I’m just following orders. 🙂
According to @GB, you have rewatches on the following dates:
Episode 10 – Mar 18
Episode 11 – Mar 25
Episode 12 – Apr 1Break – Apr 8
Episode 13 – Apr 15
Episode 14 – Apr 22
Episode 15 – Apr 29
Episode 16 – May 6
@GB, did the time remain the same?
Saturday, 13.30 UTC
5.30am PST
8.30am EST
9.30am Caracas
1.30pm London
2.30pm Paris
3.30pm Athens
9.30pm Singapore, Perth
Enjoy the rewatch.
Heheheheh! @pkml3, you’re a great General to be following orders!
The time remains the same but those who have moved their clocks for daylight savings, please double check your start time.
I Googled that my 9.30pm is still 2.30pm in France (@WE can confirm)
and still 1.30pm in London.
With Daylight Savings, it is probably 6.30am PST, and 9.30am EST.
PLEASE check your time and I hope to see the usual gang and any lurkers as well tomorrow!!
Hi. I confirm 14:30 FR. I’m a MOTA gangster now.
Hi there MOTA Gangster @WE! Why are you a gangster?
See you in 2.5 hours time. 🙂
As I don’t know where to post that, something some people could like here.
Auto-translation from real screenplays. With a bit of formating with regular expressions from notepad++. But it could have irregularities about characters names.
Goblin Ep1:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1X2WgDhzLNeUguiIcEqsUKs_Taf0E8vgo/view?usp=sharing
I hear your voice Ep1:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1CwefQ1GufDfiZGohTqtxelUMCx9D7Swk/view?usp=sharing
Hi, are we starting soon?
Hi @Feifei (@FF) and @WE, yes… we start now!!!
Hi feifei and GB.
So I launch. GO.
@WE. Oooh cool! I will have to take a look at those after this watch is over. Buckwheat is grown in a mountain valley in my home state; the yellow against the blue of the mountains is spectacular. I have not watched much more beyond a few episodes of ‘I hear your voice’; it’s on my very long to do list of watches to finish.
Hi there @SD!
Thanks for the scripts @WE. Goblin’s sounds so nice.. I can see it in my mind as I read it.
I am waiting for my coffee to finish brewing. I will probably start a minute or two behind. Hi @WE, @feifei and @GB!
Enjoy your coffee @SD… I had a nap and sort of just woke up myself. Could do with something to get my brain more awake.
Hi salteddust.
Here we got some happy moments with secretary. As a way already to make us feel bad when he’ll die.
Hi SD,
Here the NPCs can kill another mystery of the game.
Logging out can be tracked in Korea.
Logged and still be in the game.
Started. I love trains. A truly liminal space, in transition, unable to leave….
@WE, just seeing innocent Sec Seo anticipating the quest gets me feeling so sad.
@FF, yup … the servers (if there are 2 of them) are so well linked they can monitor the game from Korea.
@GB, me too. Sec Seo’s fate is so sad.
I don’t remember why he missed the stop?! He was supposed to go in grenada?
It was a fight? And he couldn’t go out of toilet? Why they didn’t go out together?
@SD, everything seems so beyond Jin Wu’s control. He’s stuck waiting, stuck in the train, dependent on others to do the searching for his own secretary for him.
How can JW remain so calm after seeing the message that he has lost his ally? And he has to wait at the station for 40 mins to board a train back to Granada, the wait must be so painfully long.
@WE, the first time I see scripts. I can imagine the amount work and details a writer has to put in to produce a script.
Remember when I often talk about “multi contextual scenes”. Very strong ones. In MOTA, whole episode are structured around that scene. In episode 6, and now this episode. All gravite around the secretary death when he appears as an ally in the catacomb. When I rewatched the episode, I was looking at the convoluted way (with side scenes) how the moment is reached.
@GB. Yes, he is no longer the effective CEO, he also is no longer in control of his own fate or his purchased game.
@WE, Sec Seo left the train first but when he saw that an enemy had appeared, he almost boarded the train again… however JW killed NPC HS and seeing the message, Sec Seo stayed outside. JW had logged into the game while still on the train … and the NPCs came swarming.
It’s not certain if it would have made a difference logged on or not, because even when Sec Seo logged out, he was still being attacked.
And now on the train the over voice and scene we began with. The loop has completed and now moves forward.
@feifei. Yeah huge work. Preparation phase, can be one year. (or less for professionels). Writing one year (ditto, less for pro). Then rewriting/correction phase. Take more time than the writing itself.
Add to that research when you need to (example, it’s in a hospital, so it needs to know all about that place)
Yes @SD, now we continue the one year later that we started with when we saw everything in flashback… much of it being also guesswork by JW.
Killed at spawn. lol.
@WE, I’m blown away by what you call the multi-contextual scenes. So much going on at the same time, branching out here and there, remembering different events, and yet we are able to keep the plot clear. I’d forget how to get the proper story line going after all that.
Here the record of number episodes before a previous flashforward get resolved. I break this record in W season 2.
Of course Im not talking about dramas like Empress Ki starting with one of the end scene. It’s a different concept (starting with the near end).
He looks at his own feet, he realized that he is not limping.
So I have never understood why some of the passengers are screaming. They should just see a crazy guy holding his arm up. Are some also fake?
I wonder if the appearance of JW’s ally is really due to the Pirates being able to locate him and send him to the Alhambra, or whether as an NPC ally, he’d come to help anyway.
@GB, and really it’s SJJ signature. I can’t find some in most of the drama. I remember I saw one in Kairos. In a way we get that too in Inception movie.
@FF, yes, even JW has to adjust to being in the game.
@SD, that was the same question I had when I first saw this and asked in the earliest Rewatches… it seems that the train was relatively empty and lots of the ‘passengers’ were NPCs too… screaming for ambience!!! However it only happened on the train.
SD, me too wonder about those screaming passengers. Maybe non fighting NPCs.
What a pity that all the nice special items had to be left behind.
I wonder how Se Ju managed to incorporate a closed off area of the tourist attraction into his game!!!
Emma always speak with echo.
Yup @FF, non-fighting NPCs is probably right.
GB, arrh, you are too ahead, I’m still with emma. ^^
We get a parallel where while JW is looking for SJ, Hee Ju also dreams that SJ returns.
Badass slow motion, he quits with his gun and a body falls behind him. lol.
The Alhambra Palace is always full of people, there is no way JW can stroll in an empty section of Alhambra and the dungeons are totally blocked. They must have secured special filming rights for this drama.
@WE, I forgot that I put the play in fast mode and forgot to slow it down to normal LOL.
Yes, I’m back with HJ in the workshop. She decides to take up the offer to go and watch the quest in JW’s office with Yang Ju.
SJJ visiting Spains. Alhambra palace. Woo this place is cool, I’d like the protagonist walk here. And, hey there are stairs here, it’s forbidden to enter, but if I make a drama I should get a special autorization to visit this place. ^^
@WE, I never noticed that before, that Emma speaks with an echo. Also interesting that Emma in the game does not age while the real Emma does (though we don’t see it, it’s only a year after all). Subtle but presages what happens to HJ’s brother.
@WE Emma is like a hologram.
@FF, yes, it’s amazing how they got access to Alhambra dungeons.
LOL Yang Ju never even looked properly at HJ before he gave her his card. Comedic moments for a short while… too short! The BGM music is cute.
@SD, I don’t remember too.
Now: he have to drop all his super stuff. ^^
The grid disapear. But as it’s a fictive one… He should be able to enter even when it’s closed? We will never know……..
The zombies have tons of HP. Damn.
LOL Yang Ju is smitten by his ‘idol’ Emma in the flesh.
He’s over-doing the explanation. Poor HJ is starting to see stars but she comprehends what the company has been up to.
@WE, @GB I wonder if SJJ’s flashbacks work as well as they do, because she repeats the same frames? Additionally she has the voice-overs. The entry into the Alhambra palace is a case in point; the first scene where JW walks under the arch is incredibly brief, the point of entry into the dungeons has the voice over of the IT person in Seoul.
New flashforward. Brother is back.
For some reason, he can’t speak but end to say “hee ju”.
@SD, definitely SJJ’s voiceovers are crucial for us to quickly figure out what we’re watching. I don’t really find the frames repeated much, but we do get the linking prologue scenes at the beginning of episodes… a retelling to help us get our bearings.
@WE Chan Yeol, the actor who plays Se Ju had so few scenes but he made the most of the little screen time he had. He was quite good especially since he’s a singer more than an actor (I believe).
@WE, am I interpreting that Yu Ra told Prof Cha that his grandson was not really his and he did the paternity test to check? We never do hear what Yu Ra’s funny story was.
I love how Yang Ju does not look at HJ in the lobby and then gives a little yell when he looks fully at her face in the elevator. One of those little breaks in the tension of the movie that make it better (like Shakespeare).
@GB, the funny story is just between Yura and Prof Cha.
Now we have scenes with poor Park who is bombarded with one thing after another.
A troubling meeting with Cha
The ‘will’ of JW who mentions possibility of his death.
The sudden visit of HJ.
The scene puts him in the corridor with the huge artwork of the passageway into a church behind him… suggesting that instead of following JW into the tunnels of the Alhambra … he should be looking into the church?
It does presage/prefigure that the church will be the place where things end up.
Sexy Yu-Ra drunk. Well, drunk most of the time in the drama.
@FF, exactly… so why start the funny story but never let us hear it… we have to infer that his sudden bringing up of his grandson had to do with the story.
@WE, what was the purpose of the sexy, drunk Yu Ra scene? To show us what Cha thought of both Yu Ra and his daughter-in-law? But we sort of know that already.
I also like the music that accompanies Yang Ju’s explanation of the game quest (which I believe HJ is hearing for the first time), faster and faster, like a carousel, not at all befitting what is actually happening on the quest, but perfectly suited to the character and the situation, a geeky guy trying to impress the unmarried real Emma.
Poor HJ, first she gets and overload of info from YJ, now Park unloads on her all his crumbling trust in JW. She’s hearing pretty bad news if she’s not to trust the only person who can find her brother.
So soon, the structure make many things packed:
– the revelation the secretary was found dead.
(for now we just have information “he lost his ally”)
AND
– the secretaryMr Yoo as ally in the dungeon.
Now the geek say the quest is impossible alone. Optimal number is 4 players.
@SD, the music choices have been good for SJJ shows. They really support the action and the emotion that’s to go with it. Except the love song that makes me cringe!!!
@WE, yes, the bad news piles up for HJ who came just to watch the game.
Now she’s in the office with Park and has to listen to Spanish for Park to interpret and translate the sad news of Seo’s death.
This guy put pressure on Hee Juu. Hey your boyfriend is just mad and without a job now.
Poor CEO, so many things altogether. Prof Cha, HJ’s visit, JW’s will and throwing him the burden to decide whether to shut the server. But CEO mentions that JW claims that the problem lies with their lens and the game. The lens… why is it a problem?
@SD you pay lots of attention to sounds.
Another parallel… while HJ gets to hear of Sec Seo’s death, JW is in the dungeon and about to get confirmation that Seo is only an NPC… ie he has to be dead like NPC HS in order to appear with arrows stuck in him and still be fighting, expressionless.
The phone call from spain.
THen she has to take the call, and…
A cut. Next scene. (so we don’t have the answer right now). ahaha. Kind of mini cliffhanger.
Back in the catacomb, the fight is hard.
The fighting is so one-sided. JW probably has no chance to win. Alone is near impossible.
What is more scary than a zombi?
A zombi with graphic glitchs.
JW is shocked that his ally is really just an NPC and not his friend.
That shock made him almost give up the quest in this episode.
@GB. The church and religious/Christian imagery plays a huge role in this film, even, I think, a pivotal role at the end.
Your ally as appeared. BUT: as an NPC.
Then CUT and END of the phone call!!
^^
CUT and comeback in the catacomb for the full emotion.
Some dramatic echos while he watches crying.
THE scene.
@SD, yes the symbol of the church and some Christian images is strong. I suppose SJJ is making a statement about where JW was looking for ‘salvation’, and how he was looking in the wrong place, among other things.
CEO cries, a bit half mad because he doesn’t want to believe all this is true and there is a zombi in the game.
“Maybe boyfriend” – I was on the point to leave.
But these guys are ALWAYS “on the point to leave” but never leaves. ^^
@WE, the cut and confirmation of death with Park’s reaction, then Yang Ju’s reaction, then later the return to the dungeon… more powerful.
In between we have HJ going home and ignoring the almost boyfriend and family LOL. Everything in reality is in limbo and to be ignored, only the game is real!
The actor, Lee Seung Joon, does a really good job in the scene where his character is explaining the quest to HJ. His words are all positive, optimistic, pollyanish, and his voice is shaking. Even we, the viewers, know that he is not telling the truth and we understand that HJ will know that also.
He was haunted with his enemy and now too with his ally. Hard on his moral.
And we end off with poor JW still having to encounter more enemies on his own.
Then the light fills the tunnel. He’s been in the dark for too long, but does he really see the light?
@GB. Yes!! So I’m not able to see clearly just now. But maybe, if I do one more revision in my script, maybe I’ll find some scenes to cut like that. I remember I did it sometimes. The thing is “each time a scene could have a suspens elements, it’s worth to think: Can I do that better and cut?”.
That’s a good cliff hanger ending!
LOL the previews gives us Hee Ju as the almost girlfriend of JW. I hope we’ve seen about the last of the almost boyfriend!
I am way behind. JW is overwhelmed by glitchy zombies.
I feel so tired watching those dead corpses and poor JW has to keep slaying them.
@SD, @FF, @WE,
Has everyone finished watching? So we’re still on for the next 2 Saturdays according to schedule.
I’m finding this show more enjoyable this time around.
Thanks for the fun rewatch!
@SD @FF, Yes, you’re almost at the end.
I felt the game was really so exhausting. I don’t think I’d like to play it. Besides killing and going on difficult quests to do more killing, there’s nothing else that it offers. I’d prefer to improve my other skills besides slashing and shooting skills.
We are only at episode 10 another 6 more episodes of slaying? Luckily I have company to watch together.
See ya next week.
And only when JW is truly overwhelmed does his ally appear. Such a poignant scene. JW first believes that Sec Seo is alive. Then he sees the arrows and the ally’s deadened face, so very different from Sec Seo’s usual demeanor.
See you @FF, @SD and @WE!
@SD, ‘meeting’ dead NPC Seo is so heart-breaking!
@WE, the editing in the scenes where we learn about Sec Seo’s death is near perfect. We know and JW knows, just before it is confirmed in the scene at Grenada station, and then we are back in the midst of JW knowing and his pain and sorrow.
@SD. It’s not editing, it’s in the screenplay. 😉
See you all for next episode, have a good week!!
@WE, @feife, @GB, finally done. The ending with the light in the tunnel is also a nice touch, visually and metaphorically. I did not catch the latter aspect the first time I watched it. @feifei, I actually am bad at listening to the music and the auditory aspects, I am very much a visual person. It is only on the rewatches that I have enough extra attention to notice the auditory. For example, I realized this time that as JW is realizing that his Sec Seo is dead, all the sounds in the dungeon are echoed; JW’s breath, the sounds of feet scrapping on the floor, the swords; all sounds have this unreal, slowed down quality. As the action slows down (the way it would in real life), the sound slows down.
I catch a lot more on the rewatches. See you all next week!
@WE, SJJ is so good! I am now a fan!
@GB and SD I’m particularly interested in the religious aspects…the themes of salvation and redemption. So two people who strongly figured in JW’s life have been killed in the game (which isa metaphor for JW’s life, perhaps?) return to game and force various emotional responses from JW. These two characters by reappearing and interacting with him enable JW to move toward the light (become enlightened.)
Maybe because it’s Lent and I am finally participating in my very first bible study group, salvation and redemption are more on my mind.
Anyway, enjoy reading all of the comments here… I learn a lot.
Belated Happy St. Patrick’s Day☘️
Hi @Lootie Lyn! It’s good to know that you’ve been by to read our comments. A lot more is noticed when we’re watching together.
Yes, the subtle theme of redemption in the course of the exciting, violent game, does tend to get overlooked.
Congratulations on experiencing your first bible study! No better time than Lent! See you around!