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Ep 11-15
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I seem to recall Ep 10 and 11 were important with regards to the turn the OTP relationship took.
Hello, @Growing Beautifully. I have just started episode 11 and hope to get a few more in this evening.
I was wondering if anyone could tell me the meaning of the writing on the window in episode 11, about 07:10?
IN episode 11 the most important scene to me was Xu Qin’s dialogue with her brother. She could describe her psychological state so well, but knowing it still didn’t give her enough courage to go to Song Yan. Comparing her upbringing to animal training was shocking but inspired.
I wish Song Yan had been able to ask her what her plan was, if she wanted both her family and him. It looks as though she is determined to rise up at the hospital. Her statement to the interviewers that she became a doctor because it is a steady job was telling to me – I feel that she wants to have something in case her family dis-inherits her- at the worst case scenario, or needs to understand that she can be successful and an honour to the family – at the best case scenario.
Hi @Fern,
I didn’t take Song Yan’s message down word for word but it was something like: “I need to talk to you. I’ll wait for you in the forest.”
In Ep 11 we do not know what may have happened but we see SY waiting in vain at their meeting place and crying bitter tears. More will be revealed later.
@Fern, good catch!
The animal training idea was very apt. And I noted in Ep 3 that SY insulted XQ when he saved her from the car and she had asked if he had known she was there before saving her, by saying that: “Even if a dog had been trapped in the car. I’d have saved it.”
The dog motif pops up again.
As for her preparing for the best and worst case scenario, yes… I feel as if she mentions it somewhere else as well… she is preparing more for the worst case scenario. I feel this interview already shows that she has more or less made up her mind.
I didn’t take down all that she said in the Episode 10 drunken tantrum, but roughly, as far as I recall it … I believe she accused SY of not doing anything to work towards their being together, when she was working single-mindedly to be independent of her family, so that they might have a chance. She had said that she risked losing everything by going to him, but he had not taken a step in her direction, and protested that she’d believed him when he’d said they would be together. She was so disappointed in his coldness and rejection that she’d drunk enough to have the courage to say all that to his face. She declared that she’d no longer head his way.
I believe that speech of hers had woken him up to what she was doing, and what she was hoping/expecting from him, but in his hurt, he had been mainly nursing his pride, in the past 10 years. (So he ran after her but was blocked by Brother)
SY’s desire to excel was triggered by wanting to assuage the feeling of not being good enough for her, but the thought of getting back together with her had not been his main goal. We find in Ep 11, that on the other hand, XQ seemed to have made plans and was preparing to execute them, but…. the Show had to prolong the conflict LOL.
Aha. So the message on the window was from SY to XQ and the brother wiped it off and didn’t tell her. The brother is definitely part of the problem, removing communications like the mother steamed open then burnt the letter written to XQ by SY.
I haven’t read the novel, but I understand that in it SY and XQ had a very intense amorous relationship in high school – not just larking about having fun together. For me, that didn’t come across at all in this production, so it just seems that they went from a short period of mild dating back then to this very visceral reaction to each other in the present. For me, it felt unrealistic given the 8 years of separation.
This sort of thing was better represented in another Cdrama we watched within the last year or so (Sorry, I can’t remember the name 😣 and can’t find it by a long search) when the ML and FL met in high school. He worked as a mechanic in his awful, violent father’s garage, later becoming a policeman. She went on to university and a posh job before they met up again in Chinese Mongolia. It was done subtly, but we understood that they had more than a friendly relationship back in high school, so the strong re-meet feelings weren’t such a surprise.
@Fern
The cdrama you’re talking about is “Road Home.” 🙂
Thank you, @packmule3. I really enjoyed that drama. It was satisfying from start to finish and the 30 episodes sped by.
I’ve finished episode 15 of Fireworks now. There is a little bit of humour in the last couple of episodes. I like that the Jiang Yu, the ‘blind date’ sabotaged the families’ meeting at the request of XQ. They understand each other at least. The same Jiang Yu is also the new instructor at the fire station and it looks like a blooming bromance between him and Song Yan.
Song Yan and Xu Qin are getting slowly more confident in themselves and in each other. An abandoned child who is saved from a burning slum makes them reflect on their own histories and brings them some more understanding.
I just rewatched Episode 11 and realised that I made a mistake in one of my posts. XQ was doing wood carving as a kid, long before she met SY’s uncle. So she didn’t get inspired to work with wood by the uncle, however it must have been nice to hang out with another lover of wood-working.
@GB, she was carving an elephant, wasn’t she? I wondered if the carving hobby pre-dated her adoption. Is the saying ‘An elephant never forgets’ the same in Chinese and therefore somehow significant? Or perhaps some other saying that I’m ignorant of but is relevant, too?
Hi @Fern, I’ve never heard of anything to do with elephants in particular. Elephants are not mentioned in the link below.
https://www.nationsonline.org/oneworld/Chinese_Customs/animals_symbolism.htm
However on a blog, the writer said “In China, the elephant is a symbol of strength and wisdom.”
In a Feng Shui webpage:
“In the application of feng shui, the elephant is considered a sacred symbol. Although it is often used to symbolize power, wisdom, strength, and fertility, it can also be used to symbolize longevity, good luck, and success. It can act as the grantor of wishes and as the protector of the household.”
https://www.lovetoknow.com/home/design-decor/applications-how-place-feng-shui-elephant#:~:text=In%20the%20application%20of%20feng,the%20protector%20of%20the%20household.
I guess we can just infer that subconsciously she wanted to have the strength of courage like an elephant, to break free from the suppression that she felt. 🙂
Thank you, @GB. Strength and wisdom as an aspiration will fit her mindset. We see this increasingly in her working persona as well.