Bitch Talk: On KDramas That Didn’t Age Well

These kdramas and Korean movies aged poorly. I’m not talking merely about their visual effects, but the plot, content, message, and/or actors involved in the project have become unacceptable over time.

That’s why Shakespeare rules. Even after four centuries, the Bard’s works endure because his insight into our human existence is timeless, universal, and relevant. When I pour over a kdrama and study its themes and characters, I do it in the hope of finding a spark of Shakespeare in it. I’m searching for the screenwriter’s reflections on life. I want a writer who has acquired enough pearls of wisdom to string together into a drama that engages my mind and soul.

Ultimately, I judge favorably a kdrama that has enriched my understanding of the world. I can’t tolerate writers who write junk because a) they subject me to mental pollution and b) they waste my time. Those are cardinal offenses in my book.

Here’s my incomplete list. I’ll add when I remember more.

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1. “Boys Over Flowers” (2009)

Starring Lee MinHo, Goo HyeSun, Kim HyunJoong, Kim Bum, and Kim Joon.

Boys Over Flowers - Series - Where To Watch

Tell me you know nothing about toxic masculinity without telling me you know nothing about toxic masculinity.

And please don’t give me those, “B-b-but he was redeemed” and “Love conquers all” excuses. He needs to go to therapy.

Note: It doesn’t help too that the female lead is psycho. The way her marriage disintegrated in public has only led me to believe that in real life, she’s as toxic as the male lead in the drama. And that Kim HyunJoong? Trash.

2. “My Sassy Girl” (2001)

Starring Cha TaeHyun and Jun JiHyun

My Sassy Girl | Rotten Tomatoes

Instead of toxic masculinity, this is about toxic feminism. I wrote about this before.

I’m a minority. I’m one of the few viewers who disliked the movie “My Sassy Girl” from the minute the female lead (played by Jun Jihyun) vomited on the poor elderly man on the train. But I forced myself to endure the next two hours to see what the hoopla about this blockbuster was all about.

There were certainly memorable romantic scenes. But they weren’t enough to counteract and justify the abusive relationship between GyunWoo (GW) and the nameless sassy girl.

Ha! Her name was never revealed in the movie although the movie title was about her. It. Was. All. About. Her. But shhhhh… her name can’t be uttered like that He Who Must Not Be Named in Harry Potter. In my opinion, the psychology behind her namelessness is to reinforce the fear factor. Not only was she a stranger to him the entire time, but she was a scary and brutal stranger.

It was clear to me that the screenwriter was trying to justify the psychopathic relationship as a *necessary* bloodletting. The sassy girl’s emotional and physical torture of GW was justified because:

a) she was suffering from a survivor’s guilt that MUST BE assuage
b) she was testing to see if GW was as good and noble and loving as her dead boyfriend.

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That’s how this screenwriter tried to rationalize the female lead’s psychopathic behavior. Her unfinished grieving was the reason for her despicable actions.

Gosh! I never thought “sassy” is the new word for “brutal.”

For me, had the roles were reversed, and Chae TaeHyun’s character had been the one acting sassy (or “tsundere”) instead of Jun Ji-hyun’s character, the plot would’ve been easily recognizable for what it was: abuse. But because the scapegoat in the movie was a good-natured male bumpkin, the sassy girl’s abusive and unfunny actions were excused as comedic… and feminist.

🤦‍♀️ See that stupid writer’s sexist logic? An abusive female isn’t really abusive because heyyyy! her actions are empowering and liberating.

Sure, the Apologists and Enablists could scream that the screenwriter has the “creative license” to write whatever she wants.

My reaction:

Rolling Eyes Eye Roll GIF

Yeaaaaah, right. If you can produce the show yourself, with your own money, for your target audience, in your own country, in your own imaginary universe, then by all you means, exercise your creative license.

But I question the sanity of anybody claiming to adore this movie. Like the boy in the fable “The Emperor’s New Clothes.”

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3. “My Little Bride” (2004)

Starring Kim RaeWon (did you read my post on 2024 Leading Actors?) and Moon GeunYoung

My Little Bride (2004) - IMDb

One word: grooming.

4. “She Was Pretty” (2015)

Starring Hwang JungEum, Park SeoJoon and Choi SiWon

She Was Pretty (TV Series 2015) - IMDb

I believe the drama gods are listening to me. When I called out the unacceptable maltreatment of the junior member by the male boss (played by Park SeoJoon), the fangirls howled in protest. I pointed out that they were normalizing such hostile and toxic behavior in the workplace because they were blinded by the handsomeness of PSJ.

Nowadays, we no longer see male leads act as bosses who publicly berate and humiliate their female underlings. Nowadays, the “bad boss” behavior is relegated to villains only. (Check out “Marry My Husband.”) Nowadays, the hero as a savage alpha male is frowned upon. I say it’s about time.

5. “Playful Kiss” (2010)

Starring Jung SoMin and Kim HyunJoong (see “Boys Over Flowers”)

Playful Kiss - Wikipedia

Another toxic male.

As soon as I saw Baek SungJo’s callous behavior when Oh Hani delivered him the love letter, he was in the doghouse. Even the ending was a disappointment. He didn’t grovel enough.

What really annoyed with me this drama was the infantilization of the heroine. The ending came just when she was on the cusp of growing up and maturing.

But I blamed it on the original source, a Japanese manga called “Itazura Na Kiss” and the Japanese’s penchant for anything “kawaii” (or cute). They think it’s fashionable to dress up, look, speak, and act cute. Ugh! I’m just appalled by the feigned cuteness and naivety.

6. “SungKyungKwan Scandal” (2010)

Starring Park MinYoung, Song JoongKi, Yoo AhIn and Park Yoochun

Sungkyunkwan Scandal | Korea | Drama | Watch with English Subtitles & More ✔️

I can’t blame the writer for this one.

This kdrama was ruined for me by the real-life scandals of the leading men, namely, Park Yoochun and Yoo AhIn. Just say no to drugs, danggit!

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What’s on your list?

 

 

7 Comments On “Bitch Talk: On KDramas That Didn’t Age Well”

  1. In 2020, after a 6 year hiatus from watching dramas, I decided to get back in the groove by watching some of my old favorites. That was a mistake. Only a couple of Kdramas held up – Healer and Queen In-hyun’s Man. Even though they felt a bit dated, I still adored the characters and loved the stories.

    Coffee Prince did not hold up for me, in spite of my love for Gong Yu. In fact, I found myself strongly disliking any time any of the secondary characters were on my screen, especially the sister, the second lead couple, and the older coffee shop manager. And the coffee shop “princes” (except for Kim Jae Wook’s character) got on my nerves with their behavior. By the end of the drama I was disappointed and disillusioned.

    Secret Garden was the other big disappointment. I ate it up back in the day, even though the ML was problematic and his mother was horrible. I went into my 2020 rewatch expecting to dislike the ML and his mother even more than before, but actually found that I disliked the FL just as much. I still crack up over Big Bang’s parody, though.

    I had planned to rewatch quite a few more dramas, but after these two rewatches crashed and burned, I gave up because I was afraid of marring my fond memories of my early drama watching years.

    I started watching Jdramas in 2008, before discovering Kdramas (in 2010), and cut my teeth on Mei-chan no Shitsuji, Hana Kimi, Kimi wa Petto, Hana Yori Dango, and Pride. I rewatched Mei-chan and Hana Kimi in 2020 and still loved their OTT ridiculousness. I also rewatched Pride and Kimi wa Petto. Not sure if it’s the Queen soundtrack or the hockey or if I’m just a sucker for Kimura Takuya, but I still enjoyed Pride. Kimi wa Petto remains a favorite. I did go on to watch the KWP remake, but I vastly prefer the Sumire from the original. She makes the remake Sumire look pathetic.

    I still kinda want to rewatch Hana Yori Dango because I love me some Oguri Shun and Matsumoto Jun. And I think Inoue Mao was the best Makino Tsukushi out of every version of the drama I’ve seen. I loved her.

    Because I loved HYD so much back then, I was hesitant to watch Boys Over Flowers because I didn’t think it could possibly be as good. I ended up binging BOF in a day and a half. However, although the drama was like crack at the time and I discovered Lee Min Ho and Kim Bum and I’m not sorry one bit, I will never watch BOF again. Why? Not because of the plot, or the toxic mother, or the toxic ML….it’s because I couldn’t stand the FL. Everything about her annoyed me, from her facial expressions to the way she talked. She came across bratty at times compared to Inoue Mao.

    I would later watch the original TW Meteor Garden because I had already discovered Vaness Wu (Autumn’s Concerto) and Vic Zhou (Mars). It was difficult to power through at times, but I was a completist back then. I’m currently watching the 2018 Meteor Garden remake, mainly because Dylan Wang and I want to see how much has been changed from the original story.

    Speaking of Vaness Wu and Vic Zhou…I did rewatch Autumn’s Concerto and Mars in 2020. AC was okay upon rewatch, but I FF a lot . Mars remains in my top five dramas of all time in spite of its flaws.

    I think I missed the mark on the prompt, because I ended up talking more about the dramas that held up (IMO) more than dramas that didn’t lol. SorryNotSorry.

  2. In regards to your list above, I never watched My Sassy Girl, but I did watch all of the others. I’ve already shared about BOF. I didn’t care for MLB back then either.

    I watched Playful Kiss and the original Jdrama Itazura na Kiss because they always showed up in peoples’ favorite drama lists. I disliked both of them for the reasons you mentioned above.

    She Was Pretty and SKK Scandal were on my 2020 rewatch list but thankfully I stopped that train before I got to them.

  3. Maybe it’s because I started watching kdramas later so I was watching many of these after they aired , so I don’t know if it is they didn’t age well or they were just bad period.
    She Was Pretty was pretty awful! Agree 💯. The dynamic was terrible.
    Similarly – Clean with Passion (what an off putting construct and couple)
    Oh My Venus – ugh!
    Another Ms. Oh – ML was terrible to FL
    Chinese drama My Boss and Me – seemed like a romance between an adult man and a child the power dynamic and personalities were so unbalanced.

  4. I agree about Playful Kiss. I have not watched Secret Garden or Boys Over Flowers, so I don’t have an opinion. But I am not really interested anyway.

  5. Something in the Rain was one of the first Kdramas I watched. Even back then, the FL bothered me because she had so much trouble asserting herself. When I tried to do a rewatch a few years later, I had zero tolerance for her wishy-washiness. I dropped the rewatch and will never look back. The problem isn’t with the actors and their performances, but with the script.

  6. @PM3, I knew I liked you when you mentioned you did not like BOF and your reasons why! And you parodied that title for BOD! 😁
    I also agree on #2! That actually soured me on that actress and her other dramas. #6 I watched this and Yoo Ah In caught my attention. I’m sad on the drug news about him.
    The rest I did not watch.

  7. Old American Lady (OAL)

    I liked She Was Pretty because it struck a chord with me. As I’ve said before, beauty is in the eyes of the beholder. I like that in the end she accepted her looks. I also liked the role reversal.The person I actually liked best in this drama was Choi Siwon(liked him in Love is For Suckers too). As they say in my city-so sue me. I am not a Lee Min Ho fan. Is it me or do I just find him wooden. So BOF didn’t do anything for me. I like the type of drama that somehow pokes fun at the entertainment industry like The Greatest Love. I like wAtching Gong Hyo Jin in almost anything. The Producers was a hoot. And Camelias was such a a nice slice of life drama. Kang Ha Neul is also a favorite. I am loving Marry My Husband right now. I am someone who enjoys a good revenge drama-because they are very unlike me and appeal to a part of me that I would never act out.i believe in having a moral compass and in the golden rule. I also have left things up to karma and have found that mine has been pretty good. I made it to old age. For me, the great pleasure of Asian dramas and K Dramas in particular is how immersive they are. They are like a fun vacation. And I have discovered all of these great actors. Thank you @packmule3 for giving us this great space to ruminate over this great new world(as opposed to so much of American content that boil down to various procedurals ripped from whatever headline is out there&U’ll go with the real news. I’ll also say they are a great way to learn the customs and etiquette of other countries. If I ever make it to S. Korea I don’t think I_d be like a bull in a China shop. And because I am old I won’t mind being referred to as ahjumma.

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