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LOL @pkml3. I thought you might have watched Pinocchio before, but just didn’t bother to write about it then. 😆

I hope our watched shows align a bit more!!!

@Pm3, oh you want do it seriously. But you can relax too! I watched in 2018, and I know I would need to rewatch before the rewatch party. But I didn’t have time. So it’s like I watch for the first time, almost. I’m even stuck at Ep3 of “what happened in Bali”, my current kdrama. No progress since last week. T T

This week I did something I was thinking during months, but never had time or solution. There is only one episode of W2 that the only two readers giving me comments said for sure that the episode wasn’t good (Episode 15). But the reasons were unclear and I knew they maybe missed the real reason. For example, a reader points at background scenes, but the scenes were good as standalone (I mean, you can enjoy them, even if you know nothing about the drama). So, deleting them could cause more harm, when there are needed later, or developping characters.

There were two montages unclear, kind of thing you get tired when reading it. I was thinking it was a problem amplifying a lot the disappointement, kind of “I’m fed up”. I fixed the small montage, and just destroyed the big one, putting away some of the content in a linear way, deleting a bit, and I had to put some as first scene of episode. Then I got the “EUREKA” moment, understanding fully why the episode didn’t work. It wasn’t the scenes, it was the lack of direction and the fact it didn’t fullfill audience expectation.

It’s a risky episode where there is only one dramatic question at this stage of the drama (while there are often more than one most of the time). So the story was hanging by a thread, and the episode didn’t adress that first, frustrating audience. It adresses it, but only later in the episode, far too late, giving the feeling we first get scenes without connexion and without knowing where we go. The problem was even worst, after a previous episode where a large part is background (second half is “bottle” episode). So I needed to reconnect fast and first about what the audience care about.

As I was working on that, I also made few pictures (Ep 14 to 27 lack pictures) and did this wonderfull one, becoming almost a fashion designer! 😅
https://w4worlds.fr/images/Ep15/IMG_15_MiRaStreet.jpg
I couldn’t find the right pictures on internet, because gothic outfits are often too fantaisist when I wanted a feeling of “gothic but with very high class”, expensive and a bit provocative. So I had to create that in several steps, element by element.

I started W2 long before “ok not to be ok”, and I said here (you probably don’t remember) that FL of ONTBO had a little something of my character, first they are both writing stories (but mine is mostly a good artist at drawing). However, the design feels really different in the end (and I had the black lipstick in my mind from the start), and probably there isn’t a female character looking like that in any drama. Plus, personnalities are different, ONTBO FL is quite cold, what isn’t the case of my character. Seo Yea-ji couldn’t play the role, but here it’s Kim Tae Hee, and it’s perfect!

Hi @IB, no need to apologise … I was wondering if you were called away or were ill, or whether I’d missed your message saying that you’d be busy. But it’s all good. I saw that you were commenting this week so I knew you were okay.

If I disappear it will be because I fell asleep!!! Heheheh!

Poor dear! I trust all’s well now!!

We ended last week when IH is devastated to discover that the mother she’d idolised had been a heartless and cruel person to DP, whom she cared about. I pity IH,… just as she was so hopeful about becoming a bit closer to her mum…

Hi @WE, just finished rewatch of 10!

I really like the way it’s been set up so that while DP is agonising over the atrocities his brother likely committed and over investigating and revealing this like a good reporter/citizen, … IH is devastated by the inhumanity of her mother.

They can actually share in and understand each other’s agony.

His long story was resumed by a two lines voice-over. 😀
Wooh! we didn’t have the full recap live. LOL.

Poor girl can’t even keep a secret because she’s a pinocchio. I like DP’s way of getting her dad and grandpa to not ask her anything.

Then dad sees them walking hand-in-hand but also that IH looks happy to be with DP.

Damn, I’m already late.
At the moment DP pretend she has period of the month.

@WE, yes Grandpa has been taking the savings from DP’s piggy banks without permission and spending it. That’s still theft, although he did use the money to buy stuff for DP. But then he also took more money to get the TV for himself.

DP’s captain tells DP some hard truths. Hiding the truth now is only temporary. The truth will out and in the mean time he’d be stressed out watching over what he’s hiding. But as a reporter he has to be able to report the truth whether he likes it or not.

Now Yoo Rae is always good for some cringey laughs. Stethoscope to the door at the cop shop, and DP/HM knows the cops are onto hias brother. But then, to get bro’s contact info, YR tries to BRIBE DP with a date! (toe of foot swirls back!) Or a ‘selca’!

The father talk about secrets, and Grandpa thinks it’s about his thefts, LOOOOL!!

I like the tip line scene where IH is so frustrated that she cannot express herself clearly to her Mom. So later when she stands up to her in the lecture it feels like apersonal triumph.

Song Cha Ok puts herself above all as if she’s never in the wrong. IH is so frustrated. I agree that when she is able to cut her mum down to size in front of the public in the lecture, it feels so satisfying.

@IB LOL here’s the comedy with IH’s dad’s crazy imagination. One time he fantisized that DP gave IH a toast/bread kiss and now he imagines Bum Jo’s mum getting nasty – and the music playing in this scene is from ‘I Hear Your Voice’ LOLOL. As if the Badger is going to commit a crime.

Now we have the IH father and DP scene over an ice dessert. DP has to lie. IH had to tell her dad that she likes DP since she cannot lie without being found out.

The plan of the father for a rich gender is sinking, as IH told him she loves DP, and she can’t lie. HAHA!!

What I thought was funny about the ice cream scene was that IH’s Dad is so upset that he slurps the melted ice cream from his bowl as if he is finishing a bowl of noodles!

After she has to confess to her dad on the phone and is blathering on about how she will meet him the next day and explain…DP does a nice use of an office chair — he turns her around and pulls her chair over to meet his. It is an alternative to holding her arms or hands.

I missed the award on JM’s desk at the end of HP/DM’s voiceover first time around.

@WE so many cars and he wants to select the most eye-catching red one to use for shadowing Jae Myung.

The murderer is a celebrity with his own pesky fans. He has given away his dog earlier, I think, so we know he is not coming back (from murdering IH or her Mom).

We have the scene where IH cuts her mum down to size using DP’s words. It seems to be the knowledge and endurance of DP that gives her the courage.

It’s such a great contrast that the bosses are hiding away in the corner, not daring to tell Song Cha Ok what she is to her face but IH stands up in front of the audience to tell her mum off.

@GB, this journalist is dumb, or addict to high class living style (that he can’t live in his ordinary days).

@WE are you referring to rich boy Bum Jo as the dumb journalist?

They are following the wrong guy. The killer is at the lecture!

@WE yes, bad and sensational news gets more audience than normal news.

‘Pare. vs. ‘grate’? I love how technical verbs (esp. from cooking) are used in different languages. Differently because their semantic fields vary.
‘Pare’ must be a translators distant take on ‘cut down to size’?

Oh heck, I have to get out of the habit of thinking about subtitles, since we probably have different ones. Apologies you two.

A private pleasure, then.

Yoo-Rae is no match for the awesome bad mother!! 😀
As I was reading tips about screenplay, there is something making audience like characters (even when they are bad): competence, people talentuous (in their job or anything). And I must admit, even if we know the mother as something unlikeable, I still like her in some way.

Yes, DP is revealed to his Hyungnim.

Great, really great cliffhanger (we are at 10, so not a paired episode). Halfway thru?

How insulting “you are the same ‘scandal’ journalist than 13 years ago”. Shit! IH words hurt like hell, even more when coming from a Pinochio, and even more when daughter to mother. GOSH.

@WE, yes that talk back to her mother in public was a powerful scene! We compare that to the pathetic Yoon Yoo Rae who hid her comments under coughs and who had no fact or impact in her question to Song Cha Ok… also compare/contrast her open attack to how the 4 men were hiding in the background. Sooo good.

@IB thanks… I see. Well that was a pathetic bit of paring anyone!

@WE, I don’t like the character of Song Cha Ok at all.

Her competence cannot redeem her from her neglect and abandonment of her family, of putting her success / getting a sensational story above responsible investigation before reporting, editing the interview to skew the impression of the viewers to dislike Fireman Ki even more. She should really be held responsible for the hatred Ki’s wife faced.

@GB, I don’t remember how the situation progress about the mother, but anything I could see already makes me curious.
Can she becomes a better mother (and better journalist too)??

That last was to @WE, but yes @GB, you are morally correct. My impulse is to call her a murderer at secondhand. She has no excuses to give, and doesnt want to apologize, either.

The brother is a real murderer, of 3 people so far. We see him as a man who was driven by hatred and misfortune to do the deed. He made his decisions alone w/o the benefit of family to ground him.

Family relations trump most crimes in kdrama, for lots of reasons big and small.

See you next week IF, and GB too !!!

good god. I just looked up “Happy Trails”. That was from The Roy Rodgers Show, an iconic bit of sentimental trash, already mocked within days of its first showing.