Fifteen more minutes to go but I thought I’d come on in to say I’m here. 🙂

Hello @GB, I am here too

Hi @MM and @FF, glad to see you!! Yes, it’s great to be back! It’s 10pm at my end of the world. Let’s start now!!!

Hi @MM, @SD and @GB, shall we start?

Hi @SD! Wow, good to see you here at last.

So we start with Soo Hyun courageously going into the lion’s den, with all that trauma still in her!

@MM, you’re most welcome. I should post the age comparison chart here as well in case the rest missed it. I posted it in the Ep 9 thread.

@GB, yes you should post the comparison here. I need some recap too.

@FF, here’s the link. It’s just a guesswork chart of our protagonists’ ages. I only know the birthdate of JH and the age of HY in 2015. Don’t really know SH’s age.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/19UolqZxTmar2TYOc-YA2LYIWgRvbNXZT/edit?usp=sharing&ouid=107152512466791964570&rtpof=true&sd=true

@WE yes, BB Kim wanted them to fail so that they could take responsibility for his failure (he closed the case in 1999) and be disbanded. But are you watching Episode 9? We’re on Ep 10 today.

@WE, what does ODFTP stand for again?

Oops, found that I was on the wrong episode LOL. I was watching Ep 11. OK back to Ep 10. BB Kim has caught Ahn being sneaky. Ahn’s is a sad story. He was an okay cop but his daughter needed surgery and he needed money so he had to toe the line with BB Kim.

We also see the acting skills of the female lead in these scenes.

Jae Han is his name. Why I always forget….
Flashback in a flashback, all with stretched image. Hug.

@FF, she’s not anyone, she’s detective first!
Yo! Speak and fast! No whinning, no hospital before to find the culcript! JH philosophy. Hard motivation he gives her: be a cop first!

This episode (and Ep 9) are so hard to stop watching long enough to comment. Every second is filled with tension (or in Ep 9 also humor).

@WE, JH is hard towards SH at first and it’s HY who later gets him to be a bit less harsh.

@SD, I enjoy every rewatch I do of this show. I rewatch first and then come here so that I can read and comment more than watch.

Even today she has read eyes, just the idea to remember the time she was kidnaped.

Finally, KH usefull with his profiling ability. ^^

@WE LOL when he stands up to do the profiling everyone looks fed up… because he’d been arrogant before. This time I noticed that he’s humble. He says that he does not have experience out in the field but can give them only theoretical points to work fromm which may or may not help them. I think they took this a bit better than before.

@WE, do you grow tomatoes in your garden?

I really don’t want corpses anywhere in my home or garden … even if they have been rendered into ashes… some Twilight Zone show had a dead child becoming fertilizer!!! Horrendous!!!

@FF, I think the hypnosis did not do much for her or the investigation at first, but perhaps it shook her memories up a bit more so that she had better recall later.

@GB, I can be only at my home of course. I’ve nothing else than a computer to watch dramas. It’s time before dinner, so slowly drinking a glass of whyskey. 😉

@FF There’s something strange about the hypnosis… we only saw her fall down but at the end of the hypnosis she has a very violently terrified reaction that causes the hypnotist to stop the session. This episode we don’t get to see why she reacts this way. We have to wait until later.

@WE, your dinner time is pretty early. Nearer 5.30pm than 7pm?

KH preambles his profile in a clever way to make him and the profile more palatable to the others.

@WE I won’t continue watching if she turns her head 180 degrees.

@MM, yes HY is smart enough to know that he’s not liked.

Aah a good transmission. Loved how JH is so shocked that SH is HY’s Team Leader LOL.

I am struck with how both in the original accounting of her capture and near death and here in the hypnosis session SH has to publicly recount a horrifying episode. I would think, that in and of itself would affect her ability to recall accurately and testify. Especially the first time when they are all huddled around her, all men, all demanding.

Instead of “dead”, the talking shutting down dead.
AWWWWWESOOOOOOMMME!!!!

@WE, yes that walkie talkie was a great side character that we often ignore or forget. It allowed the characters to say so much and enabled them to solve the cases.

@SD, I noticed that too. SH had to always cope as the only woman in a group of many men and she had to be able to hold up well to all the questioning. There was less consideration for victims in the past.

@FF, so likely sociopaths or psychopaths, as these lack empathy. They only know if they suffer and want to avoid it for themselves but cannot transfer this to understanding others’ pain.

@WE, this show makes us feel sorry for the Killer. He was made into a crazy person by the constant ill-treatment of his mother.

Only in a kdrama you start a love story with a psychopath. I bet he will the guy who crushed her phone.

It’s so sad, The girl Killer didn’t know he liked, Yoo Seung Yeon, carried an umbrella and sheltered him to his home. She was kind towards him and liked him but
he didn’t understand this. She’s surprised that he knows her name. I wonder how he knew the names of all his victims.

@WE was anyone’s phone crushed?

LOL @MM. I must say that HY makes an ok profiler since he’s observant. He notes that SH is tense and bothered about being in the vicinity of the Killer, but she stubbornly goes off on her own (again!)

@WE I thought that too about how much the child looked like the adul,the first time I watched.

LOL JH admits to being scared of criminals too. And in this conversation with SH she finds out that he has a metal plate in his right shoulder.

He is such a determined detective. Someone has to catch the criminals… and he keeps at it.

LOL he wonders if she can really become a Team Leader. And the box has only 1 persimmon in it and JH claims he had none of them LOLOL.

I had a computer glitch, now solved, but I need to run off early. I will finish the show on my own and add comments later, if I have any. I found this with W, but with very few other dramas: each rewatch of Signal brings more information. And even with that I am tense each time! This series is so good!

Good to be back watching with you. See you next week.

See you @SD! Yes, every rewatch of this show is good!!!

HY is doing more work now than SH… he’s good at going with his hunches. Now he reads the victim’s journal and finds out that she probably went to convenience stores often.

The time she didn’t go, the Killer had found her having a company dinner. He had been watching for her.

He tried to kill Soo Hyun in the open, so untypical of a serial killer.

Hidden memory (and flashback). ahaha.
I feel like in a known ground.

Oh shit, scene transition with the killer voice.
Soooo good!

@FF I had a busy break as I was sort of on course, but at the same time it was very good.

Bye @WE and Everyone! See you all next week! It was a great rewatch. So happy to be back and able to watch dramas!

@MM, I only realised with a new rewatch that SH had been strangled but was saved just in time.

I had a very enjoyable break on Vancouver Island visiting my son and his wife in their new home. Vancouver Island is beautiful and eating out there is a joy because restaurants are willing to accommodate food sensitivities. And the seafood is delicious!

@GB and others. Perhaps they never did take SH to the hospital afterh she was attacked. If they did , she did not realize she had been strangled- The marks would have been evident.

I can make up a very plausible explanation to myself why she did not know she had been strangled. Traumatic memory loss.And maybe she was just not very receptive to the other indications If there were any that that had happened.

Actually, she would have seen the marks herself.
And the bruising. So she really did just screen it all out. And she is somewhat aware of that, as she indicates When she comes upon the location again, She says something to the effect that there was something She had not wanted to remember. Very Helpful to her that HY Told j h to be Kind to her Because she was going through a rough time.

I am writing this in detail.Because I was thinking it might be a minor plot hole.Or continuity error but I have changed my mind on that. I had written earlier.There are no plot holes in sight in this drama.

@MM, still not the kind of torrential rain that I’d like to have and the other thing is the awning is not as low as we’d like. From what my husband says, there will be splash from the high fall so we still have to place mats or troughs or buckets to keep the water from splashing into the house. The whole reason for the awnings was so that we could keep the door open to get air when it rained. We couldn’t have the awning lower because of the design of the door. *sigh* I’m sure we’ll come up with something.

As for Signal and SH’s strangulation, yes, I came up with that thought that it was so traumatic that her mind put it aside and she ‘forgot’.

Not much in the way of plot holes except if we want to be nit picky about the Killer trying to strangle her in the lane rather than in his own home which was just a few steps away.🧐🤪

@MM Eeeks, what are mosquito wasps!!! They sting and the stings both itch and hurt? I suppose you have to fix that screen door or suffer many intruders.

We’re actually going to put up a mesh to keep mosquitoes out, since we want to keep one of the windows open most of the time. So far so good, no one has complained about getting mozzie bites and the mesh is not up yet.

I guess all that will change when the real rains kick in!!!

@WE, It’s good that you’ve added more here because I also forgot to mention a couple of things that struck me and might as well tag that on to my reply to you:

That’s true about the sub-text. With Jae Han on the radio, Hae Young does not exactly say what he knows. On one hand, he knows that SH suffers from the trauma of the kidnapping. He also knows that Soo Hyun likes JH, and that she’s looking for his corpse. He knows that SH would really value JH’s good opinion and that it would give her strength (to overcome the trauma?). He merely tells JH that telling her how he approves of her determination and her ability to get over the trauma would be a great source of strength for her.

In an undisclosed TIME LOOP, might it be that it was because HY had spoken to JH about this in 2015, that JH in 1999 had given SH that box of persimmons/khakis and encouraged her, hence she did continue as a cop and became a Team Leader?

In the talk between JH and SH, there were also subtext. Instead of telling her not to quit, JH regales anecdotes of being afraid of criminals and getting injured. That’s how SH knows that there’s a metal plate in his right shoulder.

I like how JH says: “You can quit. No one will speak ill of you for it. Think about it carefully and make your choice. But you know, it’s not bad being a cop. You never know. You might become a team leader someday.” LOL (So it could be thanks to HY, that SH became his Team Leader)

Other things I forgot to mention:
We note that when Soo Hyun decides to undergo hypnosis to remember more,
HY discourages it, as it could be harmful and also SH had not even seen the killer’s face. However, we had a prefiguring of this before when without seeing the mugger’s face, Soo Hyun was able to identify the mugger on the motorcycle. So, Show raises our hopes then dashes them when she has the panic attack during the hypnosis. But then she figures that she can find the Killer’s house, and she does. So JH’s comment that they don’t need to see the face to identify the criminal is actually correct.

Separately, I noted that after the previous cases, a new transmission came through for JH and HY. It appears that if HY had no new cold case linked to JH, then there were no transmissions. I come to this conclusion because this time when the transmission starts, JH can immediately guess that the case they are communicating about now will be the current case he is on ie the 1997 Hongwon-dong Black Plastic Bag case.

So, our heroes have figured out that JH’s cold cases would be the ones that HY is supposed to solve in 2015, because that’s when the radio comes alive by itself. They can see the connection in the transmissions but how the walkie talkie knows when to start the transmissions remains a mystery.

I still stick to my guess that JH’s spirit, filled with a sense of justice over the unsolved cases, had imbued the walkie talkie with life, to right the wrongs with a like-minded person in the future. What JH could not solve in his time, HY might be able to do with new investigation methods, latest in forensics, DNA tests and profiling.

Another point of interest that just struck me. The Hongwon-dong murders case that HY and SH solve in 2015, is also going to be the case that JH will solve in 1999. This is the only case that is solved TWICE!

The funny thing is that in our viewing timewise, HY solves it first in 2015, but he will not tell JH who the killer is. Instead, he tells JH to not give up on solving the case so that it does not become a cold case (and 9 other victims will not suffer). In our sequence of scenes, JH continues working on the same case that was already solved by HY in the future, but he does so in the past!!! In the end, the investigation done in 2015 becomes unnecessary! What a delicious paradoxical loop.