I mentioned in another post that dialogues don’t necessarily have to contain words. Sometimes eyes can do the talking; sometimes the hands. Body language can be used like verbal language to communicate and express inner thoughts and feelings. I mentioned “Pride and Prejudice.”
My good friend @nrllee recommended a couple more scenes from P&P and I’m posting them here in case some of the readers here (@agdr03?) would like to watch P&P one day.
Just like in this old country song, “You say it best, when you say nothing at all,” the smile on your face and the touch of your hand evoke sincere emotions without needing to use words.
Thanks @nrllee!
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Ooo…yes one of my favourite scenes from that remake of Pride and Prejudice. 😍. What was left unsaid is often more pertinent that what was. The power of suggestion trumps visual excess. Restraint makes it so much more tantalizing, yes? Leaves room for my mind to “fill in the delicious blanks” 😂.
Sparks fly for me with good meaningful dialogue, appropriate music, reasonable (and logical, read organic) build up to the moment and dare I say it…cinematography. All working parts that have to come together just so to make it work.
2 other scenes from that remake come to mind.
1. Going for Jane. The scene opens with Lizzie trudging through miles of marshland to make her way to Darcy’s to see her sick sister Jane. Soft piano music, a shadowy resolute figure marching in fog, a single solitary tree in the background. Perfection. Then the sudden switch of scenes to the stuffy breakfast room with inane conversation between Darcy and his snobby sister. Darcy tenses as soon as the servant announces “Ms Elizabeth Darcy”.
He only has eyes for her. The REAL her. Fiery, wild spirited, irresistible. Stilted conversation between the OTP…awkward pauses…the clock ticking in the background just adds to the discomfort…blatantly obvious that HE LOVES HER ❤️. No words need to be said. And his sister’s remark in the end only seals it for the audience that he saw the REAL Lizzie Bennet. “My goodness did you see her hem?? 6 inches deep in mud”. That was all she saw…unkempt, dirty, not fit to be seen Lizzie.
But we the audience know that he saw different. He didn’t even notice her hem 😂.
2. Final scene was perfection. Meeting in the foggy marshland. Her hem was mud caked (again 😮). Dawn…birds chirping softly. She pauses to see a solitary figure in the distance, walking resolutely towards her. Music swells. It’s him!! Not all starched and pressed but just as casual and unadorned as she is! 😮. They meet. Exchange courtesies. He makes his tentative (and rather long winded) confession again (no longer brash and demanding like his first one – he is hesitant and respectful but hopeful).
As he makes his confession, he notes the faintest hints of a smile and he inches closer before finally stuttering on the simplest 3 words…”You have bewitched me body and soul and I love…I love…I love…you”. O my heart ❤️ 😘. Perfectly articulate till then. Vulnerable. Heart on sleeve. She pauses (knowing full well she is in control and the ball is in her court), then she moves towards him, takes his hand and plants a kiss on it as her response. “Well then…your hands are cold.”
He nods and they seal their union with a gentle meeting of their minds (foreheads touching). The sun rises in the background…no kiss…just tenderness, longing, resolution – all there as a new dawn breaks on their relationship 😍. I can rewatch this scene over and over again. So much unsaid but she said all that was necessary. It still sends chills. 😍
No need to get me to watch Pride & Prejudice. After reading this ☝🏻 comment by @nrllee , I’m watching it tomorrow if not tonight. ☺️ Thanks for this @nrllee ! You’re post made my heart raise for Mr Darcy and Lizzie.
It’s time for me to get into the real chemistry. 😉
I’ll let you know how I go. Laters! 👋🏻
hahaha. I saw what you did there: mocking me with that word, “chemistry”
Talk to you later. Getting dinner ready here, too. My hubby’s traveling so I can watch kdrama while eating. I’ve to catch up with @lovebangwon.
Dang it all, reading your post @packmule3, now I have to scour the streaming services so I can watch this film again (for the 100th time). I envy you @adgr03 the joy of discovering this film for the first time. I saw it at a special advance screening when it was first released way back in 2005 (has it really been 14 years?)
It’s got 2 endings, so I’ll be interested to hear your thoughts. I also like the first confession/proposal scene from this movie for its use of atmosphere and non verbal acting.
Good as this film is though, my all time favorite version is still the 1995 BBC miniseries starring Colin Firth. I strongly encourage everyone to watch this masterpiece. I’ve seen most all versions (1940, 1980, 1995, 2005) and that one is still the best for me, hands down. And for a cool remake with a different flavor, try Indian-British film Bride & Prejudice (2004).
I really like this remake. I was sceptical at first. After Colin Firth…it was going to be hard to top. Still, this version was modern. I liked it. All the important scenes were there and the PD/writer put their own interpretation to it. It moved quickly (much better paced for younger impatient viewers). I especially liked how they portrayed their dad (Mr Bennet). The whole movie was beautifully done.
I like it too, @nrllee. (Although 1995 will always be my #1.) And I just read the other post so I’ll have to say to you “Dang it, after reading your poetic thoughts about those scenes, I have to go and watch this film again!” 🙂 Yes, the relationship between Mr. & Mrs. Bennett was softened for this film version but I didn’t mind. Another thing I liked in this film was that the 2 main leads actors were actually the same ages of their characters in the book, which I felt added a lot. A very nice film, indeed.
@Table122000 🙂. I leave you with the sage words of Miguel as you indulge your Austen-esque fantasies. I may well join you and rewatch too if I can spare an hour or two tonight 😂.
“Love (they say) sometimes flies, sometimes walks, runs with one, creeps with another. Warms a third, burns a fourth. Wounding some, and slaying others. In one moment it begins, performs and concludes its career; lays siege in the morning to a fortress which is surrendered before night, there being no fortress that can withstand its power”
― Miguel de Cervantes Saavedra, Don Quixote ❤️
@packmule , I think I just have a different meaning to chemistry. 😊 For me the actors needs to click together (I admit that I like my actors/actresses to be pretty in my eyes) and the eye contact must speak volumes for me. From what you’ve said maybe I’m the opposite? That is, I like to see how the actors are together, their dialogues then their surroundings. 😊 I’ve never seen any 3X rated/porn so I thought there was no chemistry at all in them. I can’t say. 😄
Anyway, I need help please in where to watch Pride and Prejudice. I was ready to watch tonight but it’s not on Netflix and YouTube. I thought it was there. Thank you.
@agdr03
I searched for Pride & Prejudice (2005). It will be showing tonight at 5:45 PM Eastern on Flix cable channel. It’s also showing on Showtime Showcase channel. I don’t know if you have access to those channels as part of your cable TV package.
It is available on iTunes for purchase or rent. you can rent on itunes for $3.99
It is available for purchase on Amazon.
I don’t know how you feel about “other sites”, but I found a link on Openload:
https://openload.co/f/4v-rtirg_DQ
Openload has popup windows and ads to get through. The site also can buffer/freeze, depending on your PC.
Lastly, I found it on Vimeo in chunks. Vimeo video quality is not the greatest, but I didn;t think the quality was unwatchable. You may feel differently. If you can deal with the film being in parts and also the Vietnamese fansubtitles at the bottom of the screen, Vimeo doesn’t have the ads or popups problem, and usually does not have buffering issues. P.S. This version on Vimeo is the British version, not the American version. The American version has an additional ending scene, but I will say the extra scene is really just that-extra. I don;t think you miss anything by not having it.
Part 1:
Part 2:
Part 3:
Good luck!
@adgr03 try your local library. The old fashioned way…DVD. Mine has a couple of copies and it’s free. 🙂. And it will probably also have the deleted scenes and alternate ending.
Wow! Thanks so much @Table122000 for the detailed links on where I can watch P&P. I’ll check it tonight. 😘
I’ve checked my local library @nrllee but no luck. I’ll try the others. Thanks 😘
Wow! Thanks @Table122000 for the extensive information on where I can watch P&P! I’ll check it tonight. 😘
I went to the local library @nrllee but no luck. I’ll look at other library too. Thanks 😘
I had this comment before but not sure if it posted. Please delete if there’s a double @packmule . Thanks ☺️
I checked. It went to my “Do not approve” list. I don’t know why that happened. I’ll clean up later. On my phone with hubby. 🙂
No worries @packmule thanks 😊
Just having lunch now then going to comment on MTF. ☺️
I tell you what, it’s an eye opener what the family go through in buying a home in the drama.
You’re welcome, @agdr03. I’ll be interested to read your thoughts on the film.
I didn’t realize those Vimeo links would embed here, so sorry about that @pm3.
No worries. I didn’t know it either. I liked that. I’m having trouble opening the YT links in the comment section so the Vimeo links are better. 👍
@Table122000 As a whole I liked the pacing of the 2005 movie remake. I liked the agrarian bucolic scenes mixed in (this is usually overlooked or played down in most Austen shows) – the inclusion of cows, pigs, chickens which would be the norm in those days given the poorer status of the Bennets. It’s grimier and muddier (yes I like mud on Lizzie’s hems). Also the way in which there are sweeping snippets of bits and pieces sprinkled in to give context and a bigger ‘picture’ into how everything is intertwined was interesting. The singing maid. The framed window scenes of different rooms in the house and different conversations offering different perspectives of the matter after Bingley proposed. The camera moving quickly through the various rooms during the ball giving insights on how different conversations were being had – normal mundane family conversations (Mr Bennet and Mary), tipsy Mrs Bennet, giggly Lydia and Kitty. Quick snapshots of the people surrounding Lizzie and Darcy giving just enough to inform the audience about the context of their conversations when they bicker but not so labored that the audience loses interest. The music score was brilliant. And yes I rewatched it. 🙂
Hello. 🙂 I was able to watch P & P 2005 twice yesterday, in the afternoon while I had 7 boys (5 cousins came for playtime) in the house and at night time. Firstly I had that smile on my face when I saw the going to Jane scene. Mr Darcy stood up so abruptly that you can tell he was very conscious of Lizzie. 😁 I felt that tightening on her hand too when he helped her up on the horse carriage. I would have looked at him too with wonder.
I thought he noticed her first in that ball which confirmed it for me after watching it twice. She was looking down though so she didn’t see him giving her a glance. What a snob really, ‘do you dance Mr Darcy?’, ‘not if I can help it.’ Ok. 😀 I’ve never watched Matthew Macfadyen in any film before but he was very suited to the role. I can see his eyes communicating very well with Lizzie’s expressive ones. I was laughing when he burst through the door of Mr and Mrs Collin’s house to see Lizzie only to say the house was very nicely done by his Aunt. 😄 In my head I was like come on, say that you like her. He didn’t lie when he said his not good at expressing himself.
I actually liked his first confession in the rain. I thought it came deep from his heart. I thought too that they were almost going to kiss. I felt it, that electricity, that pull. It was definitely there. I loved that he was honest enough about what he did and to correct it himself, was very noble of him.
Lizzie is one tough cookie/woman 😊 I loved her passion and honesty. I loved the way she expressed herself and really fought for her beliefs. I liked her scene when she told Jane to not say that it was bad that Mr Bingley came with Mr Darcy. I loved her expression there. 🙂
I’m not good with words but I really really enjoyed this movie. 😍 It’s amazing that you only need to see how Mr Darcy and Lizzie look at each other and then listen to what their saying and you know that affection and love are there. This one I can say had chemistry. I loved that ending with the kisses from the forehead to her lips. My mind has gone to lalaland imagining what happened next. I bet they were the first couple to have a child. 🥰
I only saw the one ending but I will try to watch the 1995 version to see which one I like more.
I have to add that the pacing of the story was very good for me. It flowed and I didn’t think there was any scene that could have been cut.
I forgot to say that I liked the scene where Mr Darcy introduced his sister, Georgiana to Lizzie. So telling that she said she feels like she’s known her because her brother talks about her a lot. 😄
I didn’t mind Mr and Mrs Bennet too though I had to keep in mind that this was set in those year were you need to marry your daughter off even at 15. 😬
It’s amazing that the book was published in 1812-1813? I was shocked. 😊
@nrllee- Thanks for your insights on the film. Your comments made me watch the movie with new eyes as I’m not much good at the technical aspects of film analysis. Yes, I agree with you the pacing was good in the movie-nothing felt rushed. I also liked the multiple perspectives in the film (ex: when the camera went to multiple rooms of the Bennet house to give a glimpse of what each of the characters were doing) There is a lot going on in the film. It has a more passionate tone, where the original source material is more cerebral, but that is what I like about it.
@agdr03-So glad that you enjoyed P&P 2005! I also liked that confession in the rain scene. As I said before, an excellent example of non verbal acting and use of setting going on there. Yes, you could feel the tension! It was an interesting choice to change the setting of that scene from indoors (in the original novel) to the outdoors (for this film version).
As for the ending, well if you saw that kiss then you watched the American version. That whole scene is not in the British version which just ends after Lizzie and Mr. Bennet’s talk, and then he laughs alone in his study. I’ve got mixed feelings about that scene. On the one hand, I liked that we had a nice kiss at the end, but on the other hand…did they have to copy Sixteen Candles? So cheesy!
I remember when I first saw the film in the movie theater and they showed Mr. Darcy & Lizzie sitting on top of the table…I knew what was coming. I thought to myself ” No! They did not just do a ripoff of Sixteen Candles for a Jane Austen film!” (Not denigrating the film Sixteen Candles by the way- I totally love that movie!) But was it appropriate for Jane Austen…I don’t think so. Could have had a nice kiss scene without the reference.
And to your point about the source material still being relevant 200 years later… When I saw it in 2005, the audience was mostly women in their 20’s at this advance screening. The scene between Darcy and Elizabeth where he talks about his requirements of an “accomplished woman” and Lizzie replies she wonders at his knowing any accomplised women. The dialog for that scene lifted straight from the source material, no changes, and still got a laugh from the audience. Pretty amazing.
I’ll be interested to hear your thoughts regarding the 1995 miniseries. I do think it’s the best one at capturing the novel.
I spoke with my assistant who’s an avid P&P viewer. She said that there’s a Bollywood version, zombie parody (?!) and even a Mormon version of the book. She’s lending me her DVD collection tomorrow. 😂
I told her this was purely research.
“She said that there’s a Bollywood version, zombie parody (?!) and even a Mormon version of the book. 😂“
🙄 says it all. I refused to watch any of those.
@agdr03 Matthew MacFadyen was also in Little Dorrit (BBC version) with Claire Foy. A mini series which I watched a few times. It was that good. That was when I first discovered Claire Foy (before she became Queen Elizabeth in The Crown which was also brilliant).
@nrllee , I love Claire Foy in The Crown! Brilliant indeed! I wish it’s still her in the next season but they’ve changed the actress. I’ll check Little Dorrit. Where is it best to watch it?
@Table122000 , I really did enjoy it. 🙂 I saw the indoor scene of Mr Darcy’s first confession last night and I can say that I prefer the one in the rain. There was just too many dialogues for me there and I thought the rain actually added more to the feelings that they were going through, the anguish, pain and anger. I’ll look around to where I can watch the mini series. I only saw the bits and pieces in youtube last night.
With the ending that I saw, I was not aware that that was the American version. I was not even sure what Lizzie was doing rubbing Mr Darcy’s back leg? LOL. Can you explain that please? Also, I have not seen Sixteen Candles.
If the actual ending was just Mr Bennet talking with Lizzie then I would have been happy too. I liked that she told her Father the reasons why she’s marrying him and why she loves him. Lizzie holding Mr Darcy’s hand out in the field and their forehead touching was enough for me to see how deep their love is. 🙂
@packmule , I don’t think I will be into P & P with zombies added. LOL. Research! Let me know your findings please. 🤣
@pm3- I’ve seen the Bollywood version, titled Bride & Prejudice, which I much enjoyed and the Mormon version, which was OK. Haven’t seen Pride & Prejudice and Zombies (nor did I read the book). Here’s an article/review about Bride & Prejudice from Asian drama blog Dramas With A Side of Kimchi:
https://dramaswithasideofkimchi.com/2019/06/07/fangirl-movie-review-indian-jane-austen-bride-and-prejudice/
@agdr03- Can’t explain anything about Darcy’s back leg. As for Sixteen Candles, it’s a cute teen comedy from the 1980’s directed by the great John Hughes. Starring Molly Ringwald as Sam, who is turning 16 but her family forgets her birthday and things just spiral down from there. Oh, and she’s got a crush on a senior named Jake. (Spoiler Alert: Has a very nice ending, but you already know that because of P&P ripoff) A film definitely worth checking out.
@nrllee- I also liked the BBC adaptation of Little Dorrit. Another great drama adapted by Andrew Davies, who did the 1995 P&P miniseries. I liked his Bleak House ( 2005) adaptation a lot too. I would also highly recommend the BBC adaptation of North & South starring Richard Armitage if you enjoy the period dramas. So romantic, but also has a lot to say about the industrial revolution.
“ I would also highly recommend the BBC adaptation of North & South starring Richard Armitage if you enjoy the period dramas. So romantic, but also has a lot to say about the industrial revolution”
Swooned over him in North and South multiple times. 😂. His deep baritone voice and that malevolent glare. Mr John Thornton. And Miss Margaret Hale. Sigh… and the cotton mill scenes… breathtakingly beautiful.
@agdr03 I vaguely remember you can watch it on YouTube but that was a while ago… somebody uploaded it. Found it on daily motion https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x83rpl?playlist=xr4we. Not sure if it’s all there though…looks to be in chunks of 7-8min per episode.
Hello! 🙂
@Table122000 , I take it back that I have not seen Sixteen Candles. I have, but I just forgot about it because it’s been years since I saw it. I went to watch a few videos of it and I should have realized it when you said Molly Ringwald. I was a fan of hers. 🙂 How could I forget about Jake? LOL. I will make time to watch the 1995 mini series and let you know how I go. 🙂 Thank you.
@nrllee , thank you for those links. I will try to watch it this weekend. 🙂
I’m going to watch the zombie one 😂 and report back to y’all.
Enjoy! 😊
“I’m going to watch the zombie one 😂”
Go you! Take one for the team 😂
@nrllee Yes! Richard Armitage! Swoon! He was born to play the role of John Thornton. Definitely agree the cinematography was so good in that drama. The framed shots of the mill with the cotton dust and him strolling through…as Margaret narrates “I’ve seen hell and it’s white” really well done. Plus the ending of that drama is surely the most romantic 10 minutes ever put on screen.
@agdr03 Yeah, Sixteen Candles is one of those films that’s been around for so long that you watch it when you are 16 and then easily forgotten in the mists of time. I’ll look forward to reading your take on P&P 1995.
@pm3 Hope you enjoy P&P&Z film. I’ll wait to see your review.
I didn’t get to watch it yesterday. My assistant thought I was kidding about doing research for P and P and didn’t bring the DVDs. 😂 “Off with her head!!!” I said.
I reminded her to bring them in today. (You see? I have a different image at work. None of them will believe that I watch kdramas. 🤣😱😜)
Yes to Richard Armitage. We were in London on business at the height of North and South’s popularity here in the good old USA. And my youngER colleagues were mooning over him and comparing men they met with His Royal Hunkiness. I think the women called themselves the Armitage Army (or Brigade). They weren’t much different from young kpoppers “stanning” a EXO oppa. 😂
Yes, that moment when she said “I’ve seen hell and it’s white” was right on the money. Cotton was the source of the wealth but also their blight. The workers were getting sick from those pretty white cotton dusts floating in the air. That’s why it’s hellish. But the cotton mills drove the economy.
But for Margaret Hale who came from the idyllic south (her garden was like her Eden) and whose background was religion, she would see the situation in context of heaven and hell. And Mr Thornton was the devil incarnate bec he was a factory owner.
The story is meatier than P&P but they’re both romantic. P&P has been adapted so many times though and this is the only N&S version that I know.