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Episode 2 – 2 August 2025
Episode 3 – 9 August 2025
Episode 4 – 16 August 2025
Episode 5 – 23 August 2025
Episode 6 – 30 August 2025
Episode 7 – 6 September 2025
Episode 8 – 13 September 2025
Episode 9 – 20 September 2025
Episode 10 – 27 September 2025
Episode 11 – 4 October 2025
Episode 12 – 11 October 2025
Episode 13 – 18 October 2025
Episode 14 – 25 October 2025
Episode 15 – 1 November 2025
Episode 16 – 8 November 2025
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Oops, I posted anywhere yesterday.
Here, I rewatched this episode, and there is an amazing structure about how it jumps between scenes, with first: a regular childhood flashback, chaining at appropriate times but mostly the last one, creating a “WOO” effect with a reveal. It’s not too confusing as we understand after a while this will be the motus operandi of the episode. Then, it’s like to have two timelines.
However, it gets more complicated at some point, with a scene in a gymnasium, cut in several parts, and going to many other scenes between, including a scene in the prosecutor office that is itself cut with a jump for the gossip in the building, while the scene isn’t even finished. It’s a brainy episode about structure for the writer.
Thanks @pkml3!
Hi @WE, I read you on the other thread as well. It looks like you’re back full force into writing.
This series uses quite a lot of flashbacks so that we can guess why these characters are somehow tied together in the present. I like it for the clues they give so that we can play along to figure out why things are happening the way they are.
The intercuts of scenes are pretty extensive and often another cut comes in to leave us hanging over the previous scene. But at least these are clearly showing us the past and the present.
As you may have noticed, with the dream scenes, we do get confused about whether we are watching an event or a dream. I know the show did that on purpose… it gave us the horrific ending for HJ (and her mum and Woo Tak) if nothing intervened to stop the chain of events.
Then it allows us a sigh of relief that it did not actually come to pass. And it explains why Jae Chan becomes suddenly super vigilant over HJ and Yoo Beom, and when it snows.
The episode numbering is uneven for me. Ep 1 and 2 are actually the First Episode. I’ll have to check for the right Episode 2!!!
@GB, yes, here we watch Ep 3 & 4 of the original broadcast. But then, any website just reversed to the previous and standard format, joining episodes for an hour one.
About all the cuts/flashbacks, I always ask to myself why the writer did that, it’s certainly because she judged it was the most powerful way to tell the story. So it’s interesting to study, see exactly what scene cuts for what other, what suspens, what emotion, and think about how flat it was maybe, if told in a linear way.
I bet the screenplay of this episode is pretty unreadable, like are some of episodes of W. I scratched my hair when reading, and thinking “Woo! the guys reading this the first, before the drama was made, had a hard time”. It’s not pleasant on the page, but the effect is stunning when it’s on screen. I guess the directors, who are familiar, can get a little thing when reading first, and understand easely the pace and meaning and feeling it wants, when re-reading.
@WE, on YouTube, the drama critic/reviewer AvenueX who at one time did work in Chinese drama production, mentioned that experienced directors will know even from reading the script, how to depict the scene. They will picture the set, the lighting, the placement of major ‘players/pieces’ of the scene. They will know what to do to make it work best in visual storytelling.
People like me will read and be scratching our heads over the words on a page. It’s not easy to remember a single train of events let alone when we jump back and forth.
But watching it, is easier, since we can see it unfolding rather than have to imagine it all by ourselves (without an experienced director’s mind!)
@GB, sounds a nice interview to watch.
Also, good scripts often direct from the page without directing. I mean, there is no need to technical terms like “camera is here or there”, but the way the words flow is important. Maybe I had speak about that. What I call visual order.
As an example:
“Jae Chan answers the phone.”
is not the same than:
“A phone is answered by Jae Chan.”
Even for you as a reader, and not director, it creates a different experience in your mind-screen. First sentence, you see Jae Chan, and he goes to a phone. Second sentence, you have the idea to see a phone in close-up, then a hand taking it, the one of Jae Chan.
Any line of description in a scene manages your perception, and the way you already see it on TV. To see more how it tricks you, read a short scene you don’t know from my BWYRMH kdrama. Do it first without reading my comment after.
https://w4worlds.fr/drama/BookstoreHeart/html/Ep01_US.html#3
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First we guess something close enough, because our vision is obstructed by passants. The impression is to be right in front, people walking from right to left of the screen, close to us.
Only after, we get an idea the store is empty, so we get the idea the camera is pulling back because we see more of the scene, then the sign “for rent”. Can be pulling back more, but could also be a shot on it or the camera moving to it.
Then we see the scene from opposite angle with the heroine of drama.
When she photographs we, go back to previous angle, looking at the store.
We go back to the heroine to get the idea her gaze is fixed on the store, we change angle again and see the store.
Then we see something that was hidden from the start, and to see it, we guess the camera move slowly on the side to show it, from one store to another.
Without saying a technical word about how to direct that, I still created the experience of being directed, and most importantly, create the illusion of watching a drama for the reader, and not only read something like a novel.
I just started watching but wwill wait to comment except More snow! continuation from last episode.
Hopefully I can keep up !
Hello all. Here but reading we post for a bit.
Hi @MM, in Ep 2 once again the question is raised… can we in all good conscience allow something tragic to take place when we believe we could stop it.
On the one hand JC wanted to stop his dream from coming true.
Then there’s the pianist Soo Yeon, who wants to stop a replay of a brutal reality… that repeats like a bad dream.
Hi @ib, welcome to the party … we’ll start in 2 minutes’ time!!
Okay it’s time!!! We start NOW!!!
Hi IF, GB, MM.
Starts under the snow, with Lee angry for his car.
Hello @GB, @MM, @FF, @WE. Welcome @ib. Being gone the first week has put me a bit behind. I read all your comments last night, but did not do the rewatch.
I’m noticing how they all look at each other so meaningfully.
Hong Joo in particular looks grateful that she’s finally met someone who shares a similar ‘plight’ ie the prophetic dreams, as herself.
Hello everyone! Let’s brace ourselves for the ride!
Hi @WE, Lee is I feel more angry that the girl (his girlfriend!!!) went off towards JC and now is going away with him in the same ambulance LOL.
Hi @SD, no problem, you know what to do. Just enjoy the show and chip in when you can! We’ll read you later and reply to you too.
As if the drama wasn’t good enough, we have for an arc: KIM SO HYUN. Truly gorgeous, at top of her beauty, for one of her best role, aka a girl with anger, not easy to seduce and a bit harsh.
YYAAAHHHHHHH!!!
@GB, oh yes? He prefers the girls over the car? There are guys like this? Hey, he’s not that bad. 😀
@MM I like the ‘magical’ music as they recover from the shock of the accident.
Straight off the bat JC and HJ talk about those dreams that come true… but JC is troubled.
5.09 good explanation of how the timestream splits. now to figure out how and when.
@WE, that’s because the car he drove belonged to HJ’s mum. It wasn’t his car that got hit.
She keeps looking at him like he is her hero. He is sceptical and we get more discussion of the “rules” of the supernatural in this drama. Switch to pianist feels sudden but then we realize the drama is presenting us with the new paths that may result from his changing the future as the leads narrate.
She asks the question I wondered about last time. Why did you save me-it was just a dream to you?
@UBm this understanding of how the future changes when we manipulate something seems to be common in a couple of shows ie for eg if we prevent a death here then someone else will die instead. The flow of events does not change that much, what has to happen, has to happen but the characters may change.
JC and HJ dialogs cuts with pianist situation, with voice-over on this about “fate change after the dream”. A way to say their repetitive situation (wife beaten) could change now, but we didn’t get yet the dream making that, it teases us there should be one.
8.26 same old bae suzy, courageous and unafraid so un korean! same from Big on up to Doona!
oh yeah yeah not his car, I see I see.
Hey, did you notice? There’s always a lovely cat before her house, and it’s always not the same one.
@MM…. hmmm I never thought of what happened to SY or her mum as replacing what would have happened to HJ’s mum and herself and Woo Tak.
I take it that SY’s abusive father would still have been stepping all over his wife (literally and figuratively) even without the change in ‘history’.
Another proud conceited heroine!
LOL @MM I love how HJ makes what JC doe all about herself as if he’s obsessed with her. He’s so cheesed off LOLOL.
@We cut with seung won/pianist, I wish there were a way out..
More moving along the bench like they moved along the bench at the bus stop
She stumps the lawyer with her logic!
@MM yes the parallel with the bus stop bench but this time JC falls off LOL. Last time HJ made a fool of herself and rushed up the wrong bus to get away from the embarrassment.
Now we have some light moments beginning with lots of light streaming into JC’s room as HJ smiles to herself, knowing that she can prove that she has those dreams although JC refuses to believe her.
Writer doesn’t want to make that quick and easy, so: he doesn’t want to believe the dream thing. Or lets say, he could believe it but doesn’t want for reasons.
Now a split-screen scene, with a lovely confort song.
Huge amount of good feelings.
Little movie joke I did not catch the first time, “The Good, the Bad, and the Wierd” (instead of the old ‘western, ‘The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly). Writer Park adds jokes in this one as well (indeed the entire, waiting room scene with HJ and JC is humorous.
LOL the way she smashes the rice ball from heart shape into mush and then back to heart shape depending on whether her mum is referring to JC or to Yoo Beom.
@GB, the salewoman at the coffee shop.
Will be used later in a full situation. 😉
@SD, yes, there are a lot of fun and light moments in this drama.
Now we get a role reversal where once before HJ had rudely rejected JC’s offer of rice cakes through the intercom, now he does the same to her rice balls.
@WE, yes, I noticed that… one of the reasons I mentioned that this writer’s shows re-use the characters to add more to the story.
Now we have the fun journey to work with JC and HJ in split screen going forwards and backwards. And JC getting the weird feeling that he’s been stalked or that too many strangers seem to know him.
@WE I must say that HJ did a good job of following JC by going ahead of him instead of behind him, and setting up people he would meet to call him by name or know what he was going to say. He of course cannot help but believe, but he can choose to not believe her dreams.
At 21:00, her problem is she can’t change fate, and she says to JC leaving “there only you”, because only him could change a dream from her.
SO LOGICALLY… we jump into a flashback to see a traumatazing situation when she couldn’t change a dream, maybe her first one?
BUT… it’s tricky, we don’t see the full situation, only the beginning, so we come back to present.
@GB I missed that the split screen has her on the left! looks like she is following but she is leading!
I do love the split screen sequence. It is light-hearted, fun, and such a backwards but useful way of showing she knew his future. And beautifully filmed.
19:24 We hear JC say that he will not believe HJ’s dreams and his own. He claims he won’t care if someone dies in his dream. “If I do, I have to save whoever is dying. If I can’t do that, I’ll have to blame myself endlessly. I can’t handle that.”
Well that’s what HJ goes through repeatedly in not being able to change what she sees in her dreams.
He saYs he will not believe in a new dream/situation. So the stakes need to be high–his brother!
Notifications do not come through quickly on my phone.
@GB We take note of the same scenes.
@IB yes that’s the beauty of editing. In the split screen she’s going along first but we are confused about who is following whom. A good ploy!
Now he rejects taking responsibility for the happenings in the dreams… he wants to take the easy way out.
@SD, yes that split screen sequence with that upbeat music and that smile on HJ’s face was really a fun sequence.
@MM, he now regrets that he refused to take the umbrella, as he will regret not wanting to believe.
Yes, the stakes will have to be raised so that he has no choice but to take action based on the dream. Next it will be that he has to save his brother.
There something I don’t do so much, can be because I don’t have the idea or opportunity, but there are a lot of voice-over spreading from a cut to the other, having a resonnance with the other situation. This episode is really amazing about screenplay. Can go even more complicated than some SJJ episodes. But not in the same way or same purpose.
After break scene HJ – Lee, we have a hard cut.
No clear reason here, or I missed it. We continue the trauma situation with the bus. I don’t remember if we already know the bus explode (I think we know it already from Ep1, but not sure).
@WE, we hear the voiceovers actually as continuation of conversations coming into an overlapping new scene to explain that next screen.
I love the way HJ apologises to lousy YB. She gets angrier and louder as she apologises. Because she knows that he would have framed her according to JC’s dream.
JC brother really in love with KSH girl. But who couldn’t?? A girl like that in your years school is nearly a deathmatch.
He could have earned brownie points if he had taken her umbrella!
@WE, there appears to be no reason for the hard break to the past scene… but we left with HJ angry with YB and come to this scene where she’s worried because her father will not take precautions although she dreamed he would die. I guess the frustration in HJ is the linking emotion in these 2 scenes.
Presecutor Shin is cute too. Damn, there are only pretty women in this drama??! Gaaah…
The irony of HJ getting onto her father’s bus… did it delay him long enough so that the soldier with the grenade could also run up and board the bus? What a difficult question!!!
@GB, she couldn’t save her father, but if we look closer, she saved the lives of all other passengers.
@WE, pretty actresses are placed to in the show to distract you from the plot LOL.
@WE, yes, she did not realise that she’d managed to make a change in the history. She only wanted her father to be saved, but she actually saved everyone else.
Now instead of snow, we have rain.
@MM poor JC gets rude treatment from Hyang Mi and is ignored by Hee Min. He has a really rough start in his prosecutor job.
@GB, OH ?!! There was a plot ??! 😀 😀 😀
What an office of scumbags — that pre-meal blessing!
From the altercation with YB and JC walking off, we get another hard cut to the past. The emotions again are not positive before we go to the past before the ‘incident’.
Poor HJ as a teenager gets people to move further away from the bus while her father talks to the soldier.
Transitions and voice-overs from Gymnase scene are a blast.
@WE, yes the pretty girls were serving a plot LOLOL.
The baseball is the symbol of HJ’s ‘failure’ to save her father despite knowing what would happen.
But the cut to her waking in the present is not her having the old nightmare but a new dream of Seung Won, whom she does not know. Ironically she takes JC’s advice to ignore her dream when it’s his own brother who would be at stake.
@IB the prayer that they prayed was such a non-prayer. It was aimed only at telling off JC LOL.
@WE and @GB. The first cut is very strange, very abrupt. We must have seen her father’s death in the first episode (or heard about it?) but I don’t recognize HJ as a child here. The first time I saw this, I was confused enough by JC’s statement that if there are 2 of us there must be 3 or 4 to think that this child was a third person.
The female assistant is typing ultra fast on keyboard, giving the gossip to everyone in the building, comedy montage.
56:ish what ties them together…the baseball and a moment of compassion after her (first) attempt to change the outcome?
Lee has a disgusting habit to roll pieces of paper everywhere, like if it was shit drops of a fly. Ewrk!!!
@WE, now we get intercuts between the gym and the prosecutor’s office. SY’s words explains what is happening with JV and YB in the office. We see that even without a dream, SY is correct in predicting what would happen with her father … that he would get away with abusing her mother.
Poor JC is called a dumb prosecutor even before she meets him. At this stage, she is right. He’s too inexperienced to be street-smart.
@SD, Show deliberately leaves us confused because we are supposed to even think of the young person with her dad as a boy!!! We are meant to be totally deceived at first before we find out the twist.
I am struggling with the actor playing JC’s brother. He is fine in this film (quite good in fact), but I have just seen him in “Gogh, the Starry Night”, where he is the office playboy. I keep seeing bits of that playboy character, even when he is not playing one.
Hi SD.
HJ as a child looks like a boy. On purpose, so JC can’t recognize her later. Or rather, can’t remember he met a girl, and only a boy. omething tricky from writer to make sure there is no plot-hole and give JC an innacurate memory.
@WE, yes I really hate the way he tears bits of paper and rolls them up and leaves a mess.
It was 13 years ago that YB tutored JC and lied about who crashed the motorbike. YB is another one who thinks all revolves around him as if everything JC does is as revenge against him for that incident.
YB connects the unconnected things together as if they are all for revenge. But there is a great fallacy here and he’s lying to himself as well as to all who are listening to him.
@SD, I watched “Gogh’s Starry Night” but I cannot recall the Seong Won actor at all.
After watching this drama, Kim So-Hyun was definitely my new darling and I watched anything I could she was into… but preserved a few dramas for later, like “I miss you”, because I know if I get everything at once I would frustrated, so I want a few dramas I didn’t watch yet from her.
The baseball is even in her dad’s columbarium niche!
Her happy life? afterwards in photos…her attempt to change her dad’s life did not change her life outwardly?
So in the main — JC needs to stand up to office bullying, for justice, but reason why he will do it now is given as the cliffhanger…
@WE, we are not to realise the possible reason that JC and HJ are linked by the dreams now, so Writer has hidden HJ’s real identity and no names were exchanged in the past.
@WE, “I Miss You” was a frustrating drama because of it’s non-ending. I did not like it.
We get another hard cut from JC treating his work as something to plough through quickly without giving the cases much thought to the wake of HJ’s father. We needed a break so that next time we can see JC sleeping and having a bad dream.
We approach last scene like a baseball ball, with JC having to accept the terrible gift of premonitory dreams, and THEN, we jump into the BLASTING final flashback of YOUNG JC meeting YOUNG HJ. With many intercuts PRESENT – PAST. AAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH, IT’S SOOOO GOOOOD!!!!!!!!!
@WE, but by the time the baseball is exchanged we know (or at least I understood), that the boy was HJ. And that the boy who gave the baseball back must be JC (because that’s the way Korean dramas work…).
@GB, Shin Jae Ha is the swarmy one (of three, four?) who keeps asking the FL on ‘dates’ that involve sex. He drunk kisses her at the club (where she is not supposed to be, having ditched the work dinner).
JC regretted not taking the umbrella now he wonders if he’ll regret not believing HJ. He calls his brother but has not peace.
Another cut to before the bus exploded. HJ’s father likens leaving his bus to a baseball game. HJ as a teenager is grieving, but as an adult now she’s uneasy about what will happen to Seung Won whom she does not know.
I’ve to go even more fast than other weeks today. So I wish you a good week, see you soon, and read your comments when coming back tomorrow.
Why did her father confront the soldier? He no knew that there was a rogue soldier on the loose from the news report?
I like the line ‘because prosecutors are dumb, and lawyers are clever’; just the opposite of your last watch. Although the public defenders do get to be clever in the end.
@SD, fortunately I forgot about that lascivious character in Gogh’s Starry Night!!!
Now JC goes to HJ, the only other person who has dreams like his and tries to reason his way out of believing that his brother will get into trouble. HJ now uses a baseball analogy on him somehow similar to what her dad had used with her.
He actually comes to ask why they have the dreams and wants her help. But just like her apology to YB, it sounds more like he’s angry and desperate than in need of help.
Bye @WE, see you next week.
Bye @WE! See you next week!!
@MM, yes, I, too wonder why the dad did not just leave the bus, but I guess he was responsible for the vehicle and wanted to try to talk the soldier out of doing something desperate. But he failed.
The actress playing Soo Young’s mom is very good. We see her subtle facial expressions as her husband strokes her hair as she tells Prosecutor JC that she doesn’t “want” to press charges. We know she is both afraid and revolted by her husband’s seemingly gentle touch
I have to leave early today also. An organ recital by a friend. See you all next week.
@IB, the photos in the columbarium niche showed that he kept her promise to her dad to grow out her hair, and that she was getting on in life.
The cliff hanger is whether because of his brother and the fact that HJ had dreamt of him as well, JC will now take action to save his brother. Finding out that HJ had the same dream with more details or with a different slant where he was to blame for his brother being arrested for murder would definitely galvanise him into action.
See you @SD!
We have th scene of her and her dad throwing the baseball earlier. Then in the bus they have an exchange about the “catcher” I did not pay enough attention to this exchange but it is probably part of the metaphor of the baseball which JC picks up(catches)in the funeral home. We see it at the columbarium as well alomg with the pictures of her as a girl.
@GB I kept thinking of possible retorts to YB bullying JC about thr case. I was beginning to fume.
He is not being a hero when he makes his decision about prosecution but we have been forewarned .
@MM, yes the baseball game analogy works well in the dialogue together with the image of HJ as a ‘boy’ in a baseball cap. Both HJ’s dad and then HJ herself makes use of the baseball analogy to explain the current situation. The ball ‘caught’ by JC is also the sign of the link between JC and HJ. They shared a common ‘past’ without knowing it because both of them were in the funeral home due to the same soldier.
The only thing we never get any explanation for is why HJ from young, has those dreams.
@GB Yes she uses the same metaphor with JC.
Reminds me how this writer really pays attention to symbols and how they keep re-appearing as the tory develops. Like the notepad in IHYV.
Bye everyone.
Bye @MM!
Have a good week everyone. Thanks for making me feel welcome.
Technically this should be easier for me next time. Really enjoyed the comments, impressed by how good you all are on structure but had no time to looksee back.. I did a prewatch quickly, next week I will remember on Friday! Planning to make a little list of cuts in order to follow the conversation more quickly.
I have a feeling I will eventually still be the emotional bass strings in the background per usual. WE is definitely the percussion — bangety-bang, then cool slithery sizzle. The conversation is carried by various woodwinds, violins, maybe sax? no super-brasses, too unifying.
@IB, are you in an orchestra? Good analogy!!
No, but I only use words after listening to the music in everything (and mom made us take music lessons, of course). Poetry and languages more are my grownup realms. Hoping you all immediately thought about which instruments you are…!
I’d like to think i’m a sax but I am probably a woodwind😀
I imagine I might be the violin, slipping in everywhere!
oh, you always make me so happy. You definitely play the sax, alto I think. But never put down the other woodwinds. Nothing like the clarinet in a jazz band. I adore the oboe. Flutes in an improvisatory ensemble are the wild cards because they can just go wild, especially in rock bands, maybe that’s your inner woodwind.
Lets be indie, how about electric guitar? (I just started Glass Heart. Japanese rock music is so broadly defined isnt it?)
@IF Yes , I wondered initially how the piano music would become rock.
I love the introductory concert in the rain. That was so beautifully filmed. I want to watch it again. It was like a music video.
@GB I so was thinking of you as a violin when I wrote that because it cuts through other sounds!!!