106 Comments On “I Hear Your Voice: Rewatch of Finale Ep; Saturday July 19”
salteddust
I will be joining you this Saturday, although I might start a few minutes late as I will be enjoying an early morning, summer walk with a friend. I will miss the first rewatch of “While You Were Sleeping”, as I will be without internet that weekend. Since I may be late this Saturday, I wanted to share this poem upfront. I wrote it a year ago, about my mother’s death 5 years ago, but have been revising it on and off since. The title and topic has not changed and as you can see is tangentially related (“The last time I heard your voice”)
The last time I heard your voice
It is your voice, missing, present
which snags my heart:
the soprano my voice could pitch to
perfectly matched
The sweetness of your voice from far away
clear, bell-like, like Japanese tea cups
which ring when you strike them softly
a chime.
And all those times I did not hear
the melody of your voice, too entangled
in my own thoughts. I weep
remembering those few times I truly heard you,
Remembering the low, pithy, eviscerating opinions
voiced in early morning as your iron control slipped
your intelligence sundered.
Even now, when I think of your life
When I think of your death,
I think of your last greeting
warm and bright, smiling in delight
chiming my name in glad reunion
Introducing me to myself.
And your last lucid instructions
when at the hour of my father’s death
you willed yourself to the task:
The last funerary rites.
Clarity dug from I know not where
wracked and wrecked with dementia
you told me, use this passage and that one
This hymn, and this, and maybe this
as his body lay in the next room.
Then you laid all down,
“It is enough.”
It was the last time I heard your voice.
After his death you sewed your mouth tight
lidded your eyes and turned your face away
light and flesh stripped from you.
Stilled in that wooden ferry, you severed the line yourself
drifting down to the away in that cold, cold river.
I may wish for a psalm to sooth my heart
to offset your death
to bring with a clear voice
that of you which is me
floating in the jade waters
of that coldest lake
of that coldest sea
But even in my mind’s ear
the sweetness fades.
It was not enough.
GrowingBeautifully (GB)
My Dear @SD, what a heart-wrenching poem, and beautiful. I feel that I lived it too as I read it, and in a way I did in RL as well, with my mother-in-law’s death a few month’s ago.
She had been an active, talkative person, but strokes and dementia shut her down. She’d look at us, most of the time able to recognise us or sometimes mistaking a stranger for a friend. But she stopped speaking, hence we hardly heard her voice in the last years.
I guess it can never be enough since we do not last forever in this world, but we look forward to the life that does not end.
Thank you for sharing a deep part of your heart with us!
monmor
@sd I teared up just starting to read your poem and stopped there. I am at the point in my life where I wonder how much to share my health concerns with my children and how to do that. Mortality is a difficult topic but should not be a hidden topic.
I am lucky to have family and friends at the same stage of life as I am who are willing to share concerns.
As I navigated the subway with my arthritic knee the other day, to get to a doctor’s appointmnet, I appreciated the health I have had until now.
GrowingBeautifully (GB)
Hi @MM! @SD has composed a very affecting poem, I feel!
GrowingBeautifully (GB)
OK it’s time!!! Let’s start now!
monmor
I am ready to go!
WEnchanteur
Hi MM & GB
GrowingBeautifully (GB)
I’m trying to catch both the ending as well as the beginning of this last episode. Threads still left to be tied up neatly… all done so well.
GrowingBeautifully (GB)
Hi @WE!! A comfortable beginning after that frenetic ep of last week, with SH and HS in each other’s arms in hospital!
salteddust
Hi @WE, @MM, @GB. I join you now.
WEnchanteur
Ah. I remember now, there is a last plot about Soo-Ha exam for recruting police.
Cha and Do-Yoon would be a nice couple ?
GrowingBeautifully (GB)
Hi @SD!!
feifei
Hi M, GB, WE.
WEnchanteur
Hi SD.
@GB, yep, writer Park is good at closing all storyline, there is often time for that at last episode, instead of a flamboyant finish. The finish often in the penultimate episode. But the nice thing is she does it in a not boring way. As this kind of episode could also be lot of boring fillers in some other writers hands.
GrowingBeautifully (GB)
@WE, somehow Do Yeon only has her mum as her confidante and friend. She really gave up all friends in her teens to pursue being a prosecutor (as she said before) because of guilt over not testifying in court as a teen.
Poor Cha is just used by everyone and helps everyone but is alone in the end.
GrowingBeautifully (GB)
Hi @FF!
monmor
Very interesting o see how the screenwriter is setting up the theme of whether or not to have sympathy for a killer and to what extent.
momor
A thene already presented in earlier episodes.
salteddust
Hi @FF. I noticed before how Cha’s hair is getting messy again, similar to the beginning of the drama. Is he becoming more gullible again?
feifei
Min Jung Kook still wants Cha KW as his defense lawyer, so persistent.
GrowingBeautifully (GB)
@WE, that’s true. I usually don’t look forward to last episodes when I can see that the denouement was made in the last but one episode.
I see that Cha remains the one who is soft towards even the guilty while Do Yeon wants to follow the law rigidly.
GrowingBeautifully (GB)
@MM, the interesting point made is whether having someone to listen to us will make a difference in our decisions.
monmor
Now the theme of not letting revenge and hate dominate one’s life. And the value of the parental-child bond. In the scene at the funeral house
feifei
Cha looks like he is going to defend Min Jung Kook.
GrowingBeautifully (GB)
@SD, I thought Cha’s hair was like a neatly combed school boy’s hair at first. He was such an eager beaver. Now although he’s no longer easy to dupe, he still retains his care for others, even for his rival SH and killer MIn.
GrowingBeautifully (GB)
@FF, Min finds only 1 person willing to listen to him and sticks to poor Cha like gum to a shoe (gum shoe like what HS used to call SH)!!!
feifei
@GB, having someone to listen to us may help us to rationalize our thoughts and decisions may change.
GrowingBeautifully (GB)
@MM, yes that’s one of the themes that’s highlighted throughout. Various ways of looking at responses to being wrongly accused, unfairly treated… revenge or a better, bigger response.
monmor
I had more sympathy before for Min’s wish to be listened to. Now I feel that he is being manipulative and I am afraid Cha will fall for it.
salteddust
Once again Judge Kim provides some comic relief. He is always interested in comfort and position, but somehow in a nice, amusing way.
WEnchanteur
Soo Ha could be such a wonderfull cop, with his super-power. Just that, it could be a season 2 for this drama.
+ add my silly idea of HS having an affair. Ahahah!
GrowingBeautifully (GB)
I like that this episode shows how everyone has grown. HS is able to take Cha’s side although he is going to defend Min… but her skirt is still the wrong way around LOL….Shows that she’s still not concerned about things that are for appearances only.
She’s grown but still the same at the core.
monmor
Poor kind judge. He is getting a headache again and is pulling out his hair.
@GB Good point about Cha’s hair.
GrowingBeautifully (GB)
@SD, I pity Judge Kim for being often disregarded, but then he’s concerned with things like a fan to keep himself cool and keeping the pores on his nose clear LOL. So it’s hard to see him in a serious light.
WEnchanteur
His telepathy could be a good problem for a couple. I think over time, it could be suffocating for her. The fact you can never have a secret garden, private intimity with yourself. A nice concept of a romance drama.
feifei
This is the last episode, and we still have issues to resolve. SH is suspected of attempted murder.
GrowingBeautifully (GB)
I’m at the point where Do Yeon is avoiding Cha.
Cha agreed to defend Min in order to get all the truth. Unfortunately the truth also implicates SH.
WEnchanteur
The judge trapped by accident in the door because of them. lol
And they don’t care about him..
GrowingBeautifully (GB)
@WE, at the end of this episode we see SH at the police interview and wowing the interviewer. Loved that lookback at the past episodes through the interview.
WEnchanteur
Hi FF.
She finds his diary. This time, it’s him who is transparent to her.
feifei
SH carries a croco leather bag pack, must be expensive.
momor
If Min had felt listened to when his wife lost the opportunity to get the heart transplant, that might have prevented this entire saga. Until now I had been thinking about his wanting to be listened to was about wanting his actions to be acknowledged as understandable in light of what happenned to his wife and family.
I think I ffd past the scene where he is violent in the hospital, on this watch.
I am often surprised how voicing something, even to myself, helps me.
GrowingBeautifully (GB)
@FF, this writer gives us tension until the very end.
Now the theme is about the truth. Do we tell a lie to defend a good guy, to protect his future? Sh will lose his chance to become a policeman because of the truth.
salteddust
@WE, I found Judge Kim’s role in that scene hilarious. Writer Park really knows how to include leavening in serious scenes.
I also found this last episode suspenseful, because of SH’s situation. He has just taken the police exams, will he be convicted, will he have his life disrupted again?
monmor
Such an amusing exchange between Cha and kind judge about whether Cha should take the case. I have certinly had those kind of exchanges but not over such high stakes!
GrowingBeautifully (GB)
@WE, @SD, that Revolving Door really plays a great part in this show.
Now it’s the means by which Cha can finally get Do Yeon to listen to him regarding using the law with heart instead of rigidly and coldly.
It’s also a good way to show how the 3 of them have one time or other been trapped in one track way of thinking and how they’ve changed.
WEnchanteur
@GB, yep yep, revolving door, symbols. 😉
GrowingBeautifully (GB)
@FF yes my thoughts exactly about that backpack of his.
SH has grown up to face up to his fears and own up to the truth even if it means he goes to jail. He who heard the lies from lips while hearing the truth in his mind, has chosen not to be conflicted anymore.
I’m so sad for him as he sits outside seeing that he has a chance to enter the police force except for the charges that he’s facing.
WEnchanteur
Drama and Hug with a sexy blue dress. 🙂
GrowingBeautifully (GB)
@MM, that is certainly a point that show wants to make. Min could have and might have made very different decisions if the doctors or others who were around him had listened to him and given him ways to think of other options.
GrowingBeautifully (GB)
@SD, poor SH and HS are both in tears as they think that they may be making their farewells. SH’s farewell came in the diary.
feifei
In the end, Do Yeon relented. She is not charging SH for attempted murder, the guide’s words played a part to swaying her choice.
salteddust
@GB, @FF, I just realized that truth is also one of the themes of this drama. When HS tries to convince SH to lie, he says he cannot. He knows the truth this time so ‘he cannot lie.’ By hearing the thoughts of others he hears their truth, he hears their true voice. And Lawyer Cha wants Min to speak the truth he has kept buried. Only if these characters speak truly, can they be heard.
GrowingBeautifully (GB)
@MM we get a good exchange between Judge and Do Yeon too that makes a difference as well to how DY chooses to go in the interrogation.
monmor
When SY is negative about another lawyer he or she shows up by phone or in person!
feifei
@WE, really sexy blue dress.
GrowingBeautifully (GB)
@WE, you’re so far ahead… at the end almost already!
I’m back at where DY is questioning SH but keeping him from being indicted for attempted murder.
salteddust
Melodrama music for when SH looks at his police exam prep work book.
GrowingBeautifully (GB)
@FF, DY had to go through the suffering over Hwang’s case in order to get softened in her attitude towards those who are guilty. So she finally relents.
WEnchanteur
I’m at Soo-Ha and Soo-Bin.
I think he will make her forget him for good!
GrowingBeautifully (GB)
@SD, that’s a nice way of putting it! Poetic too! ‘Only if they speak the truth will they be heard.’
monmor
I get how this murder charge move along the pplot. However, would there not be more invistigation first before charging. Like intervieing the victim or getting more of the story from Min? Again isthis creative license or differences in legal systems?
Maybe not even an important point to ponder but my rational brain goes there.
GrowingBeautifully (GB)
After seeing how everyone has changed, and for the better, we are faced with the hopeless case of Judge Seo who never admitted guilt, never acknowledged the truth, lived the lie and never felt remorse and who is now alone at home.
WEnchanteur
Ahah, she was on the way to financial ruin for buying books she doesn’t care about, just to be with him.
GrowingBeautifully (GB)
@MM, DY got the story of the attempted murder first from Min himself and therefore has no choice but to to follow up with an investigation.
feifei
Telling the truth is the message of this episode, SH tells Su Bin the truth.
GrowingBeautifully (GB)
@WE, Yes, Sung Bin was a dummy all along knowing that SH never cared about her romantically, but still pursuing him. She was going to join the police academy just to be with him. what a lousy reason to be a cop!
momor
@GB @SD Yes a very affecting, powerful poem. I glanced through it and could tell I need more distance right now to process the grief it depicts.
GrowingBeautifully (GB)
@FF good joke the Mechanic guy puts his foot into his mouth every time with Sung Bin. He has still not found the way to get on her good side.
monmor
@GB Yes, I was thinking that summoning SH could be seen as part of the investigation but it seemed to me they were already charging him.
GrowingBeautifully (GB)
We get one goodbye between SH and Sung Bin and now another kind of goodbye between HS and Cha. Loved how all the hand holding and hand kiss took place in office in front of Shin.
Yoo Chang is the only one to gloat over DY’s downfall due to failing to indict Hwang. He’s the butt in this show!
feifei
@GB, Sung Bin is also quite dense, can’t she see that the guy is interested in her?
WEnchanteur
@GB, at the ITW, this chief cop is a scientist chief in W s2 Ep39. 🙂
GrowingBeautifully (GB)
HS has grown to not want Min to be executed. She does not want to be on the same level as Min so she opposes his execution.
monmor
I am only getting to the ay scene in the revolving doors now. The crux of the matter!
WEnchanteur
Do-Yoon takes care of a father. Now it matters to her.
GrowingBeautifully (GB)
@WE, we get the funny baseball scene with the two of them in silly helmets.
And the voiceover of HS to bring us to the end and tie up everything nicely.
WEnchanteur
He goes in prison for life. But was there really any other sentence, except death sentence ?
salteddust
@WE, I like your thought about how the transparency could be suffocating for the person who has to always share their inner most thoughts. One needs a little bit of privacy in a relationship (especially for all those negative thoughts in the middle of an argument, LOL). I like the metaphor of a garden.
feifei
Very smart of the writer to use the interview and SH’s answer to the question as a summary for the changes observed in the characters of this drama.
GrowingBeautifully (GB)
@WE yes, the only other sentence was the death sentence which no one except Min himself wanted. So a life sentence was really a big punishment for him!!!
WEnchanteur
“I hear your voice” ends on a scene of HS learning “how to understand people who can’t speak”, without a voice”.
TAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH !!!!!!!
feifei
We have reached the end of the episode, nice round up.
I have finished watching “While you were sleeping”, was surprised that I finished it so fast.
See you all next week!
GrowingBeautifully (GB)
@FF @WE I like how SH gives credit to everyone who helped him get to where he is at the interview. He even adds Min to the list of people who had a part to play … what path to avoid!
GrowingBeautifully (GB)
By @FF! See you next week for ‘While You Were Sleeping’.
GrowingBeautifully (GB)
@MM we are reminded of how HS once said the truth was only because the law made a decision and that verdict became the truth, not the other way around. But now at the end, she is using the truth to defend her clients.
WEnchanteur
Several weeks ago, I started again the rewriting of W2. I’m on the way to end it. At ep48. Many more episodes to go, but I’ll don’t stop until the end of.. the best kdrama ever written. That will SMASH your mind and heart without limits.
So, I’ll quit now, returning to this work, 100% time consuming, and I’m so greatly happy we start another awesome drama next week, without time to watch anything other, except a few weeks when I could before to write again.
salteddust
I like how Lawyer Cha’s admonition to Min is used as a voice over (and condemnation) of Judge Seo. As SY is leaving her father’s house, perhaps forever, he will in fact suffer from his unwillingness to admit that he was wrong, he will live alone. Very parsimonious on Writer Park’s part.
GrowingBeautifully (GB)
@WE, I’m glad that you’re so happy about our next rewatch! Happy writing and see you next week!!
salteddust
Bye @FF! I will see you all in 2 weeks.
@WE, 48 episodes. Wow! I just joined an online writing group to get more consistent about my writing; I cannot imagine writing that much!
monmor
What a well done kiss-their acting is so good. Hesitation, affection, trust ,desire all communicated.
GrowingBeautifully (GB)
@SD not bad that you’re in a writing group. I need to be consistent in stuff I should do as well!
See you in 2 weeks’ time!
monmor
Thank you all for a great rewatch of this drama! I am looking forward to the next one.
salteddust
Bye @GB!
@MM, I thought the same thing about that kissing scene. All the kinds of romantic love in those few kisses.
GrowingBeautifully (GB)
Bye @MM! I like that the kiss was done on the stairs so that they were at the same height for the kiss. It showed also how they live, give and compromise for each other, meeting halfway. She came down from her arrogance and indifference to what was true in defence because of his influence, and he stepped up to become an adult because he wanted to protect her.
So the stairs was a good image to use as well.
monmor
I have not quite finished the episode but your thoughts above have me thinking further about the themes. In particular the idea that we will not feel heard if we do not tell the truth or if we feel our truth was exposed(through mind reading, for example). Also how truth becomes clearer through voicing our thoughts in exchange with others.
salteddust
@MM, a nice thought to end on. I have enjoyed how Writer Park weaves all of this into a very watchable drama without being too preachy or didactic.
See you all in 2 weeks (for me).
And thanks for reading my poem. I am always a bit embarrassed to share.
monmor
I think there was another scene on the stairs where they don’t kiss. Might relate back to this symbolism of the stairs.
GrowingBeautifully (GB)
@MM yes there was the time they were on the stairs, with HS on the way to work, and SH was telling HS that he would grow up and she did not need to be responsible for him or something like that.
monmor
@SD It was because you are speaking the truth in your poem that it was difficult to read. It would be a better world if we acknowledged the truths about death.
monmor
And now he has grown up!
monmor
I still do not understand how SHs Father influenced the system to get the heart. Did I
Miss something or is this purposefully obscure?
I have wondered if it was because he was writing those positive articles that he got special preference.But that is the best I can come up with.
GrowingBeautifully (GB)
@MM, yes now on the stairs again, he’s quite the grown up. Now he’s the man taking the responsibility. This is one instance of how complete Writer Park is in her resolution. She makes sure she completes the ‘circle’ that she began.
Did you watch the ENDING CREDITS? The collage of snap shots of the many joining of hands that showed the relationships to the progress in the protagonists.
We know that DY accepted the repercussions of her decision to be true to what she felt was the right thing to do for her dying father. And we get to see her spending his last days with him, still drawing him with crayons.
HS who had once looked askance at Cha’s eager defence of the deaf woman when he used sign language, picks up sign for herself and her future deaf clients.
And at the end of the credits, SH did indeed become a police officer and gets a hug from HS. A totally satisfying finish up the very last credit!
monmor
I didn’t watch to the end of the credits so thank you for reminding me.
GrowingBeautifully (GB)
@MM, about what SH’s father did, it was mentioned in the Judge Kim’s summary of Min’s sentencing. It seems SH’s father and the doctor colluded to change the order of patients who got the heart transplant. That’s probably why SH was so ashamed to admit this to HS and it was the reason he felt that once HS found out through Cha, that he’d lose her forever.
I will be joining you this Saturday, although I might start a few minutes late as I will be enjoying an early morning, summer walk with a friend. I will miss the first rewatch of “While You Were Sleeping”, as I will be without internet that weekend. Since I may be late this Saturday, I wanted to share this poem upfront. I wrote it a year ago, about my mother’s death 5 years ago, but have been revising it on and off since. The title and topic has not changed and as you can see is tangentially related (“The last time I heard your voice”)
The last time I heard your voice
It is your voice, missing, present
which snags my heart:
the soprano my voice could pitch to
perfectly matched
The sweetness of your voice from far away
clear, bell-like, like Japanese tea cups
which ring when you strike them softly
a chime.
And all those times I did not hear
the melody of your voice, too entangled
in my own thoughts. I weep
remembering those few times I truly heard you,
Remembering the low, pithy, eviscerating opinions
voiced in early morning as your iron control slipped
your intelligence sundered.
Even now, when I think of your life
When I think of your death,
I think of your last greeting
warm and bright, smiling in delight
chiming my name in glad reunion
Introducing me to myself.
And your last lucid instructions
when at the hour of my father’s death
you willed yourself to the task:
The last funerary rites.
Clarity dug from I know not where
wracked and wrecked with dementia
you told me, use this passage and that one
This hymn, and this, and maybe this
as his body lay in the next room.
Then you laid all down,
“It is enough.”
It was the last time I heard your voice.
After his death you sewed your mouth tight
lidded your eyes and turned your face away
light and flesh stripped from you.
Stilled in that wooden ferry, you severed the line yourself
drifting down to the away in that cold, cold river.
I may wish for a psalm to sooth my heart
to offset your death
to bring with a clear voice
that of you which is me
floating in the jade waters
of that coldest lake
of that coldest sea
But even in my mind’s ear
the sweetness fades.
It was not enough.
My Dear @SD, what a heart-wrenching poem, and beautiful. I feel that I lived it too as I read it, and in a way I did in RL as well, with my mother-in-law’s death a few month’s ago.
She had been an active, talkative person, but strokes and dementia shut her down. She’d look at us, most of the time able to recognise us or sometimes mistaking a stranger for a friend. But she stopped speaking, hence we hardly heard her voice in the last years.
I guess it can never be enough since we do not last forever in this world, but we look forward to the life that does not end.
Thank you for sharing a deep part of your heart with us!
@sd I teared up just starting to read your poem and stopped there. I am at the point in my life where I wonder how much to share my health concerns with my children and how to do that. Mortality is a difficult topic but should not be a hidden topic.
I am lucky to have family and friends at the same stage of life as I am who are willing to share concerns.
As I navigated the subway with my arthritic knee the other day, to get to a doctor’s appointmnet, I appreciated the health I have had until now.
Hi @MM! @SD has composed a very affecting poem, I feel!
OK it’s time!!! Let’s start now!
I am ready to go!
Hi MM & GB
I’m trying to catch both the ending as well as the beginning of this last episode. Threads still left to be tied up neatly… all done so well.
Hi @WE!! A comfortable beginning after that frenetic ep of last week, with SH and HS in each other’s arms in hospital!
Hi @WE, @MM, @GB. I join you now.
Ah. I remember now, there is a last plot about Soo-Ha exam for recruting police.
Cha and Do-Yoon would be a nice couple ?
Hi @SD!!
Hi M, GB, WE.
Hi SD.
@GB, yep, writer Park is good at closing all storyline, there is often time for that at last episode, instead of a flamboyant finish. The finish often in the penultimate episode. But the nice thing is she does it in a not boring way. As this kind of episode could also be lot of boring fillers in some other writers hands.
@WE, somehow Do Yeon only has her mum as her confidante and friend. She really gave up all friends in her teens to pursue being a prosecutor (as she said before) because of guilt over not testifying in court as a teen.
Poor Cha is just used by everyone and helps everyone but is alone in the end.
Hi @FF!
Very interesting o see how the screenwriter is setting up the theme of whether or not to have sympathy for a killer and to what extent.
A thene already presented in earlier episodes.
Hi @FF. I noticed before how Cha’s hair is getting messy again, similar to the beginning of the drama. Is he becoming more gullible again?
Min Jung Kook still wants Cha KW as his defense lawyer, so persistent.
@WE, that’s true. I usually don’t look forward to last episodes when I can see that the denouement was made in the last but one episode.
I see that Cha remains the one who is soft towards even the guilty while Do Yeon wants to follow the law rigidly.
@MM, the interesting point made is whether having someone to listen to us will make a difference in our decisions.
Now the theme of not letting revenge and hate dominate one’s life. And the value of the parental-child bond. In the scene at the funeral house
Cha looks like he is going to defend Min Jung Kook.
@SD, I thought Cha’s hair was like a neatly combed school boy’s hair at first. He was such an eager beaver. Now although he’s no longer easy to dupe, he still retains his care for others, even for his rival SH and killer MIn.
@FF, Min finds only 1 person willing to listen to him and sticks to poor Cha like gum to a shoe (gum shoe like what HS used to call SH)!!!
@GB, having someone to listen to us may help us to rationalize our thoughts and decisions may change.
@MM, yes that’s one of the themes that’s highlighted throughout. Various ways of looking at responses to being wrongly accused, unfairly treated… revenge or a better, bigger response.
I had more sympathy before for Min’s wish to be listened to. Now I feel that he is being manipulative and I am afraid Cha will fall for it.
Once again Judge Kim provides some comic relief. He is always interested in comfort and position, but somehow in a nice, amusing way.
Soo Ha could be such a wonderfull cop, with his super-power. Just that, it could be a season 2 for this drama.
+ add my silly idea of HS having an affair. Ahahah!
I like that this episode shows how everyone has grown. HS is able to take Cha’s side although he is going to defend Min… but her skirt is still the wrong way around LOL….Shows that she’s still not concerned about things that are for appearances only.
She’s grown but still the same at the core.
Poor kind judge. He is getting a headache again and is pulling out his hair.
@GB Good point about Cha’s hair.
@SD, I pity Judge Kim for being often disregarded, but then he’s concerned with things like a fan to keep himself cool and keeping the pores on his nose clear LOL. So it’s hard to see him in a serious light.
His telepathy could be a good problem for a couple. I think over time, it could be suffocating for her. The fact you can never have a secret garden, private intimity with yourself. A nice concept of a romance drama.
This is the last episode, and we still have issues to resolve. SH is suspected of attempted murder.
I’m at the point where Do Yeon is avoiding Cha.
Cha agreed to defend Min in order to get all the truth. Unfortunately the truth also implicates SH.
The judge trapped by accident in the door because of them. lol
And they don’t care about him..
@WE, at the end of this episode we see SH at the police interview and wowing the interviewer. Loved that lookback at the past episodes through the interview.
Hi FF.
She finds his diary. This time, it’s him who is transparent to her.
SH carries a croco leather bag pack, must be expensive.
If Min had felt listened to when his wife lost the opportunity to get the heart transplant, that might have prevented this entire saga. Until now I had been thinking about his wanting to be listened to was about wanting his actions to be acknowledged as understandable in light of what happenned to his wife and family.
I think I ffd past the scene where he is violent in the hospital, on this watch.
I am often surprised how voicing something, even to myself, helps me.
@FF, this writer gives us tension until the very end.
Now the theme is about the truth. Do we tell a lie to defend a good guy, to protect his future? Sh will lose his chance to become a policeman because of the truth.
@WE, I found Judge Kim’s role in that scene hilarious. Writer Park really knows how to include leavening in serious scenes.
I also found this last episode suspenseful, because of SH’s situation. He has just taken the police exams, will he be convicted, will he have his life disrupted again?
Such an amusing exchange between Cha and kind judge about whether Cha should take the case. I have certinly had those kind of exchanges but not over such high stakes!
@WE, @SD, that Revolving Door really plays a great part in this show.
Now it’s the means by which Cha can finally get Do Yeon to listen to him regarding using the law with heart instead of rigidly and coldly.
It’s also a good way to show how the 3 of them have one time or other been trapped in one track way of thinking and how they’ve changed.
@GB, yep yep, revolving door, symbols. 😉
@FF yes my thoughts exactly about that backpack of his.
SH has grown up to face up to his fears and own up to the truth even if it means he goes to jail. He who heard the lies from lips while hearing the truth in his mind, has chosen not to be conflicted anymore.
I’m so sad for him as he sits outside seeing that he has a chance to enter the police force except for the charges that he’s facing.
Drama and Hug with a sexy blue dress. 🙂
@MM, that is certainly a point that show wants to make. Min could have and might have made very different decisions if the doctors or others who were around him had listened to him and given him ways to think of other options.
@SD, poor SH and HS are both in tears as they think that they may be making their farewells. SH’s farewell came in the diary.
In the end, Do Yeon relented. She is not charging SH for attempted murder, the guide’s words played a part to swaying her choice.
@GB, @FF, I just realized that truth is also one of the themes of this drama. When HS tries to convince SH to lie, he says he cannot. He knows the truth this time so ‘he cannot lie.’ By hearing the thoughts of others he hears their truth, he hears their true voice. And Lawyer Cha wants Min to speak the truth he has kept buried. Only if these characters speak truly, can they be heard.
@MM we get a good exchange between Judge and Do Yeon too that makes a difference as well to how DY chooses to go in the interrogation.
When SY is negative about another lawyer he or she shows up by phone or in person!
@WE, really sexy blue dress.
@WE, you’re so far ahead… at the end almost already!
I’m back at where DY is questioning SH but keeping him from being indicted for attempted murder.
Melodrama music for when SH looks at his police exam prep work book.
@FF, DY had to go through the suffering over Hwang’s case in order to get softened in her attitude towards those who are guilty. So she finally relents.
I’m at Soo-Ha and Soo-Bin.
I think he will make her forget him for good!
@SD, that’s a nice way of putting it! Poetic too! ‘Only if they speak the truth will they be heard.’
I get how this murder charge move along the pplot. However, would there not be more invistigation first before charging. Like intervieing the victim or getting more of the story from Min? Again isthis creative license or differences in legal systems?
Maybe not even an important point to ponder but my rational brain goes there.
After seeing how everyone has changed, and for the better, we are faced with the hopeless case of Judge Seo who never admitted guilt, never acknowledged the truth, lived the lie and never felt remorse and who is now alone at home.
Ahah, she was on the way to financial ruin for buying books she doesn’t care about, just to be with him.
@MM, DY got the story of the attempted murder first from Min himself and therefore has no choice but to to follow up with an investigation.
Telling the truth is the message of this episode, SH tells Su Bin the truth.
@WE, Yes, Sung Bin was a dummy all along knowing that SH never cared about her romantically, but still pursuing him. She was going to join the police academy just to be with him. what a lousy reason to be a cop!
@GB @SD Yes a very affecting, powerful poem. I glanced through it and could tell I need more distance right now to process the grief it depicts.
@FF good joke the Mechanic guy puts his foot into his mouth every time with Sung Bin. He has still not found the way to get on her good side.
@GB Yes, I was thinking that summoning SH could be seen as part of the investigation but it seemed to me they were already charging him.
We get one goodbye between SH and Sung Bin and now another kind of goodbye between HS and Cha. Loved how all the hand holding and hand kiss took place in office in front of Shin.
Yoo Chang is the only one to gloat over DY’s downfall due to failing to indict Hwang. He’s the butt in this show!
@GB, Sung Bin is also quite dense, can’t she see that the guy is interested in her?
@GB, at the ITW, this chief cop is a scientist chief in W s2 Ep39. 🙂
HS has grown to not want Min to be executed. She does not want to be on the same level as Min so she opposes his execution.
I am only getting to the ay scene in the revolving doors now. The crux of the matter!
Do-Yoon takes care of a father. Now it matters to her.
@WE, we get the funny baseball scene with the two of them in silly helmets.
And the voiceover of HS to bring us to the end and tie up everything nicely.
He goes in prison for life. But was there really any other sentence, except death sentence ?
@WE, I like your thought about how the transparency could be suffocating for the person who has to always share their inner most thoughts. One needs a little bit of privacy in a relationship (especially for all those negative thoughts in the middle of an argument, LOL). I like the metaphor of a garden.
Very smart of the writer to use the interview and SH’s answer to the question as a summary for the changes observed in the characters of this drama.
@WE yes, the only other sentence was the death sentence which no one except Min himself wanted. So a life sentence was really a big punishment for him!!!
“I hear your voice” ends on a scene of HS learning “how to understand people who can’t speak”, without a voice”.
TAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH !!!!!!!
We have reached the end of the episode, nice round up.
I have finished watching “While you were sleeping”, was surprised that I finished it so fast.
See you all next week!
@FF @WE I like how SH gives credit to everyone who helped him get to where he is at the interview. He even adds Min to the list of people who had a part to play … what path to avoid!
By @FF! See you next week for ‘While You Were Sleeping’.
@MM we are reminded of how HS once said the truth was only because the law made a decision and that verdict became the truth, not the other way around. But now at the end, she is using the truth to defend her clients.
Several weeks ago, I started again the rewriting of W2. I’m on the way to end it. At ep48. Many more episodes to go, but I’ll don’t stop until the end of.. the best kdrama ever written. That will SMASH your mind and heart without limits.
So, I’ll quit now, returning to this work, 100% time consuming, and I’m so greatly happy we start another awesome drama next week, without time to watch anything other, except a few weeks when I could before to write again.
I like how Lawyer Cha’s admonition to Min is used as a voice over (and condemnation) of Judge Seo. As SY is leaving her father’s house, perhaps forever, he will in fact suffer from his unwillingness to admit that he was wrong, he will live alone. Very parsimonious on Writer Park’s part.
@WE, I’m glad that you’re so happy about our next rewatch! Happy writing and see you next week!!
Bye @FF! I will see you all in 2 weeks.
@WE, 48 episodes. Wow! I just joined an online writing group to get more consistent about my writing; I cannot imagine writing that much!
What a well done kiss-their acting is so good. Hesitation, affection, trust ,desire all communicated.
@SD not bad that you’re in a writing group. I need to be consistent in stuff I should do as well!
See you in 2 weeks’ time!
Thank you all for a great rewatch of this drama! I am looking forward to the next one.
Bye @GB!
@MM, I thought the same thing about that kissing scene. All the kinds of romantic love in those few kisses.
Bye @MM! I like that the kiss was done on the stairs so that they were at the same height for the kiss. It showed also how they live, give and compromise for each other, meeting halfway. She came down from her arrogance and indifference to what was true in defence because of his influence, and he stepped up to become an adult because he wanted to protect her.
So the stairs was a good image to use as well.
I have not quite finished the episode but your thoughts above have me thinking further about the themes. In particular the idea that we will not feel heard if we do not tell the truth or if we feel our truth was exposed(through mind reading, for example). Also how truth becomes clearer through voicing our thoughts in exchange with others.
@MM, a nice thought to end on. I have enjoyed how Writer Park weaves all of this into a very watchable drama without being too preachy or didactic.
See you all in 2 weeks (for me).
And thanks for reading my poem. I am always a bit embarrassed to share.
I think there was another scene on the stairs where they don’t kiss. Might relate back to this symbolism of the stairs.
@MM yes there was the time they were on the stairs, with HS on the way to work, and SH was telling HS that he would grow up and she did not need to be responsible for him or something like that.
@SD It was because you are speaking the truth in your poem that it was difficult to read. It would be a better world if we acknowledged the truths about death.
And now he has grown up!
I still do not understand how SHs Father influenced the system to get the heart. Did I
Miss something or is this purposefully obscure?
I have wondered if it was because he was writing those positive articles that he got special preference.But that is the best I can come up with.
@MM, yes now on the stairs again, he’s quite the grown up. Now he’s the man taking the responsibility. This is one instance of how complete Writer Park is in her resolution. She makes sure she completes the ‘circle’ that she began.
Did you watch the ENDING CREDITS? The collage of snap shots of the many joining of hands that showed the relationships to the progress in the protagonists.
We know that DY accepted the repercussions of her decision to be true to what she felt was the right thing to do for her dying father. And we get to see her spending his last days with him, still drawing him with crayons.
HS who had once looked askance at Cha’s eager defence of the deaf woman when he used sign language, picks up sign for herself and her future deaf clients.
And at the end of the credits, SH did indeed become a police officer and gets a hug from HS. A totally satisfying finish up the very last credit!
I didn’t watch to the end of the credits so thank you for reminding me.
@MM, about what SH’s father did, it was mentioned in the Judge Kim’s summary of Min’s sentencing. It seems SH’s father and the doctor colluded to change the order of patients who got the heart transplant. That’s probably why SH was so ashamed to admit this to HS and it was the reason he felt that once HS found out through Cha, that he’d lose her forever.
@GB Thank you