Bon Appetit, Your Majesty: Ep 4 My Takes

@agdr03 and @GB, why aren’t you watching this kdrama yet? Join me?

Things that baffled me:

1. Was the assassin that shot an arrow at King YiHeon also his court jester?

According to Prince JeSeon’s minion, the assassin was hired by Kim YangSon, the older brother of Kim YiSon whose corpse was desecrated during the first Literati Purge of 1498. (In the history books, the corpse was disinterred and beheaded.)

Then we were shown a montage of the hired assassin dancing in front of the crowd.

This is interesting because in Episode 3, the king had introduced his court jester Gong-Gil (the jester with “many secrets”) to JiYeong after the man helped them from escape the prison and performed the mask dance Cheoyongmu for her and the king. Ironically, the king tasked him to investigate who was behind his assassination attempt.

In Episode 4, Gong-Gil saved JiYeong’s sous-chef, Gil-Geum from getting stabbed by Mokja’s henchwoman so he can’t be entirely bad.

2. What’s the “Year of Gapshin, Year of the Blue Monkey”?

When the king asks her to divine his future, JiYeong (JY) frets that the Literati Purge is drawing near. After the purge, a revolt will ensue, and the king will be dethroned and deposed. She can’t tell him all that because then history can’t be altered. So, instead, she gives him a general divination.

JY: So you want to know about the future, right? Then, let me see. First, you must get through this year well. Hold back even if you get angry and beware of those close to you.

In history books, the second Literati Purge occurred in 1504, and the coup in 1506. The historical Yeonsangun was thereby deposed in 1506 and his younger brother King Jungjong took the throne.

When JY cautions the king to curb his anger and exercise restraint, she’s most likely trying to avoid the second Literati Purge from happening as this will trigger the revolt. In the history books, the king was given a handkerchief purportedly with bloodstains from his mother’s vomit when she was poisoned. The handkerchief was presented by Im SaHong (otherwise known as the king’s bestie in the kdrama) and used as proof that the king’s mother was unjustly deposed, killed, and humiliated even after death.

How was his mother humiliated? Remember, the king grew up believing he was the issue of the third queen. And when he discovered the truth and wanted to reinstate his birthmother’s title and position, the ministers refused. In his rage, then, he killed two of his late father’s concubines (yes, those two unnamed ladies with the butterfly pins in their wigs) and purged the court of all officials who supported his mother’s deposition, plus all his critics and naysayers.

Thus, JiYeong’s counsel to the king to just survive the year unscathed, keep his temper in check, and be wary of confidants and betrayers is sagacious enough.

3. The grawlix (or censored word) in the title

Episode 1. Course Number 1 Gochujang Butter Bibimbap
Episode 2. Course Number 2 Sous Vide Cuisine
Episode 3. Course Number 3 Haute Cuisine
Episode 4. Course Number 4 **** and Spinach Doenjang Soup

At first, I thought the asterisked word referred to the word that Prince JeSeon indecorously blurted in the officials’ gathering. He was asked to share his thoughts on the ongoing cooking competition, and he burst out saying, “ttong” (or poop). He then excused himself to go to the outhouse.

But as it turns out, the word is “clams” or to be specific, freshwater marsh clams called “jaecheop.” The word was probably censored as a playful allusion to a) the clams being a secret – and winning – ingredient in the competition, and b) the likelihood that JiYeong invented the dish 500 years ago and thereby, altered culinary history. Lol.

Things that didn’t baffle me:

It’s sign that I’ve been watching too many kdramas when I can understand some elements in this episode.

1. In the Korean subbed version on Netflix, the king tells his grandmother, “Lips may tell lies, but the tip of a tongue only tells the truth.” In the English-dubbed version, the king however says, “You must try it for yourself. A person’s mouth may lie, [but] it is true that the senses cannot.”

It sounds like he’s warning her not to prejudge JiYeong’s cooking and she should confirm its taste before lying about it. In short, “the proof is in the pudding.”

However, to me, there’s a hidden barb in his words. He’s calling her a snake. The tip of a snake’s tongue is forked. Yes, they’re very sensitive tips, allowing the snake to detect odors from either its prey or attacker from two directions at the same time, and to take premeditated action. The king is saying that he can see through her magnanimous act and know that, just like a snake, her forked tongue has prepared her to kill with her fangs.

2. When the Dowager Queen adds rice to soup, both the Queen mother (the wife of the late king) and the concubine MokJu look horrified. The other two ladies (the concubines of the late king) look oddly at her, too.

There’s a reason for that. In the Joseon period, only the commoners mixed rice with their soup, making a “gukbap” (or “soup rice”). I guess, this was their way of extending the meal when food was scarce. The monarchy, however, was served a meal with plenty of side dishes or “banchans” thus royals didn’t need to mix rice with their soup. The rice and soup were regarded two separate and distinct dishes.

So when the Dowager Queen adds rice to her soup, she’s showing her humble roots for everyone to see. But this very act is a sign of filial piety, too. In displaying her origin, she pays respect to her mother who loved and cared for her.

Personally, I thought this sentimental scene brought home the constant theme in this drama about parental love and its expression in food. The king’s mother showed her love by feeding him. JY’s father showed his love by prepping comfort food for her. And now, we see that the Dowager Queen, too, had a lasting memory of her mother feeding her one more time before she headed off to the palace.

Because she had been so eager to leave her mother and enter a new world, she didn’t want to spare time to sit and eat the soup her mother had painstakingly prepared for her. But her mother foresaw that this would be her last home-cooked meal together and insisted. So, she ate the food, grudgingly, to obey her worried mother. The filial piety was burdensome to her.

As it turns out, this final act of filial duty is the one thing the Queen Dowager misses most in her waning years. She hungers for her mother’s cooking, but the taste is lost upon her mother’s death. Only after eating JiYeong’s soup did she realize that real meaning of filial piety for her. It’s to be grateful for her mother for raising and loving her. Back then, she was too preoccupied to treasure her mother. Now, she understands she values their short time together.

3. “Some”

In one scene in Episode 4, Secretary Im misunderstands the relationship between the king and JY and tells JY to adorn herself with jewelry as the king likes her women like that. JY protests.

JY. What are you talking about? You must be mistaken. There’s no flirting or anything going on between His Majesty and me.

She actually used the word “some” (or 썸 “sseom”).

Lol. Netflix and Viki have been translating this Konglish into “flirting.” It isn’t that, really. But I get why these dramasites can’t explain the meaning and simply use “flirting” as a shorthand.

Here’s my definition of the word “some.” I wrote about this here:

Bitch Talk: On “Some” Relationships

It’s a relationship status when the couple have moved from just being friends but haven’t declared that they’re exclusively dating each other. Because it’s an interim stage between singledom and couplehood, it’s often marked by confusion, ambiguity and frustration. The female lead in “Love is for Suckers” adamantly opposes it because she hates a) the feeling of being kept on tenterhooks, and b) the lack of commitment. But the male lead thinks she should move with the times.

The word “some” came from the English word “something” as in “there may be something there that wasn’t there before.”

I first heard of the word in 2014 when the song “Some” by Soyou and Junggigo became a hit.

Of course, Secretary Im doesn’t understand this modern concept. JY reassures him that nothing is happening between her and the king.

JY: His Majesty doesn’t fancy me or favor me that much. That’s the point.
Gilgeum: Yes. That’s the truth.
Im: You fools! You are truly ungrateful. Do you truly not know what His Majesty is putting up with to protect you?
JY: Are you talking about the competition? It may look like he protected me, but that wasn’t all there was to it. My cooking skills are what convince everyone that—
Im: (tsk-ing) Do you honestly think you survived with your skills alone?

When she asks him to explain himself, Secretary can only whisper conspiratorially that he hopes the king enjoys their “something.”

Of course, what he means is that the king was tacitly helping her during the competition. He showed up unannounced at the competition; he forced the queen play fair; he allowed JY to look for her “secret” ingredient by raising the stakes to two arms instead of one (lol); he made sure she wasn’t disqualified for cooking spinach in an unheard-of method; he put down the other two chefs’ entries to make way for JY.

So yes, the king did put up with quite a lot to ensure that she remains his royal chef.

4. The significance of the butterfly

As kdrama veterans, we should know that screenwriters love this (mis)application of the “butterfly effect” in their dramas.

Earlier, I wrote about the use of the butterfly in this kdrama. Read it here:

Bon Appetit, Your Majesty: On Butterflies

5. Filial piety

I’ll finish this later. I’ve meetings up to my eyeballs now.

28 Comments On “Bon Appetit, Your Majesty: Ep 4 My Takes”

  1. Howdy Queen! 🙇🏻‍♀️

    I hope the meetings are going well.

    I haven’t started this one because I’m not a Yoona fan firstly. 😃 But I don’t mind the King so I’ll try to join you. ☺️

    I’m trying to finish The Coroners Diary, I’m at episode 11. 😂

    I’m not even sure what else to take up with all your offerings in September. I’ll think about it. 😊

  2. To be honest, I’m not a fan of Yoona either. I was about to drop this, too, after Episode 1, because I couldn’t stand her squawking when she was first met the king in the forest, pretending to do karate chops, and when she was nagging him on the way to the hut.

    I thought she was too old for this role (she’s 35 years old) and another actress would have performed better in this manic/hyper-but-cute damsel-in-distress role. (Say, Kim HyeYoon from “Lovely Runner,” age 28. Or Cho YiHyun from “Head Over Heels,” age 25.) But when Yoona settled down and started cooking, the seriousness and dignity she projected fit her character.

    I think Yoona’s at that stage where she can’t rely on Girl’s Generation aegyo and eye twinkle anymore. She needs to show her acting chops.

    But yes, the lead actor — I forgot his name — is believable in his role. Not that he’s been doing anything demanding, though. For now, the role doesn’t require a Lee JaeWook in it.

    Note: in Episode 4, there was a kissing scene and Yoona had that stupid, dead-fish look in her eyes again. Sigh. I don’t know what’s up with her. She looks so self-conscious/self-aware in kissing scenes.

  3. How am I supposed to enjoy this then if it’s going to be the dead fish look in kissing scenes? 🤣 I can imagine the girls you mentioned in the FL’s role.

    I will try it anyway. At least there’s only 4 episodes out. I should be able to catch up. 😉

  4. PS.

    I’ll join you on The Coroner’s Diary. I like that cdrama, and the couple looked good together.

    And my meetings ended well. Thank you. They were tiring, contentious, and long, but we reached a mutually acceptable agreement. That’s all that matters. 🙂

  5. Okie. 🥰 I’m making my little notes while watching it. I agree, Wan and Chi look so good together. I really like how they have a balance between them especially when Chi gets so protective of her. ☺️

  6. Yes, the dead fish look during the kissing scene is soooo Yoona. lol.

    But the actor’s teary eyes AND the background music/OST made up for fer acting. That’s one thing kdramas do better than cdramas: the background music during the intense/dramatic moments.

    The song is by Huh Gak, “Stay With Me”

    https://youtu.be/CBQXgghfUBA?si=LtJyb9vjk0Knog23

    The lyrics talk about the guy missing her for so long, and still not being worthy of her, but he’ll say “I love you” anyway. I’ll type them down later.

  7. Yes, do that. I’ll answer you when I see your post. (Don’t forget to put emojis so I can spot your post faster.) I like that “The Coroner’s Diary” didn’t have any falling out, misunderstanding or noble idiocy. They were so stable together.

    I hope the actors will be cast in another drama soon. Perhaps a modern day drama?

  8. Ooohhh that hurts so good! I love you anyway even if I’m not worthy. 💓

  9. I’d love to see them in a modern drama. 🥰 Aus Rui Peng is another handsome one. ☺️

    The stability is the same with Who Rules The World, they just understand each other and support each other.

    Noted! 😉

  10. Yes, Au RuiPeng is definitely a looker. But he’s too skinny for me (because I’m used to men who can bulldoze 10 Au RuiPengs in their sleep). But as long as I close my eyes to his body parts below his neck, he’s a pass for me.

    You should also watch “Legend of the Female General.” The actor there is definitely your type, too. Cheng Lei/Cheng Ryan. He looks like an introvert but he’s definitely boyfriend material in this historical.

    Hahaha. After all these years, I know your type, @agdr03!

  11. Hahaha you should know it very well! 😄

    I don’t mind the skinny ones as long as they can carry the FL! 😂

    I don’t know if I’ll have time for The Legend of the Female General. I do see a lot of Cheng Lei and yes, he’s another looker too. 🥰

  12. Here, I transcribed the lyrics from Huh Gak’s song “Stay with Me.” Credit to youtube content creator named “Queen Kahio.”

    But first, here’s the context. Yoona’s character, YiJeong, finds a book with a dedication, “My dearly beloved, if you were to read this someday, may you come back to my side.” While reading it, she’s transported back in time and meets the Joseon king who’s historically infamous for being the worse tyrant in Korea. We think that he’s the one who wrote this book, and she’s the intended recipient.

    Blah blah blah.

    In Episode 4, he kisses her, and this is the background music. Mind you, he drunk himself to stupor because of some heartache/feelings of loneliness/depression. When he sees her by his side, he tears up and he kisses her.

    Where can I find love?
    If I call your name, could I reach you?
    There are still so many words I want to say
    But I cannot tell you.

    Do you know the size of my heart?
    I wait every day, hoping to see you.
    I miss you so much that even time becomes meaningless.
    Now I want to go to you.

    Please stay in my heart forever.
    I still think of you and wish for you.
    Now be by my side.
    Stay with me.
    All of my heart is still waiting for you.
    I love you.

    I can feel these feelings inside my heart.
    I wait every day, hoping you might see me.
    Even when the cold snow falls. I thin of you a lot
    Now I’ll come closer and tell you.

    Please stay in my heart forever.
    I still think of you and wish for you.
    Now be by my side.
    Stay with me.
    All of my heart is still waiting for you.
    I love you.

    I’m still not good enough for you.
    But still, I will say “I love you.”

    You rain on my heart.
    Even though I may be lacking and overflowing.
    Please look at me.
    Without you, I cannot go on.
    No night has ever erased the feelings in my heart.

    I love you.

  13. Omo! I really love the lyrics! It’s sad and raw and heartbreaking. 😍

    Thank you! I need to get on with it asap. 😉

  14. Re. Cheng Lei

    If Ren Jialun/Allen Ren (“Forever and Ever”) doesn’t step up his game in the future, I can see Cheng Lei stealing roles from him. Cheng Lei has the same quiet man/steely man and “still waters run deep” aura as Allen Ren. But Allen Ren is 36 years old and he’s handicapped by his “no kissing” stipulation.

    As for Au RuiPeng, I can see him vying for the same roles as Zhang LingHe (“Princess Royal” and “The Best Thing”).

    My money’s on Au RuiPeng, though. 🙂

    My problem with Zhang LingHe is that his male characters seem to be the beta type, understanding, empathetic, sensitive, self-sacrificing, a bit of a pushover — unlike Yang Yang who usually takes on the alpha guy roles, if you know what I mean.

    Lol. Why are we talking about Chinese actors here?!! Oh well….

  15. I’ll let you go now.

    I have to start writing my thoughts on filial duty or I’ll never finish with this kdrama. I wanted to resume writing on “Legend of the Female General” tomorrow while it’s still fresh in my mind.

  16. ZLH is more handsome but his roles are the same most of the time. He needs to up his game.

    I won’t ever be into Allen Ren because he’s married and the no kissing clause is a big no no. 😄

    They said Yang Yang is good in The Immortal Ascension but I can’t get into it. 😬

    There’s no Korean actor that’s grabbing me at the moment so the Chinese actors are fine. 😂

    Nice chatting with you Queen! 😘 Laters! 👋🏻

  17. I know I am always a little slow on working out the consequences but re the kiss and whatever that ends this episode…

    So this is his second time around and he is ‘seeing double’ as pcml has said about the ‘fit’ moment.

    Therefore in a drunken and psychically open moment he behaves with her as one would to someone known quite well, not to some stranger serving him chicken skewers.

    He says ‘oh, you’re here’ and sighs with satisfaction. He pulls her down, but by this perspective it isnt drunken assault but need of one with whom he is intimate…

    Sometime later as indicated by whirling cameras, he cries, wakes, rolls her back and, cradling her head, kisses her. That movement of his other hand down from her shoulder (which stuck out to me at first look) then points back to his previous time with her in the first time loop. A shatteringly intimate touch as if he already knows her heft.

    And then we have the problem of Yoona. At least she closes her eyes during the kiss. If it wasnt a body double.

    So many lovely moments of other actors reacting to a kiss, doing lovely acting with their eyelids, images pass thru one’s hopeful heart, but no.

  18. dear @pcml3, I put this comment here bec its ep 4, but @welmaris,@kate and @MM wrestled with the emanations of this kiss and the dining attire in the ep3 comments…

  19. @IF @Welmaris @packmule I have been thinking through the ideas of open loop and closed loops. Not sure I have it clear. This is my take. A closed loop is when nothing changes-the characters are in a repetitive loop with no end and no beginning. What will happen has already happenned. On the other hand, an open loop is when changes can be made to the future by actions in the past. Usually in these loops, the characters are unaware of having travelled previously. New timelines may be created.

    So I wonder about the significance of the scenes where we see buterflies. Maybe more than one significance, as Packmule3 has explored. I am remembering that I wished I had paid attention to which scenes the butterflies were in when I was watching “Dream within a Dream”. I think those may have been the scenes where the 2 “timelines” were close to each other and maybe even overlapping.

    Thinking this way gives us a different way of viewing the kiss, as IF suggests and the instance when the FL calls the Dowager Queen halmeoni which I think packmule has suggested.

    @Welmaris Thank you for being alert to the possibiity of other characters’ time travelling. I had let his comment about being a dead person slough off. I was thinking he meant that he had faked his death. When the evil character can time travel I become very afraid!

    I am also wondering if the King is being slowly poisoned which might account for some of his erratic behaviours. So having a new chef might be even more disruptive to others’ intentions than I had previously thought. Makes me wonder about the taster and what might happen to her.

  20. According to my reasoning there should be butterflies in the kiss scene! I will have to check, purely out of academic interest.

  21. You addressed all I can‘t think of. I‘m only here to express my happy wondering! I‘m looking forward to your thoughts about filial piety

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  23. @Packmule3, I am having trouble reconciling King Yi Heon’s memory of a gentle, caring, nurturing mother with the historical Queen Yun who was deposed, then sentenced to death by poisoning. Queen Yun had a reputation for being temperamental, jealous of the king’s concubines, one of whom she poisoned. She is also rumored to have scratched, and scarred, the king’s face with her fingernails. There is no official record of that incident.

    I suppose we need to consider the source when given information about he deposed queen in the drama. Her bereft son, feeling wronged, would likely only retain memories that justify his drive for vengeance. Political enemies would portray her as deserving of removal and execution, not only as punishment, but necessary for stabilizing the kingdom.

  24. @Packmule3, right after finishing Legend of the Female General, I rewatched Forever and Ever (with a foray into the first five episodes of One and Only). I wanted to compare Ryan Cheng and Allen Ren. As you say, there are similarities in the ML characters in these dramas. But in Forever and Ever, Allen Ren plays Zhousheng Chen as timid. Push and pull between him and the FL is mostly the FL pulling and his following with scepticism. The times he takes charge and displays deeper emotions are when Shiyi is lying unconscious in bed. I feel the ML character in Legend of the Female General, Xiao Jue, exhibited more range of emotion as he interacted with his FL character, He Yan.

  25. @Welmaris,

    I’ll move this discussion about Chinese actors to a different thread when I have time. For now, I’ll just share with you what I watched on marcusspeaks’ youtube channel last week. I’ll post it here if I find it.

    Marcusspeaks, my favorite source of info on Chinese entertainment on youtube, shared the rankings of actors according to investment/budget and marketing/promotions allocated to them by the cdrama streaming sites. On the top tier is the S+ actors, followed by the S actors, next by the A+ actors, then the A actors.

    The tiers are further subdivided according to the age group.

    At the S+ (highest level) are:

    Somebody named Hu Ge (for those born in 1980s)
    Then Zhang Ruoyan and Cheng Yi (for those born between 1980 and 1985)
    Then Xiao Zhan (for those born between 1990 and 1984)

    I obviously don’t know these fellows.

    Among the S (second highest level) are:
    Leo Luo, Allen Ren, Jing Boram, Chen Xiao and Huang Xuan (for those actors born between 1985 and 1990)
    Tan Jianci, Johnny Huang, Yang Yang, Simon Gong and Bai Jingting (for those born between 1990 and 1995)
    Leo Wu, Dylan Wang and Wang Yibo (for those born between 1995 and 2000)

    Allen Ren is rated as an S actor. We know a lot of the actors here at this level.

    Then comes the A+ actors. They are many, but Marcus named one per age group.

    William Chen (the 1985 group)
    Li Xian (the 1990 group)
    Deng Wei and Zhang Linghe (the 1995-1999 group)
    Arthur Chen (the 2000 group)

    Then the A actors.
    Leon Zhang (the 1985 group)
    Zhang WangYi, Hu Yitian and Cheng Lei (the 1990-1994 group) Woohoo! Our general made it! So did my fave, Zhang WangYi!
    Chen Zheyuan (the 1995-1999 group)
    Wang Xingyue (the 2000 group)

    According to this list, Allen Ren > Cheng Lei. Cheng Lei’s star is ascending, I must say. He seems to be the “it” boy for now (or he’s just hardworking because he has three projects released one after the other).

    Note, however, this isn’t about the actor’s acting skills. It’s about the power of the actor to attract investors, get the drama project greenlit, generate fan buzz, and drive up the rating views.

    Essentially, it’s about how bankable the actor is. And screenwriters are keenly aware of the importance of bankable actors to get their script on the air, and the show deemed a success.

    I’ve *scanned* some of his other dramas (Demon Hunter, Under the Power, Miss Crow and Mr. Lizard, and something Nirvana). And I didn’t get the appeal of his dour face until “Forever and Ever.”

  26. Last response on this thread because I must move on, @Welmaris. 🙂

    Two things:

    First thing. The beauty of this drama’s timeloop/timeslip is that we’re allowed to have two stories. We don’t need to “reconcile” anything because each story can stand on its own.

    On one hand, there’s the historical story with the historical tyrant Yeonsangun, and the historical Queen Yoon who was supposedly jealous of her husband’s concubines (who wouldn’t be?), poisoned one of them, scratched her husband’s face, was ordered deposed by her mother-in-law the Queen Dowager, and was poisoned while in exile.

    Then, on the other hand, we have the alternate reality – this drama – with a Joseon king named YiHeon. As I said in my write-up about butterfly effects, anything can happen in this alternate reality.

    As of Episode 4, the “facts” about this alternate reality are:

    1. King YiHeon’s mother has been dead for 20 years.

    2. All YiHeon knows is that she died in exile so he’s ordered someone, a certain Principal Drafter Yi JangGun, to investigate her death.

    3. According to YiHeon, “it had been many years since he ordered Principal Drafter Yi JangGun to find the draft of the historical record.” But after his long patient wait [note: he said “years”], the record is finally about to be delivered into his hand. This historical record is presumably about his mother’s death.

    4. On the same day that JiYeon places first in the cooking competition, i.e., “the 20th day of the Month of Gyeonjin, which fell on the Gihae day,” Yi JangGun is assassinated; his body is missing. Yi JangGun was on his way to meet with the King’s guard to deliver the historical record.

    5. Noteworthy: upon learning of Yi JangGun’s death/disappearance, the king wonders “What crime could my mother have committed that they are trying so hard to hide it?”

    I find this question odd because he presumes that his mother was GUILTY of a crime. He thinks that JangGun was assassinated to cover up a crime that his mother had committed.

    Normally, as a filial son, he should have assumed that his mother was innocent (or was unjustly framed and accused of a crime), and that whoever hired the assassins didn’t want him to discover the truth about his mother’s innocence.

    Do you see what I mean? There was no presumption of innocence.

    6. After the assassination of this Principal Drafter of his, King YiHeon begins to wonder whether all of them – from the Queen Dowager, to the Queen stepmother, the concubines of his late father, and the ministers – had been involved in his mother’s death.

    Now, I find this interesting, too, because all along I thought he already suspected them of being involved.

    Second thing. When considering the source of information about the deposed queen or anything else, it’s important to remember that SOMETIMES (I say sometimes, not all the time) the “history is written by the victors.”

    The historical Yeonsangun was obviously the loser when the coup wrested power from him and rebels succeeded in deposing him. So, it’s his antis, opponents and enemies who wrote the historical accounts about him. It’s no wonder then that the revisionists and apologists are trying to make a case that Yeonsangun was pretty much maligned, and that there are two sides to every story.

  27. @Packmule,

    Marcus Here! is a great resource. I follow his count down every week of the top 10 shows on the web and on tv.

    The list you mentioned was fascinating especially when it came to people who were missed out of the upper echelons including Zhau Lusi.

  28. Marcus puts out 2 episodes a week and the Sunday episode is the one with the top tens – the shows that are doing the best in China. His tone is carefully neutral throughout with occasional expressions of enthusiasm for a particular show. He also provides forecasts for new shows and top level industry news: https://www.youtube.com/@Marcushere

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