Is this our last rewatch??? Come and join us, Wednesday, Dec 30th.
Start times:
6 am EST (Eastern Standard Time)
3 am PST (California side)
10 pm in Sydney, Australia (@agdr03’s time)
11 am in the UK
7 pm in Singapore, Philippines, etc.
6 pm in Indonesia
4:30 pm in India
@Jayne, were you asking for gifs of Dosan on the bike? Here they are.
Gif source: seoul-leaf’s tumblr
More gifs:
Gif source: damn-salvatore’s tumblr
Gif source: cuddlybitch’s tumblr
credit: cuddlybitch’s tumblr
And this is one of my favorite gifs of JP. hahaha
Noooo.. πππ still can’t move on.. Because it’s you (DoSan), You’re the reason (DoSan) π€£
Excited again to have a rewatch with you all!!!
3rd to the last gif is my fave. Canβt get over the longing eyes of Dosan like he canβt believe that Dalmi felt the same way because itβs him. That was so believable!
Yes, Dosan on bike gif!!! Thank you @PM3!
The other gifs are great too, especially the jaw-clenching of Dosan.
Like @Ella, I still canβt move on. See you all on Wednesday for the last (huhuhu) rewatch.
I’ll miss this one again! Huhu
Enjoy, Team Knitter! I look forward to reading your live commentaries. <3
@Ella @Janey whenever Dosan clenches his jaw *swoon* π
Awww last rewatch!
I’m here ππ»ββοΈ
Itβs freezing in my office (forgot to turn on the heater π€ͺ) so Iβm trying to set up in one of my sonsβ bedroom. I might be a little late. Just start without me.
No worries. Just let me know when you’re ready and warm π
Hello everyone.. ohh sad that it will be the last rewatch.. but itβs been a really great journey with you all.. ππ
Hi @moonstar512
Me too feeling nostalgic now π
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Let’s go.
Don’t you just like Suzie’s hair when it sways in the wind like that? It looks so silky. What hair products does she use anyway?
Why Ep 15?
– Because I love DoSan even more in this Episode π€£ He’s still the old DoSan with his heart in the right place but he level up and in his own word stronger
– SamSan tech back together
– Elevator confrontation scene, super hot DoSan showed why he’s the MVP and DalMi one and only choice
– DoDal ultimate reunion *squeee*
She’s the brand ambassador for Kerasys π€£
I like how Suzy got in the car and smiled at Dosan but Dosan was busy looking at his laptop. It looked to me as if he was making sure that everything was ready for the demo, but Suzy was confident that HE had everything under control.
DoSan exuded confidence now, before during SamSan tech presentation or demo day he was jittery what a difference a week/3 years made lol.. Also love the way DalMi and DoSan keep looking and smiling at each other for assurance.
YoungSand and ChulSan also on a different level up the way they chew Morning AI and the twins ππ» *kerasys hair flip* now instead of looking stylish they look childish in comparison.
lol. I’m going to check out their hair product then. hahaha. Product Placement works for me!!!
Yes. I like that Samsan Tech is back with a vengeance. π
I want the cactus doll, I actually found the one making it for the show but they don’t sell it π€£
These are the names I never bother to remember:
Cheongmyeong Company
Studio Jakdu
the cousin’s name
Dalmi is now praying in the car. Dosan is multi-tasking: he’s monitoring his laptop and Dalmi’s face at the same time.
@Ella I also want the cactus doll. I hope they sell it. May I know the maker?
I wrote this but I thought I put it up today π
On DoSan “just in case”
Just in case was uttered 3 times in this episode,
1st was YoungSan quoting what DolSan said to Alex
2nd was DalMi asking jp’s opinion on smart city project
3rd was DoSan telling DalMi the reason he worked on the smart city project in 2STO
The words used here is different, DalMi said just in case “νΉμ” (hog si) this is the common word, if you use english-korean translator for just in case you will get ‘hogsi’.
Now the word that DoSan used was different, it was “λ§μ νλ” (man-e hana) which means one in ten thousand or very rare.
YoungSan and ChulSan understood that this was DoSan turning his one in ten thousand hope/dream into reality and they looked like a proud parent no wonder SaHa was confused lol.. and like @packmule3 wrote DoSan is the MVP after all π€©
Diane!!!
Do you buy souvenirs from the kdramas you watch? π
bluffing is easy – But if you have to pay the price it will not be cheap . You know that? says evil step dad (is that a threat?? or just a fact?)
Jo
@Diane
of course instagram: @lms_knitting
website: http://www.loveknit.net
Startup official merchandise actually include those RGB scrub DoSan knit for Halmeoni and some stationery.
@ella i thought they sell the cactus doll because i read it somewhere that they got overwhelmed by the orders.. lol
@packmule yeeesss i really like suzy hair in that scene.. made me regret the decision to cut my long hair lol.
I am smiling ear to ear whenever seeing the samsan guys, dalmi and saha are looks happy and comfortable to each other..
I also like the scenes of Chulsan and Saha here…
Hello π!!! Canβt miss the last rewatch so here I am.
Chulsan avara_lovers (ais vanilla ratte) reaction to Saha confession kiss is so adorable, him clutching his heart aaaww..
Wow! Thanks for this extra information, Ella.
Yes. I heard Dalmi say “hog si” which I thought was like… perhaps, maybe, if there’s a possibility.
But I like that Dosan said βλ§μ νλβ or as Ella said “one in ten thousand.” Because this is in character. He would express himself mathematically like say the probability and the “odds” of an event happening.
In effect, he was beating the odds. That is, despite his calculations and all logic, he succeeded.
@moonstar512
ah yes it looks like they’re selling it now I was looking for it right after StartUp end
Yes, that group picture is wow π€© everyone look so gorgeous. SamSan tech celebration is always a highlight it brings me joy. And the way DoSan smile freely here.
What time is it in your corner of the world? Janey?
California time! So 3:24AM. π
For the love of Start up. π
Dosan dresses better after his 3 years in USA. All 3 do π
Intersting how ChulSan is considered so cute … He does have some good lines but not the usual ex model ex-singer type?
jo
lol.
Chulsan is cute in a puppy. I thought that if I were Saha, I’d go for Youngsan. But now that I see Youngsan and InJae standing together while watching the demo… I wouldn’t mind that noona and donsaeng romance. lol.
@packmule3
Yup my ear is familiar with hog si for in any case/perhaps so I looked up what ChulSan was actually saying in the korean subtitle just like that forever is normally yeong-wonhi π€£
Thanks @Ella for the language nuance. We miss this a lot since we rely on the English subtitles.
On the anagrams, there are apps to provide these so we snicker that they had to do it manually. π
@jo3edc
Chulsan upgrade come a long way since his stint in CLOY π€£
Gosh! Iβm in a pre-new yearβs eve party. So hard to multi-task. Hahaha!
@pm3 I donβt normally. But I got Mang Tae the nightmare doll from IONTBO. LOL! I really want the cactus. I also ordered the CEO/Mentor/SST shirts.
@Ella thanks I will check. Iβm asking my friend from Korea to buy stuff for me.
3:24 am!! hahaha!!! Janey! I must give you a prize. How’s that for dedication?!
Oh wow Janey hugs from the other side of the world you’re amazing π€π
Fave scene stuck in elevator – did you notice that Dosan was addressing Dalmi and HKP butted in the conversation? Dalmi only had one sentence in. The rest became a JP and Dosan exchange.
This ep and 16 is really about girl power. I love a strong woman going after what she wants.
Chulsan is soo cute. His character in CLOY is also cute and funny. I initially thought Saha will be part of the Dalmi-Dosan love triangle or sheβd go after Yongsan.
In Ep 3, we see Dosan driving the car and they both saw the fireworks. In Ep 15, now we see Dalmi as the safety driver. But Dosanβs stare is still the same from Ep 3 (when he said Dalmi was pretty) and from Ep 15.
my bad since I normally skip jp scene lol.. turns out DalMi also said the same thing, turns out DalMi and DoSan really are on the same wavelength.
I love DalMi’s face when the elevator open. She really wish she’s anywhere else.
@Janey My fave scene also. Dosan handled it so well. HJP and his pettiness! *Eyes Rolling*
Awwww the look on Dosanβs face when he thought Dalmi and HJP are together.
The most awkward scene everrrr and they all acted so well.
What to do with petty grown up man? I seriously think he’s more obsessed with beating DoSan than being in love with DalMi. He looked so proud of himself at delivering that jab to DoSan and didn’t even noticed the way DalMi’s looking at DoSan or her fallen face. Idiot move scale 10/10.
I like the Background music playing during Dosanβs elevator speech while JP was speechless hahaha plus the way Dosan expressed his speech with increasing intensity but at the same time so calm and collected (like literally it was like a whisper to JP when he said how could he forget sailing off without map)
And I loved how Dalmi also had her eyes for Dosan only!!
@Janey elevator scene! – sailing off without a map could kill you – but I never regretted it π just like Dalmi and her choices.
And Dalmi follows Dosan off the elevator although originally going to the basement.
@Gen
Yup DalMi only had eyes on DoSan and the way she just follow DoSan without even a glanced at jp who is still holding DalMi’s lunch bag super lol..
Sailing off without a map for Dosan was Marvelous
While
Music box for Dalmi was wonderful
Is it just the translation again. Did Dosan really meant βpracticeβ. Gosh I remember the βhateβ again from some fans about this scene and the sailing off without a map. Everyone suddenly become risk management experts. Hahaha!
I feel the love and hugs!!! And a prize, wee!!!
Lucky to be in this company. Cheers!
@Ella the way Dosan stepped out of the elevator… so confident and hot!
Intersting how you can sign a lease with the wax thingy (almost like the olden days of wax seals)
Wonder how that works?
@Diane
Really was in awe about people taking the sailing off without a map literally when there was a more deeper meaning to it aside from the business side. It was like the reason why Dosan looked at Dalmi was because he was also telling her that despite Dalmi not loving him back, he didnβt even and will never regret loving her and doing all the things they did 3 years ago.
BTW, here’s what Tarzan was able to do:
Drive at a fast speed
But brake for a pedestrian
Stop for traffic lights
Drive through an unexpected change of lanes (it wasn’t following the white lines but had to go between the orange barrels)
Slow down at the toll plaza (good job, Dosan!) so toll reader could read their “EZ pass”
Turn on lights in low-light zones (it’ll need this for foggy areas too)
Change lanes
Detect slow traffic and avoid it
Weave through traffic (hahaha)
Avoid kittens
@packmule yongsan and injae will be in another drama together called forced cohabitation if im not mistaken.. they looked nice together.. haha
@janey wow you are so dedicated! 3 am!
@ella i love dalmiβs eyes looking at dosan at the elevator. The way she look at him told many things to us..
Btw, why do i think that hjp is much nicer when heβs drunk..
Dalmi following Dosan from elevator – yes, follow the trailblazer, leave the naysayer!
When he said βIβm stronger nowβ and strutted like a model after… swoon! π
@PM3 wow!! Tarzan is really great!!!
@Gen exactly! I also donβt understand (until now). I remember even fighting with some stans telling them to read up on the history of Netflix where they are watching this show. It was bec of trailblazers like Dosan who took risks and sailed off without a map that is why we are enjoying all these luxuries. Haha!
I like the guys’ loyalty. Saha asked them what they meant about “just in case,” but Chulsan kept mum.
I wasnt able to join the one last sunday but i am here now!! Heheh
I feel like 2 San carrying Do San was an adlib. I love them all as SamSan tech but I really really love 3santech dynamics they’ve been through it all. Huhu
TBH I prefer seeing Dosanβs neck… black or white shirt with a blazer… Wow!
@Janey IKR! When he said βIβm stronger nowβ and strutted like a model… Love it! You can now see the difference of being so much in love but confident vs the so much in love but scared that Dalmi might leave him anytime bec of Mr Han.
@Diane
DoSan actually never said practise that word ‘μ°μ΅’ yeon-seup was said by jp, it was his interpretation of what DoSan was saying. He basically said if you do it once, it will be easier the next time, then after jp blabbering about practice DoSan said It’ll be a learning experience.
@Diane truly!! Until now I donβt understand.
Plus, they also said how annoyed they were when Dosan didnβt want to return the letters when I took it as Dosan might think that he only had the letters since JP got the girl already hahaha.
@jo3edc
In Korea they used seal in addition to signature, because seal are handmade there are no two identical one, that is what my friend told me
Same!! I also prefer Dosan without the turtle neck especially in Ep 16 when the OST of K. Will was playing
@Ella Ok good to know he didnβt say it… Bec people are saying Dosan wants to practice and waste money and resources (basically be reckless considering their past).
Dosanβs parents are the best. I liked them both esp in the latter episodes.
abe-ji (father) – abe for father in hebrew?
sincero (really) – sincero for sincere in romance languages
this is apart from all those computer english words filtereing into all languages …
I am a relative newbie to kdramas (our first lady PM visited Korea, that was the only thing I knew about Korea except for the North South war … in the 50s)
The drunk scene – so in vino veritas!
Dosan at this stage was unsure of Dalmi … nooooo…
Hi @foreverinreverie
I also feel the whole scene was adlib lol.. I saw the bts and SaHa carrying DalMi was adlib by Stephanie
Yes, Gen, in the context of the story, Tarzan is great. But in real life…that technology is already out there. π
Like yesterday, on my way home, this small KIA suddenly switched lane and cut in front of me.
Before I could step on my brakes, I felt my vehicle braking for me. The light on my dashboard flashed “brake” and a warning sound came on.
And my car is three years old. π
So Dalmi is right when she talked about the project with Dosan. Tarzan’s features were good but they were already available in German, Japanese and American cars.
LOL @ Mr Hanβs lipstick and blush.
I have to give credit to DoSan’s mom, you can tell that DoSan’s good manner and politeness came from his mom when she shush DoSan and told him not to be rude.
Btw I think DoSan look extremely handsome drunk π€£π€£π€£
HJP said βwork on your self esteemβ to Dosan in the morning as if it was Dosanβs fault because he had low self esteem.. whoβs the one who made Dosan feel that way in the first place.. hhh..
@moonstar512
leopard can’t change its spots, he just had to put down people because probably it make him feel better about himself. Just like DoSan is a good kind person at heart even to someone like jp.
Remind me about this “Forced Cohabitation” Moonstar512. I might give it a look-see for old times’ sake.
Yes. HJP sounds nicer when he’s drunk, doesn’t he? Because they’re on equal level. He doesn’t have to put on this “I’m superior than you” attitude.
Drinking is useful to the Korean office culture because there’s no “hierarchy” while you’re drunk. You can say whatever to your boss’ face and NOT be punished the following day because you said your complaints while you were drunk.
Weird thing, if you ask me.
it is enough money and memories? JYP says .. like an investment – very like an investor … not a trailblazer
@Moonstar – arrogant til the end, HJP was. Instead of apology, itβs like he made the decision for Dosan and Dalmi to be together and gave way to Dosan when in the first place, Dalmi does not like him romantically.
I did not like that there was no apology for gaslighting.
DalMi’s face when she watched that ChulSan’s video cracking me up. And this is basically the second time we saw her losing sleep in this Episode with DoSan occupying her head.
I know, Janey! He did two swoonworthy things in a span of minutes. His short lecture on how to be a trailblazer to JP, and then his “I’m stronger” remark to Dalmi.
JP can’t be a trailblazer. He couldn’t even be a proper mentor.
I wish they re-did their magazine interview and it was about Dosan being a “trailblazer.” I’d take a trailblazer to a fake sherpa any day of the week.
Yes and then JP stans were like amazed about how JP let Dalmi go when he didnβt even have the right to let Dalmi go.
Plus JP got the idea of letting go from Dosan as well during their drunk scene. When Dosan told JP that he will love dalmi forever despite being in a one sided love
Yes, about HJP telling Dosan to “work on his self-esteem.” Talk about GASLIGHTING, moonstar512. hahaha.
Who’s that idiot JP fangirl/boy on twitter who ranted about Dosan’s “gaslighting”? She/he should stop using the word to sound smart because it’s having the opposite effect.
Letting go of his obsession of beating DoSan on winning DalMi sure. Undoing his own lie albeit in condescending manner sure. But not in the way jp fangirls meant, DalMi was never his to let go lol..
All their kisses, Dosan is on the left side of the screen and Dalmi on the right. Except for the almost kiss in the office. I think itβs because of the jaw clenching view for closeups. I watched NJH scenes from other dramas and itβs only in SU that the jaw clenching was prominent or more noticeable. Or is it only me? Hahaha!
Well the stans canβt get over the letters until now so imagine how mad they are when #GoodBoy gave way to Dosan (like as if).
The kiss!!! Our best boy and girl are just so competitive in their kissing scene. LOL
do you kill flies because they are big – you kill them bevause they are annoying (I feel like the Wayne and Shuster skit – I like that saying π
when JYP says sorry after calling himself a loser – Dalmi’s sorry is also different!it’s not obsomida … (
@packmule3
funnily enough all the words jp fangirl use to hate on DoSan actually describe their fav jp; manipulative, agressive, gaslighting, childish LOL π€£
@Janey yes the jaw clenching is very prominent here. I donβt know if itβs him trying to control himself bec he likes Dalmi (or Suzy in real life) so much. Haha
Yes omg the Kiss!!! This was a passionate one and you could tell in their eyes that they were both longing for each other
I agree, JP’s remark was said in a derogatory manner likee what was the point? Instead of being a good person and being a bigger man he still used words that would make Do San a smaller person. But we all know who is a much bigger man of the two. Like i forgive him but at the same time i dont haha seriously I take full offense when people rank him in best second leads because even in defeat he was petty.
@packmule3 I just rechecked the drama. It is called βthe falling cohabitationβ or βfrightening cohabitationβ. It will be aired in 2021 in tvN, the leads will be Hye Ri (Doksun R1988) and Jang Kiyong. Injae and Yongsan will be the supporting characters but I donβt know will they be a couple or not..
@Diane
Competitive in their kissing scene π€£ trying to up one another LOL
Somehow I felt that DoSan told DalMi about what jp said to him, that is why DalMi felt sorry for him.
@foreverinreverie What I canβt accept is that he even get his own Swoon games/interviews and award where he is a sure win. The SLS was really strong on this one. *eyes rolling*
Hey, Diane! Did you also notice how Dosan’s cheek twitch after kissing her? Nice. I thought the actor had an expressive face.
I gave jp an award of best worst misinterpret SL ever. So funny that the actor himself keep saying that jp is always angry but the fangirl can’t see it.
@packmule3 I feel like all his facial muscles are tensed (in a good way) whenever they kiss. Agree very expressive esp the eyes. I remember in the BTS the director was teasing him that he kissed Suzy like how he licks/eat ice cream. LOL!
In Habaek and Weightlifting his kissing scenes were not as instense/hot/romantic.
Can I just say confident Do San is giving me so much life. The air of confidence he exudes is not flashy it’s just perfect. I can’t fully express it into words but i know you guys get what i mean. Everytime i see people say he has no character development I want to shake them so badly and say wake up open your eyes like the change in his demeanor from three years ago is off the charts. Also I would like to say I really liked the part that he said Sorry to Dalmi after the elevator scene, he is always thinking of Dalmi. They were still not together here but he was still willing to help her out on the smart city project/will still support her no matter what her decision is. Do San truly the best man.
I had fun silently rewatching with everyone!
Yes, the ragey fandom around JP’s character is mystifying. It’s nice to have found a group that appreciates Dosan. Another interesting contrast between the two is how Dosan’s growth required him to become stronger / tougher, while JP’s required that he soften up some.
Thank you packmule for creating this safe space π
Thank you President Ella and everyone for the company!
Happy Holidays to all!
@Diane
In which BTS did the director say this? Is it the SOOP one?
@foreverinreverie
character development as in he used to be a jerk now he’s slightly less of a jerk? I think the fangirl confused the two lol..
@foreverinreverie Agree. Plus you feel his pure and unconditional love for Dalmi. #BestBoy indeed!
When I ask some stans what kind of character development are they expecting or would make them satisfied? Even with the lines because they nitpicked on everything. Dosan breathes and they have something to say. And the attack I get when I say βgood boy is not a good boy after allβ. OMG! I donβt think Iβll get over this unless KSH releases a statement defending Dosanβs character and him admitting he wasnβt really a good boy. LOL
@Diane
I’ve seen my friends uploaded a selca with their rl bf with captions me & my mentor with teamjp hashtag got me praying inside hoping for their sake that none of those men are like jp
Yes packmule3 NJH has an expressive face in this drama.. I watched in his interview that he watches eddie radmayne in theory of everything and the danish girl for many times.. I guess he observes radmayneβs various expression in those movies a lot..
@Diane lol I stopped following theSw**n because I think they are so biased. Like why? π π π
Watching start up and watching the hjp fans attitudes made me unfollowing some accounts from my soc-med platforms. I just canβt understand their perspective as much as I tried to. I donβt know if itβs doable or not, but I thought KimSeonho the actor who played HJP should have known that his fan attacking his costars in the drama in social media. Idk but I previously wished that he would say some things to his fans like βplease respect the author, and other actors tooβ hahaha.. well I guess he doesnβt care about this, or he canβt do anything about it.. he just enjoying his rising popularity as much as possible..
@Ella I canβt remember which one but I think its the korean version. One of the fans commented that it was what the director said.
Same I have friends as well. But I think it was more the looks and the sob story. They really didnβt see the βred flagsβ of Mr Han because they focused too much on Dosanβs. Hahaha
That last meeting with the reporter, you could see mischief in SamSan tech’s eyes. And that Morning Group villain are toothless.
@moonstar512 Yes Swoon was really disappointing. Very pro-KSH/Good Boy. They even had a poll comparing Dosan with the guy from World of Married. Like seriously?!
I think he is enjoying his popularity. He should say thank you to NJH and Suzy and tell his fans to behave. I even saw on Twitter recently that Shin Min Ah is getting hate for being βolderβ than KSH. Fans are complaining that his next drama is with an older actress. So toxic!!!
@ella hahaha no I was talking about Do San and his character development. But I agree that’s JP’s char. A jerk and 3 years later a slightly less of a jerk lol.
Welcome to the blog, @ KT. Glad you can join the rewatch.
@foreverinreverie
It was my inner sarcasm LOL. With DoSan what he was lacking was self confidence and his breakup with DalMi and 3 years of running away made him tougher but i’m grateful that he’s still the same great guy he always was.
Really? Do you mind sharing the clip, Ella? I like that the JP actor tried to WARN the fans (even the interviewer) that JP was NOT really meant to end up with Dalmi but the @#$@ interviewer and fans were too crazy to understand him.
Who’s that interviewer? Is she from Swoon show too?
Hi KT thank you for joining the rewatch πHappy holiday to you too.
Wait. I’ll write about the elevator scene on the blog. π It was one of my drafts that I was going to delete. lol.
I definitely like the confident Dosan but he still gets teary-eyed in the right moments. I love the crying SST during the final visit to their office. Theyβre the best buddies who have been there in the worst and best of times, where you are comfortable and even encouraged to cry (after CODA acceptance video, practice of telling his dad he is not CEO and the last visit). Squad goals!
@packmule3
I think in that same interview with the swoon was where he said that the difference between him and jp is that he can’t be as harsh with words. Also in one of the bts he said jp always angry but I can’t remember which one, will send it to you if I can find it.
@ella Ahhhh i see hahahahah. Yes, for a second there I thought San Fran would change Do San completely, glad that’s not the case.
Jp’s action in this episode is so off for meee like if they really wanted to SLS to work for him they shouldve shown he likes Dalmi more openly in the earlier episodes and not when Do San came back from the states. I feel like they were pushing that the love triangle really happened when it wasnt really that much. Idk maybe its just me lol
@Janey
Yup SamSan tech is squad goal. I love seeing this kind of solid friendship. The way YoungSan and ChulSan support DoSan and at Ep16 when they said let’s be good to each other πππ isn’t that the fundamental to be kind, be good, be nice to each other.
@Packmule3
Yes please don’t delete it ππ»ββοΈ
@packmule3
Found it, this is the behind the scene
https://youtu.be/SR0jeu6oCEg
at 2:40 mark someone said to ksh, jp is always angry and he said yes, always. he’s a sorehead LOL
Andddd scene.
It scared me not gonna lie when they were talking to the reporter and spilling all the beans. I was praying so hard JP does not save them from that so I was really cheering so hard when he got there late and that cheongmyeong company was handling it very well.
Thank you for this last rewatch. I am going to miss this community so much. Happy Holidays everyone!
Yes Dosan is still really very genuine and nice only confident and tougher now. And that kongjaban scene with his mom π₯Ίπ₯Ίπ₯Ί
@Janey i love that crying scene too! Yes SST for squad goals…! I have said this, but i will say it again.. I envy their friendship.. i am also inspired so much by their friendship. I imagined that they would be really really great mentors in the future. The way that they stayed humble after all is so π₯Ί
Ohh and Hi KT! It is so great to see another new names in start up posts.. which one is your favorite scene?
@Gen
That scene, let’s just say I’m not as gracious, DoSan let jp slept on his bed. DoSan packed jp food to go. He even replied politely when jp was back to his old-ass-self.
oh gosh, Ella!
When I watch these behind-the-scenes footages, I understand why the Dosan actor’s costar would fall for him. Why, he’s just like his character!! Dorky but a gentle soul. I like how he takes the backseat and lets Suzy take the lead. He’s reacting TO HER needs.
And yeahhh… I don’t think the JP actor is like JP in real life. I watch him in 2D1N and he’s boringly goody-goody two shoes there. Lately, though, he’s taken on a different persona to “liven” things up.
Thanks for the link!!!
@Ella and the fact he let JP wear his checkered pajamas HAHAHA why does dosan have that hahaha
Same here, Ella. I wouldn’t have offered JP my bed if I were Dosan.
lol. Dosan DOES get over his hang-over quickly, doesn’t he? I couldn’t believe how quickly he got over his hang-over at Dalmi’s place. I thought that was a writer’s error. But this is the second time.
He drank like crazy but he was up and about helping in the kitchen the following morning.
@packmule3
Yup even Suzy said that Nam Joo Hyuk is just like DoSan on how pure he is. He always come up with lame jokes. And on the other bts during the hut scene, it was outdoor shooting and very cold, every time the director said cut he automatically gave Suzy hotpack they caption him as hotpack fairy lol..
Ahhhh… “Jjak sa rang” — one-sided love, unrequited love.
JP owed Dosan an apology. He was the one who planted the idea in Dosan’s head that he and Dalmi were dating. I was expecting him to come clean and apologize to Dosan when they were drinking. Instead, he blamed Dosan for his insecurities. I couldn’t believe that JP got away with his sabotage again.
The BTS were great watch! It showed how much fun they had while shooting. They were always laughing. And NJH is a sweet guy irl.
@packmule3
even drunk, jp tried to goad DoSan by using the word “one sided love” to described DoSan’s love for DalMi, how was he able to still be manipulative under the influence of alcohol puzzle me π
Finishing the last ep. So happy! I really love StartUp! Definitely one of my kdrama higlights for 2020!
Thank you guys for the fun ride (Day 1 when I first posted my comment up to the last rewatch).
Looking forward to reading your last post about SU @packmule3.
Happy New Year everyone!
lol. Hotpack fairy. Did he have his own?
Awwww… I guess he’s the type of boyfriend who’ll bring his girlfriend a hot water bottle when she’s having menstrual cramps — wait! what drama did I see this in? A boyfriend buying his GF heating pad for her tummy ache??? Rats. I better ask @ agdr03.
@PM3 – I agree 100% on the apology.
My 2 beefs with the writer is Ms Yoon tolerating JP behavior and not correcting him; and the 2nd is no apology from JP on gaslighting Dosan on phantom relationship with Dalmi. π
With variety show, the character is decided between the performer and the writer, i think because of ksh sudden popularity they try to milk it by creating a different persona for him maybe something more akin to his drama persona?
@Janey
jp never apologized to DoSan till the end for all he’s done, i think his last arc of redemption was him telling DalMi that he’s not the Nam Do San in the letter. I wonder if DalMi knew all the horrible things jp did or say to DoSan will she let it go?
@packmule what drama is it? I want to know too.. I love the scene in βGo Back Coupleβ drama where the Male Lead bought drugs for his girlfriend and he just accompanying her and comforting her while she has menstrual cramps. The male who really care when the female having menstrual cramp is so awww β i think.
About apologizing… I kinda wonder why.. why the writer made JP like didnβt realize his wrongdoings to Dosan, and didnβt apologize too.. is there something that i miss?
Agree, @Janey.
I thought the writer skated over JP’s problems in these following scenes:
1. Director Yoon made light JP’s derogatory remarks as “candid feedback”
2. Youngsan apologized to JP for blaming him for his brother’s death — what the heck?
3. The assistant tolerated JP disrobing him in public and demeaning him at work
4. JP never apologized to Dosan for his derogatory remarks.
5. JP never took responsibility for his part in the 2STO fiasco. What did he do after he ran to the 2STO building? He knew it was an acqhiring, and he didn’t warn Dosan afterwards because, as Saha said, he had an invested interest in splitting Dosan and Dalmi apart.
5. JP never apologized to Dosan for dissing the Noongil project. I wanted to hear him apologize for telling Dosan that he was wasting “caviar” on stew. “Eat it, JP!” lol.
6. JP never apologized to Dosan for spreading misinformation about him and Dalmi. What the heck? How unprofessional. If I could only have a scene with him offering the ring/necklace/earrings/jewelry to Dalmi and Dalmi giving it back to him, I’d be content.
Why waste caviar on a stew? Little did jp knew that stew was his beloved Halmeoni.
I can’t remember, moonstar512. I’ve to ask @agdr03. She’s better at remembering than I am.
After I’m done with a kdrama, I start compressing the “memory files” so to speak, or else I’ll run out of space.
I like that JP apologized to Grandma.
But I wanted him to apologize to Dosan, too. We didn’t get any big reaction from JP — and I blame the actor for that. I don’t think he was THAT good enough to express guilt, shock, dismay, etc.
Yeah. sure. he could cry buckets (cry me a river, an Amazon river if needed) but I don’t think he could do more than shed tears on cue.
hahaha. I’m sure the lurking JP fangirls’ heads are exploding at my comment here. Good. Happy New Year to them.
@packmule3
Never saw this ksh actor before StartUp, I skipped two cops because I don’t think JoJeongSeok-HyeRi pairing would work, 100 Days My Prince never get to start that as well. But I remember reading up on StartUp even before the drama began how ksh and kang hanna will cover the acting part while belittling Suzy and NamJooHyuk.
I might be bias but on scenes like Elevator scene or the drunk scene I think DoSan shines more, credit to Nam Joo Hyuk. Honestly I can feel more emotion from young jp. Grown jp consist of smiling, smirking, sullen, angry.
List of scenes when JP aggressively manhandled DS:
Ep2 – baseball exchange when JP grabbed DS while he was walking to meet DM in person
Ep5 – while getting snacks, JP grabbed DS to ask him about his revelation of not being a hotshot CEO. This is also when JP said hurtful words that DS should compensate Yeongsan and Chulsan for wasting 2 years of their lives.
Ep6 – After Dalmi chose JP as mentor, JP pinching Dosanβs cheek and hitting his hand hard while pretending to be a Sherpa
Ep9 – JP punched and kicked Dosanβs thigh when drunk Dosan was in Halmeoniβs house
Ep12 – acqihing; JP did 2 shoves before fist fight started
*Ep 12 – JP swatted grandmaβs hand when she tried to console him after the fistfight with Dosan
Ep13 – JP did a chest shove to Dosan in the elevator. And then gaslighting Dosan on JPβs relationship to DM. Canβt he just explain that Dalmi wanted to be alone and not be disturbed? Geez.
Except for the fist fight, Dosan had been very respectful of JP even with his harsh words and did not retaliate.
Let me know if I missed anything!
@Janey I def agree with all of JPs actions but I guess other fan girls found a way to make it look like Dosan had anger management issues because of that fist fight. Classic example of how people could quickly judge one mistake and define Dosan and forget about the 9/10 Dosan did great throughout the whole drama versus every little thing JP does is correct and good in the eyes of others.
I’m really sad I missed the rewatch! But this is one of my favorite episodes for many reasons, so please allow me to join the fun albeit late!
1. I love the elevator scene, and it perfectly showed the stark contrast between Dosan and JP in love and life. Dosan is a risk-taker, a trailblazer, who’s no longer afraid of losing, while JP plays too much on the safe side and would rather not try at all unless he’s sure of winning. Let’s be honest, he didn’t try at all with Dalmi.
At this point we can already see that Dosan is stronger from 3 years ago (something JP stans refused to acknowledge nor recognize sigh). I think it is safe to say that he has overcome his impostor syndrome. π
2. The drinking scene between Dosan and JP! Our boy is really a romantic, and I don’t think he’s even aware of it. Swoon.
p.s. Dosan asking his mother if they have JP’s fave banchan I am fuming and this is the boy they hate???
3. That kiss scene!!!!!!!!
4. Dosan in black turtleneck. Very hot :(((
I remember the end of episode 15 where they showed JP running after learning about the journalist. A lot of stans were mad because they thought JP would “save” them again and be ungrateful for it.
I am pleased that our Samsan Tech proved that they are capable of standing on their own now. *very pleased*
Anyway, I hope I remember the scenes correctly haha.
I am really sad I missed most of the rewatch lol. I’m not sure if there’ll be more SU posts here, but thank you, @pm3, @Ella our president, and everyone who showered love for SU. Your analyses and commentaries made me love the drama and our boy Dosan even more. π
Happy New Year everyone!!!
One of the best gift of 2020 was finding this blog through StartUp and connecting with everyone here. Dissecting and discussing kdrama has never been so exhilarating. I’m grateful for you all and wish you all abundant blessings and the best year in 2021. Much love.
Happy new year president Ella, and everyone here!! ππ
Grateful for all of you..
@Janey and Gen yes to all that youβve written.. The thing about fangirls: they are blinded by their own feelings. They couldnβt think clearly.
PS: @Ella I think that Suzy and Nam Joo Hyuk acting in Start Up was marvelous too. Before the drama aired I know that most people belittled them. But I am so proud of them now. I usually stopped my admiration towards an actor to his acting and character only. But when I saw the bts clips or interviews of NJH, i could see that he is polite and considerate too. Maybe because heβs been through a lot. Ahh well, anyway I wish that the production team, Suzy and NJH too get awards in the future. They deserve more appreciations..