Being in an airplane and keeping track of time can be opposing forces!🙂

Hi @MM! Well fortunately I only had to go to the airport to pickup one of the kids. But one thing led to another and I spent far longer there than I intended. I forgot that our time is actually my 10pm and not 9pm. So it’s all good!!

Hello Everyone, have we settled on our next rewatch drama or are we taking a break?

Good morning/evening @GB @WE

Hi @FF

Hi @FF! Not taking a break. We’re going to watch “while You Were Sleeping” by the same Writer Park Hye Ryun. I just did a rewatch of it and it’s so good too!!!

Hi @WE, @SD, @MM and @GB.

Hi @SD! Great to see you here today.

Hi SD.
All team’s here today? I hope I don’t forget someone?

@WE, although I’d like it to be 1 hour earlier, I find that when the rest of you have Daylight Savings time, some of you have to be up extra early, and not all might be able to join in.

We’ll just stick to the same time and I’ll snooze on and off if I have to!!!

@FF, I think you’ll enjoy WYWS.

OK now the prosecution is making his final argument and HS finds out from SH that she has to really do well to convince the remaining jury members to get all 12 to vote for not guilty.

WHy is HS using a microphone when making her closing statement? lol

The story of the magpie, used to accuse the judge!!
Well, jurors would feel guilty.
Anyway, cheating all the way with Soo-Ha validating the arguments. 🙂

HS is under more stress because DY begged her to help save her father. It’s all no thanks to DY who insisted on prosecuting him.

Anyway, now she’s suffering and at last the shoe is on the other foot, so to speak. This experience softens her heart.

Black or white thinking or flexibility? I hope the jury does not buy into the idea that being flexible will mean lawlessnesss.

DY was the one who insisted on taking up this case, now she must have felt so bad to have to prosecute her own father for attempting to kill her mother.

@GB, based on few dramas she did with main villains: they never have redemption arc. Maybe it digs about motivations, but they remains bad until the end. A way to say: evil exists and can’t remand.

@GB, we are about the same pace.

@FF The unanimous vote has swayed the judge. With DY dropping the indictment, there should actually be no more case. I am smiling along with the jury and crying along with Hwang and DY and Shin.

DY finally apologized to HS for her lies 11 years ago. She has come a long way.

@FF so this is one of the themes of the Show – about the cost of not being able to be truthful, and the strength to be truthful even to the extent of admitting one was wrong, acknowledging one’s mistakes, etc along those lines.

As @MM and I discussed before, this Show is about lies and truth. About the justifications for lies or for not admitting the truth.

I think the drama is saying don’t waste one’s time hating someone.

@MM true. It is something that can be applied everywhere.

Hwang confirms that DY is his daughter. I love this scene of Hwang and Shin speaking of choosing not to act on anger and choosing to not waste life on revenge or resentment.

HS recalls her mum’s words. SH who can read her mind puts an arm around her and Shin gives Hwang a head-to-head embrace.

Finally ! Karma HITS.
Wife is leaving Seo !!
But he continues to swallow his soup.
Some last words: not his fault!
He did nothing wrong! Mmpfff.
I did NOTHING WRONG !
CRASH ! Glass breaking on the floor. 😀

@MM LOL everyone is stunned by her outburst but she goes on not knowing why they are staring at her. The Writer manages to interject humour even into a tense situation.

@SD Iwas also rememberng how adamant DY was about applying the law to this case. Something like murder is murder, no shades of gray.

Cha is so cute. He gives HS a good listening ear, knowing that she needs to boast and gloat a bit. Unfortunately for her, Shin starts talking about how he’s sorry Hwang did not get a lawyer like her before and Cha who’s very good at empathy knows that Cha feels bad. He steps in to stop HS from continuing to dig for praise.

Really the nicest person is Cha, but he gets no ‘reward’ in this show.

@FF, here’s the other scene I really like. DY comes to draw her father in hospital. She actually figures that the crayons are hers and they are still soft enough for her to draw with!!! After 11 years!!!

She calls him father, finally acknowledging in public after all that denial before.

Oh shit, the scene in the night-resto.
When Cha explains why he started to study law.
Emotional elevator !! 🙂
AVALANCHE of good-feelings.

@WE LOL good boy Cha gets ready to run before he admits that he shot poop over Cha’s car LOLOL. So he was not all that good. He expressed his resentment against the lawyer, more because he had suffered so much to catch the ‘criminal’. He had practically forced a confession out of the man due to not enough sleep for both of them.

But it was a mistake!!!

How much SH needs praise! be it on the TV news or from her boss/colleagues !

@FF, more than that, Cha sacrificed his ‘reputation’ by telling that story to give Cha the understanding that he had been right and not to feel bad about Hwang’s case, because he had done his best, and had once saved an innocent man as well as Cha himself.

Well, I start my dream scenes starting like a nightmare, but ending as a far worst nightmore. LOL. 😀

@FF SH’s dream scene begins sweet but quickly slips into horror.

Min Jung Kook again!

@MM I think SH has had her abilities not recognised for so many years of her life. Her mum often did not speak nicely to her and she had the trauma of being falsely accused and it was left open ie without it being resolved. So her chance to get praise meant a lot to her.

SH is following HS around because of his bad dream?

In the street restaurant scene we get the peanut gallery again.

Did we cross over to “while you were sleeping?”

Now is the right (dramatic) time for the secret of Soo-Ha’s father to surface to HS.

@MM LOL the dream sequence is suggestive of WYWS isn’t it? So the concept was with this Writer from even this time with IHYV.

@FF, Min assigns blame wrongly and seeks revenge on the innocent. Seo refuses to acknowledge his own wrong doing, while falsely accusing those who are innocent. Don’t know which is a worse villain.

The phone booth scene. In case people doubt Lee Jong-Suk is a good actor, he was completly all-in there. A performance even better than some dramas he made after.

It’s the cliffhanger.
The girl in the hands of the bad guy.
Quite a classic. 😉

I’ve to leave early today.
I wish you alls, all the members of the awesome rewatch team, a good week
See you soon.

HS is being kidnapped by MJK?

@GB, Behind as usual. I saw Min’s face above the storage unit shelf, as he grabs the tools for the next phase of his revenge, and I realized that although he does not seek to change his behavior or redemption, we do see him contemplating it. We see it, briefly, when he is about to kill HS’s mother (I think we even see a flash back to her providing him with seaweed soup for his supposed birthday) and we see it when he contemplates killing the fruit stand woman. Maybe even when he tries to get SH to kill him. So Writer Park provides for us, clear opportunities for Min, the villain, to change his behavior. We see him considering it. But Min always, then makes the choice to continue. We even sort of understand it as the easier path for him. So even though the villain here has no redemptive arch, we know that it was a possibility, even for him.

@WE yes his emotional acting is very good here and the cliffhanger rivals the one where the phone is ringing in her apartment.

@GB Symbolism of the rubber thumb tip through the course of the show?😁

Bye everyone and thenk you for the watch.

@GB I like praise too.

감사힙니다 (Thank you)

Bye @SD!

@MM, no, the significance of the torn rubber thumb for that moment… I’m just asking. Maybe no significance. Things started going wonky for SH and HS from after that time it was torn?

@GB, @MM, isn’t the torn rubber thumb just a device to get HS to look in Cha’s drawer and find the articles written by SH’s father? Writer Park does a good job of introducing the rubber thumb early though. And it is a stand in for HS being outside of the public defender’s office based on her poor personality and then being gradually included. So I don’t know; it may represent something more.

@SD, yes I agree about the rubber thumb. I was just asking for fun! Who knows if we might ‘discover’ a new significance for it… which actually you did. It did symbolise that she was an outsider before, but now she had her own rubber thumb (given by Cha?) and was one of the team (especially now accepted by Shin).

Writer Park’s timing to get her to open Cha’s drawer is well placed.

@GB For my initial response to your First comment about the rubber I’m tip I tried to find a tongue in cheek icon! I was imagining a humorous essay somebody could write About this common office items symbolism In this drama.

Low and behold we are Having some.
Interesting thoughts. This writer also made an issue of posted notes!

@MM, I liked the Post It notes. And the revolving door. And oh…. the old diary! Normal things that take on a greater significance because of how they are used in the Show.

Those Post It notes demonstrated HS’s ‘greed’ to an extent. They were free so she kept helping herself to more each time she passed the lady. She wanted to earn money easily without putting in much effort in the beginning and was pleased to be a public defence lawyer because it gave her a fixed salary. She began by treating all her clients as guilty ie she did not defend them but asked only that their sentences should be mitigated.

The Notes were also a means to communicate with SH. The instructions on them gave him a purpose. They were another way that he ‘heard her voice’.

They also acted as an aid to help SH regain his memories. This is when he started writing on them as well.

And I believe at the end HS also sees them, although I can’t recall if they impact her much.

However, it’s what SH wrote in her old diary that hits her strongly. She also gets to ‘hear his voice or his heart’. And that diary was introduced from the beginning!!! It was put aside and then resurrected during SH’s imprisonment, and resurface at the end. Amazing!

@MM LOL Yes, the ‘tongue out with 1 closed eye’ emoji is when we think we’re being cheeky.

I only recall the lawyers going on a bit about buying coffee. About who gets the specially bought coffee or the machine dispensed type. Shin showed favouritism by whom he bought coffee for.

Shin was another rounded character. He realised that he’d been arrogant, judging others (like HS) and disapproving of them, when he felt that he himself had been a failure when it came to Hwang.

I like how it came full circle to him asking HS for help, after dissing her in the past, and how she really did make a difference in the verdict with SH’s help. It was one of the really satisfying arcs.