Just notes for myself and whoever’s just starting this series.
The Chinese family tree is complicated when compared to the Western family tree. In English, the parents of our mother/ father are simply called grandparents. The siblings of our mother/father are called aunts or uncles. And the children of our aunt(s)/uncle(s) are called cousins. We only mind the gender and generation of the individual.
In comparison, the Chinese family tree takes into consideration, not only the gender and generation, but also the paternal/maternal lineage, birth order, and wife/concubine parentage. Would it be considered microaggression if a lady is addressed to as “Hey, Bro”? 😂
Shen family tree
Only JiaLan survives and she was the oldest daughter of the oldest son of the Shen patriarch. New name: LanXiang.
Note that as the story progresses, there’s focus on the names/titles women acquire (or lose) as their status in life changes. It’s a social commentary on how easily women can lose their identity, and as consequence, their sense of self in the vagaries of life.
Lin family tree
Grandpa and Grandma Lin. She’s been invisible as of Episode 20 (I guess that’s a commentary on the women of her generation??) She’s called the “Old Madam”.
JinQi’s father is the eldest son or “first branch”. Name: Lin Chang Zhe. JinQi and his father don’t get along.
JinQi’s uncle is the younger son or “second branch”. Name: Lin Sui Yun?? He’s more sensible than his older brother. He sides with JinQi.
These brothers married.
JinQi’s mother is the First Madam since she’s married to the first branch/son. Her name: Madam Qin.
JinQi’s aunt is the Second Madam since she’s married to the second branch/son. Her name: Madam Wang. She’s also called “Second Aunt” which to me was confusing because, to me, a second aunt implies that there’s another aunt somewhere. Lol.
JinQi’s father has a concubine, too. She was poisoned too by Du Cirque in Episode 15.
These brothers also produced sons and daughters.
Let’s go over the sons first (because I’m patriarchal that way. Ha!).
1. JinQi (aka Feng Tai) is the first-born son of the first-born son. His mother is the First Madam, Mrs. Qin. So he’s very special.
After JinQi comes 3 more sons. Notice that they all have “Jin” as their first name.
2. JinLan is the second-born son of JinQi’s father. But his mother is merely a concubine. In English, he would be known simply as JinQi’s half-brother. But in this Chinese drama, he’s called “Second Brother.” He looks anemic. He may have a heart ailment or something.
3. JinQao is the first-born son of the Second Madam/Madam Wang. But because of his birth order, he’s the “Third Brother”. In English, he’s simply JinQi’s cousin. He was the one whose enthusiasm JinQi needed to rein in a bit during the festivities of the “Festival of Man”.
4. JinCen is the second-born of the Second Madam/Madam Wang. He’s called “Fourth Brother”. He’s the mischievous boy with the arrow, hiding up in the tree. He’s another cousin of JinQi.
Now for the daughters. They have “Xiu” as their first name.
1. The “First Daughter”??? As of Episode 20, she hasn’t surfaced yet. Maybe later.
2. XiuWan is the first-born daughter of the Second Madam/Madam Wang. She’s the “Second Daughter”. In English, we know her as JinQi’s cousin. She’s spoiled and headstrong and almost lost her virginity to that two-faced Du Zheng. I think the subs sometimes identify her as the “Second Young Lady” of the Lin family.
3. XiuRu is the daughter of the concubine of JinQi’s father. JinQi is her half-brother; JinLan is her brother. She’s the “Third Daughter”. She’s quiet as a mouse, but sneaky as a cat.
4. XiuShu is the only daughter of the First Madam/Madam Qin. JinQi is her brother. She’s the “Fourth Daughter”. The subs sometimes identify her as the “Fourth Young Lady” of the Lin family. IIRC, she has peach allergies (like LanXiang’s cousin) so the doctor misdiagnosed her rashes. She was actually poisoned by Du CuiQue.
I wish somebody had told me all this when I was beginning Episode 10.
So who are the parents off the invisible “First Daughter?”
I am on Episode 7 and was just thinking how easy it had been to follow who was who. Now I have to brace myself for more characters with more agendas to complicate the life of Lan Xiang. Thank you for the heads up!
@Snowflower, I don’t know who the parents are of the “First Daughter”. It will probably be revealed later when she makes her debut.
But I doubt it’s one of the madams. IIRC, Madam Qin said that she had one son and one daughter. And Madam Wang spoils the Second Daughter so. If she had another daughter, I’m sure she would have worried about her, constantly talked about her, and so on, even if the daughter is temporarily out of sight.
So perhaps a concubine’s daughter and JinQi’s father? JQ’s father seems to be the foolish/lecherous one to get embroiled with women.
Later on during chaotic mements in the capitol, the henchmen of Jin Qi seem to give the title Lady to high-ranking maidservants. I find it very misleading.
This is so helpful–I think at some point I stopped trying to know how anyone was related 😂
Names that have Q, X, Y, and Z in them are my blind spot. I ignore them unless they’re the main leads’ names. Since many Chinese names in these cdramas have these letters, I just wait until something eventful happens to the characters before committing their names to memory. Otherwise, I’m just wasting my mental bandwidth. 🙂
My husband comes from a Chinese family, and is one of nine siblings. They all share one syllable of their two-syllable given names. Before I had my two children, my father-in-law gave me a list of possible Chinese names, male and female, all of which included a shared syllable. I thought that shared syllable would be particular to my husband’s and my children, but I learned that all in my daughters’ generation–they and their cousins–had names suggested with the same shared syllable. It’s a generational name. Some of our relatives chose to distinguish between male and female children by using different generational names based on gender, as the Lin family did in Against the Current.
Watching dramas, not only must we keep family lines straight, but people have multiple names (given, courtesy, even artistic per Mr. Lu), and in addition often are designated by role rather than name. I’ve heard mothers in Kdramas lament because once they have children, they’re called So-and-so’s mother. My mother-in-law couldn’t remember her own mother’s name (having been apart from each other since my mother-in-law was a child), because she was called So-and-so’s wife.
Oh, wow, @Welmaris! So did you end up using one syllable for your children’s name?
Before my son was born, it was suggested that I named him after his grandfather, and I put my foot down right away. I wasn’t going to give him a mouthful of names, only for him to be called “Trip” during Thanksgiving get-togethers because he’d be the third (or III).
Trip = triple
I can imagine though if a child gets this generational suffix (Jr, III, IV, etc) nowadays, some culturally illiterate person could pronounce his name like this:
Julius Anthony III as “Julius Anthony one one one” or
Julius Anthony IV as “Julius Anthony ivy”
Lol.
On a different note, I was looking on Youtube for an explanation for the different given names a Chinese person may have when this person’s YT shorts popped up. She was naming the bizarre Chinese translations of a few countries.
I thought she was funny until she started pronouncing the word “Orchid” as “or-chid” with a “ch” like in “cheese” and “chin”. Ugh!
https://youtube.com/shorts/kWdAsbWr9aE?si=QCsXjCHlKMb2JOe5
As I’ve been writing about orchids lately, I thought I should make a public service announcement.
BODers,
Orchid is pronounced “or-kid” not “or-chid”. If you want a Boston accent, you can also drop the “r” and say “ahw-kid.”
🙂
I am on Episode 10. JQ talks with his grandfather about the upcoming festival and his aunt worrying about her daughter. He mentioned how his “eldest younger sister” got married off a couple of years back when Lin family barely escaped the fate of the When family. Is she the “First Daughter”? Does she make an appearance later on. It seems she was JQ’s full sister.