Thank you @Packmule3 for the thread! I really enjoyed Episode 5.
It made me sad in the end. Yes, the tears were cathartic.
I am glad someone was sad for our Chef! All the others grown ups- had excuses.
nrllee
@Cleo I agree about the last 5minutes of Ep5. YJG was brilliant in his portrayal of denial and then surrender to all the tears that he should’ve cried all those years. It was a nice touch. Full circle on the link.
Lots of funny moments that had me in stitches 😂. When DH shoved him into the boxes of chips. And then pushed him down again after he took her hand. The forced smiles of DH’s mother and grandma to keep on his good side because they found out he knew about the “murder”.
What are your thoughts about stalker’s Insta (?) message to DH? I am wondering if it’s his sister luring her out. Pretending to be the dead brother to get her to confess?
Cleopatra
Hey @nrllee,
Regarding the stalker’s sister. If you saw she was talking on the phone with somebody else. Also, she is loaded. Did you see her apartment?
We don’t really know if the stalker is actually dead or he is alive with some health problems after he was hit by the taxi driver.
Let’s say he is alive for now. To confess what exactly? That her brother assaulted her and she had to escape? She has proof that she was attached. Let’s say bravo to Gye-Hoon for taking her to the hospital.
The sister is twisted as well. I am glad that Da-Hyun΄s mother and halmeoni know that she is the stalker’s sister but DH doesn’t. If she finds out she will be in anxiety.
True, that scene was so funny, even YJG posted it on his IG with another caption of course. 😂
Yes, the crying scene was brilliant. I think GH was suffering so much inside that he couldn’t even access the feelings he had himself, DH’s tears made him cry as well.
Fern
Thank you, @packmule3.
So the chef actually had to introduce himself to the town although some people knew already – the piano teacher certainly. Now I’m wondering how Da Hyun and her family are involved because I feel there is some connection with her injury and perhaps her father going missing as well.
The ‘shaman’ is back. Selling wigs for a living, Lol. She mentioned more bodies.
@Cleopatra, wasn’t their tteokbokki meal scene good? I never thought tteokbokki sounded so healthy before. Good recipe improv on DH’s part! She is a kind person. It’s good to see them relax around each other, at least for a while.
Some things I took away from this episode:
I missed out on how Da Hyun heard that GY is GH’s sister, so I assume that she overheard the gossip. It seems that it wasn’t from her own mother and grandmother who have seemed careful to never bring it up in front of DH.
The look on the mother and grandmother’s faces when DH’s work supervisor made it clear that she was helping DH out of charity so DH wouldn’t have to live in that environment. Pfffft.
The reason for GH being able to read DH’s emotions is still unclear.
Gosh, the amount of victim shaming was dreadful and still ongoing. The mother clearly hasn’t forgiven GH for his ‘neglect’.
I don’t feel that the piano teacher is the murderer, but may be trying to protect someone. I think that the lady officer is perhaps the only one who can unravel it, but then she could be involved in a sense since she is protecting the rookie by not revealing his past history of OTT violence.
Fern
@Cleo and @nrllee, I understand the sister’s grief, but she is unstable and going about getting justice the wrong way. I shall have to rewatch to look at her apartment again. I wonder – she keeps talking to her brother mentally – sort of like GH must have done with GY. Could they be twins with a link, too?
Cleopatra
@Fern,
My understanding of GH’s disappearance, having watched the first 5 episodes is the following:
The piano teacher lured the little girl to get into his car. He didn’t do anything to her, but some other people certainly did. He is protecting someone for all those years. It could also be his biological son.
I feel that the whole neighbourhood knows what happened in some sense. They all look suspicious and the only one who is certain about the culprit is the Police Station’s Captain.
Yes, most likely DH was with her at one point. She has either suppressed her memories or she was hit on the head as she was being told!
Yes, their tteokbokki scene was pretty awesome. I like that they can relax and be emotionally fragile and honest with each other.
She heard it from GH’s sous chef, that GY is missing for 18 years.
GH’s mother is unstable. She definitely has some mental issues from grief and regrets.
Yes, let’s say it was GH’s fault. The adult aka the parent is blaming a 10 year old who wanted to play with his friends. This is going on for 18 years, since our Chef is now a 28 year old grown up man. The truth is GH’s mother is blaming herself as the adult, but she is taking out to her son, because it is the easiest thing to do.
Cleopatra
@Fern,
I think they have the same tendecies. They are unstable and maybe they are stalking people. I don’t think they have a link, but certainly they share a connection in the mental condition.
Fern
Efcharistó, @Cleopatra! I shall have to rewatch some of this before tonight’s episode.
nrllee
@Fern I was thinking the same. That the stalker and his sister are both cut from the same cloth…maybe twins too. Her behaviour is NOT normal by a long shot. She seems so very “attached” to her brother? She was sobbing when she looked at the picture (which we didn’t get a look at by the way) in her apartment.
@Cleo I meant stalker sis wants DH to confess to having something to do with her brother’s disappearance. It’s certainly a very odd way to deal with his disappearance. By stalking his “gf”. Her apartment did look very plush. So maybe she is loaded.
YJG has been brilliant in portraying GH. It’s really hard to tear up with a straight face? I am always amazed when that happens to GH. The tears just roll down his cheeks and his face doesn’t contort nor his eyes show any emotion. A part of me wonders if they put onions somewhere to get the effect 😂.
So we know that piano teacher was asked by GY to take her on a car trip?
2:30pm she was missing (GH couldn’t find her in her spot).
3:00pm some witness reports seeing her get into piano teacher’s car? Who is this witness? Why does piano teacher have fragmented memories of what happened? Is he covering it up for someone? His young son (police officer with anger issues) maybe? Who also “confessed” via letter to GH?
nrllee
^Also, why would she have moved from her spot where GH left her to be where the piano teacher found her? How did she get there in the first place? 🤔
Cleopatra
@nrllee,
Your question is spot on. Something happened. If my brother was somewhere, I wouldn’t go to another part of the town with no reason. GY must have encountered someone, that made her run away for some reason.
As for the stalker and his sister, the more I am thinking about it, maybe they are not related biologically. If that is the case when and where did they meet each other? Are exploiting other people for money? Something is fishy over here as well…
nrllee
@Cleo that is a distinct possibility. That stalker sister is not actually biologically related to the stalker. Her obsession with him goes beyond the usual sibling bond. It’s very rare for adult siblings to be that bonded? Most move on with their individual lives? And I find it odd that the camera doesn’t show us the photo she was looking at in her apartment as she was crying as well. Most PDs would just pan in to show a happy pic of the pair but PD deliberately only showed us the back of the photo frame. No photo. Which I thought was odd.
Cleopatra
@nrllee,
You expressed it beautifully. She is obsessed with him. Adult siblings can be bonded, but not with such an unhealthy way.
Exactly my point. I think something was fishy for the reason you are thinking it was odd. Especially, when she was talking on the phone with someone else, before she was going towards that photograph. With whom she was talking to about it?
grace
Joining all of you in this drama because I’m enjoying the mystery that is hooking me in with all the questions in my head that they are revealing bit by bit. And the comedy that totally describes what Da-hyun quoted (was it her?)
“Life is a tragedy when seen in close-up, but a comedy in long-shot.”
When I feel like some scenes are quite anxious-ridden for the characters, it becomes really funny to us as audiences who are watching it in long-shot.
Life has been busy and I haven’t been catching up over here. Time to catch up with what was going on in the comments in the few posts before
Fern
Wow, episode 6. Why is Da Hyun still walking in alleys at night? Why doesn’t she tell Eun Jung that her brother Jin Geun has been messaging her instead of just hinting that he is alive? But another great episode with ever more suspects.
The man with the green cross badge on his sleeve had the same drink (yogurt?) as the ex-piano teacher. It had so be shown intentionally? …
nrllee
@Fern I know 🙄😑. Why would she keep walking in dark alleys? I didn’t get why DH didn’t just show EJ the texts to prove that her brother was still alive and stalking her. At least it would get EJ off her back? 😂
I was wondering about the banana milk (I think?) offered as well. It seemed rather coincidental that another 10yo girl was lured away once word went around of GH’s return. Was the man with the green cross badge trying to set the cops back on towards Piano Teacher? Was he the witness from long ago that pinned the blame on Piano teacher in the first place? What if he wasn’t a reliable witness and just had a personal vendetta against Piano teacher? But if that was the case, why was Piano teacher sorry? He could’ve just denied everything? Did he, like the taxi driver, inadvertently run over GY? And hid the secret all these years?
Also in the opening credits, these 2 frames intrigued me. Seemingly from fairy tales? This one which looked like Red Riding Hood with the Wolf (Stalker)
Although if you look closely, the figures look to be both girls? Both in pink. And it looks like the girl in the top of the tower is lowering the other girl down? Could this be inferring to the past where both DH and GY were taken and one escaped whilst the other didn’t?
grace
@Fern,
Same big questions as you. I was like “Tell the sister now what that guy has been doing to you!!”
A possibility is that the alleys are a short cut? But still from young the warning is never go into any dark alleys at night, don’t they teach it in Korea?
The other big question that begs to be solved is how did DaHyun get linked to Gyehoon? And what has happened then for him to experience her emotions?
@nrlee,
great observations!! Maybe GY saved DH again like at the alley with the boys just that GH didn’t come in time this round. I’m sure DH’s loss of memory may when she was young has got to do with that kidnapping case, just not sure what exactly could have happened.
I feel like there is a layer of misunderstanding and secrets within the characters in the show. Amongst them, is something all of them know, yet they are each hiding something from each other. All in all they have created a really intriguing story that I can’t help but ask thousand questions, laugh at the silliness and want to watch more.
Cleopatra
Kalimera Ladies,
I have also watched Episode 6. Later on, I will post my thoughts about it.
For now, this is Ella’s brand new edit. Enjoy!
@grace you summed it up well in your last paragraph 😂. Dark humour done well is a great watch and so far this has been good. I am finding it intriguing that with the link between our 2 leads, it’s getting hard to tell if GH is feeling the same way towards DH or if he’s just mirroring her “flutters” 😂. I am also wondering how GH’s fancy restaurant will survive in this part of town? He’s taking a lot of time and putting in a lot of effort into the preparations. And wanting to do a “soft launch”. Loved how he was hiding his jealousy of Police guy teaching DH defence moves by giving her an overload of work so she won’t have any time to spend with police guy 😂
Cleopatra
Anneyong again!
Regarding Episode 6:As I have written before, the narrator is unreliable. We get to see fragments of truth.
The BIG question is : Why the stalker or anyone from the Hospital didn’t try to find his family? He had an incident and noone was around. Does he really have any family?
As it seems more players regarding Gye-Young’s missing case are coming around. I have told you, haven’t I, the piano teacher is not the culprit!
@nrllee, great catch from the opening scenes. We have discussed before the possibility that both Gye-Young and Da-Hyun were caught that day, but DH made it back but with a head injury – or so they have told us.
I am really curious, to see if they will catch the stalker. In Episode 7’s preview, he will destroy the CCTV and then he will try to hurt our Chef.
As for the alleys, the other message is that it is also represents the subconscious. Specifically, Da Hyun’s subconscious that it will stir memories for her at some point.
Fern
@nrllee and @Cleopatra, I wondered about those drawings in the opening credits as well. It looks to me like an older girl or woman is lowering the girl child to safety. I wonder – another possibility based on that is Gye Young is alive and later in the drama helps another child?
Or Gye Young saved Da Hyun at her own expense – helped her out of a moving vehicle or a locked room for example in the hopes of DH sending help, but couldn’t save herself? But the attempt injures DH who forgets what happened? Just theories. We’ll see.
Poor GH feeling every flutter of DH’s heart when they are sitting opposite. He gets flustered himself and tries to distance each other. Then DH tries to protect him from Jin Geun who threatens everyone around her.
I like that this show makes me curious about every person, even those out of the frame like the missing fathers of both DH and GH. I hope it doesn’t go the way of Stalker and have DH’s father be a major suspect.
@Cleopatra, yes, why didn’t someone try to contact Jin Geun’s family? What was that all about? Did taxi driver bring him to the hospital and pay for his treatment to keep him quiet?
I think that the Music teacher is not the kidnapper, but he feels guilty anyway so he is involved somehow, either protecting someone else or thinks that he contributed to her death. Perhaps in a parallel to DH thinking that she had murdered Jin Geun but she couldn’t remember. I was just thinking how strange it would be if the person who knocked Jin Geun out was not DH or her family, but someone who saw him and DH’s struggle to keep him out of the restaurant?
Fern
🤦♀️ Not Stalker but Healer. I have a one-track mind…
@nrllee, thank you for calling attention to the images.
Fern
@Cleopatra, one last thing – someone knew JG was in the hospital because he had a laptop to use, presumably his own. Hospitals don’t just hand laptops out to keep patients amused, right?
Cleopatra
My dear @Fern,
That is the point exactly! WHO brought the laptop at the hospital for the stalker to use? His own sister seems to not know his whereabouts, but someone else does?!
Either is a plot hole, or the sister is not his sister! LOL
My next question is: why the taxi driver’s wife is keeping Chef’s santoku knife?
If we take for granted, they took him to the hospital, they could have left the knife outside the restaurant or even inside the restaurant, since the door was unlocked at the time.
No, the music teacher is not the culprit. He has indeed lots of regrets for what happened that day.
I also believe that someone else hit the stalker on the head, that day, after watching DH’s struggle…
nrllee
@Fern @Cleo yes the facts don’t match up between stalker and his sister. Surely he would know his sister is worried – she claims they talk often? Which is why she was suspicious when he stopped all contact? Wouldn’t he at least tell her that he was okay? He spent a lot of time in hospital. It wasn’t like he had amnesia. He sent all those messages to DH whilst recovering in hospital? Sure he could’ve sent one message to his beloved sister? If they were as close as she claimed they were?
Cleopatra
@nrllee & @Fern,
Look again the flashback, when the stalker’s “sister” was calling him on the night of the assault, only her number was showed up on the cellphone’s screen.
No, “noona” or “sis”. He hasn’t got her numbered saved on his phone list!
Cleopatra
Correction: Her phone number saved*
nrllee
@Cleo good catch. So potentially the stalker was being stalked? 😂. By a fake sister?
Cleopatra
@nrllee,
Dunno why we were showed this scene and the caller number at least thrice.
The actual scene and in flashbacks! Most likely is something there! 😂😂😂
I waiting for more revelations regarding the stalker siblings.
Fern
Yes, @Cleopatra, good catch about the stalker’s sister’s phone number.
The person who brought the laptop to the stalker in the hospital may have been someone else – a house mate or another relative who is estranged from the sister. It doesn’t necessarily mean that she isn’t his sister if he hasn’t named her contact or if he didn’t contact her while in hospital; there could be another reason. I believe the sister’s distress. It’s not matched by her brother, if that’s what he is. OR, she knows about his psycho tendency and is trying to protect him in a way, whilst he finds her concern annoying and tries to keep her at arms length.
Cleopatra
@Fern,
Thank you. I am trying to understand what is happening exactly between those two.
If you have time for your “girlfriend” you would find time, for your relatives as well. That is the only thing that rings a bell to me.
Her distress might be real, but I am curious why she didn’t go to the cops.
We do know for sure that she knows how to use the knife. So, she is trained to work as a knife in a restaurant. (I am glad I watched Wok of Love 😋 )
Fern
@Cleopatra, Kalispera. My imagination is running wild. At the moment, Jin Eun is having a psychotic episode and DH is his victim. EJ may be his sister and the only one who makes him take his Psych meds, but he prefers how he feels without the meds so has been ignoring her. He’s crazy, remember, so we can’t expect him to act logically.
But certainly, why doesn’t she go to the police? Has he been guilty of this sort of thing before and she can’t go because it would draw attention to him?
nrllee
@Fern @Cleo one other possibility is that stalker’s sister is one of those who micromanages him and smothers him with her “love”, so he is choosing to distance himself from her because he doesn’t want her to be involved in his life anymore. And that’s why he didn’t contact her after his “accident”. He didn’t want her to “smother” him even more so.
Are we sure that stalker was the one who murdered the lady found in the apartment? I find it surprising that the police hasn’t followed up on that more. Although we only presume that stalker “lived” there because he told DH that he lived there? So maybe it’s NOT true? And that’s why police haven’t traced the lead back to him? My facts are getting hazy 😂. I haven’t rewatched.
Cleopatra
Kalimera Ladies!
You have valid points @Fern and @nrllee, but from the dramaverse that is built so far, the older sister is not that “normal” herself. She is unstable.
It would make sense if she is / was okay, but she isn’t. They way she interacts with DH and her mother and Halmeoni shows that she is not taking any meds herself, not only her stalker brother.
She also believes that DH is her little brother’s girlfriend and she wants to harm the Chef, if they were actually together. So, I don’t think that she is giving him any Psych Meds. She suspects that DH did something to her brother, but she is not referring to any bad thing her brother would do to DH.
I think both of them are in police’s data for an incident. That’s why she is not going to them. Also, she was looking to that skeleton in the news…
Are they both killers?
@nrllee, we believe that he told her, that he stayed near to her. He could have killed that lady or not.
The thing is that the lady had a stalker and he was the culprit. Deliberately in the news, they didn’t say his name making us believe that he was the killer…
Fern
@Cleopatra, I know, as I said my imagination is running wild. Most of what I said won’t happen, but it’s what my brain creatively says could happen with some of what we know so far. I thought of medicine in that sense.
@nrllee, yes, the sister could also be smothering him with her care, whatever form that may take, so he is avoiding her. I do agree with @Cleo that one or both could be known to the police.
Cleopatra
Kalimera my dear @Fern,
Imagination running wild is great,so stretch it as much as you like!
We are here to discuss our theories and hypotheses and in the meantime have fun as well! *grins*
Fern
Kalimera, @Cleopatra. This is one drama where I can’t wait for the next episodes and not only for potential romance. The premise is so interesting, with everyone involved. The only people so far who seem uninvolved are the junior chef Cha Jin-ho and the school and workmate whose name I can’t recall right now.
I hope that you have a fine weekend.
Cleopatra
Hey @Fern,
I agree, the plotline is interesting. The junior chef is a rather interesting character!
We had a mini heat, with yesterday being the worst day so far, I do hope it won’t be that hot. I hope that you will have a fine weekend yourself!
Kalimera !
Thank you @Packmule3 for the thread! I really enjoyed Episode 5.
It made me sad in the end. Yes, the tears were cathartic.
I am glad someone was sad for our Chef! All the others grown ups- had excuses.
@Cleo I agree about the last 5minutes of Ep5. YJG was brilliant in his portrayal of denial and then surrender to all the tears that he should’ve cried all those years. It was a nice touch. Full circle on the link.
Lots of funny moments that had me in stitches 😂. When DH shoved him into the boxes of chips. And then pushed him down again after he took her hand. The forced smiles of DH’s mother and grandma to keep on his good side because they found out he knew about the “murder”.
What are your thoughts about stalker’s Insta (?) message to DH? I am wondering if it’s his sister luring her out. Pretending to be the dead brother to get her to confess?
Hey @nrllee,
Regarding the stalker’s sister. If you saw she was talking on the phone with somebody else. Also, she is loaded. Did you see her apartment?
We don’t really know if the stalker is actually dead or he is alive with some health problems after he was hit by the taxi driver.
Let’s say he is alive for now. To confess what exactly? That her brother assaulted her and she had to escape? She has proof that she was attached. Let’s say bravo to Gye-Hoon for taking her to the hospital.
The sister is twisted as well. I am glad that Da-Hyun΄s mother and halmeoni know that she is the stalker’s sister but DH doesn’t. If she finds out she will be in anxiety.
True, that scene was so funny, even YJG posted it on his IG with another caption of course. 😂
Yes, the crying scene was brilliant. I think GH was suffering so much inside that he couldn’t even access the feelings he had himself, DH’s tears made him cry as well.
Thank you, @packmule3.
So the chef actually had to introduce himself to the town although some people knew already – the piano teacher certainly. Now I’m wondering how Da Hyun and her family are involved because I feel there is some connection with her injury and perhaps her father going missing as well.
The ‘shaman’ is back. Selling wigs for a living, Lol. She mentioned more bodies.
@Cleopatra, wasn’t their tteokbokki meal scene good? I never thought tteokbokki sounded so healthy before. Good recipe improv on DH’s part! She is a kind person. It’s good to see them relax around each other, at least for a while.
Some things I took away from this episode:
I missed out on how Da Hyun heard that GY is GH’s sister, so I assume that she overheard the gossip. It seems that it wasn’t from her own mother and grandmother who have seemed careful to never bring it up in front of DH.
The look on the mother and grandmother’s faces when DH’s work supervisor made it clear that she was helping DH out of charity so DH wouldn’t have to live in that environment. Pfffft.
The reason for GH being able to read DH’s emotions is still unclear.
Gosh, the amount of victim shaming was dreadful and still ongoing. The mother clearly hasn’t forgiven GH for his ‘neglect’.
I don’t feel that the piano teacher is the murderer, but may be trying to protect someone. I think that the lady officer is perhaps the only one who can unravel it, but then she could be involved in a sense since she is protecting the rookie by not revealing his past history of OTT violence.
@Cleo and @nrllee, I understand the sister’s grief, but she is unstable and going about getting justice the wrong way. I shall have to rewatch to look at her apartment again. I wonder – she keeps talking to her brother mentally – sort of like GH must have done with GY. Could they be twins with a link, too?
@Fern,
My understanding of GH’s disappearance, having watched the first 5 episodes is the following:
The piano teacher lured the little girl to get into his car. He didn’t do anything to her, but some other people certainly did. He is protecting someone for all those years. It could also be his biological son.
I feel that the whole neighbourhood knows what happened in some sense. They all look suspicious and the only one who is certain about the culprit is the Police Station’s Captain.
Yes, most likely DH was with her at one point. She has either suppressed her memories or she was hit on the head as she was being told!
Yes, their tteokbokki scene was pretty awesome. I like that they can relax and be emotionally fragile and honest with each other.
She heard it from GH’s sous chef, that GY is missing for 18 years.
GH’s mother is unstable. She definitely has some mental issues from grief and regrets.
Yes, let’s say it was GH’s fault. The adult aka the parent is blaming a 10 year old who wanted to play with his friends. This is going on for 18 years, since our Chef is now a 28 year old grown up man. The truth is GH’s mother is blaming herself as the adult, but she is taking out to her son, because it is the easiest thing to do.
@Fern,
I think they have the same tendecies. They are unstable and maybe they are stalking people. I don’t think they have a link, but certainly they share a connection in the mental condition.
Efcharistó, @Cleopatra! I shall have to rewatch some of this before tonight’s episode.
@Fern I was thinking the same. That the stalker and his sister are both cut from the same cloth…maybe twins too. Her behaviour is NOT normal by a long shot. She seems so very “attached” to her brother? She was sobbing when she looked at the picture (which we didn’t get a look at by the way) in her apartment.
@Cleo I meant stalker sis wants DH to confess to having something to do with her brother’s disappearance. It’s certainly a very odd way to deal with his disappearance. By stalking his “gf”. Her apartment did look very plush. So maybe she is loaded.
YJG has been brilliant in portraying GH. It’s really hard to tear up with a straight face? I am always amazed when that happens to GH. The tears just roll down his cheeks and his face doesn’t contort nor his eyes show any emotion. A part of me wonders if they put onions somewhere to get the effect 😂.
So we know that piano teacher was asked by GY to take her on a car trip?
2:30pm she was missing (GH couldn’t find her in her spot).
3:00pm some witness reports seeing her get into piano teacher’s car? Who is this witness? Why does piano teacher have fragmented memories of what happened? Is he covering it up for someone? His young son (police officer with anger issues) maybe? Who also “confessed” via letter to GH?
^Also, why would she have moved from her spot where GH left her to be where the piano teacher found her? How did she get there in the first place? 🤔
@nrllee,
Your question is spot on. Something happened. If my brother was somewhere, I wouldn’t go to another part of the town with no reason. GY must have encountered someone, that made her run away for some reason.
As for the stalker and his sister, the more I am thinking about it, maybe they are not related biologically. If that is the case when and where did they meet each other? Are exploiting other people for money? Something is fishy over here as well…
@Cleo that is a distinct possibility. That stalker sister is not actually biologically related to the stalker. Her obsession with him goes beyond the usual sibling bond. It’s very rare for adult siblings to be that bonded? Most move on with their individual lives? And I find it odd that the camera doesn’t show us the photo she was looking at in her apartment as she was crying as well. Most PDs would just pan in to show a happy pic of the pair but PD deliberately only showed us the back of the photo frame. No photo. Which I thought was odd.
@nrllee,
You expressed it beautifully. She is obsessed with him. Adult siblings can be bonded, but not with such an unhealthy way.
Exactly my point. I think something was fishy for the reason you are thinking it was odd. Especially, when she was talking on the phone with someone else, before she was going towards that photograph. With whom she was talking to about it?
Joining all of you in this drama because I’m enjoying the mystery that is hooking me in with all the questions in my head that they are revealing bit by bit. And the comedy that totally describes what Da-hyun quoted (was it her?)
“Life is a tragedy when seen in close-up, but a comedy in long-shot.”
When I feel like some scenes are quite anxious-ridden for the characters, it becomes really funny to us as audiences who are watching it in long-shot.
Life has been busy and I haven’t been catching up over here. Time to catch up with what was going on in the comments in the few posts before
Wow, episode 6. Why is Da Hyun still walking in alleys at night? Why doesn’t she tell Eun Jung that her brother Jin Geun has been messaging her instead of just hinting that he is alive? But another great episode with ever more suspects.
The man with the green cross badge on his sleeve had the same drink (yogurt?) as the ex-piano teacher. It had so be shown intentionally? …
@Fern I know 🙄😑. Why would she keep walking in dark alleys? I didn’t get why DH didn’t just show EJ the texts to prove that her brother was still alive and stalking her. At least it would get EJ off her back? 😂
I was wondering about the banana milk (I think?) offered as well. It seemed rather coincidental that another 10yo girl was lured away once word went around of GH’s return. Was the man with the green cross badge trying to set the cops back on towards Piano Teacher? Was he the witness from long ago that pinned the blame on Piano teacher in the first place? What if he wasn’t a reliable witness and just had a personal vendetta against Piano teacher? But if that was the case, why was Piano teacher sorry? He could’ve just denied everything? Did he, like the taxi driver, inadvertently run over GY? And hid the secret all these years?
Also in the opening credits, these 2 frames intrigued me. Seemingly from fairy tales? This one which looked like Red Riding Hood with the Wolf (Stalker)
https://i.ibb.co/zJStnc9/5871223-B-1726-401-C-8028-B7827-FA13112.jpg
And then this one…which looked like Rapunzel. Or a princess in a tower.
https://i.ibb.co/2hhHSh3/DA7012-DB-6-BF7-4-E86-8-D0-F-53779444-C37-F.jpg
Although if you look closely, the figures look to be both girls? Both in pink. And it looks like the girl in the top of the tower is lowering the other girl down? Could this be inferring to the past where both DH and GY were taken and one escaped whilst the other didn’t?
@Fern,
Same big questions as you. I was like “Tell the sister now what that guy has been doing to you!!”
A possibility is that the alleys are a short cut? But still from young the warning is never go into any dark alleys at night, don’t they teach it in Korea?
The other big question that begs to be solved is how did DaHyun get linked to Gyehoon? And what has happened then for him to experience her emotions?
@nrlee,
great observations!! Maybe GY saved DH again like at the alley with the boys just that GH didn’t come in time this round. I’m sure DH’s loss of memory may when she was young has got to do with that kidnapping case, just not sure what exactly could have happened.
I feel like there is a layer of misunderstanding and secrets within the characters in the show. Amongst them, is something all of them know, yet they are each hiding something from each other. All in all they have created a really intriguing story that I can’t help but ask thousand questions, laugh at the silliness and want to watch more.
Kalimera Ladies,
I have also watched Episode 6. Later on, I will post my thoughts about it.
For now, this is Ella’s brand new edit. Enjoy!
https://youtu.be/Vl2p_VU9OHg
@grace you summed it up well in your last paragraph 😂. Dark humour done well is a great watch and so far this has been good. I am finding it intriguing that with the link between our 2 leads, it’s getting hard to tell if GH is feeling the same way towards DH or if he’s just mirroring her “flutters” 😂. I am also wondering how GH’s fancy restaurant will survive in this part of town? He’s taking a lot of time and putting in a lot of effort into the preparations. And wanting to do a “soft launch”. Loved how he was hiding his jealousy of Police guy teaching DH defence moves by giving her an overload of work so she won’t have any time to spend with police guy 😂
Anneyong again!
Regarding Episode 6:As I have written before, the narrator is unreliable. We get to see fragments of truth.
The BIG question is : Why the stalker or anyone from the Hospital didn’t try to find his family? He had an incident and noone was around. Does he really have any family?
As it seems more players regarding Gye-Young’s missing case are coming around. I have told you, haven’t I, the piano teacher is not the culprit!
@nrllee, great catch from the opening scenes. We have discussed before the possibility that both Gye-Young and Da-Hyun were caught that day, but DH made it back but with a head injury – or so they have told us.
I am really curious, to see if they will catch the stalker. In Episode 7’s preview, he will destroy the CCTV and then he will try to hurt our Chef.
As for the alleys, the other message is that it is also represents the subconscious. Specifically, Da Hyun’s subconscious that it will stir memories for her at some point.
@nrllee and @Cleopatra, I wondered about those drawings in the opening credits as well. It looks to me like an older girl or woman is lowering the girl child to safety. I wonder – another possibility based on that is Gye Young is alive and later in the drama helps another child?
Or Gye Young saved Da Hyun at her own expense – helped her out of a moving vehicle or a locked room for example in the hopes of DH sending help, but couldn’t save herself? But the attempt injures DH who forgets what happened? Just theories. We’ll see.
Poor GH feeling every flutter of DH’s heart when they are sitting opposite. He gets flustered himself and tries to distance each other. Then DH tries to protect him from Jin Geun who threatens everyone around her.
I like that this show makes me curious about every person, even those out of the frame like the missing fathers of both DH and GH. I hope it doesn’t go the way of Stalker and have DH’s father be a major suspect.
@Cleopatra, yes, why didn’t someone try to contact Jin Geun’s family? What was that all about? Did taxi driver bring him to the hospital and pay for his treatment to keep him quiet?
I think that the Music teacher is not the kidnapper, but he feels guilty anyway so he is involved somehow, either protecting someone else or thinks that he contributed to her death. Perhaps in a parallel to DH thinking that she had murdered Jin Geun but she couldn’t remember. I was just thinking how strange it would be if the person who knocked Jin Geun out was not DH or her family, but someone who saw him and DH’s struggle to keep him out of the restaurant?
🤦♀️ Not Stalker but Healer. I have a one-track mind…
@nrllee, thank you for calling attention to the images.
@Cleopatra, one last thing – someone knew JG was in the hospital because he had a laptop to use, presumably his own. Hospitals don’t just hand laptops out to keep patients amused, right?
My dear @Fern,
That is the point exactly! WHO brought the laptop at the hospital for the stalker to use? His own sister seems to not know his whereabouts, but someone else does?!
Either is a plot hole, or the sister is not his sister! LOL
My next question is: why the taxi driver’s wife is keeping Chef’s santoku knife?
If we take for granted, they took him to the hospital, they could have left the knife outside the restaurant or even inside the restaurant, since the door was unlocked at the time.
No, the music teacher is not the culprit. He has indeed lots of regrets for what happened that day.
I also believe that someone else hit the stalker on the head, that day, after watching DH’s struggle…
@Fern @Cleo yes the facts don’t match up between stalker and his sister. Surely he would know his sister is worried – she claims they talk often? Which is why she was suspicious when he stopped all contact? Wouldn’t he at least tell her that he was okay? He spent a lot of time in hospital. It wasn’t like he had amnesia. He sent all those messages to DH whilst recovering in hospital? Sure he could’ve sent one message to his beloved sister? If they were as close as she claimed they were?
@nrllee & @Fern,
Look again the flashback, when the stalker’s “sister” was calling him on the night of the assault, only her number was showed up on the cellphone’s screen.
No, “noona” or “sis”. He hasn’t got her numbered saved on his phone list!
Correction: Her phone number saved*
@Cleo good catch. So potentially the stalker was being stalked? 😂. By a fake sister?
@nrllee,
Dunno why we were showed this scene and the caller number at least thrice.
The actual scene and in flashbacks! Most likely is something there! 😂😂😂
I waiting for more revelations regarding the stalker siblings.
Yes, @Cleopatra, good catch about the stalker’s sister’s phone number.
The person who brought the laptop to the stalker in the hospital may have been someone else – a house mate or another relative who is estranged from the sister. It doesn’t necessarily mean that she isn’t his sister if he hasn’t named her contact or if he didn’t contact her while in hospital; there could be another reason. I believe the sister’s distress. It’s not matched by her brother, if that’s what he is. OR, she knows about his psycho tendency and is trying to protect him in a way, whilst he finds her concern annoying and tries to keep her at arms length.
@Fern,
Thank you. I am trying to understand what is happening exactly between those two.
If you have time for your “girlfriend” you would find time, for your relatives as well. That is the only thing that rings a bell to me.
Her distress might be real, but I am curious why she didn’t go to the cops.
We do know for sure that she knows how to use the knife. So, she is trained to work as a knife in a restaurant. (I am glad I watched Wok of Love 😋 )
@Cleopatra, Kalispera. My imagination is running wild. At the moment, Jin Eun is having a psychotic episode and DH is his victim. EJ may be his sister and the only one who makes him take his Psych meds, but he prefers how he feels without the meds so has been ignoring her. He’s crazy, remember, so we can’t expect him to act logically.
But certainly, why doesn’t she go to the police? Has he been guilty of this sort of thing before and she can’t go because it would draw attention to him?
@Fern @Cleo one other possibility is that stalker’s sister is one of those who micromanages him and smothers him with her “love”, so he is choosing to distance himself from her because he doesn’t want her to be involved in his life anymore. And that’s why he didn’t contact her after his “accident”. He didn’t want her to “smother” him even more so.
Are we sure that stalker was the one who murdered the lady found in the apartment? I find it surprising that the police hasn’t followed up on that more. Although we only presume that stalker “lived” there because he told DH that he lived there? So maybe it’s NOT true? And that’s why police haven’t traced the lead back to him? My facts are getting hazy 😂. I haven’t rewatched.
Kalimera Ladies!
You have valid points @Fern and @nrllee, but from the dramaverse that is built so far, the older sister is not that “normal” herself. She is unstable.
It would make sense if she is / was okay, but she isn’t. They way she interacts with DH and her mother and Halmeoni shows that she is not taking any meds herself, not only her stalker brother.
She also believes that DH is her little brother’s girlfriend and she wants to harm the Chef, if they were actually together. So, I don’t think that she is giving him any Psych Meds. She suspects that DH did something to her brother, but she is not referring to any bad thing her brother would do to DH.
I think both of them are in police’s data for an incident. That’s why she is not going to them. Also, she was looking to that skeleton in the news…
Are they both killers?
@nrllee, we believe that he told her, that he stayed near to her. He could have killed that lady or not.
The thing is that the lady had a stalker and he was the culprit. Deliberately in the news, they didn’t say his name making us believe that he was the killer…
@Cleopatra, I know, as I said my imagination is running wild. Most of what I said won’t happen, but it’s what my brain creatively says could happen with some of what we know so far. I thought of medicine in that sense.
@nrllee, yes, the sister could also be smothering him with her care, whatever form that may take, so he is avoiding her. I do agree with @Cleo that one or both could be known to the police.
Kalimera my dear @Fern,
Imagination running wild is great,so stretch it as much as you like!
We are here to discuss our theories and hypotheses and in the meantime have fun as well! *grins*
Kalimera, @Cleopatra. This is one drama where I can’t wait for the next episodes and not only for potential romance. The premise is so interesting, with everyone involved. The only people so far who seem uninvolved are the junior chef Cha Jin-ho and the school and workmate whose name I can’t recall right now.
I hope that you have a fine weekend.
Hey @Fern,
I agree, the plotline is interesting. The junior chef is a rather interesting character!
We had a mini heat, with yesterday being the worst day so far, I do hope it won’t be that hot. I hope that you will have a fine weekend yourself!