Bo-ra! Deborah: Eps 1 to 6 Open Thread

Updated 5/4/2023. A new thread for Eps 7 & 8 is open for discussion.

Bora! Debora: Eps 7 & 8 Open Thread

🌸🌸🌸🌸🌸🌸🌸🌸🌸🌸🌸🌸🌸🌸🌸🌸🌸🌸🌸🌸

I’m opening this thread for those who are following this romcom. For those in the US, this drama is free with your Amazon Prime. It’s called “True to Love” on Amazon.

Thanks to @FGB4877 for reminding me of this kdrama.

Yoo Inna, the lead actress, isn’t my type because of her overripe aegyo, but she seems to have toned down her cutesy act. She plays a famous dating coach and romance writer who’s forced to work with an editor on her latest book. The editor is played by actor Yoon HyunMin. He’s been typecast as the grumpy, petty, uncooperative male, and he isn’t any different here.

#true to love from not enough dramasource: deokmis’ tumblr

I don’t know what to expect from this kdrama. Perhaps a peek into the dating culture/norms/standards of young people nowadays, especially those living in South Korea.

Watch out for spoilers. I believe 6 episodes are already out. It would be helpful if you indicate the episode number at the top of your post. This way, we’ll know what episode you’re referring to. Thanks.

Let’s enjoy the show.

36 Comments On “Bo-ra! Deborah: Eps 1 to 6 Open Thread”

  1. GrowingBeautifully (GB)

    Thanks @pkml3… I’m bored out of my mind by prep for audit. Maybe an out-of-the-blue rom-com that I had no intention of watching might alleviate the 😩 😣 😉.

    @Lootie-Lyn… you were asking for rom-com suggestions? I have not watched this yet. I’ll try 1 Episode…

  2. Old American Lady (OAL)

    Hi @packmule3 and @Lootie Lyn, I happened upon this drama and have watched through episode 6. I actually am enjoying it. The dating coach is dumped so embarrassment ensues. Spoiler -she blows up in a public appearance further testing her credibility. She is supposed to be signed to a book deal by the publisher and the ML but this is complicated by her meltdown. That’s the set up. The ML keeps rescuing her mainly by covering her with his suit jacket. I’m in. I want to see how she extricated herself from her embarrassing situations and how the romance plays out. I don’t care if ity one big cliche. Sometimes all I need is the familiar.

    I am also watching Dr. Cha and The Good Bad Mother, both terrific choices in their own way.

  3. GrowingBeautifully (GB)

    Hi @OAL, thanks for your quick review. I’m glad to know that you’re watching this show. Your views will balance out mine because I only watched the first episode and have a cynical view.

    EPISODE 1 THOUGHTS (WITH SOME SPOILERS)

    I don’t really like our main protagonist (yet) although I don’t mind Yoo In Na as an actress. I do expect her character to become more likable. There is to be a growth arc, I trust. She begins as one who appears pretty shallow. More interested in getting her small, sparkly thing and how she looks in camera, than in giving more solid answers to real questions.

    What qualifications does she have to be considered the ‘expert’? Is she a trained therapist? Has she been counseling couples? Perhaps I’ll find out in the next episode, but her answers give me pause. At most she appears to me to be a mere agony aunt who struck it lucky that her readers/listeners of the radio were easily convinced.

    As far as I can tell, she has no claims to being an expert in romance or dating, except that her 3 books have become bestsellers. She is merely in her thirties, unmarried, and with a boyfriend who has not properly proposed, hence her expertise comes not from experience.

    I find it sad that people can settle for her complacently given relationship ‘advice,’ merely based on the fact that her books were popular. When we hear her speak of relationships, of dating or love, we find that she lacks depth, is rather cavalier in her attitude, and worse, is giving advice based on just her subjective point of view.

    Victims of her advice are none other than the publisher who was supposed to meet her to sign her on, and the radio station staff who wrote in with her real story on dating without a formal naming of the relationship. The issue with THAT relationship as with most, is the lack of communication. A thinks they are dating (been going on for 4 years!), B is not sure!! B expects A to say that they are dating but never asks if they are. The question about the relationship should have been directed by B to A and not to Deborah. Deborah should have given advice closer along those lines instead of dismissing the years of relationship and emotional ties with careless advice.

    There are 6 episodes out… to give show a chance, I’ll watch a few more episodes.

  4. Old American Lady (OAL)

    Hi @GB, your points are well taken but I view Deborah as a creature of YouTube and the blogosphere. These people are considered e x parts just by showing up. Have you watched v the foodies on YouTube. I doubt that any of them had any culinary education. I think of the make-uppeo0le. If you have a gimmick, you’ll get viewers, who in turn monetize you.there are interesting people out there but very few are experts. So Deborah is like some of the advice co,umnists of old or the c aggregators who run a blog called AmI The A..hole where anyone chimes in. It ‘s kind of like the British Mumsnet where the general public comments and suggests. Ths5’s why I view this drama lightly. It’s about how she gets out of her major embarrassing situation with what I think is a little romance. It is definitely not Shakespeare. There is a lot of suspension of disbelief here. I am basically looking for a romp here. If you intend to watch more episodes, just try to look at it lightly. You may enjoy it better.

    8f you want to ditch this, try Dr. Cha. It’s about a middle aged c wife and mother who is returning to work as a medical resident and her family, inc,using her husband a professor at the hospital, who has been cheating on her for years. It’s a lot more realistic.

    No Matter what, if the Bo-ra drama isn’t to your liking, quit it.

  5. Dear OAL, it is always a pleasure to read you!.

    So far the best scene for me is when she ends up eating in the rival chicken store out of spite. Their conversation there sounded kind of honest.

    Also liked her best friend’s husband and her ex’s conversation. I don’t know if it is polite to spoil it by giving the reason why I liked it. If I have to comment something about it is that I think her friend and her husband have reached a new level of understanding and closeness, but I am afraid they don’t recognize it as such.

    And heck I dislike people that are famous not because they made something to further Humanity’s goals (or have a skill that is relevant and they share) but because of gimmicks.

  6. GrowingBeautifully (GB)

    Hi @FGB and @OAL
    Yes, I’m wary of people who are famous for being famous or popular or just because they are in public view, when they haven’t actually contributed something that serves some common good, or use real qualifications that might really help others. Deborah’s gimmick was to cross the line in her advice giving, going for being extremely judgmental to please the ‘fans’. Her advice was given with arrogance and smugness, but without having to take responsibility for shattering relationships.

    EPISODE 2 AND 3 WITH MINOR SPOILERS

    Nevertheless, I’ve watched up to Episode 3 and it’s getting better. I like that more humour is cropping up and that she has to bear the consequences of her ill-conceived, drunken acting out.

    @OAL, no fears about watching or not… I drop shows easily once they annoy me. However I want to watch the arc of the careless Bora. She’s nicer as Bora than Deborah. And even she does not deserve the boyfriend who’s scum. However it does take her down several pegs, makes her realise that it’s easy to dole out advice without deeper consideration, but hard to take it herself, and will likely highlight what real boyfriend material is.

    Actually at this stage, I’d still prefer ML with Yu Ri. Better communication could have mended that breach.

    @FGB, I hope you have time to keep coming back here and leaving your thoughts. It’s been too long! 🙂

  7. Dear @GrowingBeautifully, it is always a pleasure to read you.

    Would like to share a more nuanced vision on the ex-boyfriend. I do NOT like the way he has handled things, that is for sure, but he is wayyy more interesting (so far) than a simple judgement and condemnation would warrant. That said for me to comment on that would be into the spoilers area, so I would like to ask @PM3, you and @OAL to proceed.

  8. Greetings!!
    I’ve only gotten through the first (maybe the second) episode. I agree she is not that likeable at first – but some of her advice does seem spot on although delivered in an over the top fashion.

    I think this drama is smartly written. A couple of scenes that stood out to me – the break up scene between the ML and his GF – it was a really effective scene – the actress did a fine job of communicating her frustration and self-loathing in trying to make the relationship into something it wasn’t/couldn’t be.

    The scene where Bo Ra discovers her boyfriend (played by Chansun) is cheating also stood out. His manipulation in making his cheating her fault was some next level sh$t. For a minute I thought she might fall for it but she saw her own worth and did not. (Chansun is so-good at these polished but not nice boyfriend roles – I have a hard time picturing him letting loose in a band irl)

    The last scene that I enjoyed but wish that it had been more understated was their argument while the garbage men were picking up the trash. I wish that it had been edited so that the viewer could interpret it rather than explicitly referencing the garbage but I thought it was kind of a brilliant backdrop to their epic argument. I need to keep watching – but their relationship does not seem entirely finished given how much they get under each other’s skin.

  9. *Sorry*, would like to ask all of you for permission to spoil.

  10. GrowingBeautifully (GB)

    @FGB, as @packmule3 mentions above, you can just indicate the EPISODE NUMBER that you’re talking about at the top of your post, so that those who have not reached that episode yet will know, and so will not read it and get spoiled. That way we can still post our thoughts without worrying about spoiling it for others.

    Is the ex-bf much in the Episodes 4-6? If so then I’ll watch those quickly. I do not doubt he is or can be interesting, but it was mean of him to turn on Bora and unreasonably blame her for his betrayal and the way he treats her. Victim-blaming, do you think? Plus refusal to take responsibility no matter how many ‘I’m sorrys’ he says? She is at least prepared to share some of the blame but he’s pushing 90+% of the blame onto her, when he’s the obvious ‘perpetrator’.

  11. Old American Lady (OAL)

    Amen to all you’ve said @GB and @FGB. I suspect we’ll be seeing a redemption arc for Deborah but I hope she gets back to Bo-ra. I think it’s funny that the questionable characters and sometimes the rich or priviledged characters have English names .Ike Ryan Gold( as in rich).I like B Ora better. Am interested in finding out her origin story and how she got to be Deborah. Fingers crossed that we get it.

  12. GrowingBeautifully (GB)

    Hi @Good Twin, oh good, you’re watching this too!

    I used to read agony aunt/uncle columns. I did think much of their advice was pretty good (inexperienced though I was). What I liked about their tone was that it was meant to give a more objective perspective to relationship woes, with more than one option for thought or action being offered. It was not to put themselves on a pedestal as a ‘coach’.

    On reflection, we all give advice to friends and family who ask for it. But the difference is in the attitude and what we hope to gain from it.

    EPISODES 1-3

    It’s a hard knock, and a heavy fall from the pedestal for Bora … and mostly delivered by herself upon herself. She could have chosen to drink less, to master her emotions since she had a job to do on stage, etc. She stood on that stage for long moments and made a decision, a bad one. She has now to bear the consequences and grow from them.

    To begin with, it’s others who help her, like the irascible Su Hyeok. But I expect that she will help herself and become ‘stronger’.

    I also liked the scene between Yu Ri and Su Hyeok. I felt so sorry for them and the great irony, that the one time they both decided to be convinced by Deborah’s advice, it backfired for them. Because of that advice, one aimed to take the leap forward, the other to cut her losses… and it was the SAME piece of advice that BOTH of them heard. What a paradox, what irony. On this score, I agree that the writing is smart.

    The garbage truck scene was really a first in kdramas for me. I didn’t know whether to laugh or cringe. Never since the Truck of Doom, has a truck held centre-stage for so long in a kdrama LOL.

    Yes, they were trashing each other and themselves, yes they were treating their relationship like trash. At least the trash in that episode was neatly tied in bags and disposed of properly. But with the unreasonable blame throwing by Ju Wan and Bora’s inability to put her thoughts into words (so different from when she’s on radio!!) it does not look like their relationship will have the same neat resolution for a long time. Once again the communication to bring about a proper end or whatever, is missing. I suppose it will take some time.

    How nice to be able to toss one’s trashy mistakes into the garbage truck of life and have it taken away, never to return to haunt one. 😉 🤪

  13. Old American Lady (OAL)

    Ooh @GB, I love “the garbage truck of life”. It has the possibility of becoming a new trope. Brilliant!

  14. GrowingBeautifully (GB)

    LOL @OAL, If I were a scriptwriter, I’d now include in all my drama scripts a subtle passing of garbage trucks across the screen whenever protagonists put foot in mouth, bark up the wrong tree, make Freudian slips, back the wrong horse LOLOL. Then I’d wait to see if any sharp-eyed viewer comments on the frequent appearances of garbage trucks. 🤣 😇

  15. @GB – I just said what I liked so far – you actually analyzed it! Nicely done! @OAL – agreed. If that garbage truck hasn’t been used before it will be – it was just a perfect metaphor for the bad end to a relationship.

    Looking forward to watching with you all!

  16. *Possible Spoiler of EPISODES 5-6*

    Yes, Bo-Ra’s ex-fiancee tried gaslighting her and for me that is a version of disrespect. Also him not telling her earlier is a way to take her time lightly. He found someone else – a person he has been close his whole life – so in real life Bo-Ra’s chances are alost zero. Those relationships seems to be the strongest and you don’t mess with them unless you are dead serious, that said if they work you will have a companion with an encompassing view of your (and their) life. Truly a gift.

    On the other hand both men’s conversation in the wine room struck me as something very masculine: we assume our women as part of our lives and our way to love is to be constant and steadfast. We may not feel the same butterflies as when getting to know each other, but in a healthy relationship Eros will develop into Philos (friendship) and Agape. That does not negate nor marks the end of attraction, but a deepening of the bond.

    If they were actual people I would be very worried that her friend does not get that what she considers as her husband does not liking her anymore is simply that beautiful transition. Using Eros as a foundational rock does not bid well for stability in any relationship.

    In some way both her friend’s wife and her ex have a similar experience, but some important difference is that the husband teases his wife as he considers her a good friend and feels comfortable with and around her… he does not only desire his wife but celebrates life with her, dad jokes included. He knows her yet I see her shaking his beliefs later in the show’s run. Being comfortable with each other is OK, but taking anyone for granted is asking for trouble.

    On the other hand when we see Bo-Ra’s memories of her ex all we see are the swooning gestures, not moments of true connection. When he breaks her heart again he struggles not to be defeated by his false compassion and we see him very troubled. He tries to be cruel in order to be kind.

    And we see Bo-Ra at the beginning fixated on her ex’s status and the outer drappings of marriage rather than in its substance. Her Hubris leads to her downfall.

    Should watch the scene in Dad’s Chicken to remember properly why I liked it so much.

  17. BTW @GB, loved your “Garbage Truck of Life” analysis. It was not only fun but also pertinent. For some reason it made me remember the last song at the very end of Monty Phyton’s “Life of Brian” 😀

    That said, even if I do NOT like the way her ex-boyfriend ended up things with her (and his attempt on gaslighting her was cringe even if Director-nim tried to pass it as funny), I can see a superficial person like Deborah becoming a liability. To be honest if her ex were my friend (and he asked me!!!) I would recommend him to run for the hills and find someone better as he did.

    I am interested in an redemption arc for her that involves her assuming she does not know everything, that she has to be responsible in her advance, and even if she falls for Su Hyeok would love to see her doing her best to reconcile him and Yu Ri.

    Regrettably Deborah up to Episode 6 does not have the deepness nor the correct mindset to become a wife.

  18. Pingback: Bora! Debora: Eps 7 & 8 Open Thread – Bitches Over Dramas

  19. GrowingBeautifully (GB)

    @FGB, it’s so nice to have you on the thread to get the male perspective.

    EPISODES 4-6

    both men’s conversation in the wine room struck me as something very masculine: we assume our women as part of our lives and our way to love is to be constant and steadfast.

    By this I assume you mean that after settling down in the relationship, men do not see the need for marking moments with high romantic gestures, whereas women may still want to experience the “butterflies” through special attentions.

    Might be truer for younger females and those who’ve not had to struggle in keeping family together. Much of the kdrama romantic gesture stuff is a luxury in ‘real life’. Much romance can be garnered from the mere fact that hubby took the trouble to help plan breakfast for the family than any grand gesture.

    Yes, I too found Deborah superficial. She’s in it a lot for the ‘show’…. however when I see that she’s really broken-hearted, I ask myself if she’s broken about losing her ‘dream/image’ of being a success in dating or if she really had feelings for the Louse Jun Wan.

    If they were actual people I would be very worried that her friend does not get that what she considers as her husband does not liking her anymore is simply that beautiful transition. Using Eros as a foundational rock does not bid well for stability in any relationship.

    Yes I agree with this. I’m thinking that friend Yoo Jung is a bit more mature than that. Her husband, Jin Ho, strikes me as being too much of a kid, though.

    You said about Louse Ju Wan

    When he breaks her heart again he struggles not to be defeated by his false compassion and we see him very troubled. He tries to be cruel in order to be kind.

    Hmm… I didn’t notice him being conflicted. That’s why you consider him interesting? Do you feel he’s trying to break up with Bora for her sake after stringing her along for months/years in which she thinks he’s going to marry her? I’m not convinced.

    He may feel ‘bad’ for her and not want to show it, but he’s a Louse for cheating and obviously doing so repeatedly, while still excusing it as a one-time mistake (lies!) and then blaming Bora for his despicable behaviour (transference and victim blaming). His apologies smack of insincerity. He refuses to admit that he’s done anything wrong… if anything it’s a mistake and her fault!!

    The really sad thing is that she’s prepared to compromise and take him back when he’s such a low-life. What happened to her self-esteem, her great advice, etc when she’s drunk and in pain? She becomes aware that she cannot walk the talk and has no actual right to give advice.

    However I like that she can now share her experiences of a broken heart … and temper her thoughtless words with more consideration for pain and healing. However again, advice is something that may not be wise to give. She has only her limited experience to speak from. Let’s see what she writes in her latest book after the breakup.

  20. Dear @GB, is not that we are not romantic, but for us it is working for our families (wife in this case) that kind of define us. It is a pleasure for us to know that our homes and families are well, that have good food, opportunities, our homes are safe. Sometimes everyday life kind of eat us alive. Sometimes we need a hobby just to remember that life is more than an endless repetition of chores.

    Yes, her friend’s husband is kind of childish, but if you consider that one of the epitomes of masculinity is to be able to create a space so safe and nurturing that playfulness can happen in it, then maybe your perspective can shift a bit. He considers his wife one of his closest friends an he is playful around her, but yes he is kind of asking for a playful beating 😉 .

    Lousy ex seemed troubled when he has to tell her he hates her (it is something in the actor’s eyes, almost as if bracing himself). He did not have the courage to tell her that he was not interested in her anymore and as time passed it just became harder and harder to do what was correct. He did it on her but also on himself. Of course she is having the worst time, but inflicting pain onto someone he used to love is also lousy.

    And no, I don’t like him, but it has some humanity in him so far, he is not immune to the consequences of his cowardice and he is also scared of moving forward with Bo-Ra. I am NOT condoning his actions. His character has a lot of flaws.

    For me it is important for Bo-Ra to understand that all this time Deborah her character has been dealing with very real people with very real problems. And that she has failed in rising up to the trust they have put in her advice.

  21. GrowingBeautifully (GB)

    Hi @FGB
    I am on board with what you say about husbands… being an old married woman, that’s what I see. Staid and stable with occasional playfulness. I like the working for families part of the man’s role… ie he does not actually have to hold down a job, but he still does his share of the family work.

    Yes, it will be a boring husband who does not have some hobbies of his own. If there was nothing or no one else, it would be suffocating for the wife!

    EPISODES 1-6

    Let me slow down the scene and watch Chan Sung’s eyes LOL… I expect that he wanted to use strong language to keep her from being clingy, although what he said was not in sync with what he thought. However, he is inconsistent. At first he sounds like he does not want to be caught and wants to talk about the relationship (as if he did not want to break up) but the next time, he has changed his mind. He merely apologises and does not want to even try to make amends. The third time she is in tears, and he is harsh. Do his eyes show him regretful?

    Yes, as Deborah, she has been rather irresponsible and possibly failed her listeners/readers/audience. I feel that if instead of giving flat out black or white verdicts on relationships, she had been humble enough to say that ‘perhaps xxxx could be considered’ it would have been more responsible of her. However she sold her image on being daring to cross the line in being extremely judgmental.

    BTW… Watching the animation for the opening credits made me laugh… the Garbage Truck actually makes an appearance there as well!!! Now I want to see it in more scenes LOL. Why waste such a rich ‘trope’!

  22. Hello everyone! This drama is light as a feather to watch. I agree with @packmule3 that the FL is an overripe aegyo but she fits the role of the dating coach/influencer type well.

    Some of the scenes are relatable – the heartache and the crazy things you do after a break-up. The friend of the FL’s marriage issues are realistic, too.

    Will watch episode 7 tonight, FL needs to go back to being “Deborah” and if I can’t stand it, I’m ready to drop this show. But as for Episodes 1-6, it was an enjoyable ride.

  23. Hi all,

    Enjoying this while I wait for episodes of some of my regular shows.

    Yoo-Inna is great in this. A strong performance.

    I LOVED the show-down between FL and boyfriend (Ep 3 I think) when the early morning garbage collection was taking place! Wondrous. It could almost have morphed into a musical or an opera! The GOT& actor – Chansung- is so versatile and very strong in his role too.

    I didn’t like the ML actor much initially – call me Shallow Hal but I really didn’t like the way they styled him and that ‘hang over your face’ droopy hair style. Then he brushed his hair off his face for the Golden Miss event… and looked handsome. So that’s ok now!

    I like the way his character is developing or showing up for Deborah at least!

    This is a good watch.

  24. He looks nice with slightly side-swept fringe too as in this VIKI biog: https://www.viki.com/celebrities/14908pr-yoon-hyun-min?locale=en

  25. Hi, again,

    I deliberately didn’t read too far into your commentary to avoid spoilers and I have now seen comments from @Good Twin and @GB I think re the (award winning surely!)garbage truck scene and Chansung!

    As someone else (@Good Twin?) said – this is so cleverly written with a detailed awareness of dictums of pop-psychology.

    Deborah’s meltdown – personal and public – narratives contain a strong critique of self-help relationship culture/publishing/social media goals for life…

    She discovers – brutally- that no she doesn’t have the poise just to ‘Next’ her boyfriend (a critique surely of the popular dating book The Rules) – instead she melts down.

    Is it in her drunken denunciation of dating pop culture at the Golden Miss event that she declares, for another instance, that the wonderful man who loves her more than she loves him does not exist etc etc?

  26. GrowingBeautifully (GB)

    Hi @Kate and @iswap, I’m glad to see more BODers coming on board this show!

    EPISODE 7

    It was hilarious! I chuckled more than I should. The beginning was slow but it became better once Bora got drunk (again).

    LOLOL… I thought it couldn’t get more embarrassing than falling over and showing one’s underwear to the audience, but it can!!!

    I really like that because Su Hyeok has seen her in all her downs and worst moments, they can actually speak to each other a bit more honestly… at least it did sort of start being honest until the next BIG embarrassing thing!!

    What a role for Yoo In Na! I wonder if she was aghast when she read the script or tickled pink and just had to take on this character?

    I’m almost afraid to say, I hope that’s about the last most embarrassing thing, but then, I also hope the writers have come up with more scenarios that make us both laugh and cringe.

    Bora should really realise by now that drinking and being drunk is not her friend. Not only does she have alcoholic gastritis but practically at every occurrence of her being drunk, she makes a fool of herself. Prudence and wisdom are not, it seems, within easy reach.

    I really enjoyed all the expressions that Yoon Hyun Min was able to pull together when dealing with the incorrigible Bora.

  27. @GB,

    I created a thread for Eps 7 and 8. I’ll move this post over there.

    pm3

  28. Old American Lady (OAL)

    I like Yoon Hyun Min and like his hair. I think they style him that way for his work life. I am interested to see what happens in this drama because Bo-ra looks to be either a friend or acquaintance of his ex. I also think they are using Bo-ra’s voice over for a purpose as they are referencing LaLaLand a lot. Are they setting us up for a bittersweet ending? I am thinking that we are seeing these as in 25/21 or The Interest of Love
    That’s why I’m sticking with this although I am hoping that our two dumped souls find one another

  29. I finally watched ep 1 to 6. But it’s a bit blurry in my memory. Watching that when I was tired. The main actress is so good. It’s such a pleasure to see all the attitudes she’s able to do, how she gives life to her character, any small details. I’m wondered by her acting performance every second. It makes me want to rewatch that. The male lead is flat in comparison. Not sure it’s because the actor, as the character is also calm with cold blood and not making many expressions.

  30. GrowingBeautifully (GB)

    @WE, I only made brief notes for Ep 1 and 2 and no other episodes until Ep 9.

    I found Bo Ra too shallow. She placed too much emphasis on the ‘show’ of love and romance and not on the substance. She keeps hinting that the man should give the girl something small and sparkly. She said that it does not matter what other things he says but a couple cannot get married until he gives something small and sparkly.

    The other thing she says and holds on to til the end is that just going out does not mean they are in a relationship unless it’s been verbally defined. (I have come to disagree.) Why should she make a rule like that and insist that everyone should follow it.

    By all means, both parties should communicate clearly what they are about in a relationship but it does not have to be only verbally defined, since there are many means of communication.

    And of course BR would find herself with exactly the kind of person who cannot verbally say much about being in in a relationship. Su Hyeok was with Yu Ri for 4 years and took it for granted that they were dating and serious, without ever saying ‘the words’. I’d imagine that he must have done enough to keep the relationship going, to show that he cared about Yu Ri. But all we know is that he didn’t say ‘the words’ which Yu Ri wanted to hear to get confirmation and in order to be confident in the relationship.

    We are given the female perspective and made to ‘go along’ with how they think and feel. However, after several episodes, I stepped away from this.

    WRT the actors. Both the leads were good. The ML does portray more emotions later. He is cool/cold in the beginning.

  31. Sure, Borah is shallow, we get that from scene #3 of the drama (interview while she ask her good face photo), revealing everything about her, if we look well. And the actress do that soooo well!! What I was dreaming to watch with that actress, because she caused me a shock in Queen In Hyun’s man, so cute and good in that too.

  32. GrowingBeautifully (GB)

    @WE, yes I liked Queen In Hyun’s man. It was terrible the number of times the man was pierced by arrows but the ‘queen’ was always pretty cute. 😋

  33. @GB, I probably need to rewatch that drama, now Borah will make me want more from the actress. He’s pierced with arrows? Mmh I don’t remember well. There is something like he needs to die to travel in time. I rewatched 3 first episodes some years ago but didn’t do a full rewatch. I remember the ML is stuck in a shower at one point.

  34. GrowingBeautifully (GB)

    @WE LOL the scenes that you DO remember!!

    I meant that he had to be shot with an arrow and almost die each time he wanted to time travel to the future, not that he had multiple arrows in him at one time LOL.

    So do you think we have a next candidate (Queen In Hyun’s Man) for ReWatch after Liar Game 2?

  35. @GB, Oh, it was already on your rewatch list?
    I don’t have many ideas for rewatchs. I missed almost all dramas this year. Of course, there are some dramas I’m always happy to rewatch, but you didn’t watched them, so.
    QIHM have some quality for rewatch: of course SJJ way of writing, good directing (director had 3 partnership with SJJ), some complexity, awesome actress (well, for me she was a big hit in this)… but maybe most important, it’s also a sweet drama with lot of romance anyone can like. People could have doubts about rewatch (and watch first) Liar Game, but QIHM is much more easy to enter in.

  36. GrowingBeautifully (GB)

    @WE, Yes… I did have QIM on the list of shows to rewatch. The original rewatch list was quite long, but believe it or not, I saves it.

    This was what we put down when there were more people interested in rewatching.

    In alphabetical order:
    1) ‘Black’ – (rec. by @Cleo)
    2) ‘Caution: Hazardous Housewife’ on Viki. Jdorama. 10 episodes – (rec. in 2021 by @Welmaris)
    3) ‘Chocolate’ (rec. by @Cleo)
    4) ‘Days of Being Wild’ Hong Kong movie – (rec. in 2021 by @Janey)
    5) ‘Doom at Your Service’- (rec. by @salteddust)
    6) ‘Liar Game’ Japanese Original – (rec. by @WE)
    7) ‘My Ahjusshi (My Mister)’ – (rec in 2021, by @Welmaris, I believe)
    8) ‘Nine: 9 Times Travel’ – (rec. by @GB)
    9) ‘Omameda Towako to Sannin no Motootto’ Jdorama – (rec. in 2021 by @FGB)
    10) ‘Queen In Hyun’s man’ – (rec. by @GB)
    11) ‘Sandglass’ (24 episodes, 45 minutes each).- (rec. by @WE)
    12) ‘When the Weather is Fine’ – (rec. by @salteddust)

    We have done number 6) and are continuing with Season 2.
    Personally I’m only interested in 8) and 10) that I recommended, although since you highly recommend it, I may not mind trying number 11).

    So we can consider one/some of these after Liar Game 2.

Comments are closed.