this.without.tearing.

This pansori rendition is so deeply mournful it sounds so much like a wailing threnody.

One comment was spot-on; her traditional way of singing sounds like the songs you sing to send away the dead

Browsing over on m d L. A number of posters barely know who pmy is. Yes they are the newbies.😀

I am like that too. There are so many shows that have stayed forever on my to watch list. Many of them are sageuk Or many episode family dramas. I have enjoyed watching some of the older classics- lovers trilogy, summer scent, Save the last dance for me, My girl,mwarang…

Sorry to hijack the thread, but @packmule3, I just tried to access the main page and got the webpage of words again. At least this time it’s mostly garbage words (or another language, I have no way of knowing).

I was able to access this thread from my email notification.

Glad I could help!

As for MMH, I watched ep 7 today. I’m both thrilled with the show’s pace but worried that things are happening so fast that the later part of the drama will suffer. I want to say more but I’m never sure how spoiler-ey to be in the comments.

I will admit that I succumbed to temptation and have been reading the webtoon, but I won’t be comparing them except to say that I’m liking the drama a LOT more than the webtoon.

@MM, @Stacy,
Good to know that the drama is more enjoyable than the webtoon.

I found Ep 7 interesting and that there was progress since they have acknowledged that they are both from the future.

SPOILERS for those who have not watched Ep 7

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But I really wanted Ji Hyuk to tell Ji Won that he had died as well, so that she’d consider that he, too, needed looking out for.

It’s all well and good that JW’s father seems to have taken on some powers of the gods, since he can assign people a 2nd life and sent back Ji Hyuk to protect JW, but that’s kind of one-sided and not fair, is it? Who’s going to protect Ji Hyuk who’s due to die about 1 week after JW?

At the moment JH seems to think that he’ll live for 10 years, ensure that JW is alright and lives beyond her death date, and then that he will die at the same time as he did in the past.

I felt that JW’s unquestioning acceptance that JH fell asleep and woke up in 2013, rather odd… surely a person has to die in order to be living a second life!! She should have asked how merely sleeping could get him into the same predicament or into a 2nd life like her.

I’m a little amused that JH’s sussing out Eun Ho, to check if he’s good ‘husband’ materials for JW. I have to admire JH for gritting his teeth and allowing Eun Ho to make headway with JW, when JH has already confessed to liking her himself.

Kalimera Everyone,

I wanted to say Hi. I will write some more laters and read you all!

Just watched ep 8. I find JW’s emotional struggle realistic. Even though she knows the truth, has faced it in the most harsh way possible, she still grieves. She wants to think that maybe SM will change, even though JW knows she won’t.

I’m very glad that the reveal happened when it did, because JW was right – she needs someone to talk to, and there’s no one who would understand better than JH. I enjoyed their interactions throughout ep 8.

Even though it was mainly to manipulate SM, it was nice watching JW fight back during the competition and even tell SM how she really feels.

Hi @OAL, @STacy, @Cleo, @MM, @pkml3
Sometimes it’s actually a relief that side characters are more 2-D and simple like our baddies, MH and SM. We don’t have to waste too much energy feeling bad for them as they dig their own graves.

Thanks @OAL, your comments gave me more heart to dive into Ep 8. Having read enough comments on other shows, I suddenly recognised what horrid Soo Min was doing to Ji Won: victim blaming. She said that it wasn’t wrong for her to take what belonged to Ji Won, because JW yielded them to her. It was JW’s fault for making her take it for granted that whatever was JW’s was also hers. What a classic argument of a victim-blamer. I was looking it up and saw an article on it as one of the elements that narcissists engage in. SM could be something else but I’m thinking she exhibits narcissism among other things.

And she has amazing ways of manipulating other’s feelings. That letter she wrote to JW was so sweet. Even JW says that if she had not seen the end, she’d have been swayed by the apology and wish to make up.

But it was great that JW fought back and told her to her face that she had begun to hate her. (And this was just after that picnic where she’d said they were all friends LOL)

Ad Hoc Comments as I Watched
JW’s dad did her a great favour in sending someone who cares for her to her side in the 2nd life so that she would not be alone.

JW and JH are so at home with JW able to confide in him, that she can even mention how he pats her hand so affectionately without embarrassment. I’m glad we don’t get the cringe and pause scene, but instead JW able to speak about her feelings of loneliness. This leads to JH being grateful to be able to listen to and speak with JW.

What a crappy proposal MH had prepared for her in the past, and to think he knew she’d accept something even less than mediocre shows how she had undermined her own value. It’s sad to consider that there are some who are so lonely that they would minimise (as opposed to magnify?) themselves so much, so as to keep a friend.

And then we see the proper rendition of what a proposal ought to be, with JH’s influence and loads of drones to make words in the sky. Loved it. I personally dislike public proposals, but I love seeing lights in the sky.

Some scenes on their own, but probably worth noting
We see Eun Ho’s memory of what drunk JH had said to him. JW didn’t want to see his face, LOL, but yet he kept going to that restaurant because Eun Ho was there. Poor JH cannot totally confide in JW so he gets drunk near Eun Ho and says cryptic things to him LOL. JH thinks he will die in 10 years time, and therefore EH is the way to go for JW so that she will have a long and happy marriage. That’s another plot point that requires and interesting twist to solve the OTP issue.

Then there’s the strange scene of Team Leader Yong Joo Ran thanking boss Lee Suk Joon. It was strangely slotted in out of the blue. He listened to her trail off her thanks and gave her advice. She should complete her sentences and remember the good things people say about her as well as the bad. He had chosen her for her competence, and she should remember that. I guess Show wants us to see him in a less negative light. He’s the one chosen by Chairman Yoo to be JH’s man.

We also get to see him reporting to Chairman Yoo, and the decision to invest in stocks of the aerobotics arm that would become lucrative with the rising interest in drones. I like that this goes well with our real world where in the early 2010s drones were gaining popularity commercially. The Writer(s) tied Show to solid history, which is good.

Saying hi and also to say I’m joining you all here because I’ll be following this drama as it comes out and gonna catch up with the comments when I can. I speed watched the first 6 episodes actually but loving the process so far.

I like the fact that JW is still soft and kind, feels guilty while trying to take revenge, but goes ahead with it anyways.

The scene of the OTP in the pond gave me all the feels😍 The dialogues in this drama are quite meaningful – “I want to be your land” (poor JW couldn’t correlate it to what she herself had said before), and the dialogue where JW says that she will preserve her “allowance” from her father and not spend it.

@Cleo
you are right about the romantic tension in that scene, as qwll as the other one in the forest.

JH has the potential to become a Best Drama Boyfriend, I think, if he continues this way. I like that even though this is a female-centric drama, our ML’s conflicts are equally important. He got a second chance to protect JW, who doesn’t want to be shielded. Also he has always been in love with her, but cannot proceed e en in his second life knowing he will die in ten years.

@OAL
I agree with you about the undercurrent of deep philosophical thoughts that the drama makes me think too. If we had a second chance at life, with the hindsight, can we change situations by stopping things that led to those situations from happening?
Or will fate happen anyways?

The coincidences continue. I liked how they used the kitten to cat. Ml saved the cat that FL fed. The cat didn’t like people but recognized Ji Won_a.pur leads both need saving from the specter of death. Do they save each other? And some ancillary stuff-ML has classic chaebol issues. We get workplace drama-live the whole product test at supermarket set up when idiot “boyfriend” has to pay allergic customer because he wasn’t paying attention but canoodling with our villainess in a storeroom. What fun! And even more detail with the stock loss. Yikes! The detail in this drama is so amazing. One issue-who goes camping in a dress and heels? Or is this our writer making a hidden statement about time and perception. I’m thinking about Dali’s clicks…

I also need to praise the actress who plays our villainess. She does a great job in making us hate her. She smirks well. Looking forward to her comeuppance. They show that she thinks the bad boyfriend has money. He is a bad investor. The engagement ring was a fake diamond. Just live the details again… He is something of a buffoon.

Thanks for allowing me my musings. So far this drama is a winner to me.

Hi @WE, @grace, @Cleo, @OAL, @Phoenix
Oh, are we headed for Shallow Island already? Heheheheh! I DO notice how often we get to see well muscled chest with heart tattoo to boot!

We have the cute push and pull… Allowance wants to be spent but Spender does not want to lose Allowance.

I was laughing over the Solid Land being mistaken for lamp, lamb or champ… Trust our Hee Yeon to decide it was ‘Solid Lamb’ LOL. Yes, I agree with whomever said that because she loves food so much, she ought to pair up with our Chef Eun Ho.

In the end, JH settled for ‘Champ’ which is really close enough to what he is. He’s a real champ for training JW to take care of herself, for being a sympathetic, helpful, listening gentleman when she confides in him so much and for passing her on to Eun Ho for the long term.

Well without even moving 10 years into the future, we know that Soo Min and MH’s relationship, now that it has it’s rocky, unsolid start, will fare badly if at all. Yes, @Cleo, SM only wants to keep MH away from JW, but does not value him for himself. As I said before, one of the best punishments for these 2 hokey baddies is that they marry each other and have to live with MH’s mother LOL.

@Cleo, I want JH to realise that he could change his fate. We want him to live a long life, but I guess that means that someone else has to die in his place.

Yes I noticed the proposal in the sky… it was really JH’s proposal that JW was seeing. Only she understood the significance of those words and signs. Even the “Will you Marry Me?” was sort of from JH too, since he also wanted her to be his for life.

So much fun, this Show!

Hi @Cleo, even without this drama, I’ve been thinking quite a bit about what I might have done differently if I had the chance. I mentioned it in the 20/20 thread.

I agree that the characters are relatable and that we can sympathise and empathise with them.

I also liked the good advice that comes up now and then, hopefully heard and absorbed by the viewers who are more easily influenced in choice making.

As you put it, I also like that “the story conveys a lot about human relationships and its dynamics and second chances and has a philosophical meaning”. 🤓😆

This kind of Show is worth watching for all these things, its production value and for the good storyline. That it’s also well acted is icing on the cake!

I really wanna say I like this way way better than Perfect Marriage Revenge (not that PMR is bad).

The dramatic irony, the dramatic tension from very real threats (an abusive bf ready to raise a fist to her at the twitch of a switch, and a gaslighting narcissist and pathological liar), and the deep deep pathos from the existential drama of our leads and time travelers.

I find myself bristling with indignation, and wanting to cuss Su-Min & Min-Hwan out in Ep 8 — just when you thought brazen shamelessness has hit a nadir low, the floor cracked. When Ji-won wrested back her winning flag it was so CATHARTIC (*fist pump* moment)

Love all the forest confiding scenes (Ep 8 has all the emotional heavy weightlifting moments where our OTP finds solace in each other and really reveal their hearts). Indeed, it is a lonely journey to walk alone.

I just wish Ji-Hyuk will no longer hold back and disclose WHY he has loved her for so long and how it all started. If you think about it, that last scene of a marriage proposal is really him confession-laundering via the ruse of helping Ji-won in whatever way possible. “Will you marry me?” is his own love confession writ LARGE in code to her.

P.S. Pls go watch Na In-woo in Mr. Queen if you haven’t yet – he is the hottest most powerful SML I have ever seen in a long time.

Unnie,

I have written my thoughts on 20/20 thread as well. I feel that this show should be labeled #MustWatch for all the reasons you also said.

Such stories give you intel of what you should do in life, when things are not going well.

I also like what Ji Hyuk said about his life, it is like a well written novel, with no worries and struggles. Everything is laid on the ground for him and he should just follow obediently, as he did the first time around, in order to become U&K’s CEO. But, even though Jin Hyuk’s life was well written, he was not happy.

Ji Hyuk was not happy because he didn’t do anything HE WANTED TO DO , except from the fact he saved the tiny cat, because Ji Won was feeding him and he also become fond of him. The cat is part of their unseen bonding.

So, we get to see that people without anguish in their lives, that come from good background i.e. families with money and such, have other problems in their lives.

They might be unhappy, because they don’t have passions or vision for the future. They might be lacking a stable and loving relationship. They might not do what they wanted to do, because everyone was watching them, in our case Haraboji and Boss Lee.

So, for Ji Hyuk this second life, is also new and interesting. Ji Hyuk decided to protect Ji Won because he truly loves her. I am glad he confessed that he likes her, before finding out that the inevitable will happen. Still, I believe he won’t die. Of course he won’t!

@pm3, just sent you another email with a screenshot. Got the p*** words just now when I clicked my bookmark for your site.

@GB
I confess I’ve never seen Na In Woo in this light before but in this drama, his role as JH totally gives me Shallow Island vibes, Yes, as we ponder on the deeper philosophies of life that this drama poses, let’s also pause for a moment to appreciate strategic placement of that heart and the soulful gazes 😝

I recently watched this actor in a Brief drama called her bucket list. Not earth shattering but enjoyable and an opportunity to watch him.

Yes Aesthetics is a branch of philosophy I think. 😊

I have never had an issue. I don’t know if this is helpful information. Since I know you have been dealing with this for awhile. I was wondering though if it has something to do with the browser. I use both google and firefox, as well as automatic v p n most of the time.

@Stacy
I have the same issue on both Chrome and Safari, when I access the blog from my email notifications. I’ve been having this issue for more than 2 months now, so I stopped accessing this site from Gmail and searching for it on Google instead to access.

@Cleo thank you for the tip 😊

Kalimera @Phoenix,

The cat will bring them together! 😛
I was wondering that too…If only the cat would talk too! Meow!

@Monmor, @Phoenix and @GB Unnie,

Yes, Aesthetics is a branch of Philosophy, but also has ties with Art.
So, we can admire this specific male beauty as much as we like! Simple as that! 😂🤣

Episode 8 was a good one with a lot of screentime for the villains!
Park Min Young is really good at acting here. For me, she was often a sure actress in the past, pretty but more the feeling of a cotton pullover.

I had a good laugh at any silly detail. Like how Min Hwan spit his soju on the ground while making a wedding proposal. Or his paper “would you merry me”, with the “e” crossed out and remplaced with a “a”. This sucker didn’t even write a new note for something so important.