I’m game for a rewatch. I just need to know the exact time and day. 😃

I’m a sucker for this drama. I wonder why? 🙄😂

Kumawo! 🌷🙇🏻‍♀️

Hi @Diane, that’s what I was hoping for… that the heart will want what it wants, and Hae In always was attracted to HW. I guess it will be some 8-9 hours before I may get it subbed and up for us to view. Counting down . . .

@pkml3,
Queen of Tears Ep 15
I skipped watch until the part where HI is looking through her empty drawers and listening to her MP3 player. I’ll probably only watch the end of Ep 15 and then jump to Ep 16. Can’t bear watching scenes where we get the lies of Eun Sang.

I did say on the LR thread that this show was going into predictable territory, which means I can pretty much ignore Ep 15 and parts of 16. Now that you mention makjang, all the more I’d like to avoid a proper watch of 15.

Plothole: family should not have let only HW go to Germany. After hearing that he’s imprisoned they should have gone over to support HI. She’d have been alone… instead they just let ES do it???

Camera focus: The notebook was not fully burnt to ashes when the snow came down and presumably put out the fire. So it should turn up in Ep 16 if not earlier.

Plot point: If HI is smart, then seeing all the drawers empty should wise her up to someone hiding stuff from her, and hence lying as well. The main person talking and filling her head with info had been ES. Her logical conclusion should be that he’s the most suspicious character.

I had hoped that listening to the MP3 would have jogged her memory or what’s left of it. But I’ll have to watch more to see.

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BTW, @pkml3, I’ve done up a schedule for the Rewatch of Signal. So far, the majority of regular rewatchers are fine with this. Please put this up for the Rewatch Thread of Signal. Many thanks!

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/18NCxv3slRaamb3oK-CZAWH3o3DuLyte8/edit?usp=sharing&ouid=107152512466791964570&rtpof=true&sd=true

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Thanks @angelwingssf, @pkml3 and @agdr03, you’ve saved me the trouble to watch Ep 15. I’ve got some work to do today, so I’d prefer to spend my leisure time on something less annoying. 😉

Thanks @HK_Lady! Another thorough and succinct recap. I think if I watch, I’ll just target the times when HI stalks HW. LOL.

Where are my kisses??? 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

Where do I send an official complaint??? 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

@agdr03, true, true, I know how you feel. We’ve been let down. That was a happy ending but why does it feel like this?

Hello all 🥺🥺
It’s been too long since I feel so awkward by the ending of a drama that I think I need to go here and read all your comments the drama experts..

And I am sure I am not the only one. Agdr, GB, Kelley….. you guys feel it tooo right?!?!? I am not crazy right ?!?!?!?!?!?
I feeel so heartbroken by the end of this episode and I didn’t understand why. I felt this ache last night.

My logic: ok, every makjang antagonist characters have reached their miserable fate. Ok, our main couple are back together now. We even get to seee the glimpse of their child. The sides couple : beomja auntie and soocheol+dahye also have the heartwarming scenes. Even hyunwoo’s sister (i thought i could see one more of cameo in this drama, as her husband, but no, i just have to be happy with the plane ticket and how the husband relayed i love you towards his father-in-law) this scene still feel nice for me.

My heart: why do i feel so empty and sad about the main couple. I don’t understand. I think i am crazy. I feel the happy ending so bittersweet for me. Is it because the timeline has been stretched to the 50 years later in the future. The scene of the old guy visiting a grave brought flowers. I remember this scene when Hae in saw this man and suddenly the man is disappeared. I remember HI told HW whether he would be like that when HI already gone. And to top it off, the scene in lavender field. Oh why oh why. HI with the white dress, as the angel who will pick HW soul from this earth. I watch too many fantasy drama, and this is exactly the scene when some Haraboji who love his wife so much, reaching his end of lifetime and imagining the scenes when he would follow her to death. The wife will be young again, the wife will turn her back looking so angelic, and she will take the husband hand to bring him to heaven.
No no no no why this is tooo sad for me to be the ending of this drama. I don’t need this kind of scenes. I just need it to be end with like a wedding or the xx-th honeymooon. More cute scenes between the couple. Why do i have to see these scenes 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

Hhhhhhh.. i am so sorry.
I never write any of my thoughts before for this drama. But suddenly I feel so … i don’t know i just want to let it out. Where can Ifile my official complaint?!?!?! 😭😭😭😭🥹🥹🥹🥹🥹

Howdy! I haven’t seen the last episode but I know that there wasn’t any kisses, only one sweet kiss in the cheeks. 🥰

That was my complaint.

I’ll come back after I watch it. ☺️

😂😂 I’ll take the HEA.

I was so bummed out about the ending of “Crash Landing With You” (long distance relationship + inexecutable marriage = unresolved ending), that this is still an improvement.

On a side note, I’m glad “Queen of Tears” broke CLOY’s viewing record. 🎉🎉

I always thought the numbers were hyper-inflated and thus, an aberration. Back in 2020, a) the world needed a distraction from the COVID scare, b) the home isolation and social distancing meant we were glued to our TVs and laptops as our primary source of entertainment, and c) many viewers were neophytes to the kdrama scenes/tropes and they just lapped up all the over-the-top romantic scenes in CLOY without discernment.

It was hard to argue that the screenwriter was engaged in cliches that we kdrama veterans had seen many times, when the newbies were so enthralled by them all. To them, the love between Capt Ri and Seri was the greatest thing since sliced bread — or Romeo and Juliet. 🙄🙄🤪🤪🤦🏼‍♀️🤦🏼‍♀️

I think this drama deserves a second look if only to assess the consistency in the writer’s style, organization, and worldview.

Of course, it also helps that the main actor is muy simpatico. I still remember when I first saw him weep in “The Moon Embracing the Sun.” He realized that he had been unwittingly torturing his long-lost childhood friend and sworn lover, so he broke down in tears. I typically don’t like to watch grown men crying, but Kim Soo Hyun did it so prettily that I wanted to pat his back and say, “There. There. It’ll be okay.”

Off to watch now.

@pkml3, Enjoy your watch of Ep 16.

Well, perhaps we can say that after Crash Landing we should have been warned. But at least Crash Landing had more lengthy couple interactions that felt romantic and warm.

This writer’s happily ever after is just the fulfillment of a ‘commitment’ to being faithful when apart or separated by death, without needing the feels. The assurance of the commitment is sufficient for Writer-nim and the romance is just a happy side-effect.

@GB,
I could not agree more on what you’ve written above. This is the first time maybe, I feel that the happy ending could feel worse than the sad ending. On the sad ending, at least it was a clean slate. But an ending like this Show, that give us the sour taste like you said… really dragged to the bone. Hahaha. I ironically laughed because I couldn’t find a best word to describe my feeling towards the writer.

I’m starting to assume that the writer initially didn’t want to give us the happy ending. But maybe the investor, the production house, etc. Pushed her to give the happy ending, but to satisfy her own desire, the viewers got to see the Unnecessary scenes on ending. Like, yes I know, all the people will be dead in the end. However, I hope to watch this Show not to be thrown back into the reality life we live in. I want to get inside their sweet moments.. or what about HI filling the candy jar, making new sweet memories with HW. That’s one of my purpose on watching this drama. But no, the Show don’t care about what the viewers want to *SEE*.

Really.. Even having meal with conversations between all characters would be nice and enough for me.
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Annyeong,

I know not everyone is happy with the HEA of QOT but… here’s my

EP16 ~ finale recap reactions 🥹

Omo it’s not ES who’s in the car of doom. Who is that???
So we know who got HI now, don’t we. Omo

As HW is being wheeled to surgery, flashback to his proposal at the aquarium. HI has forewarned her about her family. HW had no idea what her family is like before he proposed? Why had he not meet the family first? But I like what he said about siding with her even though she sides with her family. That’s what marriage is. I laughed with them when HW shared that he was duped by scammers. I loved his proposal. Realist yet romantic at the same time. Almost like a vow really.

HI wakes up in someone’s bedroom. More likely ES 🫤

The parents went to the hospital but HW is gone.

HI managed to escape the bedroom but was dumbfounded when she saw ES in the living room with a gun. HI is smart when she tried not to provoke ES. She has to play dumb. But ES has other plans about leaving and getting married.

HW used Grace again to have Ms Moh locate where HI is before he left the hospital. Ms Moh finds out that all the $$$ has been by converted to dollars by ES. She leaves the house. HW and atty YG follows her entourage of cars. The procession led them to the Hong Villa where they hunt.

HW goes in by foot. We see the snow falling, the silhouette of the snow covered trees. HW is not in a good condition to be doing this rescue 😓.

HI overhears ES and Ms Moh talk about when Su-wan died. She caused it the accident. She was disappointed that HI made it alive then😳 and that’s because HW saved her. And he does it again tonight. ES saw them running away and he goes after them with a shotgun.

HW wanted HI to go ahead to the main gate but HI won’t leave her. She revealed to him that she knows everything now. Even the part about being in the same boat (his proposal). So HW holds on to her and they clasped hands as they escape through the snowy forest.

ES is in his jeep and sees them. The police arrives and YG opens the gate for them. As ES stops in front of them, the helicopter 🚁 hovers above them.

HI confesses that ES made her feel uneasy even though she didn’t have her memory. I think when she said “over my dead body” that triggered him. As police surrounds ES, he brings his gun up and aims for HI. He fires and HW took the bullet instead. EScreloads his gun then the police fires on him before he takes another shot. Daebak. ES dead body drops in the cement. We see HI’s necklace on him. HW slowly falls onto the white snow as it turns red blood. Hi is crying 😭 and screaming.

In the ambulance, HW is losing more blood. He raises his hand and HI grabs it. Before HW goes into surgery scene is so much like when Hi went to her surgery. HI remembers that moment. She cried and felt to bad that she mistreated HW.

Meanwhile, Ms Moh and her goons found the money. The police came and informed her of ES’s death. Flashback to when she abandoned ES as a boy 😭

HI’s parents are looking at a family album – the last summer at the beach in particular when SW drowned. They were interrupted by Beom with bad news.

HW’s parents are back in the hospital where they saw HI and introduced themselves. Hi cried some more saying sorry. HW’s mom reassuringly hugged her.

Intertwined fate. The moms talk about the beach event where HI’s mom blamed HI for the death of her brother. How she didn’t realize somebody saved HI from drowning. And how she was too preoccupied by the loss to know who even saved HI. HW’s mom encouraged her to let go of the past, pray HW pulls through and be grateful moving forward. I love how the parents bond in this show.

Ms Moh confirmed ES’s death and wants all his shares transferred to her. She continues to aim for the chairmanship. Ms Moh got the iPad with the incriminating videos and threw them in the river 🙄

The family gathered to hear the good news that HW pulled through. He’s still unconscious.

HI is on HW’s hospital bedside with no sleep or food 😳. She feigns fainting Miss Drama Queen HI 👏🏽. HW wakes up and held on to her coz she was gonna call the doctor. They both felt sorry for their failures. It’s a 2 way street. I like how HW was able to reach out to gently touch her face and cup her cheek. *swoon 💕 I’m glad they had this moment before the family came and broke their moment. But the family moment that followed was equally sweet.

I like when Secretary Na shared what she learned from the drama unfolding before their eyes. That abstract nouns like love, friendship, faithfulness and loyalty may not be visible but they definitely exist. Plus they’re the most powerful.

Divorce Atty KYG and HI finally met in the hospital. He reminded her that it’s pointless to dig into the past and to just worry about HW who is blinded by love and sacrificed himself for her. HI commended him for being a good friend. He was flattered and said “the truth always reveal itself in tough times”. And that’s why HW realized how much he loves HI.

Love is in the air. HI read the last thing she wrote to herself – not to let go of HW. She left the room and when she returned, the journal is on the table. HW wrote a reply to her last note- “I won’t let you let go. I’m still here” 💕 HW is sly. But not too good coz HI caught him 😄. They were having a moment so instead of barging in, the family went out to eat instead 😃 even though they’re starting out as strangers, that’s the best part and couples are happiest – per the Yongdu-ri ladies. They’re swooning at the thought of HI and HW having a new beginning 🤣 that husbands are the most handsome- when you barely know them LOL. We see HI taking care of HW on the hospital and spoon feeding him. 💕

At HMD’s grave, the 3 siblings reunite and vow to avenge their dad.

I was right. ES would have intercepted the package from Germany 😳 – HW had to use Grace to make sure that didn’t happen. Plus the MP3 showing up in his room. Thanks Grace 👏🏽. Daebak!!

DH brings SC to the orphanage where they first met. How she awaited their visit and the strawberry shortcake. How she stole his bunny doll and kept it all these years. How she waited for him and now it’s his turn. She wants to pay for her crimes but SC won’t let her.

In court, DH testifies against Ms Moh. But she doesn’t have any evidence 🥹 HI’s testimony or closing statement is the biggest shocker of all coz of what she overheard the night she was kidnapped. And they have proof. Again, Grace to the rescue. She swapped and copied the iPad. 👏🏽 It was damning and there’s no turning back from that. She was arrested right there and then. And the Queens Grouo family has been reinstated 👏🏽

ES’s painting is replaced with the Hong and Baek family portrait 💕

Aunt Beom started dating Mr Kim. It’s his first time to be in a relationship. Omo. Beom tells him to take his sweet time LOL

HW sister gets a plane fare from the parentals so they don’t end up divorcing LOL

HI ends up back in HW’s room. One single glow in the dark star and the worst memory came back to haunt her. We find out what happened to the baby. It was a miscarriage. 💔 That’s when things got cold and walls were built between our OTP. 😭

The proposal at the cherry blossoms 🌸 road ❤️❤️❤️ “I’ll stay by your side. No matter what happens, I can mend things when they’re broken. it may not always be perfect but I can do that. If that’s ok with you, then will you marry me”. So seamless, effortless, natural 🥹 who can say no to that? 🤪

But HI doesn’t want to rush. Starting with holding hands. Having breakfast together. Taking walks everyday. Road trip every season.

SC and Geon boy greets DH when she was released from prison. The father son looked so cute 🥰 SC was proud to announce that he taught Geon how to ride the bike. Awww 😊 and Grace was included and invited to the family dinner 👏🏽

So funny. aunt Beom is losing her patience with Mr Kim. She was expecting a first kiss on the lips but got one on the cheeks instead LOL. She’s pretty with her long hair and she looks more demure haha

We see HI and HW back in Sans Souci Palace stairs together, then with a little girl in tow 🥰💕😍 at another time, then after 2074 we see one solitary old man climbing the stairs.

In the spring, we see the same old man visiting the garden that has a memorial stone on it in memory of Hae In **22 Aug 1990- 7 April 2974** spending my life with you has been a miracle”

Interestingly enough, this scene was seen by HI before her surgery. 😳 Daebak. HI lived to be 84!!! Wow.

We see the old HW back in the lavender flower Field. I love this location 🥰 who doesn’t?

We see their younger versions and a voiceover — “one day when only one of us is left… the other one can come meet them. Then it won’t be scary at all. Because we’ll be together”.

Happy ending. We see family photo frames.

For all of the reasons listed above AND the brave soul who noted that we watch for the drama not for reality. Thank you!! That probably more than the lack of a wedding and other kissing scenes probably did me in. They took me on this surreal ride and then dumped me back to real life.

Side note: even though our main characters live happily for 50 more years the pictures/visuals we were shown seemed to miss the last 47 of them — no shots of them watching the daughter growing, marry etc and the family photos displayed all made me think that of photos of a young family- not one that aged together so until I read about the dates on the headstone I thought she really didn’t get AS long as she got- sort of like you can’t beat fate/the treatment only worked for a little while which really made me sad. Knowing the writer’s truth helped a little but still.

Lastly I thought the words ‘Happy Ending’ was the writer’s sarcastic way of saying, ‘here’s your happy ending viewer, now shut up and sit down.’ I didn’t even watch it all I was so disappointed.

@agdr03 From what I read of the special episodes, they are only interviews with the cast and not even with the cast together. I do not think all these edited Behind the Scenes shots will get shown. My question is why in the first place were they cut? 😓 They would have assuaged the bitterness of this ending.

Here is KSH and KJW saying their thank you for making Queen Of Tears TVN’s Number 1 highest rated drama of all time. 🥳🥳🥳

https://x.com/cjndrama/status/1785214192519418092?s=46&t=BT0tHWWRRX1rx64As5f8XQ

Me too @GB. I didn’t know there’s that much. 😁

The other video link that’s not working anymore was ImSol and SunJae finally admitting that they like each other, not just in words. 😉

I’ve calmed down now and more capable of saying a rational opinion regarding the end of Queen of Tears. Lol

After rewatching, I’ve come to realize that I am actually okay with the ending. I no longer cried out of frustration but cried because I was happy. It hurts because it was realistic.

Oh to love and be loved is such a wonderful feeling. And knowing that they stayed together until the end will really tug at your heartstrings. Like what Kim Soo Hyun said in one of the interviews/presscon you would really be asking the question is it possible to love like that?

It’s sad the Netflix did not include this in the end but in the original broadcast they ended with a parting message.

Based from papago translation the message read:
“I hope it was a time to look back and love the precious people around you.”

And it basically summed up the entire message of the story. To remember the good times but to also live in the moment.

I think one of the main issues I had with watching Queen of Tears was that I mainly focused on the ‘romcom’ thinking it would just be light and breezy and full of laughter. After the ending, I was reminded about what my HS teacher told us in class, that just because there is comedy it doesn’t mean it has to be funny,comedies also end in happy endings. And to be with your most beloved in the afterlife is one of the best happy endings one could wish for.

I hope you would continue to do your deep dive of the OST because QOT OST has one of the best osts out there. The main theme ‘In a beautiful way’ as well as the last song sung by Kim Soo Hyun is the best at tying up the whole drama together. Way home is such a beautiful lullaby. I think almost all of the OST give off the melancholic and wistful vibe when you listen to it. Anyway im sorry if this wasn’t coherent enough but yeah. Thank you, Queen of Tears. And thank you guys for wonderful commentary.

Thanks @GB for the link. Her review mentioned a fair bit of my experience watching QOT. Although the last few episodes had gone into the makjang zone, I enjoyed QOT very much overall and even the ending too. Many people didn’t like the ending but I find it acceptable and beautifully done with KSH song. It reminds me of another drama Uncontrollably Fond where the death of the male lead was handled very gently and appropriately.

@agdr03, thanks for the link! This is what I was referring to when I said that we were baited by shots of them being so lovey-dovey… we only had the short version of these. I was waiting for their more substantial honeymoon flashbacks or if these were to give indications of their future happy times, then I was waiting for more cordial couple times and family get-together times … but we were ‘cheated’!!! We had so much angsty times and these scenes which seemed to promise more joy to balance out the angst, never materialised.

Their kissing scenes were really sizzling!

https://www.facebook.com/share/v/z83ugbu8kdiar8bh/?mibextid=WC7FNe

You’re welcome.

Maybe TVN is playing a hand of poker.